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Dears, is any one aware if there is an Answer Machine Software for imate?
That if some one calls u, the software will asnwer the call (at your voice) and the one who calls might leave his message.
The advantage of it, is if you are in a meeting, then the answer machine would say I am in a meeting, or if you are in a theater, it says, wait for a while on the line, I am on theater and will answer ur call in few seconds, and so on...
Is there such a software? if not, is it easy to make?
There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.
mamaich said:
There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.
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Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.
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Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
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In general this is impossible because TAPI in WinCE 4.20 does not support a wave device. So you cannot in your program intercept and play sound that is going through a phone part. Additionally GSM in imate does not support voice modem AT-commands so it is not possible to make such a program even by direct communication with modem.
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In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.
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This is theoretically possible. I'm also interested in such program.
Thank you verymuch for your quick reply, will email you more details about this project today.
Take care.
I understand what program you are talking about, but currently I have no free time for coding.
Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.
Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
To my understanding it is not possible to record phone conversations even manually... how do u do that?
Tap the notes icon from the dialer and press the record button. It records both sides of the conversation. Very useful. Watch your encoding settings, as you could eat up memory fast. GSM 2k is fine for voice and very small.
works, but
not when using the bluetooth earplug connection.
Carlos said:
Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established. Otherwize you'll record silence. But you cannot play anything so that the other side would hear it -> so "answering" machine is impossible. Only non-interactive "listening" machine is possible.
As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
To prove that, try to record a conversation while using the handsfree headset (not the bluetooth but the wired headset) and you will see that only your voice will be recorded.
Sorry,
Rayan
Carlos said:
Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established.
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Well, for me (as not a programmer) I was thinking it is possible, but "mamaich" explained why earlier. Mamaich, would you please explain why again in more details? to me, still guess it is possible.
DareDevil said:
Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.
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Well, it is not about cost, although it might be a good idea to save some money! I do not like Asnwer Machine, I preffer sending SMS when some one is not available. But my idea originally is to develop an Answer Machine that asnwers your call if you are in Theater (Cinema), or Airplane before departing, or Conference, this message says (at your voice) "please wait on the line, I am getting out to answer your call" or something like that, and the other party will wait until you are able to answer him. I would suggest to call this as "Simi-Answer Machine". Here, the other party will not leave any message. How this sounds?
So, dear "mamaich", would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call? Of course, you need to press a button then to start talking with the other party.
Hope this sounds better!
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As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
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This is probably true for XDAs (I have not tested) but in my previous Rover S1 aka Anextek SP230 both voices were recorded (I've checked that). Maybe this is a hardware limitation of XDA.
would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call?
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I don't think that this is possible on XDAs.
HP Jornada 928 has Answering Machine
Salam
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
here's a link for more information about the HP Jornada 928 http://www.pdagold.com/files/hardware/0000000128_SNAYN.pdf
i wonder if it works for HP Jornada 928 why it doens't work for other devices like XDA or i-mate.
if i have this device i would try to extract the software from the ROM and give it a try on my i-mate Pocket PC, maybe it will work who knows?
i would like to know who develop this software for HP Jornada 928, any clue is highly appreciated.
Thanks with best regards.
Othman
Dont think it will work unless the hardware is identical as the coding must be hardware specific methinks.
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othman said:
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
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Salam Othman, You brought a good point here.
Well, I guess nothing is impossible.
Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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That's one of the few things Sprint PCS does right--the ability to tell a caller to hold on for a moment. It's done system-side though. I'd love the ability to do that when I'm on another call or in a place where I can't answer immediately.
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Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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Theoretically this can be made. But it would require reverse engeneering and modifying GSM firmware which would take lots of time.
Hi there!
As mentioned in one thread earlier, there may be no real need for an call-answeringmachine-software in the UK or USA, but there is in austria, germany, and some other countries.
The feature to give special callers an personalized away-message would be really great. So you could tell your firends or family an nice "sorry, i'm working but i'll call cou back soon" and your buisines-friends tell "sorry, please call back later" ;-) :wink:
In the mentioned countries you pay for a call you do, not for receiving calls. So to listen your messages costs.
