hi all,
i've been looking for the outgoing call waiting notification feature since the very first time i've started using windows mobile phones.. its like this; when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call.. this feature is on the very oldest fones and its a shame that its not on windows mobiles.. well, not a shame really, the "great" iphone doesnt have it either anyways, its a great feature to have.. it seem the feature is missing in windows mobile, microsoft must've missed it in the making.. however, after a looooooong time, i've read around the net that the samsung omnia displays this notification saying tht the party am calling is on a call so that i'd know that am disturbing a person on a call.. can anyone confirm this and try to rip it off the omnias rom so that we can use it on other windows mobile phones?? if so its gonna be a dream come true for all windows mobile users..
Very true! i'm also awaiting this missing functioanlity in Windows Mobile.
I Guess we should post this thread in the general section of this forum. If possible Admin move this thread there to get better exposure! and quick solution by our great xda team!
I seriously need this fuction. Anybody managed to fix this ? Please help !
does anyone have an omnia to check this and mix some files from the omnia's with the touch hd..?
I'm very interesting in this post and the solution if it has... It´s very much time with this problem... None of the experts can help us in this post...
Regards,
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
very very weird.. I cannot understand how such an important notification feature is missing.
GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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How do you do that ? and what do you hear ?
GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..
Appu said:
Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..
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Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?
Xeon said:
Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?
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yup, u heard me right.. i tested it myself on the omnia of a friend.. but i dont have one with me to play with it and experiment.. and my friend wont give me his fone to do the stuff.. if only someone here could help.. i think omnia's fone app is able to do this.. if it can do, why cant we have it on our touch hd and other hundreds of winmo fones??
i dont think it has something to do with the applications but I just cannot understand how it is working on ohmnia !!!!!!!
So much time without solution, I think that the problem will never be solved.
Regards friends,
i do hear a busy tone and on the phone screen i get "busy". why don't you???
This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .
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This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .
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I think you are not getting anything here. I have the same sim card and the same services running and I am calling the same party... I get a Waiting popup message on the screen with NOKIA phones and Connecting... with WM device. Anybody can confirm that the notification works with omnia ?
yeah xeon, i gues its me and u only who gets what we're talking about.. different tone or not, other fones including nokias, motorolas, sony ericssons and all shows a message saying that the other party is on a call.. and about windows mobile, i donno about the xperia but the omnia does this for sure, i checked it myself.. a litte waiting text shows up in the fone app, where the operator name is mostly.. anyways, is there any person who'd like to help us out by checking in omnia?? and maybe they could extract files from the omnia's rom which can/might be able to use on other windows mobile fones.. i guess microsoft did miss out an important feature.. i guess they are to blame..
even htc did miss it out in their dial pad.. but samsung have included the feature in their dial pad, so i think its more than possible for us to have this feature on all windows mobile phones coz yota contacts came to our fones, xtrakt can be played on out hds, the facebook app in wm 6.5 can be used, and there are so many more.. i just wish a developer with an omnia who is interested in this feature would help us
look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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no my friend.. thats because the person who u call has call waiting disabled.. that happens to all of us too.. the REAL case is, if the person who u are calling is on a call WITH call waiting ENABLED, we should know that he is on a call/i am on waiting instead of ringing continuosly without us knowing he's on a call and am on waiting.. hope this clears your doubt..
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look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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I expect What other phones do. We should not get Connecting.. or Busy ( actually u cannot get busy because you will get disconnected and you shouldnt for a simple reason that the other party should have the possibility to swap between you and the other person on hold ). I will explain it for the last time :
When you call someone the phone status is :
1- Dialing ... --> Connected, the phone vibrates and the screen goes off
--> Busy, the other party is no accepting calls and has
call waiting feature disabled. Line is dropped
Now when you dial a person number that has the call waiting enabled other phones behave like :
2- Dialing... --> Connecting, Waiting notification on your screen and the other party receives a request to either reject you
( this is where you get the busy) or accept your call...
and hence you get connected and the screen goes off.
Now with HD, You do not get any hint that the person you are calling is currently having a conversation with someone else and you keep on waiting for him to either answer or reject you whereas with Omnia you do.
