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Once more: request for answeringmachine-software

Hi there!
As mentioned in one thread earlier, there may be no real need for an call-answeringmachine-software in the UK or USA, but there is in austria, germany, and some other countries.
The feature to give special callers an personalized away-message would be really great. So you could tell your firends or family an nice "sorry, i'm working but i'll call cou back soon" and your buisines-friends tell "sorry, please call back later" ;-) :wink:
In the mentioned countries you pay for a call you do, not for receiving calls. So to listen your messages costs.
For these two reasons, and 'cause the software exists even for a series60 phone :evil: this bit of software would be GREAT.
So, maybe one of the real great programmers could do this? :roll:
What do you mean?
Yours
Pedro

As I've posted 100 times before, such a program is _impossible_ on any of our devices. This is a limitation of OS and GSM hardware.

And besides, there is always the call forwarding feature w/c you can use to divert calls to your home or office answering machine.

i have seen such answering machine software on simbian cell phones. and even much more functional than a simple answering machine, having the ability to play diiferent messages for different nos.
why nobody tries to write such a program for PPC.
If you state that it's impossible to have such program , can you explain to me in details why is that?

I would not explain anything.
Read MSDN. TAPI don't support wave IO. GSM modem don't support voice modem AT commands. And Windows Mobile is not a Symbian.

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I don't understnad ?!?!?!
:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
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SMS Filter
I am more for a SMS Filter.

Re: I don't understnad ?!?!?!
nabilaj said:
:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
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Don't forget there is the mute button, maybe the mute function could be used when the call is answered and a wav file is played to the caller over the radio interface?

under developing
I have "answering machine" for XDA, right under developing and testing.
I'm looking for sponsor who buy my working time. then I can finish.
$20000 excl. taxes

Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.

Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.

I think that we need to deserve some respect for this guy IMHO ....
http://www.jgui.net/DND/

his site has a rather funny screenshot of black BA running WM2K5. This can be possible only in one case - he has some friends in MS. And in this case it is also possible that he has obtained there a custom radio ROM that supports voice-modem features. Lets wait for the release of his software, and I'll check that.

From The Reputation JGUI Has aruound here i would expect anything but buggy software. Just Do a searc of his name and you'll be able to read the woes of his clients.... even try it at HoFo

Can Wizard record phone calls?

Hello. Help please.
Can Wizard record phone calls (like Nokia smartphones) with installed some dictaphone?
Exists some program wich can automaticaly record phone calls?
I know Qtek 8020 can't do that with any installed dictaphone program! Then how about Wizard?
P.S. i meen record both voices (incoming and uotgoing voices)
Thanks a lot. Sorry for my English

you can try this from 1800message.com
I havent used this yet, but do use their personal vault program and it works great!

Looks great, haven't tried it yet.
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmppc.htm
Lee

WM5 has this feature built in! Unfortunately, it only works on speaker phone.
During a call, start a new note and you'll see a record button. Press that, it works great.

xenos said:
WM5 has this feature built in! Unfortunately, it only works on speaker phone.
During a call, start a new note and you'll see a record button. Press that, it works great.
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I just tried it out and it does not have to be on speakerphone to work. Basically you have to press (and hold) the voice command button. This is the one on the top end of the side with the IR port. When you let it go it stops recording though, but it is free and built in.
I am guessing that you are not in America, but keep in mind that there may be laws making it illegal to record a conversation with another person without their permission.

actually here in america (or maybe Missouri law, but i think its federal also) the law on this states that in order for it to be legal 1 party must know that its being recorded, the other party does not have to know... I sit next to a cop here at work

Now you can:
http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmppc.htm

I use PMRecorder (free from www.1800message.com) and it's always worked great for me...

