Hi guys,
Bit of a newbie question here, but how do i check how many free minutes i have left on my O2 (UK) tariff?
On my orange, i just dial 150 then 1, and a computerised woman tells me how many inclusive minutes are left (and it doesn't cost anything)
Can i do the same on o2? Whats the number and does it cost?
cheers
Anyone know the way to do this?
Only other way i can think is to reset the call counter each month
Would be nice if it was as easy as orange to check your minutes!
XDA-II said:
Anyone know the way to do this?
Only other way i can think is to reset the call counter each month
Would be nice if it was as easy as orange to check your minutes!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AFAIK, Orange are the ONLY UK net to offer this mate.
No to O2, Voda, T-Mobile, or Virgin, AFAIK.
On T-Mobile it is automated but on O2 you dial 150 and speak to operator and ask for you remaining minutes.
Fresly
does anyone know if it is possible to see how much data you have used on GPRS, or is this a similar thing, I.E. call cutomer services?
All of these questions can be answered by logging on to the O2 web site as well. I know the O2 web site is SLOW, but it gives the answers re. remaining free minutes etc. The only thing I couldn't find anywhere was GPRS usage.
You can see how many minutes you have used, including GPRS charges so far (though some of these take a few days to register) on the o2 accountmanagement website.
You need to sign up for it, to manage your account online, it also allows you to auto change tariffs etc, and gives you itemised billing etc.
accountmanagement.o2.co.uk
No way to do this from your phone afaik
Related
Hi everyone
This is the first time I have posted something on this site so I hope this is usefull to someone.
I have been trying for weeks to get full internet and pop3 e.mail on PAYG O2 . I am now convinced that this is not going to happen after speaking to the O2 tech helpline several times and costing a small fortune. So I have had to take the unwanted step of moving to Orange PAYG. Well what can I say not only is the support from orange the best I have experenced but it has an 0800 number. Anyway having got setup on Orange PAYG and using the settings at the below link I was up and running first time, the instructions are quite long but well worth it, these settings may well have come from this site .
Hope this helps someone
http://www.expansys.com.hk/forumthread.asp?code=106055&thread=144
Hi all,
I bought a MDA PRO on the t-mobile tariff webnwalk that give 40MB of web browsing per month. The adverts and customer services specifically say web browsing or internet browsing.
I saw in a post the other day, someone saying that that is only for GPRS and NOT UMTS (3G).. Now is this true? The prebuilt mda pro doesn't give you the option to choose one over the other and there are no tariff plan details that say how much 3G data would cost..
P
Hi,
i am a german t-mobile customer and here it doesn´t matter if you are connected using gprs or 3g.
Would make absolutly no sense, because the device automatically switches to the fastet network available and it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
The only important factor for the bill is the volume.
- Superbowl
superbowl said:
it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.
Yes, I am on web n walk in the UK and it's both.
40mb / month gives you just over a meg a day.
Now, if you buy/obtain the pocket MSN software, then you get your hotmail back (woohoo) but MSN messenger sucks bandwidth like there's no tomorrow - nearly a meg in a few hours.
Agile messenger doesn't use anywhere near as much data, and just in case the bandwidth usage was related to 3G, I went into the phone settings and where you have an 'auto' set for networks, choose GSM and it sticks to only GPRS. I later tested MSN messenger on GPRS and it still sucks data like a mofo.
For general purpose use, GPRS is fine and obviates the issue where the software/OS pratts about switching between networks. Web browsing is fine with images switched off and all is good again.
I am currently using about 3-400k/day which means I will need to have a blow-out web session at the end of the month to use my entitlement (which is better than having to pay excess data charges cos I sucked too much data over the month).
End result is the same - I am connected to MSN through agile and keep in touch with friends during the day, and I get hotmail integration to the messaging apps.
All slightly OT to this thread, but I thought I would share my experience in case it helps.
Joe
joebongo said:
...I later tested MSN messenger on GPRS and it still sucks data like a mofo...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great line, made me laugh :lol: Looks like I should give Agile a go then. Didn't realise it was lighter than MSN.
