Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
Benone said:
Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
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try vito audionotes
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
Nicky said:
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
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I've tried "Vito Audionotes" and "Resco Audio Recorder" and both got the same problem on TyTN; both only records your side so are useless...
Yes, it is a problem Viva, the way I have got round this is by using the Tytn headphones to make a call but I just wear one earpiece in my ear and I hold the other earpiece next to the inline microphone (you could even tape it there).
I have only ever used the inbuilt note recorder before so when I saw this thread I was hoping that there was 3rd party software out there that would record the other side of the conversation automatically so I wouldn't have to do it this way.
Anyway, thought I would mention my method in case it helps anyone
How about this
http://1800message.com/products.aspx
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1) Download either or both of applications below - NOTE: PM Recorder will only work with some Smartphones, not Pocket PC Phone Edition devices.
what is the differebce between PPC Phone and Smartphone ?
I thought my TyTN is a Smartphone but now I think it's a PPCPhone ..
So, there is nothing which can record conversations. It's a pity , phone with so big storage should have this option built-in... what you think ?
The option with some server which will keep my records it's not good for me, I wouldn't let anybody to send my conversations anywhere..
Ok, I will be still looking for some solution and let you know if find any..
Cheers guys.
Yes, TyTn is a PocketPC phone. The most obvious difference is that Smartphones do not have a touchscreen and have a numeric pad.
My C500 (Typhoon) Smartphone wouldn't record telephone conversations either, so I don't think that it's PPC specific. The incoming call simply isn't passed through the OS for it to be recorded.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that it was a conscious decision by Microsoft as some operators didn't want that functionality and they were trying to get as many operators onboard as possible. But Nokias can record conversations - even without a beep notification to the caller - so this info may not be correct.
Guys, please DO use the forum serach engine. I've long answrred these question in ALL call recording-related threads started before June 2006.
Please see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
LivePVR
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
Hmm...
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too. You will need to use it in "speaker" mode like all others... Its just technically not possible.
Well, I have just read the article about recording via the speakerphone but I still prefer my method which I mentioned earlier in this thread.
My method records both sides of the conversation, I think the recording I get is better quality than when you record via speakerphone and the conversation remains private ... I am quite happy with my workaround
When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
gromel said:
When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
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It will not record the other party's voice, as has already been pointed out in my article (see link above).
However, i's still teh best call recorder app available for the PPC, particularly if you use the WAV postconverter I've discussed in the article.
Applestar said:
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too.
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They did false advertising? Everyone who paid for that pretty crapy app could sue them for that. After all, the day after they've released LivePVR I've pointed out in my review it's NOT able to record the other party. That is, they were surely able of the app's inability of this.
abubasim said:
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
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Yup, it directly doesn't mention it; however, the Audio Recorder Bible (linked in from the PMRecorder article; http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp ) does and it also links in the related LivePVR review ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1218&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )
The extend of my test was one phone call. I realise now that I did the test with the speaker on.
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
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I'm continuously pushing the issue in internal MS forums. Hopefully HTC / MS changes its approach and does implement what Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens etc have been offering for 7-8 years.
Benone said:
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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OK, will post a note here too when there is a solution. Also make sure you regularly visit the General forum here for my latest posts.
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I'm trying to develope an answring machine. I just want to know how and with wich commponent/dll etc. I have to play wave through phone line? (I want to play wave and say please left your message after beep but I don't know how to play the wave through phone line (GSM))?
*I need .Net help!
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Hi qteks200.
Have you tried searching for previous entries on this query:
My own post/poll -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
Have a glance through many, many of these unsuccessful posts on the issue; try searching for the word "poll" against my username, vijay555.
At least one set of developers, led by user "Rain" on this board, have stated that they are developing an app to help with this by intercepting the audio path drivers for the phone line. Try researching this type of stuff.
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vijay555 said:
Hi qteks200.
Have you tried searching for previous entries on this query:
My own post/poll -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
Have a glance through many, many of these unsuccessful posts on the issue; try searching for the word "poll" against my username, vijay555.
At least one set of developers, led by user "Rain" on this board, have stated that they are developing an app to help with this by intercepting the audio path drivers for the phone line. Try researching this type of stuff.
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Thanks for answering my question, but my problem is not to recording files, I want to play a wave file before begin recoding!
Your problem is more fundamental then that, which is why I directed you to those links.
Due to hardware limitations of most of the HTC phones, no one has managed to play sounds down the phone line, or record from the phone line directly. It may be possible to interact with the phone line at a driver level, but I've not seen it done yet (although maybe very soon!).
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I could be wrong, but It was my impression that if you can record both conversations of a phone call then there should be the ability to make an answering machine app, one that will at least be give the caller the ability to record a message.
