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Call Waiting

Hi Friends
I have a problem with my athena
i can't get the call waiting alert!!!
it mean, when i call to someone and he is talking with otherone and i am waiting on the line, i can't underestand!!
in other phone can, and a alert show waiting... but with athena i can't see anything
sorry for my very bad english
tanX

if you can't underestand my problem, please tell me to type again better

Arya said:
if you can't underestand my problem, please tell me to type again better
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Call waiting needs to be enabled by the network operator. Have you tried this SIM card in your other phone to see if it is to do with the operator or the handset?

jmdrizen said:
Call waiting needs to be enabled by the network operator. Have you tried this SIM card in your other phone to see if it is to do with the operator or the handset?
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tanX for answer, but it isn't my problem.
my call waiting is Enable.
i want to know when my friend is talking with phone!
for example you are talking with you phone, and i call you
then i must waiting until your call end
in other phone a messege show like: your are waiting
but i can't see any thing like this in athena!!
my english is bad, i hope you can underestand my problem

Arya said:
tanX for answer, but it isn't my problem.
my call waiting is Enable.
i want to know when my friend is talking with phone!
for example you are talking with you phone, and i call you
then i must waiting until your call end
in other phone a messege show like: your are waiting
but i can't see any thing like this in athena!!
my english is bad, i hope you can underestand my problem
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No phone I know of will tell the other person that they are waiting, that is a network function. For example in the UK with landlines if you call a BT phone the person calling will get "The other person knows you are waiting, please hold" or something similar while they are talking to someone else. This is a network property not a handset one.
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The only exception is devices like those made by Gigabyte, but to my knowledge HTC do not have this property.

He mean the well known problem in WM5 (and WM6) that enventualy mess with the alert queue. I got the problem and I solve it with the automatic clean-up of the program MemMaid.

jmdrizen said:
No phone I know of will tell the other person that they are waiting, that is a network function. For example in the UK with landlines if you call a BT phone the person calling will get "The other person knows you are waiting, please hold" or something similar while they are talking to someone else. This is a network property not a handset one.
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The only exception is devices like those made by Gigabyte, but to my knowledge HTC do not have this property.
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no it is not a network function!!
i test it on one network with Nokia N90, Nokia N93, Nokia 7710 and HTC Advantage
but only N90 and N93 show waiting and for 7710 and athena now happen any thing!!!

mahjong said:
He mean the well known problem in WM5 (and WM6) that enventualy mess with the alert queue. I got the problem and I solve it with the automatic clean-up of the program MemMaid.
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how you solve this problem?
whit a special programe?
how i can see waiting alert?
it is very important for me
tanX

Oh! Apologies, I thought you meant a signal the caller gets...
Notification Alert Queue's can be cleared with MemMaid, and I think SKTools can also help

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Oh! Apologies, I thought you meant a signal the caller gets...
Notification Alert Queue's can be cleared with MemMaid, and I think SKTools can also help
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tanX
please tell me now what i do for solve it?
what programe i get?
tanX

aloooooooooooooo
i need this
do any one can help me?
tanX

From what they have said it sounds like you use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) to fix your alert queue. It has a "Rebuild the queue" option in it. Mahjong apparently uses MemMaid's scheduling abilities to automatically clean his phone, which solves the problem for him. I don't have this problem but hopefully that makes sense to you and helps you.

good
this is very important for pocketpc and ithing we must go for it any idea thanks

Goatmaster said:
From what they have said it sounds like you use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) to fix your alert queue. It has a "Rebuild the queue" option in it. Mahjong apparently uses MemMaid's scheduling abilities to automatically clean his phone, which solves the problem for him. I don't have this problem but hopefully that makes sense to you and helps you.
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Hi
tanX for your answer!
are you sure you haven't this problem? what is your ppc?
I hope you can underestand my problem.
are you sure you can know your friend is talking or no!!
IF you can't underestan my problem, please call with a phone like Nokia N90, to your home, when you are talking with otherone by you homephone.
tanX