And back on topic, I'm not on Web 'n' Walk yet (really should get round to switching...) but I spoke to a lovely lady at T-Mobile for ages trying to figure out which tarrif would suit me best, and at some point in the conversation she definitely told me that 3G data is charged at exactly the same rate as GPRS data, and the 40 meg allowance covers both.
Excellent!
We'll I've now done the registry fix to t-mobile Internet option to make sure it really is ALWAYS ON.
I'm in Spain next week and how I can use GPRS from there. You know which partner networks I should try it on and how much it'll cost me?
I've tried t-mobile and they give me different answers from 'you can't use gprs out in Spain' to 'it'll cost you at least £7 p MB'
??
Had my stag do in Barcelona earlier this year and I was connected to Movistar for the weekend. GPRS rates were (from memory) about £7.50 per Mb which is what T-Mobile's standard GPRS rates were at the time (not sure what they are now?) I was already over my allowance for the month, so I dont know if my allowance would have been used up instead of having to pay the higer price (doubt it though!)
cr2 said:
You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, it´s possible. But why the hell should i change ?
- Superbowl
No Ones talking about changing.
The point is I wanted to make sure that using UMTS and GPRS doesn't change the billing.
Also, whe you go to another country you have to Roam and I also wanted to know how much that would cost me using gprs? (oh In Spain..) 8)
psteel said:
Excellent!
We'll I've now done the registry fix to t-mobile Internet option to make sure it really is ALWAYS ON.
I'm in Spain next week and how I can use GPRS from there. You know which partner networks I should try it on and how much it'll cost me?
I've tried t-mobile and they give me different answers from 'you can't use gprs out in Spain' to 'it'll cost you at least £7 p MB'
??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used T-Mob roaming in Australia via other cell companies and it cost me 7.50/meg I think.
And, weirdest of all, even tho I had T-Mob GPRS setup for the UK, I didn't change settings, it just worked over there (or appeared to). That was on a SE P910i tho.
That's damn expensive. How can they justify it? It's not like voice calls where you're paying for the foreign country to the uk and then from the uk to where-ever..You're just using the local network to hop onto their gprs network and the web... :evil:
It's about thime this planet got to grips with modern technology..Seem that the public think further ahead than the companies...
£7.50 Per Meg seems like the general consensus then.
Coincidentally (or maybe not?) that's how much T-Mobile charge even in the UK for either PAYG customers, or contract customers with no bolt-ons. (unless they've updated the costs recently)
As for the settings working abroad, GPRS connects via an access point such as "general.t-mobile.com" which is the same the world over. Much like a web address. Each network operator just monitors the traffic to your device, and bills accordingly. Obviously if your abroad, the local network operator bills your home operator and they mark it up 10000000% and bill you in turn.
(At least that's how I understand it)
Call 150 and the guy will tell you that it's for GPRS only. I think he might not have the proper authority of saying it, but then again, as long as this guy is a quotable source i.e. 150-guy; so the fact stands until someone made a 150 call and tell us otherwise
is there only way to get the number of MB currently downloaded with a *#XX# shortcuts ?
same for the number of minutes.. it's a bit pain in the bottom to have to call 150 (especially when you get the help yourself options)
dianna_wills said:
Call 150 and the guy will tell you that it's for GPRS only. I think he might not have the proper authority of saying it, but then again, as long as this guy is a quotable source i.e. 150-guy; so the fact stands until someone made a 150 call and tell us otherwise
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said before, the person I spoke to said otherwise. Conflicting information from the 150 crew then...I'll have to check through my new bill carefully once I've switched to Web 'n' Walk 200, but 3G data has never been charged differently to GPRS on my current tarrif (Relax 200 + 55Mb Data add-on).
cr2 said:
superbowl said:
it is not possible to use gprs when i am in a area where 3g is available.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can change this behaviour by modifying the registry keys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also have web'n'walk ('flat rate' only for GPRS) so i dont want to use UMTS.
