[IDEA] Application idea for billing control. - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps

Hello there.
I have got into idea of making application which would help you controlling your billing.
So.
For example:
You're in orange, you have a tariff of let's say 50 euros.
You put that info into program.
Then you put there all numbers that belongs to orange(I mean, every number that begins on 504 or 506 belongs to orange)
You have to put into program aswell the price for every call to someone from Orange and to people outside orange.
And this program should register all those calls, gather the prices, so that you all all the time updated how much more money can you spend to not run out of tariffe.
Hope I made it clear, if not I can try to explain it better.
With regards

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Call costs display?

I am currently visiting Poland, and using a local simcard. During calls my old T68 displays the current balance on my account in real time. My XDA-II just displays the duration, giving me no way of checking call costs. Is there any way to enable this feature, or any third party programs which can do it?
Phone Dashboard Minute Trackerv 1.0 Arm Ppc Phone Edition
There is a good software:
Phone Dashboard Minute Trackerv 1.0 Arm Ppc Phone Edition
that should fulfill all your needs. I can send U this.
Doesn't work with pre-pay cards. I contacted Hudson Mobile for this.
It's only intended for subscribers.
Grtz,
Jos
it would be easy to program though the program would just call the api call which give the cell call time and multiply it with the price typed in by the user and subtracted from the full cost on the sim card
of cause that could be the problem that windows dont support reading that factor from the sim card
I realise call costs can easilly be calculated from the call duration, but I was referring to a feature which most phones have which shows call costs in real time based on information sent by the network.
With my SIMPLUS account here, on my T610, during any phone calls the display shows information on the balance remaining on my account. Unfortunatly with sim plus, this is the only way of checking the remaining balance. On my XDA II I only know when I've run out of cash when calls get blocked.
heyah maybe?
Swith to Heyah - new prepaid offer. It's best offer on the market today and U hear voice info before each call (ca. 14s - duration) when U have AFAIR 5 zl left on your account. It's very cheap and simple offer but there's no MMS and GPRS at all..

Checking free minutes on O2

Hi guys,
Bit of a newbie question here, but how do i check how many free minutes i have left on my O2 (UK) tariff?
On my orange, i just dial 150 then 1, and a computerised woman tells me how many inclusive minutes are left (and it doesn't cost anything)
Can i do the same on o2? Whats the number and does it cost?
cheers
Anyone know the way to do this?
Only other way i can think is to reset the call counter each month
Would be nice if it was as easy as orange to check your minutes!
XDA-II said:
Anyone know the way to do this?
Only other way i can think is to reset the call counter each month
Would be nice if it was as easy as orange to check your minutes!
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AFAIK, Orange are the ONLY UK net to offer this mate.
No to O2, Voda, T-Mobile, or Virgin, AFAIK.
On T-Mobile it is automated but on O2 you dial 150 and speak to operator and ask for you remaining minutes.
Fresly
does anyone know if it is possible to see how much data you have used on GPRS, or is this a similar thing, I.E. call cutomer services?
All of these questions can be answered by logging on to the O2 web site as well. I know the O2 web site is SLOW, but it gives the answers re. remaining free minutes etc. The only thing I couldn't find anywhere was GPRS usage.
You can see how many minutes you have used, including GPRS charges so far (though some of these take a few days to register) on the o2 accountmanagement website.
You need to sign up for it, to manage your account online, it also allows you to auto change tariffs etc, and gives you itemised billing etc.
accountmanagement.o2.co.uk
No way to do this from your phone afaik