shogunmark said:
actually here in america (or maybe Missouri law, but i think its federal also) the law on this states that in order for it to be legal 1 party must know that its being recorded, the other party does not have to know... I sit next to a cop here at work
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I think that's a state thing. If I recall, that woman that "told on" Bill Clinton about his affair, Linda Tripp, taped the conversation in Maryland instead of her office in DC. The Maryland law is as you stated while in DC I don't think you need to tell the other party. Thus, she broke the law in Maryland so there was talk of having her arrested there so she could be arrested for that in addition to other things instead of DC where the law was different. Or something close to that so that I remember that the broken law was a state law. In PA you also need to notify the other party. My old SonyEricsson T610 could record both sides but I have yet to own an HTC phone or PDA that could record the other party without trickery like recording the speakerphone or something.

conversation recording laws vary from state to state in the u.s.
be sure to look up local laws before recording anything

V1P said:
Hello. Help please.
Can Wizard record phone calls (like Nokia smartphones) with installed some dictaphone?
Exists some program wich can automaticaly record phone calls?
I know Qtek 8020 can't do that with any installed dictaphone program! Then how about Wizard?
P.S. i meen record both voices (incoming and uotgoing voices)
Thanks a lot. Sorry for my English
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You may want to consider using the forum search engine before asking already-asked-a-million-of-times questions
Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 for the complete answer.

dcdivenut said:
I just tried it out and it does not have to be on speakerphone to work.
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Please read the above-linked article, it explains this all.

Thanx
Menneisyys
Sorry. Don't angry.
markgamber
i think in Russia there is no problem
to all
thanx a lot

Record conversations
Ok, this is like, totally STUPID! Why would I record a file in a format I can't listen to, or even find! I am not going to upload my conversations onto somebody else's server in a foreign format, just to get them converted to something I can listen to. REDICULOUS!!!

My Challenge!

I have a challenge for every PPC user...
I have tried but due to my lack of knowledge and time I have to give up. So I leave the floor open to anyone out there...
http://www.lvlolvlo.net/2006/09/13/i-teq-challenge/

omg...someone please get this stuff out and available...those features are all i need to complete my 8125

lvlolvlo said:
I have a challenge for every PPC user...
I have tried but due to my lack of knowledge and time I have to give up. So I leave the floor open to anyone out there...
http://www.lvlolvlo.net/2006/09/13/i-teq-challenge/
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link did not work for me

seriously? it the link didn't work? hmm....just try the main site...should be working fine..the person before you saw it just fine..
http://www.lvlolvlo.net

Link works.
Nice 'challenge' I hope there isn't any hardware limitation. HTC ought to have these in their new products.

just repost the links directly into the thread so we can get the ball rolling faster. i love the backround noise option is hilarious but at the same time the most useful things ever LOL...just what i need when my GF calls and im not where i told her i would be.

Reposted inside, per request.
elite_is3 said:
just repost the links directly into the thread so we can get the ball rolling faster. i love the backround noise option is hilarious but at the same time the most useful things ever LOL...just what i need when my GF calls and im not where i told her i would be.
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Okay here's my challenge to you...
I came across this link over at XDA:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=391825.
So I did a little Google'n to see where this phone was available...and of course it's not available to us telecommunication-ally challenged US folks.
So here's the company that sells them; but of course they're in Dubai:
http://www.iteqonline.com/en_index.asp
After some more research I found the new updated ROM for this phone, and so I proceeded to unpack it so I could find the applications I wanted.
So--my challenge to you is who can provide for us the following applications from this ROM?
1. Answering Machine (Figure 7)
2. Background Effects (Figure 11)
3. Phone Recording (Figure 12) - granted I don't think this will work on the phone I want to try it on
4. Java Applet (Figure 27)
5. Voice Recorder (Figure 30)
6. Filter SIM and Send DTMF (Figure 20)
7. Magnifier (Figure 24 and 25)
All items should be in their own respective cab files for easy install for anyone who wishes to use it.
Thanks and Good Luck!
You can download the dumped rom from here
You'll need 7-Zip to unzip the archive. 7-Zip is available at http://www.7-zip.org/

lvlolvlo said:
seriously? it the link didn't work? hmm....just try the main site...should be working fine..the person before you saw it just fine..
http://www.lvlolvlo.net
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seriously, when i clicked on it last night it didnt work.. however it works today.. maybe the site hiccuped, or maybe i clicked on it wrong lol