What do you have to change in the registry to use GPRS when UMTS is available??
There is no need to force the MDA Pro to use GPRS on T-Mobile. With the web 'n' walk tarrifs the 40mb is for use on BOTH UTMS (3G) or GPRS.
I can confirm this as I myself am on web 'n' walk 200.
I only ever use 3G on Web'n'Walk 200 (cause I live and work in London), and I haven't been charged for my first 40 Megs yet so no-one on this tarrif should worry!
If you are concerned, sign up on the T-Mobile website for "My T-Mobile". I've finally gotten around to doing this myself, and now I can track my spending easily (even from my JasJar, if I so desire) and change my account options etc, without having to go through the Service Centre every time.
And for those people who have to pay for calls to 150 because they're on a webshop account, you needn't ring 150 ever again (probably!)
Maybe i have a different web'n'walk. I'm from holland and here we have 'pocket internet total' 9,50/month and no time or mb limit. One problem, the t-mobile site says its only for GPRS!
But there is a chance that UMTS is also inclusif, and t-mobile just forgot to mansion that, because i have no charges for umts sofar(MyTmobile)...
joebongo said:
Now, if you buy/obtain the pocket MSN software, then you get your hotmail back (woohoo) but MSN messenger sucks bandwidth like there's no tomorrow - nearly a meg in a few hours.
Agile messenger doesn't use anywhere near as much data
Joe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This has not been my experience when I used Messenger on my old imate JAM - must test this, cheers. Is Agile Messenger better in other ways too?
Hi
Thought i would share my findings about O2 and payandgo sim cards. Several people have provided me with gprs settings all of which seem to work but don't fully then meschle (cheers) explained things.
O2 payandgo gprs access is restricted and will allow things like basic browsing but not msn email checking. i have phoned them to confirm this.
So if you are on O2 payandgo trying to get the best out of your wizard or indeed any xda then... sod then off and go for Orange!
orange have a simular deal but better. 10quid min topup, 300texts something else and 1meg gprs every month! if you add a gprs option it costs £4 from your monthly £10. so every month you would get 300textsa £6 to spend on calls and a stonking 5meg gprs.
the sims only cost £1 to order from the orange website, i have tested it all working getting your O2 number changed to orange is dead easy and only takes a week.
the hours i have spent messing with O2 gprs!!!!!! thought i would try to save other people from doing the same.
Get an Orange PayAndGo Sim card for free...
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/simevent/film
...and you have to enter a code at the bottom which is "film" without the quotes
Note: this is just to get the simcard for free! Everything else RJWebb has mentioned above regarding monthly topup still applies!
i did the same, moved from o2 to orange.
Im on the free text top up rate (which you should ask for as they dont automatically put you on it).
I always top up around £30 in the month, convert £8 to 8MB GPRS web access (2 x £4 chunks), i get 1000 free texts(for topping up £30) and 1MB free GPRS, making 9MB total
The other £22 is calls and extra texts (which I buy at £5 for 150 so 3p each)
Another thing to do if you are new is call up to get picture messaging to be activated and they give you 30 free pic messages for one month only.
Highly recommended
The only 'problem' i have is if i send or receive a picture message so connect to the orange mms server, I cannot access gprs web then until I do a soft reset. The same happens in reverse too, if I have been on the web/msn/whatever I cannot then send or receive a pic message until I do a soft reset. I didnt get this problem on o2 and havent been able to uncover the reason for this.
does anyone have a cab file for the orange gprs and mms settings? i'm gonna move to orange from o2 cheers
Rob
http://www.modaco.com/Orange_GPRS_settings_for_XDA_Mini_S-t236403.html
I couldnt get any one particular cab set of settings to work, i think i installed one and then just tweaked it until it 'happened'
Thanks for the cab file with a few changes it works
real internet access at last cheers guys!