For these two reasons, and 'cause the software exists even for a series60 phone :evil: this bit of software would be GREAT.
So, maybe one of the real great programmers could do this? :roll:
What do you mean?
Yours
Pedro
As I've posted 100 times before, such a program is _impossible_ on any of our devices. This is a limitation of OS and GSM hardware.
And besides, there is always the call forwarding feature w/c you can use to divert calls to your home or office answering machine.
i have seen such answering machine software on simbian cell phones. and even much more functional than a simple answering machine, having the ability to play diiferent messages for different nos.
why nobody tries to write such a program for PPC.
If you state that it's impossible to have such program , can you explain to me in details why is that?
I would not explain anything.
Read MSDN. TAPI don't support wave IO. GSM modem don't support voice modem AT commands. And Windows Mobile is not a Symbian.
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I don't understnad ?!?!?!
:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
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SMS Filter
I am more for a SMS Filter.
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nabilaj said:
:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
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Don't forget there is the mute button, maybe the mute function could be used when the call is answered and a wav file is played to the caller over the radio interface?
under developing
I have "answering machine" for XDA, right under developing and testing.
I'm looking for sponsor who buy my working time. then I can finish.
$20000 excl. taxes
Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.
Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.
I think that we need to deserve some respect for this guy IMHO ....
http://www.jgui.net/DND/
his site has a rather funny screenshot of black BA running WM2K5. This can be possible only in one case - he has some friends in MS. And in this case it is also possible that he has obtained there a custom radio ROM that supports voice-modem features. Lets wait for the release of his software, and I'll check that.
From The Reputation JGUI Has aruound here i would expect anything but buggy software. Just Do a searc of his name and you'll be able to read the woes of his clients.... even try it at HoFo
Hi Friends,
I want to know if there is any software available to Auto redial a number in case the phone u r trying to reach is enaged...!!!
Wont it be lovely to have such software. Most of the Nokia phones have such a feature.
Also My wish list is to have a software which will ask me to dial alternate number from your Contacts if the number u r dialing is busy..
Say if I call a contact at his home and the nuber is busy can the software pick up his / her mobile or office number and give a choice to dial the same..
I am sure some smart software engineer around in the forum can develop such an application.
Thanks in advance.
SPG
Hey SPG,
u r actually very rite mite!
it wud be great to have such a software..
coming to think of it... isnt NOKIA fones...the SYMBIAN OS a lot more advanced and better then Windows Mobile 2003 ?
well, it does look as if it is..coz they almost do everything our xda2's r doing regarding the Phone Functions... what added advantages r we getting out of having a Windows Mobile Phone OS ?
hardly anything!
infact, even the Last Caller details r so horribly organised! if u call a person's number continiously if buzy, the name gets added the no. of times u been calling ,and it moves the latest calls contacts to a page or 2 back!
it shud also be arranged like in the Nokia fones, where u can tap on the number, and it can show u how many times u been calling them
Windows Mobile , must not show a contact name more than ocne in a Day. all the no. of calls to a particular contact in a day, shud be categorised within one entry!
well, as i see lotsa geniuses here around , making lil lil very important apps, i think, if the geniuses put their minds together, they will come out with a better OS than Microsof'ts...... if not that, atleast a goooood solution for this Call handling
Gurus, please do put a thought at this n try to make some nice app for this.
thanx a lot!
long live Xda-developers forum! I'm lovin it!
i would really like an auto redial on my XDA IIs.. i can't find one.
pocketMax Redial 1.0 beta2 realised!!!!
subj
here:
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=1191.0
thank you soooo much! i'll read the forum.. then download it and test it myself. thanks so so much!
WM 2005
I tried this program on WM 2005 1.65a.96 WWE but is not working. Any redial program for WM 2005?
Thx
hi all,
i've been looking for the outgoing call waiting notification feature since the very first time i've started using windows mobile phones.. its like this; when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call.. this feature is on the very oldest fones and its a shame that its not on windows mobiles.. well, not a shame really, the "great" iphone doesnt have it either anyways, its a great feature to have.. it seem the feature is missing in windows mobile, microsoft must've missed it in the making.. however, after a looooooong time, i've read around the net that the samsung omnia displays this notification saying tht the party am calling is on a call so that i'd know that am disturbing a person on a call.. can anyone confirm this and try to rip it off the omnias rom so that we can use it on other windows mobile phones?? if so its gonna be a dream come true for all windows mobile users..