Sure saqer, but that assumes that you can record both sides of the conversation. Teksoft are releasing their app, which does something clever to record both sides of the phone call, but currently on the market there is no easy way to record both sides of the call (through software, not just loud speakers)
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I use a software called vito audionotes...it can record both sides of the voice call...I've used it and it works and I'm not using my loudspeaker to do so
edit: okay forget that....I don't know what made me think it works...it only does one end...but it works for both ends very well when calling my voicemail, which I find rather strange.
http://teksoftco.com/ like you said in another thread I think, Vijay is supposed to come out with an app that does both ends without the need of a microphone...release date TBA in December....you think they're gonna be able to do it?
I'm quite sure they can, they've done amazing things and I doubt they would annouce it without some motivations. I have some ideas too, but too busy to think of right now...
V
I hv the complete ROM dump of gsmart i..but can't extgract with mamaich's tools..see if some one can help..
Personally, I don't mind having an answering machine that records via the speaker-phone, as most answering machines do give you loud speaker mode upon answering. As a matter of fact, I vaguely remmeber that the Symbian version of answering machine does that as well (eg answering using loud speaker). And, I'm also wondering, what happens if you can turn the volumn waaaay down before recording? As far as I can remember, if you get the caller to be in the loud-speaker, you don't have to get the mic to pick up the message on the loud-speaker, right?
So, assuming that you guys can go ahead with answeing using the speaker phone mode, do you think getting the loud speaker to play the message and pick it up on the mic so that the caller can listen to it? Such app will be useful if you were to keep your phone, speaker side up in your empty, quiet room. You will be in trouble if you were in a meeting.
hdubli -I've dumped the gigabyte rom before, and although you can extract the answering machine, it doesn't work on HTC hardware AFAIK.
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Has this been tried on a quanta device? Like the HP rw 6800 series?
I'm unable to record the calls (2 way recording) on i-mate JASJAM (same as HTC TyTN).
I've tried the original S.W comes with the device, Resco Recorder, Vito Audio Notes and many S.Ws but the problem still there.
It can records the Calls in 2 way only if the Speaker Phone is active??!! Otherwise the calls will be recorded in one way (device owner voice only).
Is there any solution for that...??!!
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I'm unable to record the calls (2 way recording) on i-mate JASJAM (same as HTC TyTN).
I've tried the original S.W comes with the device, Resco Recorder, Vito Audio Notes and many S.Ws but the problem still there.
It can records the Calls in 2 way only if the Speaker Phone is active??!! Otherwise the calls will be recorded in one way (device owner voice only).
Is there any solution for that...??!!
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1, welcome to xda-dev
2, impossible, sorry. See my related articles if interested.
Hi!
No solutions for that?! NO Custom solutions or commercial softwares?
Why?
Where's the answers? It's strange....
This is also illegal in many or at least some states.
our once criminal president Nixon was impeached for this and other illegal activities.
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This is also illegal in many or at least some states.
our once criminal president Nixon was impeached for this and other illegal activities.
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I thought he was impeached over instructing people to break into the DNC headquarters as well as spy on opposing candidates and run dirty tricks against them, and was then stupid enough to let it be known that he kept copies of his conversations on tape.
Plus I thought he resigned before he actually got impeached, meaning he technically didn't.....
Anyway, back on topic, I remember seeing something on a HTC site that allows you to record your side of a phone conversation, but I have never seen mention of both sides being successfully recorded. I think someone on a thread on this site (probably in the Wizard forum) mentioned that the phone circuitry for incoming calls isn't routed through the PDA (or something).
(I think the thread Menneisyys was here, but as they also have 2000 posts they might be is referring to something else. Still interesting....)
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This is also illegal in many or at least some states.
our once criminal president Nixon was impeached for this and other illegal activities.
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eheheh Also in Italy .....For the developers or a big softwarehouse there're no real problem....
But for example on Nokia, a software like Natural recording or similar.....warning only with a BEEP during the call...
Hi! have a look at this article with application PMRecorder:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1
It is a bit complicated for the first step. But very usefull...
Tell me if it is what you looking for.
Yes...No...! Thanks....
Okay...old pda, pda phone, old or new wm smartphone....sigh
Hello,
Need following software that I could not find:
1. Call conversation recorder (tried Resco won't work properly - almost impossible to hear the person you are talking with, I suppose it uses microphone to record, isn't there any internal way to do it?)
2. ****list software to block calls and messages from unwanted numbers.
My machine is HTC Touch Cruise, Windows Mobile 6.0 Pro
Much obliged in advance for any clues.
