HD vs Diamond - Touch HD General

I've been having a lot of problems with battery life on 2 Diamonds now, despite trying pretty much every tweak listed on the Diamond forum. Sometimes battery life is as low as 8 hours with minimal usage, other days it's fine.
I've been offered a replacement of a different model and am considering the HD. Does anyone know how the battery life compares in the real world, and whether it's more consistent?
Also, I found the touch screen on the Diamond requires very hard presses, which means a 'drag' is often mistaken for a tap by the phone. Compared to the iPhone, the touch screen is awful. Is the HD any better in this respect?
Thanks,
Neil

Most of us have only had our HDs for a very short time so battery life is hard to gauge.
I have push email on constantly, the screen on auto and make regular calls. I find the battery lasts about a day and a half - a bit longer than the Diamond and the Raphael (both of which I have also had recently).
The screen is wonderful. Brighter and crisper than the Diamond; on a par with the Raphael (albeit more responsive).

apd said:
Most of us have only had our HDs for a very short time so battery life is hard to gauge.
I have push email on constantly, the screen on auto and make regular calls. I find the battery lasts about a day and a half - a bit longer than the Diamond and the Raphael (both of which I have also had recently).
The screen is wonderful. Brighter and crisper than the Diamond; on a par with the Raphael (albeit more responsive).
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Not related so apologies but I notice you are on T-Mobile.
I don't suppose you would care to mention what tariff's you are on.
I'm about to pop down to T-Mobile and have a look at their Solo tarrif's with Unlimited Web Browsing Bolt-on.
Thanks in advance
...... and again I apologise for temporarily hijacking the topic.
Beards

apd said:
Most of us have only had our HDs for a very short time so battery life is hard to gauge.
I have push email on constantly, the screen on auto and make regular calls. I find the battery lasts about a day and a half - a bit longer than the Diamond and the Raphael (both of which I have also had recently).
The screen is wonderful. Brighter and crisper than the Diamond; on a par with the Raphael (albeit more responsive).
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I have to agree here. Haven't had my Touch HD but a day and have noticed longer battery life than my Touch Pro. I've got 3 e-mail accounts. two of which check e-mail every 15 minutes. My Touch Pro would barely make it a day sometimes. HD even on an unbroken in battery lasts longer.

Just a sidebar comment:
I'm still adjusting to the size of the Touch HD vs the Diamond. It's so much bigger -- almost exactly the same as that iThingie. I love the screen! But the compact slim Diamond has spoilt me ... my ideal device is the same size as the Diamond but with full-front screen a la Touch HD, 3.5 audio, microSD slot. Every time I use the Touch HD it feels so huge compared to the Diamond ... but I'm sure I'll get used to it. Eventually.
And yes, the battery lasts longer than the Diamond. And the GPS gets a fix much faster.

Phone came off charge Tuesday night and i'm over half battery, though I have had the cell stack disabled (flight mode) for about 4-5 hours I have been using it for testing and playing a lot. Impressed with the life.

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Battery Time

Hello
Just wanted to ask other xda II users what there battery times are like.
I've had mine two weeks and have found times getting steadily worse. Today i've had the phone on from 8am to 6pm and its gone from 100% to 9%, i've had 40mins call time and use a bluetooth headset, i've not used it for much else today, do you think that this is acceptable???
-Steve
Hmmm mine will go for about 2 days with blue tooth enabled and if i hardly use it. Switch it on for any length of time and its a different story. I think the battery life really is poor.
I think its really good.
In standby mode i can use it for 3-4 days.
But if i use it roughtly (bluetooth, calling, SD-cardread, watching movies, playing MP3 etc..) it works for like 2-4 hours.
Mine has got better as it does with this type of battery (to a point) I get about 3-4 days between charges.
Pete
Mine can stay on for around 5-6 hours with the screen on running bluetooth for the phone headset and the gps and running tom tom all the time,
I have set the backlight to turn off after 2 minutes though, i found if the backlight is left on i get less than half this run time
i think that disabling grps and bluetooth and
making sure there are no running programs is the best way to
start if one wish to know the batt time
backlight should only matter if the device is turned on
I'm a bit heavy phone/pda user. Stock battery isn't acceptable. So I got myself a backpack and overall battery time is great! Almost double as compared to before...
Poch
pochreyes said:
I'm a bit heavy phone/pda user. Stock battery isn't acceptable. So I got myself a backpack and overall battery time is great! Almost double as compared to before...
Poch
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The size of your xda II is doubled too eh? :shock:
If you buy XCPUscalar you can adjust the processor speed. l find that reducing the speed increases battery life without a significant reduction in usability (in terms of speed). Check out http://www.immiersoft.com

Battery 1350 is enough??