On the Answering Machine....
First the Wizard has a hardware limitation that prevents call recording unless you are using speakerphone. I would assume this would eliminate the Answering Machine ability.
Second, my assumption would be that it would be in the PhoneDialer App. So you would need to install their Phone.dll and the control panel applet for the settings.
Third, a registry dump would be useful to see any hooks to the AnswerMachine.dll.

kyphur said:
Third, a registry dump would be useful to see any hooks to the AnswerMachine.dll.
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Any thoughts on where to get the registry dumps?
I'll do some more Google'n

I would love to see someone rip out the answering machine. I think a lot of people woudl find this very useful...

I just took the java app (exe) out of the dump and dropped it in my storage card on my mda. it seems to start up fine. i dont have any jar files handy to try out. It shows an option to install them from either the storage card or "my documents". Im no tech wiz but it seems like someone who knows what they are doing could get all of these features, or maybe some of them from this to work on a wizard.

phony said:
I would love to see someone rip out the answering machine. I think a lot of people woudl find this very useful...
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Incase you missed my previous comments about the answering machine:
kyphur said:
On the Answering Machine....
First the Wizard has a hardware limitation that prevents call recording unless you are using speakerphone. I would assume this would eliminate the Answering Machine ability.
Second, my assumption would be that it would be in the PhoneDialer App. So you would need to install their Phone.dll and the control panel applet for the settings.
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Due to the hardware design of the Wizard, WM5 has no access to the incoming audio stream. bluetooth routing is also done independent of the OS as I understand it. There simply is no way to 1) send audio out to the GSM Phone conntection or 2) record to other person.
The idea of an answering machine on your Wizard is a pipedream.

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Nice challenge, I'm interested in the answering machine.

I would be interested in the Cyberon Voice Commander which appears to add a lot of features to the relatively inferior voice speed dial we have. Also the Easy-Touch Menu would be nice, it adds the option of phone profiles and a few other handy items on one menu. It looks like it's a non resident program also so it would be handy for our performance challenged phones.
I don't have any experience with ROMS, otherwise I would attempt this myself. Is this possible?

kyphur said:
Incase you missed my previous comments about the answering machine:
Due to the hardware design of the Wizard, WM5 has no access to the incoming audio stream. bluetooth routing is also done independent of the OS as I understand it. There simply is no way to 1) send audio out to the GSM Phone conntection or 2) record to other person.
The idea of an answering machine on your Wizard is a pipedream.
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Wow I am glad I didn't know this when I downloaded and installed PMRecorder. Although the calls are quiet (unless using speakerphone) they can still be heard. But I assure you they work. If we could get the answering machine to turn on the speakerphone automatically, we could even screen calls!
Maybe the answering machine is a new upgrade to Voice commander!

TyTN - recording phone conversations

Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?

Benone said:
Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
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try vito audionotes

I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?

Nicky said:
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
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I've tried "Vito Audionotes" and "Resco Audio Recorder" and both got the same problem on TyTN; both only records your side so are useless...

Yes, it is a problem Viva, the way I have got round this is by using the Tytn headphones to make a call but I just wear one earpiece in my ear and I hold the other earpiece next to the inline microphone (you could even tape it there).
I have only ever used the inbuilt note recorder before so when I saw this thread I was hoping that there was 3rd party software out there that would record the other side of the conversation automatically so I wouldn't have to do it this way.
Anyway, thought I would mention my method in case it helps anyone

How about this
http://1800message.com/products.aspx

starfish_001 first point
1) Download either or both of applications below - NOTE: PM Recorder will only work with some Smartphones, not Pocket PC Phone Edition devices.
what is the differebce between PPC Phone and Smartphone ?
I thought my TyTN is a Smartphone but now I think it's a PPCPhone ..
So, there is nothing which can record conversations. It's a pity , phone with so big storage should have this option built-in... what you think ?
The option with some server which will keep my records it's not good for me, I wouldn't let anybody to send my conversations anywhere..
Ok, I will be still looking for some solution and let you know if find any..
Cheers guys.