Arya said:
how you solve this problem?
whit a special programe?
how i can see waiting alert?
it is very important for me
tanX
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1) Search Google for Memmaid.
2) Install it in your PDA
3) Run MemMaid QuickClean (you will find it under Programs once you install Memmaid)
4) Done
This solve the problem to me.
Ah I almost forgot to mention that I learned about those 4 steps reading the messages at xda-developers.com... The Search option you find in the top of every page is a great tool.
Best regards,
mahjong

I think you guys must be confused...
In my case, when i call someone that is on a call with call waiting activated on my HTC Touch doesn't "say" anything. On my old Nokia it "says" Waiting.
Another think i noticed is when i receive a diverted call on the old phone says "diverted call" and then put a simbol before the number. On my new phone no information about it is displayed.
I know this happens with HTC's... don't know about other brands...
Can anyone know if there is any app that can make the phone "smarter" in this case?

PBaz said:
I think you guys must be confused...
In my case, when i call someone that is on a call with call waiting activated on my HTC Touch doesn't "say" anything. On my old Nokia it "says" Waiting.
Another think i noticed is when i receive a diverted call on the old phone says "diverted call" and then put a simbol before the number. On my new phone no information about it is displayed.
I know this happens with HTC's... don't know about other brands...
Can anyone know if there is any app that can make the phone "smarter" in this case?
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YES. My Problem is it, not anything else
thank you for your translate
I think it should be slove with a application to show AT Command and ...
i hope other one also underestand my problem!!

Only for Uping Thread
sorry
my program is still not solved:-(

[Q] OUTGOING call waiting notification

hi all,
i've been looking for the outgoing call waiting notification feature since the very first time i've started using windows mobile phones.. its like this; when i call someone and that someone is on a call with another person, i should get a message saying that the person is on a call so that i'd know that he is busy with another call.. this feature is on the very oldest fones and its a shame that its not on windows mobiles.. well, not a shame really, the "great" iphone doesnt have it either anyways, its a great feature to have.. it seem the feature is missing in windows mobile, microsoft must've missed it in the making.. however, after a looooooong time, i've read around the net that the samsung omnia displays this notification saying tht the party am calling is on a call so that i'd know that am disturbing a person on a call.. can anyone confirm this and try to rip it off the omnias rom so that we can use it on other windows mobile phones?? if so its gonna be a dream come true for all windows mobile users..

Very true! i'm also awaiting this missing functioanlity in Windows Mobile.
I Guess we should post this thread in the general section of this forum. If possible Admin move this thread there to get better exposure! and quick solution by our great xda team!

I seriously need this fuction. Anybody managed to fix this ? Please help !

does anyone have an omnia to check this and mix some files from the omnia's with the touch hd..?

I'm very interesting in this post and the solution if it has... It´s very much time with this problem... None of the experts can help us in this post...
Regards,

I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.

very very weird.. I cannot understand how such an important notification feature is missing.

GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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How do you do that ? and what do you hear ?

GoldCoin said:
I don't have this problem.
If i call someone and this person is in a call i can hear that.
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Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..

Appu said:
Thats because your operator does that for you.. not all operators does this.. but all fones except winmo and iphone shows a notification saying the other party is on a call.. but whats interesting is the SAMSUNG OMNIA can do this and its winmo.. so if it can, it means all winmo can do it..
and whats sad is, no one can still mix up the files of the OMNIA with the touch hd (or any other winmo fone). is there anyone out there who knows how to mess with stuff and who is willing to do some experimenting? comon guys, its really a wish come true for all of us winmo users..
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Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?

Xeon said:
Wait a minute. Omnia can do this ? this is not a missing feature in WM ? WTF !? Why do we always have to suffer with the OS ?
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yup, u heard me right.. i tested it myself on the omnia of a friend.. but i dont have one with me to play with it and experiment.. and my friend wont give me his fone to do the stuff.. if only someone here could help.. i think omnia's fone app is able to do this.. if it can do, why cant we have it on our touch hd and other hundreds of winmo fones??

i dont think it has something to do with the applications but I just cannot understand how it is working on ohmnia !!!!!!!

So much time without solution, I think that the problem will never be solved.
Regards friends,

i do hear a busy tone and on the phone screen i get "busy". why don't you???

