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Niki - Battery Life

What's kinds of battery life is everyone getting from the Niki ?
I
have tried three ROMS and three different Radios, and I barely get a full days use (low usage as well) on the battery is down to 30%.
I have GPRS on, but always auto disconnect after 1min, and check my email every 15mins.

I use a diferent battery , original battery has 1150 mAh and my new battery has 1400 mAh

and how much more performance do you get with your 1400 mAh battery?
also where did you buy it and how much?

sebastlim said:
and how much more performance do you get with your 1400 mAh battery?
also where did you buy it and how much?
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I think its a mid day more.
I bought the battery at eBay , 2 batterys aprox 13 €
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...o=CRX&its=S%2BI%2BSS&itu=ISS%2BUCI%2BSI&otn=4

My original battery lasts 2 days normal use without a problem.
Even with (for me) heavy use and 3G always connected (pushmail)
I get a full day usage.

does it stick out of the back of your device?

with push email 24/7 enabled and GPRS i not even get a full day out of it.
its awful!

excellent I get at least a couple of days use out of it . but when I visit my mother in law I get one day use . its all to do with the strength of the signal strong at home and work so lasts ages but weak at the mother in laws hence only 1 day use.
this is with push mail enabled.
Jeremy

creamhackered said:
does it stick out of the back of your device?
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No , only the 2400/2500 mAh stick out of the back of the device.

Largest Capacity with the same back cover
I found a 1400 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....gory=130787&ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST
Sems a good deal, anyone know of anything larger, without having the change the back cover ?

obsydian said:
I found a 1400 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....gory=130787&ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST
Sems a good deal, anyone know of anything larger, without having the change the back cover ?
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Is the same of my battery.
For the moment , without change back cover , is the max capacity.

Sedio makes 1500 mah, but they're total rip offs. 45 bucks. I bought my 2400mah on ebay for 10 dollars. hehe. It's huge I don't like it like this. But it gives me a full day of 3g. Today i'm trying GPRS only and a lot of usage

Is it the battery who's so weak or is it the phone that uses so much energy so you can use is for only 2 days?
I've already the 2400mah and going to buy the 1400 for more fun

remco18s said:
Is it the battery who's so weak or is it the phone that uses so much energy so you can use is for only 2 days?
I've already the 2400mah and going to buy the 1400 for more fun
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I want to return my 2400 and just get the 1400's. But I also realized that there are some apps that kill my battery, Jivetalk (Alpha with no battery conservation mode yet) totally reaks havoc on my battery. So I'm hoping that 300mah might make a difference .... I'm also thinking of keeping the 2400 for skype days

i flashed tom_codon's rom the other day, and after nearly 12 hours im @ 79% and that's with 3g enabled and emails checking every five minutes, texts, etc.
with my original htc branded rom i'd be at about 30-50% now :S

badaas said:
i flashed tom_codon's rom the other day, and after nearly 12 hours im @ 79% and that's with 3g enabled and emails checking every five minutes, texts, etc.
with my original htc branded rom i'd be at about 30-50% now :S
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Are you sure? Lol. I installed the same ROM and I left it on 3g, and it went down pretty quick . lol.

zkyevolved said:
Are you sure? Lol. I installed the same ROM and I left it on 3g, and it went down pretty quick . lol.
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yeah, positive. tho if signal strength is low it will drain battery quicker. i always have full bars where i am. i still haven't charged since my last post @6:01AM and i'm at 35% now, and that's with playing around with PointUI for a good couple of hours. deffo better battery for me. I don't use too many fancy apps though. just batterystatus, slideactions and HTC home + touchFlo, and always use 'X' tap to close apps and not leave them resident. maybe that helps

Battery

This may not be an answerable question but it doesn't cost a thing to ask.
I have a used Elf I bought a couple weeks ago. If it is functioning properly and battery is functioning properly what is best and worst battery life I might expect. I know there are a lot of variables, but I'd like a ball park estimate regardless of how your or my phone is set up.
What's the longest time between charge and the shortest you've experienced.
I am breaking in a new battery 18 hours is my best. And sometimes I can see the percentage charged actually drop.
Thanks

Depends on what you are doing with it. My HTC Touch Enhanced only lasts about 4 hours if i have WIFI and Phone on and am using it constantly to watch videos, play games or TomTom Sat Nav. But if its not being used and just has the phone on in standby them it goes for 4 days+ with a few calls or texts. I can often see the battery charge dropping before my eyes so dont worry to much.
In summary WiFi eats the battery and having the screen on and turned up bright takes away the charge very quick. If you just use it like a phone and stop playing with it you will find it will last longer than most mobiles.
Hope this helps