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
juiceppc said:
Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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Well it's most upseting then for the phone like that. I suppose many consider it business phone, and businessmen should be most interested in recording their calls :|
l3v5y said:
You can use the notes function built in to WM6 and record it from there... Bad quality but does the job...
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I know that, you gotta push and hold that damn button all the time and that is not that easy and most uncomfortable :|
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
I live in Europe, Lithuania, so it doesn't concern me whatsoever
NguyenHuu said:
in the US some states is illegal to record phone calls and other voice recordings unless you get consent from the other party. maybe that's why they didnt put it into the phone. may be some legal issues they didnt wanna deal it and be liable for.
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Very uncomfortable I should say, I was looking for much more automatized software, at least Resco adds date, number and some other info I suppose. And by the way does it work if you're talking with bluetooth headset on? I guess not...
l3v5y said:
No... During a call, you can press the notes button within the phone app and then hit record in there. I'll post some screen shots if you want...
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I doubt it...
Resco Audio Recorder automatically records phone calls (I remember because I didn't know it was on, so I filled up my storage with phone recordings).
However, it is quiet because on most WinMo hardware, you can't record incoming voice. It's quiet because it's recording from the mic (where you talk into), which I guess picks up a bit of sound from the speaker (where you listen when you talk). Maybe try talking on speakerphone all the time? Haha, I'm sure that won't work in a business setting, but it's something.
can "Call Firewall" block messages (SMS) as well? I guess not. And that is even more important for me. Anyone knows software with this function?
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Oooooh exotic! Haha.
Use "Call Firewall" (search google) for blocking calls. For recording calls you are most likely out of luck on Pocket PC. Haven't seen a good one come across the forum yet. Anyone care to prove me wrong?
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There is a program i have tested on wm6 it's called LivePVR if you PM me i can give you a link
Try PMRecorder. It's fully automatic, and it's supposed to be working quite well.
Hi,
Vito audioNotes does a very good job on this. Good quality sound and small files.
Cheers,
Dirk
I have made a program for my girlfriend wizard so she can talk with skype using the earpiece instead of the loudspeaker...
It might be useful for others too, use it at your own risk, I do not take responsibilities for any damage made by this program...
It also may work with other phones, it is a matter of trying... of course again, at your own risk.
It is very simple, just run the program before a skype call and then bring it up and press "ok" to close.
If someone knows tha if skype broadcast some sort of message while making a call, please send the information to me so I can make a auto-switching program ;-)
Do not let the program running because you can really mess things around, but nothing serious... just annoying.
standalone exe file, do not sell it!!! it is free!!
Thanks.
Check the new program, at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223
Thanks man, I don't need it at the moment, but it is great idea.
this is a fix that a lot of ppl have been waiting for but unfortunately it doesn't work on my tytn 2. is there any way that you can make a universal switch or one for the tytn 2?
can someone use this fix to auto-switch when wm6 voip call is comming in?
This is brilliant, brilliant!!!!
I suggest you repost this as VOIP: Audio redirection to earpierce and hopefully the mods can make this a sticky. This is a problem that has baffled many for long.
I've tested with both Express Talk and WM6 VOIP. However WM6 VOIP has got an issue on my phone where the volume is low with lots of noise. However in both cases,the app redirected the audio to the earpiece. Express talk is crystal clear through the earpiece and is what I'll be using for VOIP calls.
Would you care to elaborate on what issues we can expect if we leave the application running for long?
one small problem is after running this .exe, i am unable to key lock my device. so as i speak over the earpiece of skype i have the tendancy to press buttons (eg. hangup) with my face.
pmugabi said:
Would you care to elaborate on what issues we can expect if we leave the application running for long?
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pmugabi:
you wont hear your phone ring at all if you leave the device running. all the sounds and notifications that come through the loudspeaker will all now come through the earpiece!
would vibrate still work?
To answer my own question, I tested it and it does! (Well I tested it on my Tilt and it worked)
My own problem now is finding a ROM that works with Skype and Troca2. The one I have now will not use the mic on the phone (whether troca2 is running or not). Either way I am making progress towards my Skype only wizard!
SKYPE and FRING on Sony Xperia X1
Have you managed to make this software automatic??
It may be a good idea if the software would work for FRING and SKYPE only without redirecting ALL the sounds.
Is it possible??
Best
Michael
I am having a issue with audio not coming out as mono on MP3 files will this work for that?
hello,
could you please make this run on WM2003 also ? i need this for my HTC magician.
thank you in advance...
MarceloFB said:
I have made a program for my girlfriend wizard so she can talk with skype using the earpiece instead of the loudspeaker...
It might be useful for others too, use it at your own risk, I do not take responsibilities for any damage made by this program...