My major concern is battery.
What do you think about this 1350 battery on this big, large screen... we will have the same problem of the diamond?? Will we reach to dinner??
Its a good question and one that will be difficult to answer until we get to use it, but if I had to guess I would say it will not be strong enough, but again it would depend on how you use the device. HSDPA and push email can really tax the battery add to that music and videos and of course web surfing and you would need a huge battery to last the day. I think with all these devices battery life will always be a problem.
its actually quite a easy question to answer, the HD will suck more power, it will drain a battery with "average" usage around two hours quicker than the Touch Pro, this by an large is due to the fact that the screen is around 30% larger, which obviously means that its backlight will be larger, the rest of the hardware is essentially the same, its going to suck.
Cracking phone i agree, but there is physically no way it will be better than a Pro, and will infact be significantly worse due to 30% more power usage on the screen alone.
extended battery will more than likely be a must, even if its just for emergencies
anyone know if its the SAME battery as the pro?
The PRO is Mah 1340...
dazza9075 said:
its actually quite a easy question to answer, the HD will suck more power, it will drain a battery with "average" usage around two hours quicker than the Touch Pro, this by an large is due to the fact that the screen is around 30% larger, which obviously means that its backlight will be larger, the rest of the hardware is essentially the same, its going to suck.
Cracking phone i agree, but there is physically no way it will be better than a Pro, and will infact be significantly worse due to 30% more power usage on the screen alone.
extended battery will more than likely be a must, even if its just for emergencies
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actually, noone can say that at the moment. the kind of battery used in a device doesn't say how long it will be able to operate (ofcourse, a more powerfull battery is always stronger). Software is very very importand. just look at the diamond. it has a better or equal battery than some other phones with same kind of specs. but still drains battery life like nothing.
improving the software can make a huge differents and it could even be possible that the battery life of the HD is better than that of the Touch pro.
Oh, before i forget. some german reviews allready stated, that the battery life seems to be quiet good and that they were pretty surprised when they found out that the screen light doesn't need much power.
the 1340 refers to the maximum amount of power available on one charge, in this case its the same as the touch pro, doesnt matter what type of battery it is, (although admitidly some batteries are designed for high current, some for low current high duration)
anyhow, the average current draw is specified by HTC, so yes software tweaks can helps this but its important to note that it wont be an average if you do, as features will be disabled or reduced in performance.
its also important to not that those stame tweaks that have helped the Pro would be the same tweaks used on teh HD since its essentially the same phone, but applying the tweaks to BOTH phones will still give you a significant difference against the HD, and that difference will be for the most part the increase in power consumption needed to power a 30% larger screen.
The only way the HD can be better than the Pro or equal at the very least is if it has a bigger battery
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the 1340 refers to the maximum amount of power available on one charge, in this case its the same as the touch pro, doesnt matter what type of battery it is, (although admitidly some batteries are designed for high current, some for low current high duration)
anyhow, the average current draw is specified by HTC, so yes software tweaks can helps this but its important to note that it wont be an average if you do, as features will be disabled or reduced in performance.
its also important to not that those stame tweaks that have helped the Pro would be the same tweaks used on teh HD since its essentially the same phone, but applying the tweaks to BOTH phones will still give you a significant difference against the HD, and that difference will be for the most part the increase in power consumption needed to power a 30% larger screen.
The only way the HD can be better than the Pro or equal at the very least is if it has a bigger battery
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Hmmm i'm not sure if you guys are missing the point. sure the display takes a good bit of power but its the processor thats the juicy bit. HTC have said that they have spent a fair amount of time tweaking the processor in the HD to make it more efficient. Sure its the same processor as the touch pro but different firmware software etc. Only time wil tell but its unlikely they're going to ruin a superb device by using underspec componants.
if they have changed the CPU then you maybe right, there is nothing to have stopped them i suppose, but i would still imagin that the back light is the most significant power drawing function bar some wireless connections that is.
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the 1340 refers to the maximum amount of power available on one charge, in this case its the same as the touch pro, doesnt matter what type of battery it is, (although admitidly some batteries are designed for high current, some for low current high duration)
anyhow, the average current draw is specified by HTC, so yes software tweaks can helps this but its important to note that it wont be an average if you do, as features will be disabled or reduced in performance.
its also important to not that those stame tweaks that have helped the Pro would be the same tweaks used on teh HD since its essentially the same phone, but applying the tweaks to BOTH phones will still give you a significant difference against the HD, and that difference will be for the most part the increase in power consumption needed to power a 30% larger screen.
The only way the HD can be better than the Pro or equal at the very least is if it has a bigger battery
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you are right, but on the other hand we don't know what changes have been made on the software. Like Touchflow3d beeing much faster than before, even if its the same specs. You cand take a 900 battery and it cann run longer than a 1340 battery if you do it right with the software. Ofcourse, we can compare the HD to the Diamond or the touch pro, as they have got the same OS and the same Interface. But tweaks in this siystem can reduce the power consumption allot, and i am not talking about thos tweak we, as users can do. The easiest way to find out will be to compare the standby times for example. when the display is off. Or when tweaks to the chips are made which enhace the battery life when connected to UMTS or other things. (such tweaks happpend to many phones, and sometimes meant an increase of around 50-60 percent of battery life!!) Its true that a bigger screen normaly means hiigher power consumption, but most of the power drained comes from the backlight. And even here you can do much.
I hope the things reviewers and testers said so far were right. like the backlight surprisingly using just a glimps of power and the good battery life. they also stated that HTC made improvements to their chipset and thats one of the reasons why its faster and even runs longer with UMTS than with GSM
Could be that its not, but i hope for the best.
ps: on the other hand, i have got an Lg Viewty here. It is a phone, which is said to have a pretty bad battery life, lasting for less than two days with normal usage, and less with heavy one. Strangely i get a battery life of around a week on normal usage and 3 days with heavy use. (normal means: checking mails at least 2 -3 times a day with HSDPA, doing quick surfing on the net and writing around 5 sms a day and answering call and so on..)