Very true! i'm also awaiting this missing functioanlity in Windows Mobile.
I Guess we should post this thread in the general section of this forum. If possible Admin move this thread there to get better exposure! and quick solution by our great xda team!
I seriously need this fuction. Anybody managed to fix this ? Please help !
does anyone have an omnia to check this and mix some files from the omnia's with the touch hd..?
I'm very interesting in this post and the solution if it has... It´s very much time with this problem... None of the experts can help us in this post...
Regards,
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
very very weird.. I cannot understand how such an important notification feature is missing.
GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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How do you do that ? and what do you hear ?
GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..
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Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..
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Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?
Xeon said:
Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?
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yup, u heard me right.. i tested it myself on the omnia of a friend.. but i dont have one with me to play with it and experiment.. and my friend wont give me his fone to do the stuff.. if only someone here could help.. i think omnia's fone app is able to do this.. if it can do, why cant we have it on our touch hd and other hundreds of winmo fones??
i dont think it has something to do with the applications but I just cannot understand how it is working on ohmnia !!!!!!!
So much time without solution, I think that the problem will never be solved.
Regards friends,
i do hear a busy tone and on the phone screen i get "busy". why don't you???
This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .
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This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .
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I think you are not getting anything here. I have the same sim card and the same services running and I am calling the same party... I get a Waiting popup message on the screen with NOKIA phones and Connecting... with WM device. Anybody can confirm that the notification works with omnia ?
yeah xeon, i gues its me and u only who gets what we're talking about.. different tone or not, other fones including nokias, motorolas, sony ericssons and all shows a message saying that the other party is on a call.. and about windows mobile, i donno about the xperia but the omnia does this for sure, i checked it myself.. a litte waiting text shows up in the fone app, where the operator name is mostly.. anyways, is there any person who'd like to help us out by checking in omnia?? and maybe they could extract files from the omnia's rom which can/might be able to use on other windows mobile fones.. i guess microsoft did miss out an important feature.. i guess they are to blame..
even htc did miss it out in their dial pad.. but samsung have included the feature in their dial pad, so i think its more than possible for us to have this feature on all windows mobile phones coz yota contacts came to our fones, xtrakt can be played on out hds, the facebook app in wm 6.5 can be used, and there are so many more.. i just wish a developer with an omnia who is interested in this feature would help us
look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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no my friend.. thats because the person who u call has call waiting disabled.. that happens to all of us too.. the REAL case is, if the person who u are calling is on a call WITH call waiting ENABLED, we should know that he is on a call/i am on waiting instead of ringing continuosly without us knowing he's on a call and am on waiting.. hope this clears your doubt..
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look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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I expect What other phones do. We should not get Connecting.. or Busy ( actually u cannot get busy because you will get disconnected and you shouldnt for a simple reason that the other party should have the possibility to swap between you and the other person on hold ). I will explain it for the last time :
When you call someone the phone status is :
1- Dialing ... --> Connected, the phone vibrates and the screen goes off
--> Busy, the other party is no accepting calls and has
call waiting feature disabled. Line is dropped
Now when you dial a person number that has the call waiting enabled other phones behave like :
2- Dialing... --> Connecting, Waiting notification on your screen and the other party receives a request to either reject you
( this is where you get the busy) or accept your call...
and hence you get connected and the screen goes off.
Now with HD, You do not get any hint that the person you are calling is currently having a conversation with someone else and you keep on waiting for him to either answer or reject you whereas with Omnia you do.
hi again , anyone know if is possible to assign the hardware botton "end call" in the right side to THE real end of call when we are in a call. ?? if exist any patch to do that is very good , i hate the way we need to end the call in wm7 .
tnks to all.
Nope it's not possible and I do believe its the same with WP7 phones though I might be wrong.
Exact, it's hard coded in a dll: keybdpdd_htc.dll one of those stuff which is specific for our hd2
So it must be possible but it ask more knowledge than I have, if anybody else...