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Is there an Answer Machine Software for Imate!

Dears, is any one aware if there is an Answer Machine Software for imate?
That if some one calls u, the software will asnwer the call (at your voice) and the one who calls might leave his message.
The advantage of it, is if you are in a meeting, then the answer machine would say I am in a meeting, or if you are in a theater, it says, wait for a while on the line, I am on theater and will answer ur call in few seconds, and so on...
Is there such a software? if not, is it easy to make?

There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.

mamaich said:
There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.
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Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.

GoldenSands said:
Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
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In general this is impossible because TAPI in WinCE 4.20 does not support a wave device. So you cannot in your program intercept and play sound that is going through a phone part. Additionally GSM in imate does not support voice modem AT-commands so it is not possible to make such a program even by direct communication with modem.
GoldenSands said:
In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.
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This is theoretically possible. I'm also interested in such program.

Thank you verymuch for your quick reply, will email you more details about this project today.
Take care.

I understand what program you are talking about, but currently I have no free time for coding.

Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.

Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?

To my understanding it is not possible to record phone conversations even manually... how do u do that?

Tap the notes icon from the dialer and press the record button. It records both sides of the conversation. Very useful. Watch your encoding settings, as you could eat up memory fast. GSM 2k is fine for voice and very small.

works, but
not when using the bluetooth earplug connection.

Carlos said:
Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established. Otherwize you'll record silence. But you cannot play anything so that the other side would hear it -> so "answering" machine is impossible. Only non-interactive "listening" machine is possible.

As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
To prove that, try to record a conversation while using the handsfree headset (not the bluetooth but the wired headset) and you will see that only your voice will be recorded.
Sorry,
Rayan

Carlos said:
Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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mamaich said:
You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established.
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Well, for me (as not a programmer) I was thinking it is possible, but "mamaich" explained why earlier. Mamaich, would you please explain why again in more details? to me, still guess it is possible.
DareDevil said:
Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.
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Well, it is not about cost, although it might be a good idea to save some money! I do not like Asnwer Machine, I preffer sending SMS when some one is not available. But my idea originally is to develop an Answer Machine that asnwers your call if you are in Theater (Cinema), or Airplane before departing, or Conference, this message says (at your voice) "please wait on the line, I am getting out to answer your call" or something like that, and the other party will wait until you are able to answer him. I would suggest to call this as "Simi-Answer Machine". Here, the other party will not leave any message. How this sounds?
So, dear "mamaich", would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call? Of course, you need to press a button then to start talking with the other party.
Hope this sounds better!

Rayan said:
As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
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This is probably true for XDAs (I have not tested) but in my previous Rover S1 aka Anextek SP230 both voices were recorded (I've checked that). Maybe this is a hardware limitation of XDA.
would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call?
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I don't think that this is possible on XDAs.

HP Jornada 928 has Answering Machine
Salam
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
here's a link for more information about the HP Jornada 928 http://www.pdagold.com/files/hardware/0000000128_SNAYN.pdf
i wonder if it works for HP Jornada 928 why it doens't work for other devices like XDA or i-mate.
if i have this device i would try to extract the software from the ROM and give it a try on my i-mate Pocket PC, maybe it will work who knows?
i would like to know who develop this software for HP Jornada 928, any clue is highly appreciated.
Thanks with best regards.
Othman

Dont think it will work unless the hardware is identical as the coding must be hardware specific methinks.

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othman said:
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
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Salam Othman, You brought a good point here.
Well, I guess nothing is impossible.
Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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That's one of the few things Sprint PCS does right--the ability to tell a caller to hold on for a moment. It's done system-side though. I'd love the ability to do that when I'm on another call or in a place where I can't answer immediately.

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GoldenSands said:
Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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Theoretically this can be made. But it would require reverse engeneering and modifying GSM firmware which would take lots of time.

How to develope an answering machine!?