Battery

This may not be an answerable question but it doesn't cost a thing to ask.
I have a used Elf I bought a couple weeks ago. If it is functioning properly and battery is functioning properly what is best and worst battery life I might expect. I know there are a lot of variables, but I'd like a ball park estimate regardless of how your or my phone is set up.
What's the longest time between charge and the shortest you've experienced.
I am breaking in a new battery 18 hours is my best. And sometimes I can see the percentage charged actually drop.
Thanks
Depends on what you are doing with it. My HTC Touch Enhanced only lasts about 4 hours if i have WIFI and Phone on and am using it constantly to watch videos, play games or TomTom Sat Nav. But if its not being used and just has the phone on in standby them it goes for 4 days+ with a few calls or texts. I can often see the battery charge dropping before my eyes so dont worry to much.
In summary WiFi eats the battery and having the screen on and turned up bright takes away the charge very quick. If you just use it like a phone and stop playing with it you will find it will last longer than most mobiles.
Hope this helps
A big handycap of the touch is it's battery mine using wi-fi, tomtom, phone calls and sms last about a day but if i listen to music or watch a concert/video than it lasts about 8h i also must say that i had my elf overclocked and they say that it's battery life is dropping also due to this. I'm now trying something new and don't have my elf overclocked just to see what the batt. usage is...... Can anyone tell me where to buy an 2400ma battery for elf?? I can't use e-bay
It all depends on your usage really...if you use only the phone to make and receive calls that too on light usage....a fully charged battery should last at least 48 hours. But if you use the phone to stream media (youtube etc) or browse, or listen to music and you have extensive phone usage as well...be prepared to get a good ding in your battery life. Given this type of usage, your phone wont last more than 6-8 hours. Wifi and Bluetooth also drain battery big time.
Just a thank you
I appreciate you guys responding and hope more will jump in.
If I had to choose between the size and weight of the Elf and the a better battery life, I'd take the size and weight. Having said that, I moved from an HP RW6815 to the Elf and was really surprised by the battery life of the Elf. I guess I didn't do my due diligence .
Of the 3 main weakness of the Elf - battery life, cpu speed and memory - battery life appears to be the one that not overcomeable.
I read somewhere that battery technology really hasn't kept up.
It will take some management but I'll certainly continue to use the elf with pleasure.
2009 will be a great year because a new technology will be out offering battery charges up to 6400 mA! which is technically 5 times bigger then the current 1390 mA ones But i dont know if the new technology will be used to create those batterys especially for the "old" htc touch
At least i hope it!!!