R
o2 benefits
but swapping to orange u lose your 200 anytime any network min plus 1 meg download if 300 text
all costing me just 10.00, so I can't decide why 30.00 on pay as you go what benefit . one question if u swop your no. from a sim do both sims then have the same no.ie any one can phone me and catch me on either sim on one no.
dont know if this is right place to ask but, on http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=plans_webnwalk says:
...Messaging over Internet Protocol is prohibited by T-Mobile
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do they mean msn,icq etc? if yes i'll cancel my order and tell them stick it to somewhere
Yes, I beleive that is exactly right, MSN, ICQ etc etc are not allowed at the moment. Under my terms and conditions it says this is to provide a decent experience for other users.
I beleive its purpose is to make people use the sms and voice features of t-mobile, rather than the mainly free use of internet services instead. It is after all there intention to make money on you as a customer.
I *think* they also frown on using your device as a modem for your laptop or pc. Tho i may be wrong on that as they sell the laptop web'n'walk card, but thats on there PRO service.
how much data can a chat consume anyway, 500kb an hr? at most! bad thing is they might just close msn or icq ports on their network and thats it
i dont use to much of it but i wouldn;t like to be prevented from being able to use it
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :evil: :x :roll: :shock:
Do they actually enforce it now?
From that, it looks like that is only on Web n' Walk Pro not the standard
from:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...RL=valuemobiles.at/OSD&P36=43XTB9&CID=0&CTY=8
Web ‘n’ Walk Professional is subject to a minimum term contract and credit check. Compatible handset or device required. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy applies. T-Mobile defines fair use as total UK data use (both sent and received) of up to 2GB per month. T-Mobile may contact customers who exceed this volume of data in two (or more) consecutive months in any six month period to ask them to reduce their usage. If usage is not reduced, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission. Use of Voice over Internet Protocol and Messaging over Internet Protocol is prohibited by T-Mobile. If use of either or both of these services is detected T-Mobile may terminate all contracts with the customer and disconnect any SIM cards and/or web ‘n’ walk cards from the T-Mobile network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got My TM vario II this morning.
Fired up w&W then MSM and it works. I await the email telling me to stop.
I the meantime I'm usin it
seems strange they would ship the device with msn instaled if they didn't want you to use it...
maybe they are just reffering to skype and the such but got there terminogloy wrong...
best thing to do i would say is call them up and ask...
worst they can say is no your not allowed..
mattie01 said:
seems strange they would ship the device with msn instaled if they didn't want you to use it...
maybe they are just reffering to skype and the such but got there terminogloy wrong...
best thing to do i would say is call them up and ask...
worst they can say is no your not allowed..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think there may be a couple of reasons
1) By letting people use msn or skype you avoid using the networks features. The features t-mobile make money on and are in business for.
2) To see how the network performs with so many people on web'n'walk and payg users also having free access.
Maybe if they think there network is coping well with so many users they may remove this from there terms and conditions.
While breaking the t&c they can cancel your account, your more likely to get a letter asking you to stop it, and only if your causing a problem to other users or congestion to a cell tower.
I'm fairly certain that web'n'walk pro is the service used by laptop data cards, they have probably enabled restrictions here to stop heavy usage by laptops, I think the normal mobile services will be safe!
MSN on WnW
In my many calls to T-mobile customer services I have never hidden the fact that I wanted to connect to messenger, and I have never been informed that I cant.
My usage never goes over 2gb, so there is no need for them to look into my account in any depth, nor are there any means of definitively knowing if I am using Messenger anyway!
If you wish you can add the web n walk PRO bolt-on to your account for 9 pounds as opposed to 7.50 for the standard bolt-on. Though all it does is give you peace of mind if you wish to use you phone as a modem, and free access to T-mobile Hotspots.
There is no advantage to upgrading to pro in terms of network speed/usage allowance.
I have been using messenger since april with my web n walk bolt on and have had no issues whatsoever, so read into that what you will.
Re: MSN on WnW
mrleoni said:
I have been using messenger since april with my web n walk bolt on and have had no issues whatsoever, so read into that what you will.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and just to back up what he said, ive been doing the same since april too!
they dont want you to use any IM not because of traffic, but because of lost revenue.