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Hi there!
As mentioned in one thread earlier, there may be no real need for an call-answeringmachine-software in the UK or USA, but there is in austria, germany, and some other countries.
The feature to give special callers an personalized away-message would be really great. So you could tell your firends or family an nice "sorry, i'm working but i'll call cou back soon" and your buisines-friends tell "sorry, please call back later" ;-) :wink:
In the mentioned countries you pay for a call you do, not for receiving calls. So to listen your messages costs.
For these two reasons, and 'cause the software exists even for a series60 phone :evil: this bit of software would be GREAT.
So, maybe one of the real great programmers could do this? :roll:
What do you mean?
Yours
Pedro
As I've posted 100 times before, such a program is _impossible_ on any of our devices. This is a limitation of OS and GSM hardware.
And besides, there is always the call forwarding feature w/c you can use to divert calls to your home or office answering machine.
i have seen such answering machine software on simbian cell phones. and even much more functional than a simple answering machine, having the ability to play diiferent messages for different nos.
why nobody tries to write such a program for PPC.
If you state that it's impossible to have such program , can you explain to me in details why is that?
I would not explain anything.
Read MSDN. TAPI don't support wave IO. GSM modem don't support voice modem AT commands. And Windows Mobile is not a Symbian.
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I don't understnad ?!?!?!
:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
:wink:
SMS Filter
I am more for a SMS Filter.
Re: I don't understnad ?!?!?!
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:shock: Y it's not possible ???we have an option automatic pickup all what u have to do is to develop a software that will play a small message & the start recording after the beep :!: :?:
I guess only i think there will be the surrounding noise always there ???!!!
But it could start like that !!!! :roll: What about reading the messages stored on the SIM if we can read the contacts & save them on the PDA y not also read the messages & saves them also on the PDA???
:wink:
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Don't forget there is the mute button, maybe the mute function could be used when the call is answered and a wav file is played to the caller over the radio interface?
under developing
I have "answering machine" for XDA, right under developing and testing.
I'm looking for sponsor who buy my working time. then I can finish.
$20000 excl. taxes
Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.
Answering Machine under development
Hehehe, I still believe that it's not possible to do it, although JGUI claims that he's doing it.
I mean mamaich said it's impossible, and the guy knows what he's talking about.
Anyways I believe that in case it was done, it'd be nice to have one.
I think that we need to deserve some respect for this guy IMHO ....
http://www.jgui.net/DND/
his site has a rather funny screenshot of black BA running WM2K5. This can be possible only in one case - he has some friends in MS. And in this case it is also possible that he has obtained there a custom radio ROM that supports voice-modem features. Lets wait for the release of his software, and I'll check that.
From The Reputation JGUI Has aruound here i would expect anything but buggy software. Just Do a searc of his name and you'll be able to read the woes of his clients.... even try it at HoFo
Hi Friends
I have a problem with my athena
i can't get the call waiting alert!!!
it mean, when i call to someone and he is talking with otherone and i am waiting on the line, i can't underestand!!
in other phone can, and a alert show waiting... but with athena i can't see anything
sorry for my very bad english
tanX
if you can't underestand my problem, please tell me to type again better
Arya said:
if you can't underestand my problem, please tell me to type again better
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Call waiting needs to be enabled by the network operator. Have you tried this SIM card in your other phone to see if it is to do with the operator or the handset?
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Call waiting needs to be enabled by the network operator. Have you tried this SIM card in your other phone to see if it is to do with the operator or the handset?
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tanX for answer, but it isn't my problem.
my call waiting is Enable.
i want to know when my friend is talking with phone!
for example you are talking with you phone, and i call you
then i must waiting until your call end
in other phone a messege show like: your are waiting
but i can't see any thing like this in athena!!
my english is bad, i hope you can underestand my problem
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tanX for answer, but it isn't my problem.
my call waiting is Enable.
i want to know when my friend is talking with phone!
for example you are talking with you phone, and i call you
then i must waiting until your call end
in other phone a messege show like: your are waiting
but i can't see any thing like this in athena!!
my english is bad, i hope you can underestand my problem
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No phone I know of will tell the other person that they are waiting, that is a network function. For example in the UK with landlines if you call a BT phone the person calling will get "The other person knows you are waiting, please hold" or something similar while they are talking to someone else. This is a network property not a handset one.
