I am currently visiting Poland, and using a local simcard. During calls my old T68 displays the current balance on my account in real time. My XDA-II just displays the duration, giving me no way of checking call costs. Is there any way to enable this feature, or any third party programs which can do it?
Phone Dashboard Minute Trackerv 1.0 Arm Ppc Phone Edition
There is a good software:
Phone Dashboard Minute Trackerv 1.0 Arm Ppc Phone Edition
that should fulfill all your needs. I can send U this.
Doesn't work with pre-pay cards. I contacted Hudson Mobile for this.
It's only intended for subscribers.
Grtz,
Jos
it would be easy to program though the program would just call the api call which give the cell call time and multiply it with the price typed in by the user and subtracted from the full cost on the sim card
of cause that could be the problem that windows dont support reading that factor from the sim card
I realise call costs can easilly be calculated from the call duration, but I was referring to a feature which most phones have which shows call costs in real time based on information sent by the network.
With my SIMPLUS account here, on my T610, during any phone calls the display shows information on the balance remaining on my account. Unfortunatly with sim plus, this is the only way of checking the remaining balance. On my XDA II I only know when I've run out of cash when calls get blocked.
heyah maybe?
Swith to Heyah - new prepaid offer. It's best offer on the market today and U hear voice info before each call (ca. 14s - duration) when U have AFAIR 5 zl left on your account. It's very cheap and simple offer but there's no MMS and GPRS at all..
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anyone on data 5 able to get voice calls ( in or out)
website http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html confirms they should be available , but o2 helpline say not + not responded to my last 2 emails
bump ?
Colinc,
I have managed this. But I had to send my query via the email option. When I tried the call centre the CS person told me it was only possible to add voice calls to business user accounts not personal. I sent query by email from the 02 web site, which goes to an off-shore CS dept i think, and they activated voice calls (I did upgrade to Data 36 as well at the same time).
I take it you have a voice plan as well as the Data5?
"O2 Data 5
(With voice calling plan or as Data Only)"
Sean, no the voice calls are at the business Pay as You Go rate, see this at the O2 web site: http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/0,,141,00.html
See the details for Data5
see what you meen but it seems that o2 have at least 3 different Data5 tariffs, The one I have been quoted (and used) is £8 plus vat and is available as a bolt on to a monthly call tariff.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
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sean, but if yu click the "data tariff" ink at bottom of that page you get
http://flash.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/pdfs/DataTariffs_PriceList_1stOct2004.pdf
wich states includes the £8 pm data tariff - which I have as a standalone ( not bolt on)
"Voice calls per minute (when data tariffs are taken as a standalone tariff)
UK fixed-line numbers, O2 mobiles and other UK network mobiles 21.28p anytime"
so I should be able to use for voice , albeit at 21p pm "pay as I use"
whats the point of an "all in one machine - if I have to swap sims
been 14 days ... 3 emails ( ignored)
2 calls , - "can't do" well data specialist ageed yes... put me thro' to c/s who said NO.. then cut me ff
1 complaint letter
O2 t&c says they resolve mistakes within 7 days or I can cancel contract!! penalty free, trouble is not keen on them registering a non payment on my credit file, so might have to try and invoice them , follow thro' C Courts if need me
See what you meen, Ive never tried to use the Dat5 the way you do, so unfortunately cant help. What I do know is that when it comes to O2's data tariffs or mobile web most O2 staff havnt got a clue, I'm thinkin goin with a different provider when my contract is up.
Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
I am sorry for any inconvenience that may have been caused.
As you are on the O2 Data only tariff, you will not be able to make and receive voice calls.
You need to contact the shop, where you were informed that you would be able to make and receive calls on this tariff. They will help you further.
If you need further information about this matter, please reply to this email.
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Just got the above response from 02 after my second email.
I went into the shop in the first place and the guy just told me to get in touch with customer services. I cant complain too loudly because I want to keep the exec and so cant threaten to cancel as I dont want to, but I would like voice calls.
Any ideas ?
Does anyone have a solution to get O2 to let me have voice calls on this tarrif ?
someone said they had got the voice on a payg type rate on top if this tariff. i wonder if they're being sneaky since you (we) got our execs cheap?
jus leave the sim in a drawer, its really no use, u only got it for the phone anyway
i got 5 of them, im looking to pay them off when my trade-in cheques come through, then just pay off remaining line rental and be done with it.
When I got the deal they asked me whether I wanted voice enabled on the sim. I said 'as long as it doesn't cost anything'. Not tried it (using my other o2 contract SIM) but assume it does work.
Yeah may just bin the sim. Is there no chance I could change it to a £9 ish voice plan in 6 months time ?
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
l6cum said:
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
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Thats the thing though, customer services are saying I cant have voice calls on the data5 plan as per their reply quoted in my original post. Why let some have it on and tell others no ?
all customer service depts. employ an EU regulated quota of imbecilic monkeys. just keep trying...one will be able to read eventually.
As mentioned elsewhere I had to move to the Data36 tariff before I could have voice calls activated. If you go from a voice tariff to Data5 you might find you do have both!