1 sms is around 10p.
1 sms is 160 bytes max.
1 megabyte is 1'048'576 bytes.
i.e. 1 megabyte carries more than 6500 sms
so: for transporting 1 megabyte of data, an operator has revenues of more than £650
imagine how terrified they are of you overloading their network (i.e. their megabyte trnasport facility if you will) and only give them a miserly £8 every month for it.
basically it is a disaster for them if you do more IM and less sms. Hence the T&C's that say they can boot you from their net if you do that (i dont think they will, but their contract gives them option should they choose).
they are living in never never land if they think they can sustain this for any period of time.
well not sure about msgr but real media streaming banned by t-mobile
OK just to clear this matter up.
The MDA VarioII Does NOT support MSN messenger or windows Live Messenger on T-mobile web n walk.
This is a big shortfall in my opinion. It doesn't even allow messenger to run even when the radio is turned off and you have USB or wifi connection!
hence the blocking might not be on the 'T-mobile network' but within the registry of the device!
Anyone got any workarounds/ideas on overcoming this?
BTW: Skype™ for Pocket PC works fine!
skipjack said:
OK just to clear this matter up.
The MDA VarioII Does NOT support MSN messenger or windows Live Messenger on T-mobile web n walk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but others above have posted it does work on there vario 2s?
maybe somethings not installed / set up correctly on your device?
only have a vario 1 myself but on t- mobile and have been using the msm features since 1st april when web and walk £7.50 option became available
I have got an MDA Vario II which I purchased direct from T-Mobile via their Website a couple of weeks back on one of their Web'n'Walk tarriffs. MS Messenger was pre-installed on it and I have had no problems logging on and chatting. Surely if they don't want you to use Messenger, they wouldn't include it in the software bundle.
I don't see any problem using it as long as I use it fairly and make sure I don't exceed their fair use limits.
Nicky said:
I have got an MDA Vario II which I purchased direct from T-Mobile via their Website a couple of weeks back on one of their Web'n'Walk tarriffs. MS Messenger was pre-installed on it and I have had no problems logging on and chatting. Surely if they don't want you to use Messenger, they wouldn't include it in the software bundle.
I don't see any problem using it as long as I use it fairly and make sure I don't exceed their fair use limits.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not only was it installed on my Vario II, the t-mobile customized manual actually tells you how to set it up. I did query this on a number of occasions and the responce I got was always the same, IMing is not allowed on either web'n'walk or web'n'walk pro.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario II, which came pre-installed with Mobile messenger. I installed live messenger mobile, and it worked fine, as it did on my MDA Pro until Microsoft threw a spanner in the works. Messenger is NOT blocked on the Vario II - that is total Bo***cks.
We are all suffering the same problem. I just hope hey bring out the new CAB soon because Agile is just soooooo rubbish in comparison.
I'm waiting with baited breath.
Which programs run?
Hi guys,
sorry for reactivating this old thread. However, I was just wondering if some of the T-Mob UK WnW users could tell me which communication programs they can use without trouble. I experience the following situation:
1.) Live Messenger runs without any problem
2.) Can't get ICQ to work
3.) Skype is possible, though text chat with Skype is not
4.) Couldn't get Fring to work
Can someone please confirm these? Additionally, I'd like to hear whether or not someone managed to use VoIP with the standard WnW bolt on.
N.B.: Don't want to stirr up the "legal" discussion, just want to talk about the technical aspects...
Cheers,
MilchCow
I've got an O2 XDA Stellar on PAYG and I've bought the £7.50 "Web Bolt On". Thanks to a CAB I downloaded somewhere I've now able to view the web pages, but nothing else works: IMAP, MSN, weather updates etc. Needless to say I didn't pay 7.50 just to squint at web pages on a tiny screen!
Does anyone know if it's possible to get these other services working and what I would have to do to configure it?