Battery Lifetime

How does the battery behaves when compared with HTC HD and the original Diamond?
I found a good review article of the diamond2
"In terms of battery life the Diamond2 promises nearly double the amount of standby time over its predecessor. From my time using the Diamond2, starting with a full charge and with frequent use (web browsing/ music/ camera/ the excellent bubble burst game!), the next time the phone needed charging was five days later and even then this was more of a top up rather than the battery running on empty."
(http://www.mobiles.co.uk/htc-touch-diamond2-review.html)
i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
chris10230 said:
i cant quite beleive a 5 day battery life on this phone! if it is true then it will be awesome but it has a smaller battery 1100 mah against 1350 in my phone currently which i get about 1.5 days out of it.
So i will be reserved, and slightly pessimistic
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I would expect it to perform like your current phone (the HD, right?). smaller battery but smaller screen, so it should be about the same, and the htc provided data seems to be in line with that (about the same stand by, talk time and video talk time...)
So I think u are right to be pessimistic, but I also think that a higher capacity battery is possible with the same size as the 1100 mAh one: This TD2 battery is large, compared to the TD1 one: about 2 times as large, and TD1 was 900 mAh. Except if they are not of the same thickness, TD2 battery should have a higher capacity than just 1100 mAh...
I found nice shots comparing internals of TD1 and TD2, where we can see the 2 batteries
http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=7317
I do not know how TD2 battery compare size-wise to the HD, maybe you could post some pics of your battery? side by side shots of TD2, TD1 and HD batteries would be very nice, especial it we also have thickness shots anyone having acces to the 3 care to post those?
gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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gkai, no i dont have an hd, i wish i had one. I only have a polaris which is why i cannot understand the 5 day battery life as if my current phone does not last that long. I think that something that is more powerful, bigger screen and a smaller battery will last as long, i just dont, and also mine is stated to have a 400 hr standby time and the td2 only has 360 hours.
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hum, then it is possible: faster processor does not mean that it will drain battery faster: new generation are etched finer and use less power for same or more processing power. Screen can be (slightly) more efficient, and power saving of the different radio can be better too. But I expect the phone to be good for 1.5/2.5 days of typical usage, no more, given the current behavior of the HD, touch pro and touch diamond (which have almost exactly the same internal components)
So i will still be pessimistic and say that they had some wonderous phone to get it to last for 5 days! (or didnt touch it for about 3 days!)
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The second is more likely, I doubt htc has changed the battery for the review (although it is possible). Good cell coverage is also good for battery life, if u have a cell tower nearby your phone will get better standby and communication time, same for wifi. I guess they both were in ideal condition and used the phone lightly...
also the physical size of the battery does not actually matter the rating of the battery is what matters and that is smaller therefore a smaller battery. The td1 i think was always said to have a really bad battery life so hopefully htc have heard this and made the td2 better with a longer battery life, we can all live in hope
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
Bettery Life!
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
how to say i think that htc have finally sorted out battery problems and have made a phone with a good battery life. Seems like ive been told!
Juggles said:
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
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My standby time always more or less equals the device usage time, so 50/50. I keep playing with it all day At the end of the day it's at app. 50% charge.