If they dont want to switch them on thats up to them. I aint all that bothered. I just emailed them and said thats fine I will use my voda sim I only wanted the phone anyhow.
Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
Well voice calls can be made as well as received on data tariffs. However, there is a slight glitch. There are two basic tariffs - One that allows calls and the other that doesn't.
You cannot make calls unless you shift to the one that allows voice calls. You will have better luck getting this done if you talk to the Business customer services.
So neither is false. You can make calls as the website says. However, you need to purchase the right tariff. The one you can make calls with is called the o2 data centric.
Next time you call CS ask to speak to the Business CS (they will either direct your call or give you a number to call). Ask them to change your tariff to o2 Data Centric. That should solve your problems.
The CS at o2 is crap and just too arrogant. They have no knowledge about things and no manners at all. So much for - "Welcome to the o2 UK based Customer Service centre". Even 3 CS is a lot better.
Yes, you can also change to a complete voice tariff after 6 months if you so desire but it has to be from one of the then prevelant voice tariffs. I think there is none for £9 even today. Minimum i guess is £19.
Good luck with getting your tariffs changed. Hopefully, this information comes useful. Please leave feedback for the benefits of others.
themez2004 said:
Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
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Have now sent a copy of this to the person who was dealing with me via email. Cant see how they can refuse to do it now. Will let you know how I get on.
hello
i can make voice calls and i am on data 5 centric, good thing is that for me it costs the same £9.40 per month inc VAT, the slaes guy that i bought the phone from must have activated for me whilst i was quizzing him about it!
so if u switch to data 5 centric it shouldn't cost you extrra at all, because all that will happen is your call charegs are at 25p per min all time ie the PAYG rate.
thanks
has anybody been able to change from data 5 to data 5 centric via CS then? I might give this a go if I have the time over the next few days....
No, it is not possible to transfer from data 5 to data 5 centric. I tried this and didn't get anywhere. Eventually i spoke to some advisor who told me i had to go to the shop i bought it from,(within 14 days) and cancel the contract and sign up again (this time with centric). A lot of hassle but definitely worth it.
Good luck
Euan
Did you talk to the Business Customer services?
The data tariffs are business tariffs and CS don't have a clue about them. (Ofcourse even otherwise they are clueless.) They can do nothing. You need to talk to business CS. They should be able to help you out.
I work in o2 business customer service and have just read this thread wondering what all the bull**** replies you've had from o2.
To clarify, you CAN move from 'Data 5 Data Only' to 'Data 5 Data Centric'
I would do this for you but it is not allowed for me to just change accounts without completing a security check.
like mentioned earlier, just explain to business customer service that the people in personal c/s dont know what they're talking about and you need moving to data centric.
jp
Thnx JP, tht'll solve problems for a lot many users.
Hi
I love my XDA Exec to bits, but find it a bit of a pain to take out and about at evenings and weekends. I have a Jabra bluetooth headset, which works a treat, but still means finding a bag or massive pocket to store the brick in.
What I’d love to be able to do is use another, much smaller, ‘normal’ handset, using the same number, but without having to faff about changing the SIM from one to the other. I believe that some providers offer a second SIM, but I don’t think that O2 do. I’ve heard about SIM cloning, but I suspect that’s a rocky road to go down, legally.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Cheers
contact your carrier's service center and order a second sim for the same number, it should be as simple as that.
I wish it was as simple. Unfortunately, O2 won't allow me to have two SIM cards with the same number.
Vodafone has this...
What you are looking is called on Vodafone network Multicard, here in Spain Multitarjeta. I am using this with my JJ, primary card, (GSM works with data GPRS,3G and SMS) and secondary card is in my Nokia 6600 (can’t do data nor SMS). This option gives me the freedom to pickup a call on any of these two and they are on at the same time.
There is another solution, called Vodafone Nexus which is similar thing, you can have GSM+DATA+SMS on both terminals but not at the same time, one of them needs to be off.
As far as I know, only Vodafone is giving these options and it costs me 3€ per month…
Is it possible to clone a sim card and then have say an mda running with one installed and a going out phone with the other.
i'm guessing its possible but am after a step by step if anyones feeling helpful.
I wouldn't want to have both phones turned on at once if that makes it an easier process. Just getting hacked off at swapping sim all the time.
You cant clone a Sim like Hollywood Movies ... not normal Guys like you and me!
Talk with your Provider!
Same have a Service with Master Slave Cards. In Austria you can have 1 numbers and a lot of device they ring at the same time or in priority.
Cheers netrunner. Yep i probably have watched to many films. I tried to call my provider (tmob uk) but i'd have more luck getting into Angelina Jolie's knickers than speaking to someone there with an ounce of savvy.
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Cheers netrunner. Yep i probably have watched to many films. I tried to call my provider (tmob uk) but i'd have more luck getting into Angelina Jolie's knickers than speaking to someone there with an ounce of savvy.