I'm trying to develope an answring machine. I just want to know how and with wich commponent/dll etc. I have to play wave through phone line? (I want to play wave and say please left your message after beep but I don't know how to play the wave through phone line (GSM))?
*I need .Net help!
r.Sharafi

Hi qteks200.
Have you tried searching for previous entries on this query:
My own post/poll -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
Have a glance through many, many of these unsuccessful posts on the issue; try searching for the word "poll" against my username, vijay555.
At least one set of developers, led by user "Rain" on this board, have stated that they are developing an app to help with this by intercepting the audio path drivers for the phone line. Try researching this type of stuff.
V

vijay555 said:
Hi qteks200.
Have you tried searching for previous entries on this query:
My own post/poll -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
Have a glance through many, many of these unsuccessful posts on the issue; try searching for the word "poll" against my username, vijay555.
At least one set of developers, led by user "Rain" on this board, have stated that they are developing an app to help with this by intercepting the audio path drivers for the phone line. Try researching this type of stuff.
V
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Thanks for answering my question, but my problem is not to recording files, I want to play a wave file before begin recoding!

Your problem is more fundamental then that, which is why I directed you to those links.
Due to hardware limitations of most of the HTC phones, no one has managed to play sounds down the phone line, or record from the phone line directly. It may be possible to interact with the phone line at a driver level, but I've not seen it done yet (although maybe very soon!).
V

I could be wrong, but It was my impression that if you can record both conversations of a phone call then there should be the ability to make an answering machine app, one that will at least be give the caller the ability to record a message.

Sure saqer, but that assumes that you can record both sides of the conversation. Teksoft are releasing their app, which does something clever to record both sides of the phone call, but currently on the market there is no easy way to record both sides of the call (through software, not just loud speakers)
V

I use a software called vito audionotes...it can record both sides of the voice call...I've used it and it works and I'm not using my loudspeaker to do so
edit: okay forget that....I don't know what made me think it works...it only does one end...but it works for both ends very well when calling my voicemail, which I find rather strange.
http://teksoftco.com/ like you said in another thread I think, Vijay is supposed to come out with an app that does both ends without the need of a microphone...release date TBA in December....you think they're gonna be able to do it?

I'm quite sure they can, they've done amazing things and I doubt they would annouce it without some motivations. I have some ideas too, but too busy to think of right now...
V

I hv the complete ROM dump of gsmart i..but can't extgract with mamaich's tools..see if some one can help..

Personally, I don't mind having an answering machine that records via the speaker-phone, as most answering machines do give you loud speaker mode upon answering. As a matter of fact, I vaguely remmeber that the Symbian version of answering machine does that as well (eg answering using loud speaker). And, I'm also wondering, what happens if you can turn the volumn waaaay down before recording? As far as I can remember, if you get the caller to be in the loud-speaker, you don't have to get the mic to pick up the message on the loud-speaker, right?
So, assuming that you guys can go ahead with answeing using the speaker phone mode, do you think getting the loud speaker to play the message and pick it up on the mic so that the caller can listen to it? Such app will be useful if you were to keep your phone, speaker side up in your empty, quiet room. You will be in trouble if you were in a meeting.

hdubli -I've dumped the gigabyte rom before, and although you can extract the answering machine, it doesn't work on HTC hardware AFAIK.
V

Has this been tried on a quanta device? Like the HP rw 6800 series?

Steal Files Over Bluetooth

Am currently using a Mda Vario 2. my friend has the same handset and is able to take files from my device.
How can I stop this any bug fixes
and 2 what's the program used any ideas. He is able to brows content of my whole device and copy. don't know if he is able to delete

slidingsideways said:
Am currently using a Mda Vario 2. my friend has the same handset and is able to take files from my device.
How can I stop this any bug fixes
and 2 what's the program used any ideas. He is able to brows content of my whole device and copy. don't know if he is able to delete
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Check this article out... it has information on the methods used to hack bluetooth enabled devices.
The easiest way to avoid this is 1) Turn your BT off if/when you're not using it 2) Set your device to "Not Discoverable by other devices." 3) Smash your friends PDA to bits...J/K
Even so, those clever hackers always seem to find a way around an obstacle, if they didn't we wouldn't have the useful wealth of information found on this website... Not all of em are bad.