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The only exception is devices like those made by Gigabyte, but to my knowledge HTC do not have this property.
He mean the well known problem in WM5 (and WM6) that enventualy mess with the alert queue. I got the problem and I solve it with the automatic clean-up of the program MemMaid.
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No phone I know of will tell the other person that they are waiting, that is a network function. For example in the UK with landlines if you call a BT phone the person calling will get "The other person knows you are waiting, please hold" or something similar while they are talking to someone else. This is a network property not a handset one.
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The only exception is devices like those made by Gigabyte, but to my knowledge HTC do not have this property.
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no it is not a network function!!
i test it on one network with Nokia N90, Nokia N93, Nokia 7710 and HTC Advantage
but only N90 and N93 show waiting and for 7710 and athena now happen any thing!!!
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He mean the well known problem in WM5 (and WM6) that enventualy mess with the alert queue. I got the problem and I solve it with the automatic clean-up of the program MemMaid.
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how you solve this problem?
whit a special programe?
how i can see waiting alert?
it is very important for me
tanX
Oh! Apologies, I thought you meant a signal the caller gets...
Notification Alert Queue's can be cleared with MemMaid, and I think SKTools can also help
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Oh! Apologies, I thought you meant a signal the caller gets...
Notification Alert Queue's can be cleared with MemMaid, and I think SKTools can also help
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tanX
please tell me now what i do for solve it?
what programe i get?
tanX
aloooooooooooooo
i need this
do any one can help me?
tanX
From what they have said it sounds like you use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) to fix your alert queue. It has a "Rebuild the queue" option in it. Mahjong apparently uses MemMaid's scheduling abilities to automatically clean his phone, which solves the problem for him. I don't have this problem but hopefully that makes sense to you and helps you.
good
this is very important for pocketpc and ithing we must go for it any idea thanks
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From what they have said it sounds like you use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) to fix your alert queue. It has a "Rebuild the queue" option in it. Mahjong apparently uses MemMaid's scheduling abilities to automatically clean his phone, which solves the problem for him. I don't have this problem but hopefully that makes sense to you and helps you.
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Hi
tanX for your answer!
are you sure you haven't this problem? what is your ppc?
I hope you can underestand my problem.
are you sure you can know your friend is talking or no!!
IF you can't underestan my problem, please call with a phone like Nokia N90, to your home, when you are talking with otherone by you homephone.
tanX
Arya said:
how you solve this problem?
whit a special programe?
how i can see waiting alert?
it is very important for me
tanX
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1) Search Google for Memmaid.
2) Install it in your PDA
3) Run MemMaid QuickClean (you will find it under Programs once you install Memmaid)
4) Done
This solve the problem to me.
Ah I almost forgot to mention that I learned about those 4 steps reading the messages at xda-developers.com... The Search option you find in the top of every page is a great tool.
Best regards,
mahjong
I think you guys must be confused...
In my case, when i call someone that is on a call with call waiting activated on my HTC Touch doesn't "say" anything. On my old Nokia it "says" Waiting.
Another think i noticed is when i receive a diverted call on the old phone says "diverted call" and then put a simbol before the number. On my new phone no information about it is displayed.
I know this happens with HTC's... don't know about other brands...
Can anyone know if there is any app that can make the phone "smarter" in this case?
PBaz said:
I think you guys must be confused...
In my case, when i call someone that is on a call with call waiting activated on my HTC Touch doesn't "say" anything. On my old Nokia it "says" Waiting.
Another think i noticed is when i receive a diverted call on the old phone says "diverted call" and then put a simbol before the number. On my new phone no information about it is displayed.
I know this happens with HTC's... don't know about other brands...
Can anyone know if there is any app that can make the phone "smarter" in this case?
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YES. My Problem is it, not anything else
thank you for your translate
I think it should be slove with a application to show AT Command and ...
i hope other one also underestand my problem!!
Only for Uping Thread
sorry
my program is still not solved:-(
hi all,
any s/w available for having video ringtones on wm5 ?
why would you want video ringtones?