This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .

tkolev said:
This is something the operator does. First of all, the person you are calling should have the 'call waiting' service enabled. Then if you call him/her, the operator should provide you with different tone (not calling or busy) and you will know that the other party is in a call and he/she will get a notification that you are waiting on the second line (that's also done by the operator). So don't blame Microsoft for something that's not actualy their fault. Blame them for something that's their fault .
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I think you are not getting anything here. I have the same sim card and the same services running and I am calling the same party... I get a Waiting popup message on the screen with NOKIA phones and Connecting... with WM device. Anybody can confirm that the notification works with omnia ?

yeah xeon, i gues its me and u only who gets what we're talking about.. different tone or not, other fones including nokias, motorolas, sony ericssons and all shows a message saying that the other party is on a call.. and about windows mobile, i donno about the xperia but the omnia does this for sure, i checked it myself.. a litte waiting text shows up in the fone app, where the operator name is mostly.. anyways, is there any person who'd like to help us out by checking in omnia?? and maybe they could extract files from the omnia's rom which can/might be able to use on other windows mobile fones.. i guess microsoft did miss out an important feature.. i guess they are to blame..
even htc did miss it out in their dial pad.. but samsung have included the feature in their dial pad, so i think its more than possible for us to have this feature on all windows mobile phones coz yota contacts came to our fones, xtrakt can be played on out hds, the facebook app in wm 6.5 can be used, and there are so many more.. i just wish a developer with an omnia who is interested in this feature would help us

look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.

KukurikU said:
look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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no my friend.. thats because the person who u call has call waiting disabled.. that happens to all of us too.. the REAL case is, if the person who u are calling is on a call WITH call waiting ENABLED, we should know that he is on a call/i am on waiting instead of ringing continuosly without us knowing he's on a call and am on waiting.. hope this clears your doubt..

KukurikU said:
look at my pic in post 14. what else do you expect? what else do u need? a pop-up notice? anyway, imho the most important thing here is the "busy" tone i get because even if i'll have a full screen pop-up i'll probably miss it when the phone is at my ear and probably with the screen off already.
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I expect What other phones do. We should not get Connecting.. or Busy ( actually u cannot get busy because you will get disconnected and you shouldnt for a simple reason that the other party should have the possibility to swap between you and the other person on hold ). I will explain it for the last time :
When you call someone the phone status is :
1- Dialing ... --> Connected, the phone vibrates and the screen goes off
--> Busy, the other party is no accepting calls and has
call waiting feature disabled. Line is dropped
Now when you dial a person number that has the call waiting enabled other phones behave like :
2- Dialing... --> Connecting, Waiting notification on your screen and the other party receives a request to either reject you
( this is where you get the busy) or accept your call...
and hence you get connected and the screen goes off.
Now with HD, You do not get any hint that the person you are calling is currently having a conversation with someone else and you keep on waiting for him to either answer or reject you whereas with Omnia you do.

Incoming SMS

Hello all, Just wondered, on my Dash, when I got incoming SMS the screen will tunr on and let me see the msg for a while, then go to idle again. on the Snap, its not. I only hear the sound and thats it... any way to change it?

not yet..but im sure with time and reg tweaks we'll figure that out!
also im sure the new rom being cooked by ookba will have a few new added surprises

[email protected] said:
Hello all, Just wondered, on my Dash, when I got incoming SMS the screen will tunr on and let me see the msg for a while, then go to idle again. on the Snap, its not. I only hear the sound and thats it... any way to change it?
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Yea, it's something under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power. I just cannot recall what. Carefully poke around in there or do some searching about that key and SMS. Good luck!

What can I say, I love this forum!
looking forward, and every day for your new cooked rom

There is an app called SMS Bubble which will allow this.

I have SMS bubble installed but there is no option for that, or at least I didn't find it...
I was also trying to look at the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power
but cant figure out which one I need

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Yea, it's something under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power. I just cannot recall what. Carefully poke around in there or do some searching about that key and SMS. Good luck!
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waiting for your ROM, bro

Wake on power button only

Have had no joy trying to find a solution to this...
I have disabled screen lock so currently all keys wake screen. I would like to change this so only the power button wakes the screen....help please.
Thanks
Do u thinking they are good in providing managed forex account

i'm looking for this solution too... wake up with any key is boring me a lot... I hate this!

sandy_woodward said:
Do u thinking they are good in providing managed forex account
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If you could tell me anything about their charges, then I could tell you....
was browsing their site and didn't find it.....
you can simply pm me about it

honestly no idea where that link came from, sorry

honestly someone must have a solution to this, it must be bugging people....