hi just see what software thay got or hows he doing it as i would like to try it out could some let me now two thanks .

iain_2006 said:
hi just see what software thay got or hows he doing it as i would like to try it out could some let me now two thanks .
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he keeps it locked and hidden from eyes sight. like its some massive secret

Ok I am not an expert on this but while various bluetooth attacks may allow access to phone records an such (particularly on older phones) non of them should allow complete browsing of the file system an a brand new WM5 device. Your device is a TyTN equivalent correct?
I think what has happened is that at some point your friend had a chance to pare the two devices so now he has complete access. Check your bluetooth settings and delete any devices listed there. Also delete any incoming ports and uncheck 'make device discoverable'. This should solve your problem. (If not I would very much like to hear about the technique used - out of sheer scientific curiosity of course)
And by the way, if he does this to you more that once to prove that he can, he is not much of a friend...

if he does this to you more that once to prove that he can, he is not much of a friend
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Sounds like the kinda arguments guys use about, um, doing it the "other way".
V

vijay555 said:
Sounds like the kinda arguments guys use about, um, doing it the "other way".
V
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Not exactly sure what you mean by this.
What I was trying to say is that a friend might do it once or twice to show off his knowledge and not keep bugging you.

Levenum, I was trying to make a delicate joke about anal sex.
No offence meant!
V

Non taken, my brain is just a bit underclocked at the moment, its been along day.
Any way I am waiting for someone to jump in and tell me that i am not up to date and there is a way to hack in to any WM5 device by BT without users consent and get full control of file system.

V.
I am offended.... but only as I did not get it.... Oh forget it, get it?

. Your device is a TyTN equivalent correct?
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yeah its an mda vario 2.have taken device off discoverable. that's sorted it. would like to know how he's able to do this for to satisfy my own curiosity of course

its a pipe dream give it up.
BT "hacking" will never be anything more than an urban myth, sure there is some cool apps available with a snarfing button that will show some cool CIDs but geezee anything can do that

Skype Sound output switch

I have made a program for my girlfriend wizard so she can talk with skype using the earpiece instead of the loudspeaker...
It might be useful for others too, use it at your own risk, I do not take responsibilities for any damage made by this program...
It also may work with other phones, it is a matter of trying... of course again, at your own risk.
It is very simple, just run the program before a skype call and then bring it up and press "ok" to close.
If someone knows tha if skype broadcast some sort of message while making a call, please send the information to me so I can make a auto-switching program ;-)
Do not let the program running because you can really mess things around, but nothing serious... just annoying.
standalone exe file, do not sell it!!! it is free!!
Thanks.
Check the new program, at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223

Thanks man, I don't need it at the moment, but it is great idea.

this is a fix that a lot of ppl have been waiting for but unfortunately it doesn't work on my tytn 2. is there any way that you can make a universal switch or one for the tytn 2?

can someone use this fix to auto-switch when wm6 voip call is comming in?

This is brilliant, brilliant!!!!
I suggest you repost this as VOIP: Audio redirection to earpierce and hopefully the mods can make this a sticky. This is a problem that has baffled many for long.
I've tested with both Express Talk and WM6 VOIP. However WM6 VOIP has got an issue on my phone where the volume is low with lots of noise. However in both cases,the app redirected the audio to the earpiece. Express talk is crystal clear through the earpiece and is what I'll be using for VOIP calls.
Would you care to elaborate on what issues we can expect if we leave the application running for long?

one small problem is after running this .exe, i am unable to key lock my device. so as i speak over the earpiece of skype i have the tendancy to press buttons (eg. hangup) with my face.

pmugabi said:
Would you care to elaborate on what issues we can expect if we leave the application running for long?
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pmugabi:
you wont hear your phone ring at all if you leave the device running. all the sounds and notifications that come through the loudspeaker will all now come through the earpiece!

would vibrate still work?
To answer my own question, I tested it and it does! (Well I tested it on my Tilt and it worked)
My own problem now is finding a ROM that works with Skype and Troca2. The one I have now will not use the mic on the phone (whether troca2 is running or not). Either way I am making progress towards my Skype only wizard!