Data 5 = no calls for me :o(

Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
I am sorry for any inconvenience that may have been caused.
As you are on the O2 Data only tariff, you will not be able to make and receive voice calls.
You need to contact the shop, where you were informed that you would be able to make and receive calls on this tariff. They will help you further.
If you need further information about this matter, please reply to this email.
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Just got the above response from 02 after my second email.
I went into the shop in the first place and the guy just told me to get in touch with customer services. I cant complain too loudly because I want to keep the exec and so cant threaten to cancel as I dont want to, but I would like voice calls.
Any ideas ?
Does anyone have a solution to get O2 to let me have voice calls on this tarrif ?
someone said they had got the voice on a payg type rate on top if this tariff. i wonder if they're being sneaky since you (we) got our execs cheap?
jus leave the sim in a drawer, its really no use, u only got it for the phone anyway
i got 5 of them, im looking to pay them off when my trade-in cheques come through, then just pay off remaining line rental and be done with it.
When I got the deal they asked me whether I wanted voice enabled on the sim. I said 'as long as it doesn't cost anything'. Not tried it (using my other o2 contract SIM) but assume it does work.
Yeah may just bin the sim. Is there no chance I could change it to a £9 ish voice plan in 6 months time ?
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
l6cum said:
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
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Thats the thing though, customer services are saying I cant have voice calls on the data5 plan as per their reply quoted in my original post. Why let some have it on and tell others no ?
all customer service depts. employ an EU regulated quota of imbecilic monkeys. just keep trying...one will be able to read eventually.
As mentioned elsewhere I had to move to the Data36 tariff before I could have voice calls activated. If you go from a voice tariff to Data5 you might find you do have both!
If they dont want to switch them on thats up to them. I aint all that bothered. I just emailed them and said thats fine I will use my voda sim I only wanted the phone anyhow.
Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
Well voice calls can be made as well as received on data tariffs. However, there is a slight glitch. There are two basic tariffs - One that allows calls and the other that doesn't.
You cannot make calls unless you shift to the one that allows voice calls. You will have better luck getting this done if you talk to the Business customer services.
So neither is false. You can make calls as the website says. However, you need to purchase the right tariff. The one you can make calls with is called the o2 data centric.
Next time you call CS ask to speak to the Business CS (they will either direct your call or give you a number to call). Ask them to change your tariff to o2 Data Centric. That should solve your problems.
The CS at o2 is crap and just too arrogant. They have no knowledge about things and no manners at all. So much for - "Welcome to the o2 UK based Customer Service centre". Even 3 CS is a lot better.
Yes, you can also change to a complete voice tariff after 6 months if you so desire but it has to be from one of the then prevelant voice tariffs. I think there is none for £9 even today. Minimum i guess is £19.
Good luck with getting your tariffs changed. Hopefully, this information comes useful. Please leave feedback for the benefits of others.
themez2004 said:
Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
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Have now sent a copy of this to the person who was dealing with me via email. Cant see how they can refuse to do it now. Will let you know how I get on.
hello
i can make voice calls and i am on data 5 centric, good thing is that for me it costs the same £9.40 per month inc VAT, the slaes guy that i bought the phone from must have activated for me whilst i was quizzing him about it!
so if u switch to data 5 centric it shouldn't cost you extrra at all, because all that will happen is your call charegs are at 25p per min all time ie the PAYG rate.
thanks
has anybody been able to change from data 5 to data 5 centric via CS then? I might give this a go if I have the time over the next few days....
No, it is not possible to transfer from data 5 to data 5 centric. I tried this and didn't get anywhere. Eventually i spoke to some advisor who told me i had to go to the shop i bought it from,(within 14 days) and cancel the contract and sign up again (this time with centric). A lot of hassle but definitely worth it.
Good luck
Euan
Did you talk to the Business Customer services?
The data tariffs are business tariffs and CS don't have a clue about them. (Ofcourse even otherwise they are clueless.) They can do nothing. You need to talk to business CS. They should be able to help you out.
I work in o2 business customer service and have just read this thread wondering what all the bull**** replies you've had from o2.
To clarify, you CAN move from 'Data 5 Data Only' to 'Data 5 Data Centric'
I would do this for you but it is not allowed for me to just change accounts without completing a security check.
like mentioned earlier, just explain to business customer service that the people in personal c/s dont know what they're talking about and you need moving to data centric.
jp
Thnx JP, tht'll solve problems for a lot many users.

The bastards nicked my SPV M500..... Can I track it?