Something eye catching for deaf people?
it looks cool...so is nethin 4 tht available ?
time to keep this post on the top of the thread. someone please code this up before apple takes credit for one more thing.
http://gizmodo.com/5020939/video-ringtones-for-iphone-revolutionize-answering-your-phone
and i dont want to hear "oh thats stupid" because after apple does it...it will be the best thing since slice bread.
it would be nice to see it in a program like S2U.
rzanology said:
time to keep this post on the top of the thread. someone please code this up before apple takes credit for one more thing.
http://gizmodo.com/5020939/video-ringtones-for-iphone-revolutionize-answering-your-phone
and i dont want to hear "oh thats stupid" because after apple does it...it will be the best thing since slice bread.
it would be nice to see it in a program like S2U.
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If I could work out how to capture calls, I'd give it a shot... But, I haven't worked it out yet!
I hate Apples marketing lies too!
VERY DOPE IDEA.....someone please hop on this
ya for real i will donate or pay. we need something way cool to shut the iphone people up. video ringtones
maybe itll be easier to start with animated flash or gif instead of full vdeio clips? very interesting idea indeed!
If you could capture the incoming call
the all that woyld be needed is like tcpmp to play full screen video
or even wmp instead of audio ringtone
With 2 buttons Ignore and answer
And of course the caller ID info displaying
I havet written code in 10 yrs and I was never that good
i wish i was though
This is a great idea
But sprint phones had Video Ringtones like 5 years ago
On the sanyo mm500
So APPLE didnt revolutionize sh**
But WinMo can make it BETTER!!!
Apple are not revolutionary, and this is done by a seperate company anyway...
I'll package up a very basic call capturer as a test to see if it works in theory... Then I'll try and embed some form of media player...
could we maybe modify photo app by removing limitations (picture format),so it can play gif's as someone mentioned....or maybe a plug-in will be enough....it'll just take to make a plug-in
I was just wondering yesterday why WM phones can't do this. Seeing that a lot of non-smartphones can do it. I don't really mind since it's kind of pointless. I have S2U2 showing who's calling me, which is actually useful.
I think this is a cool idea, not sure that I would use it, but nevertheless..nice idea
Here's a quick test app to see if it's possible to intercept the calls...
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Here's a quick test app to see if it's possible to intercept the calls...
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So has anyone tried this yet?
Edit: I put it on my device but I'm not sure what to do with it. When I click on the icon it gives me some screen about the caller name, the caller number & the caller contact... with the only options to accept or reject. Any suggestions or just a description l3v5y?
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So has anyone tried this yet?
Edit: I put it on my device but I'm not sure what to do with it. When I click on the icon it gives me some screen about the caller name, the caller number & the caller contact... with the only options to accept or reject. Any suggestions or just a description l3v5y?
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Wait until you get a call and tell me if it pops up above the default screen.
**waiting anxiously**
**joining stanglifemike**
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**joining stanglifemike**
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Get a call! And then tell me if it works!
(I'm not popular enough to have people call me )
http://kunyi.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!30484CDA412A1D29!901.entry
Found this on the net and thought a few people might be interested
Doesn't look all that different now does it?
Ehm? Flat upper-bar?
Whatta hell? Year 2002 called, it wants his single-color bars back.
Seems like Microsoft gave up on trying to make "professional" looks match the iPhone. Which is not good.
Edited addon: Ah, the greyish scroll bars are still there to add clutter to the today-screen and meet the user with oodles of usability.
Deepfish included... Interesting.
can't believe it still looks like sh**
lol still look identical, MS really dont want to get on the move and do something more like apple
maarch said:
lol still look identical, MS really dont want to get on the move and do something more like apple
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gtfo.......
From the pictures it looks like Internet Calling is now supported on the ROM, so maybe there will be new rtcdll files that will fix the speaker.
Wow, people are complaining about not having gradient bars... Hmm, should you really be using a PDA phone then? Personally I don't like gradient bars. I'd rather have my text more readable on a distinctly opposite colored background. But I'm more for function. Hopefully Deepfish will be on it and it better be good because that's the race that M$ needs to catch up on. Web browsing. Not what color the bars are.