SKYPE and FRING on Sony Xperia X1
Have you managed to make this software automatic??
It may be a good idea if the software would work for FRING and SKYPE only without redirecting ALL the sounds.
Is it possible??
Best
Michael

I am having a issue with audio not coming out as mono on MP3 files will this work for that?

hello,
could you please make this run on WM2003 also ? i need this for my HTC magician.
thank you in advance...

MarceloFB said:
I have made a program for my girlfriend wizard so she can talk with skype using the earpiece instead of the loudspeaker...
It might be useful for others too, use it at your own risk, I do not take responsibilities for any damage made by this program...
It also may work with other phones, it is a matter of trying... of course again, at your own risk.
It is very simple, just run the program before a skype call and then bring it up and press "ok" to close.
If someone knows tha if skype broadcast some sort of message while making a call, please send the information to me so I can make a auto-switching program ;-)
Do not let the program running because you can really mess things around, but nothing serious... just annoying.
standalone exe file, do not sell it!!! it is free!!
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Thanks for your great share!!!!

Does it work on X1?

I think WM2003 is too old to run

Code ... maybe?
Hi MarceloFB,
This works great on my Xperia X1 (didn't try it with Skype, just my own VOIP app). ... Also have not tried it on my TytnII, don't even think I'm going to bother, since the TytnII hardware (as far as I know) won't support it.
I would, however, love to just put the API call into my own VOIP app instead of having the extra executable.
I have tried:
waveOutMessage( hWaveOut, /*MM_WOM_FORCESPEAKER*/WM_USER + 2, FALSE, 0 );
... as I thought that was the way to redirect the sound on devices where the hardware supports it, but that does not seem to work.
Would you maybe be willing to let me know what API calls you make in your app?
Regards
Hendrik

Hi ...
.... Nevermind ... got it working .... and on TytnII as well

Perfect
Works fine with Fring, Thanks, any idea why Skype 2.5 Beta crashes on Xperia when trying to make a call?

Works on Hermes
I've been testing express talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html and your app reroutes the audio perfectly.
Where do I send beer? I would love a today plugin.

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Hi ...
.... Nevermind ... got it working .... and on TytnII as well
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Is it possible to guide us how you changed your API to make it automatic ?
I don't know why nobody continued this thread. It is a big problem for all of WM users .
I have WM 6.1 and still the same problem . Damn Microsoft cannot fix this issue ?

Take a look at the first post, I have made a new program with automatic switch, and need people to test it and give some feedback, I intend to make corrections as bugs appears.

Skype Mobile

Im not exactly sure how it ended up on my original build, i think i went to skype.com/m and just downloaded it, but when i do that now (with the new rom) it says "there's no version for your phone"
Is their a way i can get it installed again now that ive flashed a cooked rom? (as i don't see it already in the rom itself.)
As usual, i find the answer soon after making a post.
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/

Lyian said:
Im not exactly sure how it ended up on my original build, i think i went to skype.com/m and just downloaded it, but when i do that now (with the new rom) it says "there's no version for your phone"
Is their a way i can get it installed again now that ive flashed a cooked rom? (as i don't see it already in the rom itself.)
As usual, i find the answer soon after making a post.
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
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Thats always how it happens....lol

skype mobile
looks like skype does not want to support WM anymore...
skype page says:
"Skype Lite and Skype for Windows Mobile are no longer available. For more information click here."
May be the community will be able to change their mind...
If you want to support have a look on ipetitions for keepskypealiveonwm

Problems with Skype mobile
On my phone sky mobile runs only thru loud speaker. Maybe it is a good thing that skype discontinued support for Windows Mobile, no one has to waste time on that crappy thing anymore. I always switch to desktop when I receive or have to make skype calls.