Settings
MartyH32 said:
Hay there what settings are you using, ie HSDPA on? screen brightness settings auto or minimal? how are you using your device?
Yay a HTC phone with good battery surely it cant be so lol
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O have 3g on all day, as well as Exchange push mail, however i only get about 15 mails a day.
Screen is set to auto brightness. I have to admit i hate this rom, so am using it as a secondary device at the mo..
had it's first charge last night. Unplugged it at 7:30....now almost 11am.
it says
standby
2 hours 38 mins
talk time
0
Usage
1hour 28 minutes.
3 bars from the main power meter have already gone.
Brightness is set to auto and only recieve gprs from where i am at the moment.
I new it was too good to be true, look like there'll be a full charge tonight again.
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hum, yes, it is the rating that count...but given that all good batteries use the same technology (lithium-polymer), mAh rating should be in direct relation with physical size: a large battery with small rating just means that your battery is of an older generation (unlikely), or that there is a lot of dead material (plastic packaging) in your battery. So either the TD2 battery is much thinner than TD1, or it is likely that higher capacity batteries with the same physical size will surface quite soon on the accessory market (I hope for the second case, battery life under normal usage is one of the most important factor for me, it is convenient to have more than 1 day of "heavy" use per charge, and less than one day under "normal" use means the phone is poor for me, whatever its other qualities...)
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I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
trinode said:
I've never seen them use Li-Poly Batteries... The D2 Uses:-
Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1100 mAh
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yes, my mistake However, my point stand: battery capacity should be directly linked to its physical size and weight, given that the technology and materials used are the same (especially if you compare the batteries of a single manufacturer, like HTC). If not, it mean that the battery is not optimal and that a higher capacity battery battery of the same size is likely to come afterwards (from htc or other suppliers). That's why I was interested in the physical size of the TD2 battery compared to other devices...Well, with some luck I will know today, maybe a batch will arrive this afternoon in my favorite mobile shop and I will pick one ;-)
After the first full charge and unplugging in the morning, mine lasted until the evening.
about the same as my D1.
I don't have bluetooth or wifi on ever.
So to be honest, with average use....it's still ****
Good job i bought myself a AA battery emergency charger for it as well
Extend batterylife
Maybe not what we're looking for , but it's a way to extend batterylife:
Just underclock your TD2 or other HTC-device:
Look here and here...
FYI: Overclocking is not possible (yet )!
@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
Hey dude
CWKJ said:
@Juggles
Didn't expect to see you here, how's life? How's WmGurus?
So you have move to TD2.
How's it?
Good buy?
It's selling here from today in shops between SGD538 to SGD668. Maybe its a promo price.
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I love it to bits! You can check out my review on Tracy & Matts Blog, http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2009/04/24/htc-touch-diamond2-review
as for wmgurus.. it sort of died a death i think! LOL
Juggles said:
Hi Guys.. Wel 4 days in, and still on my first full charge!
According to the power screen, I have used
58 hours 25 minutes standby
Talktime 2 hours 22 minutes
device usage 3 hours 24 minutes
And stil have 4 bars left!
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How you've managed to achieve this I'd like to know. As currently I have 2 bars remaining and I have the following listed:
19 hours 1 minute standby
Talk time 0 hours 2 minutes
Device Usage: 3 hours 25 minutes
since my last charge at 23:25pm Yesterday. It's now 21:53. I have had WiFi and 3G on most of the day mind you!
7 DAYS on Standby within 1 full charge! (however without Sim Card in)

[Q] horrible battery life! anyone else?

Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
gravewormx said:
Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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What "theme" are you using?
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
dressanderc said:
What "theme" are you using?
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I'm using a black background and lime tiles...
XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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well, I been having it for a week now. I seen no difference in battery life. But imma give it another week or so. See if this works. Then I'm gonna try buying different battery. If that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to switch back to my Samsung Captivate. I would hate doing this, but this type of battery life is a deal breaker. Today, it was even worse! It lasted me only 9hrs while I was at work, which at least 8 of those hrs it was on stand by!
Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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yeah, I'm going to try this on my day off which is on Monday. Also gives me time to test out the other persons suggestion
thanks for your opinions. I'll get back to you guys and see what happens.
My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
acur8ly said:
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I don't use the Bluetooth at all. So this can't be the problem. but thanks anyways. (I might need this information since I was planing on using one in the near future).
So I notice that now, my Surround does get better battery life. (which is absolutely crazy! since now I have the screen brightness on medium and data turn on lol). I guess the battery just needed to be use and charge a bit more. However, I still think battery life could be improved. (hopefully, future updates will teak some system settings that will do this)
I have also decided that I will keep my Surround instead of going back to my Captivate I wish battery life would be better and the OS to be more "open" but truth be told, I fell in love with my phone haha Then when i went back to my Samsung Captivate, it felt weird. Android felt much slower.
So i gave it a little test; I launched messaging, email, music, browser, etc on both phones at the same time. Turns out both of them launch these native applications in the same amount of time.
I guess what makes WP7 fell smother and faster is the (eyecandy) transitions.
think its the battery
ya i have had mine for 2 weeks now and i think the problem is the fact that the battery is a 1230mAh, and we also have a samsung focus with a 1450mAh battery that will last an exra 2-3 hours longer which makes a huge difference! im hoping htc will make a larger mAh battery avaliable, mine will only last anywhere from 5-7 hours from normal use
I just ordered a Mugen 1300mah battery..not *much* more capacity, but hopefully it helps a bit!
if i dont use my surround (like not using too much 3g, wifi, music, gaming, and just normal phone calls and texts) it can last a whole day and probably a lil more, but when i do too much 3g/wifi/gaming/music it drains quickkkkkk.
and i do hope htc will have a larger capacity battery for the surround soon... 1230 is kinda small compare to other phones nowadays..
but still this has much better battery life than my previous phones (diamond2 and touchpro)
i just find myself carrying the usb cable and wall charger alot in my bag :]
and having a car charger is a plus also.
My girlfreind has had the phone since xmas. Initially the battery would lose its charge very quickly. I had her do a bump charge and just let the battery settle in. She can now go up a third day wothout the need for a charge with moderate txt.
Be aware the quick drop whenn taking it off the charger is NORMAL. Read this thread for a discussion of that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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Agree - Bad Battery Life - But not as bad as some....
Smart phones, in general, aren't what I would call great at conserving battery life under any condition. Pick any model of high-end smart phone and tell me who can get more than 2 days (using every trick in the book to eliminate unnecessary drain). Yes, this phone is under-powered in terms of only having a 1300 mAh battery when it should have a 1400 or 1500.
Cut the unnecessary stuff when you are not using it - Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
You can easily get a day + out of this phone with moderate/mixed use (some talking, some browsing, some multi-media viewing). That's pretty good, I'd say (from my relative experience across many different types of smart phones). I just plug it in every night.....pick it up in the morning and go. Haven't had any issues with it running out during the day.
Now, if you are starting first thing in the morning and running movies, have the bluetooth going, the WiFi on........well, heck yes, you are going to have a battery drain problem. If you want to run it that way.....just leave it plugged in.
Has anyone used a Seidio Innocell 1300mAh Replacement battery? Was wondering if it was worth the investment to improve the Surround's poor battery performance.
Thanks,
So...when is someone gonna step up to the plate and improve battery technology? It really sucks that these phone manufacturers are giving us ALL these fancy features that drain the battery and when we complain about having poor battery life they are telling us to not use all those fancy features...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a smartphone, am I right?
guys .. wake PLZ UP ))
1 ghz (1-2 core cpu ) ..
3.8 and more screen ..
DEDICATED GRAPHICS .
OS .
with DIRECTX9 Interface .
and that all spiced up with 1600 ma battery in best case .
and that you wana to run more then 6 hours on full load ? say THX TO MS .. for NON multitask os .. overwise battery life was even more lol then this
dgduris said:
My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
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I noticed this as well. As time went by the battery actually started to last longer. When i first got it i used it less than i do now and the battery would die before i even got home for work. Now it lasts till about an hour or so after i finish and get home.
does the surround use the same battery as the HTC desire HD?
Theres an ebay seller that is selling a surround battery and wall charger but the wall charger has a sticker that says: For HTC Desire HD

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