If not I suppose I'll have to abandon my call credit and ditch this mob for 3!
Cheers in advance for any help if you can give it.
you need the full o2 prepay settings installing in the device, comes as default with postpay as, through o2 the xda aint availabe on pay and go.
call cust sservices they will email the step by step to you
Thanks. I've already been on the phone to O2 and once they established that the Stellar isn't available on PAYG they couldn't help me. I downloaded a CAB which gives me prepay settings but it only works for websites.
I paid for the bolt on and they sent me some simple settings in my email to make sure i had the right settings and i could use everything fine
Slightly odd but i would assume its because i am pay monthly
kingboyk said:
Thanks. I've already been on the phone to O2 and once they established that the Stellar isn't available on PAYG they couldn't help me. I downloaded a CAB which gives me prepay settings but it only works for websites.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has been suggested to me that O2 PAYG do not offer the full internet access for the users, I can not confirm this as I am not an O2 customer. Though some people say that the PM settings work (I suppose its just a trial and error thing) .
Both settings can be found here, hope it helps...
Click Here
apprently PAYG users must use the proxy
193.113.200.195
port 808
o2 pay and go do not offer the full internet to their customers, you either have to upgrade to pay monthly or get a contract, or have as you say , a half baked version of the net where you can only surf some web pages and not be able to use msn or email etc.
I wouldnt bother with 3 either as they are pathetic, half the time you cant even get a phone signal ,let alone a 3g signal.
Thanks everyone. I've already bought the 3 SIM so I have nothing to lose by trying them. If they turn out to be rubbish - not unlikely it would seem - I'll have to think again.
Mate, how long the battery lasts with active use of unlimited web and regular calls and messaging in hours?
i can leave GPRS on all day long with msn running whilst making calls and receiving messages etc..
battery goes down to about 70%
I've not used GPRS much yet. I know that with GPS/satnav on the battery ran out after about 4 hours or so. I've bought a cheapo car charger off eBay so it won't happen again (and some replacement styluses, cheap but they're a bit of a tight fit).
Have you TRied the O2 Simplicity Package which can include Web access
Hi Guys,
Have you heard of th O2 Simplicity Package offered by O2?
I went from an O2 pay monthly contract to the Simplicity Deal.
You are commited to 30 days only.
I pay £20 per month, I receive:
400 any network voice minutes (i often select my 3 montly treat as 20 extra minutes to bring it up to 420 mins),
1000 Text Messages
UNLIMITED WEB ACCESS FROM MY PDA!!! as a free bolt on.
I was originally offered umlimited O2 - O2 calls. But later opted for the free internet as it was more of a cost saving for me.
And I get the full access with my web settings.
You will find it on the O2 Website, well advertised as the Simplicity plan at different levels.
Lee
While we are on topic of settings - need a serial number
Hi again folks,
While we are on the topic of web settings.
I have just bought an HTC TYTN II, I would like to install the O2 Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM, I prefer the O2 ROM as all the settings are pre-programmed and the layout are as O2 expect them so I can call them for Tech support.
Unfortunately, I cannot access the file as I don't have the O2 version (the XDA STELLAR) and you need to enter your O2 XDA STELLAR Serial Number to access it.
Is there any kind person out there that might be willing to PM (message) me with a serial number of an XDA STELLAR that I could enter to get the file please.
Hoping someone can help me,
Thanks Folks,
wirralot
PS: Isn't the TYTN II / XDA STELLAR just the BEST phone ever!!
wirralot said:
Unfortunately, I cannot access the file as I don't have the O2 version (the XDA STELLAR) and you need to enter your O2 XDA STELLAR Serial Number to access it.
Is there any kind person out there that might be willing to PM (message) me with a serial number of an XDA STELLAR that I could enter to get the file please.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can get it from here: http://rapidshare.com/files/1265507....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
HTH,
Is this the Windows 6.1 version
Thanks Stooby,
You are a star,
Can you tell me, is this the Windows mobile 6.1 version?
Thanks again,
wirralot