Go to Skype.com and download the .cab file.

can somebody upload the cab file here... skype site is blocked from here, but not the software service... having hardtime to download the cab...thanks in advance

you can still get it from here:
skype (dot) com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
but the WM support is according to golem.de deffinetly over now

That's a shame, it was working quite well through a headset...

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/

MykeChester said:
can somebody upload the cab file here... skype site is blocked from here, but not the software service... having hardtime to download the cab...thanks in advance
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The download is actually a 10.5MB .exe package, so I can't even zip it up and attach here. If you have e-mail that can accept a file that big, PM me and I'll be happy to get it to you that way
EDIT: I actually have just the .cab too after all...but it's even bigger (11.5MB)

MykeChester said:
can somebody upload the cab file here... skype site is blocked from here, but not the software service... having hardtime to download the cab...thanks in advance
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Here you go Myke and anyone else who wants it,
i'm guessing you can get 4shared links? hope so!
http://www.4shared.com/file/230551474/1b280cd1/SkypeMobile.html

I was really hoping this thread would have said "Hey, skype isn't going through speakerphone anymore on the TP2..." but no such luck. If Skype had no intention of fixing that horrible issue, then I really have no interest in its service on my mobile, anyway. It is disappointing, however, I used to use it on my Blackjack II and it worked great.

Hey, skype isn't going through speakerphone anymore on the TP2...
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I was really hoping this thread would have said "Hey, skype isn't going through speakerphone anymore on the TP2..." but no such luck. If Skype had no intention of fixing that horrible issue, then I really have no interest in its service on my mobile, anyway. It is disappointing, however, I used to use it on my Blackjack II and it worked great.
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But not by itself. You have to use Audioroute (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware), this program will route any sound either to the earspeaker or backspeaker. Just start it before Skype and you'll be able to use it like doing a regular phonecall.

josemald said:
But not by itself. You have to use Audioroute (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware), this program will route any sound either to the earspeaker or backspeaker. Just start it before Skype and you'll be able to use it like doing a regular phonecall.
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Nice post, Thanks

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That's a shame, it was working quite well through a headset...
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HI, It's working very well WITHOUT headset.
Just install audioroute and force to use the earpiece.

Thanks Osrix, I was having the same problem.

josemald said:
But not by itself. You have to use Audioroute (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware), this program will route any sound either to the earspeaker or backspeaker. Just start it before Skype and you'll be able to use it like doing a regular phonecall.
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Thanks, it seems useful, but not really enough. Personally I like to leave Skype active as a second line on the phone... which means I'd have to manually start it before every call (even incoming). If I were to just start it up on occasion to make a call, it'd be an easy Mortscript, but I'll have to see if there is something a little more sophisticated that I can write.

i just used skype today on my TP2 with the sound piped to my bluetooth earpiece. no issue at all and no 3rd party software required

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Here you go Myke and anyone else who wants it,
i'm guessing you can get 4shared links? hope so!
http://www.4shared.com/file/230551474/1b280cd1/SkypeMobile.html
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thanks... much appreciated

josemald said:
But not by itself. You have to use Audioroute (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware), this program will route any sound either to the earspeaker or backspeaker. Just start it before Skype and you'll be able to use it like doing a regular phonecall.
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Thanks. Now the only problem is my ear will touch some certain onscreen buttons and get in the way and when I turn the screen off, skype phone conversation stops working. I know a simple earpiece or bluetooth device solves everything but I don't like using neither.
Is there any other way I can turn off the screen and still have a phone conversation on skype?