Bumping indeed, wanting this solution also

I'd like to know this as well... Also the answer button is a waste of space. Why would anyone need it if theoretically it shouldn't be possible to answer a call without finger slide. Sometimes I answer calls by mistake when removing the device from the pouch...

I think this is one of the reasons for my battery depletion. Every time I pull my HD2 out of my pocket, the screen is always on...

This really needs a solution
When taking the phone out of my pocket I have seen it in Opera, other apps and worst of all I heard my pocket talking to me on Monday - pulled my phone out and I had called someone who had been called by me listening to everything I was saying!
As I said this really needs a solution ASAP if anyone can help...

coops99 said:
When taking the phone out of my pocket I have seen it in Opera, other apps and worst of all I heard my pocket talking to me on Monday - pulled my phone out and I had called someone who had been called by me listening to everything I was saying!
As I said this really needs a solution ASAP if anyone can help...
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For now you might be better of by using Lock Screen, it can still turn on your phone with any hardkey. But atleast the screen itself is locked so you can't call someone, or start any programs.

I understand lock screen is an option but the simplicity of a one click lock/unlock makes the phone that much quicker to get into and better to use....
we just need a way to disable the other 4 buttons (expect power) from waking the device....

bump...anyone

I would like to know as well.
Also, I want the "answer" and "hang up" hard keys disabled when I receive a call. This made me pickup or ignore call which I did not want to pickup/ignore.

Only solution would be a custom rom with device lock/button lock coocked in it.

xmoo said:
Only solution would be a custom rom with device lock/button lock coocked in it.
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Well PocketShield is halfway there. it disables the hangup button nicely, but I can still push the hard pickup button.

depl0y said:
I would like to know as well.
Also, I want the "answer" and "hang up" hard keys disabled when I receive a call. This made me pickup or ignore call which I did not want to pickup/ignore.
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Try this solution
You need this cab for it

Lennart88 said:
Try this solution
You need this cab for it
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Superb! It works! Thanks so much!

Getting Closer
It seems like someone has at least managed to control the hard keys now... surely someone must be able to make this control the power button only for wake....
please....

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Try this solution
You need this cab for it
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It's not work for me with 1.61 Rom...
In Call Lock.exe produce "Unexpected error"
But, I really need this trick

Reason4444, do you have .Net 3.5 installed?

Announce caller name

I've had a search, but couldn't find anything ..
Is there a way to make the HD2 say the callers name (if in phonebook) when an incoming call comes in and you are using a headset?
It's a pain to have to look at the phone all the time before knowing whether to press the "answer key" on the headset.
ROM 1.48
Thanks!

blanco360 said:
I've had a search, but couldn't find anything ..
Is there a way to make the HD2 say the callers name (if in phonebook) when an incoming call comes in and you are using a headset?
It's a pain to have to look at the phone all the time before knowing whether to press the "answer key" on the headset.
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Thanks!
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Have a look here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416774
They're discussing doing that exact thing with MS Voice Command, but on a Diamond.

Ahah.. great, thanks
Not sure if it's worth paying £30 though just to have someone tell me who is calling, lo.

blanco360 said:
Ahah.. great, thanks
Not sure if it's worth paying £30 though just to have someone tell me who is calling, lo.
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Yeah, too right!
Maybe just record yourself saying the names of the more important people on your contact list and set the samples as ringtones for those people. You could do it for everyone on your list if you wanted to.
Not a perfect solution, I know, but it would work (and it's free )

Haha - I guess.
What I really want though is it will only say the name if I am using the headset.
If the headset isn't plugged in, I don't want it announcing the callers name to everyone around me

I wondered. My trinity could do that. But it was due to a rom I got from here, I think.
Somehow it was a nice feature. But utterly scary at the first time.