My phone was stolen in london yesterday. It had a PAYG sim in it, and I have been calling it and sometimes it rings. I've left messages and texts but nothing.
I have seen services like mapamobile and followus which offer triangulation tracking but the problem with this is that I don't want the theiving twat to know that I'm tracking it, and all these services send tracking notification texts ti the handset being tracked.
Does anyone know of any services or software that can track my phone?
I've been trying to postpone it ( to give the teef a chance to redeem themselves) but worst comes to worst I'll call orange and get the phone blocked.
try https://www.immobilise.com/
Get this: ORANGE can see (on screen - while I'm on the phone to them) who put their SIM in my phone by looking at the IMEI info!
They WILL NOT TELL me as this would be a breach of the information of the theiving c*nt that took my phone. I have already registered the phone stolen with the police and their response was "well if we followed ever stolen mobile phone we wouldn't be doing anything else blahblahblah"
The police said if I knew who took the phone they would go and arrest them, search their house (and find all my other items they nicked at the same time).
Does anyone know of software or a service that can track my phone from the IMEI?
Googling throws up a number of sponsored links, eg
www.mobilelocate.co.uk
Not sure if it's IMEI based. was it insured?
V
Unfortunately, all of these pay services send a text message to the phone that you want to locate and will only then locate that phone, once a permission to locate reply text has been be sent from that phone back the locating service.
For my circumstances, this won't help as there is no way that the theiving [email protected] is going to allow themselves to be tracked.
Any other ideas greatly apprecited (especially from orange employees hint hint) :lol:
Have you tried calling your opperator to find which cell tower its using? By this way you may get to know his location. And moreover i heard somewhere that if three towers' triangle pointings with distance may be help you to locate your phone in exact position, but i don't think theyl use this technology for finding a phone.Its only used to track terrorists
Anyway, good luck on your next device. Use precautions like my software UTA
Regards
Carty..
Carty you are exactly right, the signal can be triangulated to pinpoint it's location within a few metres however this is only really done for serious crimes, such as kidnapping, murder, terrorism etc.
But further than that, the network (orange in this case) when someone puts a SIM into a handset, that info (SIM data and IMEI) is recorded by network and for this reason I did not have the phone immediately blocked. When I spoke to Orange they could actually see who is using my phone now!, but they will not give me the info and just for theft the police don't get involved to the point where they get a court order to request that person's details.
Bloody annoying :x
Hey I think you may want to try http://www.eastmobiles.com
in australia, a stolen phone, once reported stolen with imie number. the phone is locked/blocked/bricked by all the telco's.

two sims, one number, two phones

Is it possible to clone a sim card and then have say an mda running with one installed and a going out phone with the other.
i'm guessing its possible but am after a step by step if anyones feeling helpful.
I wouldn't want to have both phones turned on at once if that makes it an easier process. Just getting hacked off at swapping sim all the time.
You cant clone a Sim like Hollywood Movies ... not normal Guys like you and me!
Talk with your Provider!
Same have a Service with Master Slave Cards. In Austria you can have 1 numbers and a lot of device they ring at the same time or in priority.
Cheers netrunner. Yep i probably have watched to many films. I tried to call my provider (tmob uk) but i'd have more luck getting into Angelina Jolie's knickers than speaking to someone there with an ounce of savvy.
ClashOfThe said:
Cheers netrunner. Yep i probably have watched to many films. I tried to call my provider (tmob uk) but i'd have more luck getting into Angelina Jolie's knickers than speaking to someone there with an ounce of savvy.
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Is it possible to clone the sim...yes...but illegal. You buy one of those 6 in 1 or 12 in 1 sim's plus reader for about $10 on ebay. (oh...only Tmobile still uses the Version 1 sim's that these can clone..everyone else has upgraded to version 2 which is uncrackable currently)
Is it possible to clone the phone..yes..but illegal....the hacking and development board has a thread on a free IMEI changer...you would have to run that and make sure both phones had the same IMEI.
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Even if you did ALL those things there is no way you could have both on at the same time....every 20 minutes the phone reconnects with the tower...the tower is only going to allow 1 connection at a time so your connection is constantly going to switch from one to the other...and they will notice this and bad things will happen to your account and men in suits may show up at your door. The best you could manage is to turn one or the other on at a time which basically defeats the purpose.
Now go to your provider and pay them the extra for a 2nd line and use conditional call forwarding (forward to phone 2 when phone 1 doesn't answer..used to forward to voicemail normally) to accomplish the same thing.
Good thinking
famewolf said:
Is it possible to clone the sim...yes...but illegal. You buy one of those 6 in 1 or 12 in 1 sim's plus reader for about $10 on ebay. (oh...only Tmobile still uses the Version 1 sim's that these can clone..everyone else has upgraded to version 2 which is uncrackable currently)
Is it possible to clone the phone..yes..but illegal....the hacking and development board has a thread on a free IMEI changer...you would have to run that and make sure both phones had the same IMEI.
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Even if you did ALL those things there is no way you could have both on at the same time....every 20 minutes the phone reconnects with the tower...the tower is only going to allow 1 connection at a time so your connection is constantly going to switch from one to the other...and they will notice this and bad things will happen to your account and men in suits may show up at your door. The best you could manage is to turn one or the other on at a time which basically defeats the purpose.
Now go to your provider and pay them the extra for a 2nd line and use conditional call forwarding (forward to phone 2 when phone 1 doesn't answer..used to forward to voicemail normally) to accomplish the same thing.
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Right with that clever piece of logic i'll try it with a pay as you go sim and forward from the contract one and that should do what i want. (just hope the forwarding charge comes off my free mins)
Called Tmobile uk who have told me that the call forwarding to the pay as you go sim wont cost any more and will come out of my contracted minutes.

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