Yes, TyTn is a PocketPC phone. The most obvious difference is that Smartphones do not have a touchscreen and have a numeric pad.
My C500 (Typhoon) Smartphone wouldn't record telephone conversations either, so I don't think that it's PPC specific. The incoming call simply isn't passed through the OS for it to be recorded.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that it was a conscious decision by Microsoft as some operators didn't want that functionality and they were trying to get as many operators onboard as possible. But Nokias can record conversations - even without a beep notification to the caller - so this info may not be correct.

Guys, please DO use the forum serach engine. I've long answrred these question in ALL call recording-related threads started before June 2006.
Please see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

LivePVR
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.

Hmm...
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too. You will need to use it in "speaker" mode like all others... Its just technically not possible.

Well, I have just read the article about recording via the speakerphone but I still prefer my method which I mentioned earlier in this thread.
My method records both sides of the conversation, I think the recording I get is better quality than when you record via speakerphone and the conversation remains private ... I am quite happy with my workaround

When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).

gromel said:
When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
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It will not record the other party's voice, as has already been pointed out in my article (see link above).
However, i's still teh best call recorder app available for the PPC, particularly if you use the WAV postconverter I've discussed in the article.

Applestar said:
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too.
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They did false advertising? Everyone who paid for that pretty crapy app could sue them for that. After all, the day after they've released LivePVR I've pointed out in my review it's NOT able to record the other party. That is, they were surely able of the app's inability of this.

abubasim said:
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
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Yup, it directly doesn't mention it; however, the Audio Recorder Bible (linked in from the PMRecorder article; http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp ) does and it also links in the related LivePVR review ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1218&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )

The extend of my test was one phone call. I realise now that I did the test with the speaker on.
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?

So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.

abubasim said:
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
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I'm continuously pushing the issue in internal MS forums. Hopefully HTC / MS changes its approach and does implement what Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens etc have been offering for 7-8 years.

Benone said:
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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OK, will post a note here too when there is a solution. Also make sure you regularly visit the General forum here for my latest posts.

Windows Mobile: exotic software needed

Hello,
Need following software that I could not find:
1. Call conversation recorder (tried Resco won't work properly - almost impossible to hear the person you are talking with, I suppose it uses microphone to record, isn't there any internal way to do it?)
2. ****list software to block calls and messages from unwanted numbers.
My machine is HTC Touch Cruise, Windows Mobile 6.0 Pro
Much obliged in advance for any clues.

Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?

You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...

juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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Well it's most upseting then for the phone like that. I suppose many consider it business phone, and businessmen should be most interested in recording their calls :|

l3v5y said:
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
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I know that, you gotta push and hold that damn button all the time and that is not that easy and most uncomfortable :|

in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.

No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...

I live in Europe, Lithuania, so it doesn't concern me whatsoever
NguyenHuu said:
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
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Very uncomfortable I should say, I was looking for much more automatized software, at least Resco adds date, number and some other info I suppose. And by the way does it work if you're talking with bluetooth headset on? I guess not...
l3v5y said:
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
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I doubt it...

Resco Audio Recorder automatically records phone calls (I remember because I didn't know it was on, so I filled up my storage with phone recordings).
However, it is quiet because on most WinMo hardware, you can't record incoming voice. It's quiet because it's recording from the mic (where you talk into), which I guess picks up a bit of sound from the speaker (where you listen when you talk). Maybe try talking on speakerphone all the time? Haha, I'm sure that won't work in a business setting, but it's something.

can "Call Firewall" block messages (SMS) as well? I guess not. And that is even more important for me. Anyone knows software with this function?
juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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There is a program i have tested on wm6 it's called LivePVR if you PM me i can give you a link

Try PMRecorder. It's fully automatic, and it's supposed to be working quite well.

Hi,
Vito audioNotes does a very good job on this. Good quality sound and small files.
Cheers,
Dirk