Photon is rumored to be the "real change". We'll see...
Well if the next version goes the same way as Vista did then I feel I will be looking at an Iphone. Just think of all the pop ups you can "ok" when a new call comes in.
Ring Ring ---> pop up
A new call has been dected do you want to answer ?
The New caller can not be found in your adddress book, do you still want to answer it?
The caller is on hold do you still want to answer it anyaway.
The caller has been rejected as his phone has not been signed or does not have a Windows operating system.
maarch said:
lol still look identical, MS really dont want to get on the move and do something more like apple
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He's right. MS needs to stop slacking and put out something they called "revolutionary" sooner than later. This 6.1 looks terrible.
Don't know what people were expecting. Why would a point update include real big changes?
I'm not sure that is an actual release for Windows Mobile PPC, but I know what it looks like for the Standard: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/12/07/windows-mobile-61-video-walkthrough/
Sorry, I don´t trust it, for me its a fake,
but we´ll see.
Cheers and regards
Anja31
yea where's the new vista like UI thats supposed to be there
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Well if the next version goes the same way as Vista did then I feel I will be looking at an Iphone. Just think of all the pop ups you can "ok" when a new call comes in.
Ring Ring ---> pop up
A new call has been dected do you want to answer ?
The New caller can not be found in your adddress book, do you still want to answer it?
The caller is on hold do you still want to answer it anyaway.
The caller has been rejected as his phone has not been signed or does not have a Windows operating system.
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LOL UAC sucks big time...
MDAIIIUser said:
Well if the next version goes the same way as Vista did then I feel I will be looking at an Iphone. Just think of all the pop ups you can "ok" when a new call comes in.
Ring Ring ---> pop up
A new call has been dected do you want to answer ?
The New caller can not be found in your adddress book, do you still want to answer it?
The caller is on hold do you still want to answer it anyaway.
The caller has been rejected as his phone has not been signed or does not have a Windows operating system.
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You forgot about the popup that asks if you are wearing a condom for protection from all then nasties the caller may have.
He He He.
Psi
not sure if its just me that hates this, but if your on the manila sms tab and you hit the call button to bring up the phone pad, it automtically starts dialing the number of the sms that is currently on view.
is there a way to turn this off ? i want to press the call button and choose the contact.
any ideas ?
thanks
tas
taz2007 said:
not sure if its just me that hates this, but if your on the manila sms tab and you hit the call button to bring up the phone pad, it automtically starts dialing the number of the sms that is currently on view.
is there a way to turn this off ? i want to press the call button and choose the contact.
any ideas ?
thanks
tas
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Why not just come out of sms tab then hit call button?
well, yes that is the sensible option, and i really dont have an answer for that for some reason ill read a text and then decide to call someone at that moment..seems to happen a lot with me, before i know it im calling someone i dont want to call.
just thought if there is some sort of reg fix..or anything really..
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well, yes that is the sensible option, and i really dont have an answer for that for some reason ill read a text and then decide to call someone at that moment..seems to happen a lot with me, before i know it im calling someone i dont want to call.
just thought if there is some sort of reg fix..or anything really..
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So your reading a text from someone, but decide to phone someone else......lol
Anywayz, I haven't heard of a reg fix for this. Maybe somebody else can chip in. I'll have a look at the registry see if I can find something
thats the jist of it...i pick up my phone to read an sms..then i think ah as i have my phone in my hand i better call this person or other way round i go to call someone and then i see i have a text...sooo what ends up happening...yup im calling the wrong person.ha.
if anyone finds a hack that would be cool..but im sure i can live it.
im curious now, i cant be the only person that doesnt like this
taz2007 said:
thats the jist of it...i pick up my phone to read an sms..then i think ah as i have my phone in my hand i better call this person or other way round i go to call someone and then i see i have a text...sooo what ends up happening...yup im calling the wrong person.ha.
if anyone finds a hack that would be cool..but im sure i can live it.
im curious now, i cant be the only person that doesnt like this
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You may not be, but generally (as a rule of thumb) if I'm reading a msg from someone that person is on my mind so I'd want to ring him/her..........but thats just me lol