It also may work with other phones, it is a matter of trying... of course again, at your own risk.
It is very simple, just run the program before a skype call and then bring it up and press "ok" to close.
If someone knows tha if skype broadcast some sort of message while making a call, please send the information to me so I can make a auto-switching program ;-)
Do not let the program running because you can really mess things around, but nothing serious... just annoying.
standalone exe file, do not sell it!!! it is free!!
Thanks.
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Thanks for your great share!!!!
Does it work on X1?
I think WM2003 is too old to run
Code ... maybe?
Hi MarceloFB,
This works great on my Xperia X1 (didn't try it with Skype, just my own VOIP app). ... Also have not tried it on my TytnII, don't even think I'm going to bother, since the TytnII hardware (as far as I know) won't support it.
I would, however, love to just put the API call into my own VOIP app instead of having the extra executable.
I have tried:
waveOutMessage( hWaveOut, /*MM_WOM_FORCESPEAKER*/WM_USER + 2, FALSE, 0 );
... as I thought that was the way to redirect the sound on devices where the hardware supports it, but that does not seem to work.
Would you maybe be willing to let me know what API calls you make in your app?
Regards
Hendrik
Hi ...
.... Nevermind ... got it working .... and on TytnII as well
Perfect
Works fine with Fring, Thanks, any idea why Skype 2.5 Beta crashes on Xperia when trying to make a call?
Works on Hermes
I've been testing express talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html and your app reroutes the audio perfectly.
Where do I send beer? I would love a today plugin.
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Hi ...
.... Nevermind ... got it working .... and on TytnII as well
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Is it possible to guide us how you changed your API to make it automatic ?
I don't know why nobody continued this thread. It is a big problem for all of WM users .
I have WM 6.1 and still the same problem . Damn Microsoft cannot fix this issue ?
Take a look at the first post, I have made a new program with automatic switch, and need people to test it and give some feedback, I intend to make corrections as bugs appears.
As title really.
I've done a search on the forum and it seems there is software available that will record calls, but this will only work if the hardware itself supports it. Does anyone know if the Touch HD will work with any software to support call recording?
The other work around I discovered doing a search on the forum was to put the phone into speakerphone mode and use call recording software, but this is obviously not ideal.
So, what's the best way to record calls on the Touch HD?
Thanks
anotheruser123 said:
The other work around I discovered doing a search on the forum was to put the phone into speakerphone mode and use call recording software, but this is obviously not ideal.
So, what's the best way to record calls on the Touch HD?
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You got it in one. Thats currently the only way.
Not quite
Resco Audio recorder works fine for me, once configured it collects all calls as mp3's in a folder of your choice (e.g. on sd).
it's not freeware though, but no speaker needed.
Not technically sure about the Blackstone, but I have both a Polaris and Raphael. I've seen comments about both of those phones being unable to record, yet I've never had a problem recording with VITO Audio Notes (without using the speakerphone trick). It's also a commercial product. If both of those phones can do it, I would suspect the Blackstone is probably also capable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=457808
hey, i was looking online
and got on a wmpoweruser site, dont know the link, and in a post they released the HTC in call recording, wat whas in a chinese or japanese rom, i got it, but havent tested it yet, its accesible when you phone, and then the right softbutton and record call, in the post they said it was recording bothsides
Duh look at the link above your post
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Thank you for helping my friend.
Excuse me if this sounds rude but that is a 20 page thread that I don't have time to look through unfortunately. Could you please point me to the page that has the relevant instructions?
Thanks
speed_pour said:
Not technically sure about the Blackstone, but I have both a Polaris and Raphael. I've seen comments about both of those phones being unable to record, yet I've never had a problem recording with VITO Audio Notes (without using the speakerphone trick). It's also a commercial product. If both of those phones can do it, I would suspect the Blackstone is probably also capable.
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@speed_pour,
Please can you explaine the speakerphone trick, I also use vito audio notes! Today I see this trick, without using the speakerphone, for the second time also in this post, but I have no idea how it works!
I can only record both voices when I activate speakerphone in settings, if I don't, I only can record my own voice during a call????!!!!!
Thanks in advance!
luckyuser said:
@speed_pour,
Please can you explaine the speakerphone trick, I also use vito audio notes! Today I see this trick, without using the speakerphone, for the second time also in this post, but I have no idea how it works!
I can only record both voices when I activate speakerphone in settings, if I don't, I only can record my own voice during a call????!!!!!
Thanks in advance!
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<shrugs>
Don't know what to tell you, I just made a call 5 minutes ago on that phone, and without turning on the speakerphone it's still got both voices on there. The other side's voice is much lower volume, but it can't be sound bleeding over because it also works when I'm using a bluetooth headset.