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Is it possible to clone the sim...yes...but illegal. You buy one of those 6 in 1 or 12 in 1 sim's plus reader for about $10 on ebay. (oh...only Tmobile still uses the Version 1 sim's that these can clone..everyone else has upgraded to version 2 which is uncrackable currently)
Is it possible to clone the phone..yes..but illegal....the hacking and development board has a thread on a free IMEI changer...you would have to run that and make sure both phones had the same IMEI.
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Even if you did ALL those things there is no way you could have both on at the same time....every 20 minutes the phone reconnects with the tower...the tower is only going to allow 1 connection at a time so your connection is constantly going to switch from one to the other...and they will notice this and bad things will happen to your account and men in suits may show up at your door. The best you could manage is to turn one or the other on at a time which basically defeats the purpose.
Now go to your provider and pay them the extra for a 2nd line and use conditional call forwarding (forward to phone 2 when phone 1 doesn't answer..used to forward to voicemail normally) to accomplish the same thing.
Good thinking
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Is it possible to clone the sim...yes...but illegal. You buy one of those 6 in 1 or 12 in 1 sim's plus reader for about $10 on ebay. (oh...only Tmobile still uses the Version 1 sim's that these can clone..everyone else has upgraded to version 2 which is uncrackable currently)
Is it possible to clone the phone..yes..but illegal....the hacking and development board has a thread on a free IMEI changer...you would have to run that and make sure both phones had the same IMEI.
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Even if you did ALL those things there is no way you could have both on at the same time....every 20 minutes the phone reconnects with the tower...the tower is only going to allow 1 connection at a time so your connection is constantly going to switch from one to the other...and they will notice this and bad things will happen to your account and men in suits may show up at your door. The best you could manage is to turn one or the other on at a time which basically defeats the purpose.
Now go to your provider and pay them the extra for a 2nd line and use conditional call forwarding (forward to phone 2 when phone 1 doesn't answer..used to forward to voicemail normally) to accomplish the same thing.
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Right with that clever piece of logic i'll try it with a pay as you go sim and forward from the contract one and that should do what i want. (just hope the forwarding charge comes off my free mins)
Called Tmobile uk who have told me that the call forwarding to the pay as you go sim wont cost any more and will come out of my contracted minutes.
Hi, does anybody have this plan? I cannot get a straight answer from T-mobile. It says that you have unlimited surfing (well 'unlimited' to 10GB anyway) and voip eg skype. I cannot find out if the Skype is restricted to Skype users only (as '3' do) or if it is completely unrestricted I want to make calls to international numbers on Skype using my Skype account. Can anybody give me a straight answer?
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Hi, does anybody have this plan? I cannot get a straight answer from T-mobile. It says that you have unlimited surfing (well 'unlimited' to 10GB anyway) and voip eg skype. I cannot find out if the Skype is restricted to Skype users only (as '3' do) or if it is completely unrestricted I want to make calls to international numbers on Skype using my Skype account. Can anybody give me a straight answer?
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the web`n`walk max is unrestriced from what i understood and not based on Skype account
yes, cyberjak, but do you have this account and have you dialled an international number?
You're using a data connection through Skype's client software irrespective of the number your dialing.
The data doesn't cost any extra.
You don't get charged extra for sending e-mails or MSNing to someone in another country. Why would Skype be any different?
Hi Slave1, my question is not about the charges, it is: does T-mobile block dialing through Skype the same as '3' does. Do you have the max plan?
My priceplan is slightly better that WnW Max. But I don't know anyone who lives in another country and only use Skype to Skype calls (I'm a cheap skate and get very cheap calls on my mobile).
If you have WnW Max you also have Free Hotspot access. Send OPEN via SMS to 9526 to retrieve your HotSpot username and password. If this doesn't work call 150.
'My priceplan is slightly better that WnW Max' but cheaper ?
I know there are ways to get through the Skype block but I mainly want the plan for cheap international calls and I dont have a landline in my apartment. If I pay for the max plan I want to make sure it will do what I want. I have no problem finding people telling me what the plan should do (mostly they are on commision)
I have the Web N Walk Plus (Max) with my Vario III, this is what I have come across so far...
Skpe, doesn't work for me although as I understand it this maybe a software issue with the Vario III and not T-Mobile?
International, I was asked to pay a £250 deposit to have International call roaming activated - I told them to stick it
HPDPA, Wonderful and I also use it with my laptop for browsing have no idea about max download as I don't download that much.
@ gazzacbr
Order it off the website. Do it by 5ish today and you should have it tomorrow. Try Skype if it doesn't work how you want it to, send it back (you have 7 days to request this - called a DSR return, but ONLY from the website or telephone sales).
There you go, advice and no commision
ok thanks for (free) advise, Slave1. Maybe I will just try it and see.
StellaDell, I have a HTC Kaiser which is the same as the Vario III and have no problems running Skype on the web'n'walk daily plan. The version I have is SkypeForPocketPC 2.2.037 off their site. Install it from a PC connected by ActiveSync.
I have had my t-mobile PAYG for many years and roaming was activated for free a long time ago. I assume the £250 is to stop you running off with the phone if its a new contract.