A big handycap of the touch is it's battery mine using wi-fi, tomtom, phone calls and sms last about a day but if i listen to music or watch a concert/video than it lasts about 8h i also must say that i had my elf overclocked and they say that it's battery life is dropping also due to this. I'm now trying something new and don't have my elf overclocked just to see what the batt. usage is...... Can anyone tell me where to buy an 2400ma battery for elf?? I can't use e-bay

It all depends on your usage really...if you use only the phone to make and receive calls that too on light usage....a fully charged battery should last at least 48 hours. But if you use the phone to stream media (youtube etc) or browse, or listen to music and you have extensive phone usage as well...be prepared to get a good ding in your battery life. Given this type of usage, your phone wont last more than 6-8 hours. Wifi and Bluetooth also drain battery big time.

Just a thank you
I appreciate you guys responding and hope more will jump in.
If I had to choose between the size and weight of the Elf and the a better battery life, I'd take the size and weight. Having said that, I moved from an HP RW6815 to the Elf and was really surprised by the battery life of the Elf. I guess I didn't do my due diligence .
Of the 3 main weakness of the Elf - battery life, cpu speed and memory - battery life appears to be the one that not overcomeable.
I read somewhere that battery technology really hasn't kept up.
It will take some management but I'll certainly continue to use the elf with pleasure.

2009 will be a great year because a new technology will be out offering battery charges up to 6400 mA! which is technically 5 times bigger then the current 1390 mA ones But i dont know if the new technology will be used to create those batterys especially for the "old" htc touch
At least i hope it!!!

Is My Battery Damaged??

I've got an issue and I'd like to know if anyone else is getting this. I've read the forum threads but I don't know what's considered "normal".
Well, simply put my battery power is pretty poor. With no GPS or push internet, my backlight on Auto, and “moderate” usage (8 hours standby, 90 mins on the phone and 3 hours “other” ranging from Internet to games to taking notes), my battery is almost wiped out! I can't get through the day!
This is a far cry from the specs on the HTC website (which claims up to 340 minutes’ talk time), and from reviews I’ve seen saying their phone lasted a few days without charging. Is this normal or do I need to get a battery replacement? My previous phone - an HTC Trinity - seems to have much longer-lasting power (beyond the simple difference in mAh).
I know, some people might consider the usage above to be "heavy" but as phones evolve to take on more and more functions, of course you're going to end up using those functions. I do have TF3D on (I know that appears to guzzle more power).
I am considering the 2200mAh battery but would prefer not to get it because of the thicker profile.
Comments or advice appreciated!
Thanks,
Wassim

Sounds pretty 'normal' to me.
Make sure you keep your phone on charge whenever possible as this will maximise the useable capacity when not being charged.

but as phones evolve to take on more and more functions, of course you're going to end up using those functions.
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You've summed it up - we use our phone with it's lovely screen much more than before.
3 hours “other” ranging from Internet to games to taking notes
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This is where the battery goes, Internet and Games!
When you leave your phone overnight with nothing running, no push internet etc, the battery should only go down, say, 3-4% at a guess, which would indicate the battery's OK. If extrapolated, this indicates a few days standby only usage.

That's fair enough Pete. I'll test that out.
HTC website says the phone should last up to 360 hours on standby. Therefore 8 hours should use up 2.2% of the battery, say 3-3.5% to account for inaccuracy in the battery readings.
Unfortunately my battery only reads in increments of 10%, how do I display the remaining power to the nearest 1%?
Thanks,
Wassim

There's loads of free alternative battery metering schemes, my own fave is "Batti", which puts a coloured bar full width across the top of the screen which shrinks as the charge goes down. If you touch the bar with stylus, you get a page with charge shown 0-100% in 1% increments. Batti's very configurable too.
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/batti.shtml

Unfortunately the duration life of your battery is normal for the stock one.
I have these performance for the battery:
- half day for an intensive use
- one day for a normal use
- one day and half for a low use.

luigug said:
Unfortunately the duration life of your battery is normal for the stock one.
I have these performance for the battery:
- half day for an intensive use
- one day for a normal use
- one day and half for a low use.
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I'll go with that, give or take...

LOL...you are actually having a better luck than I
I think I actually damaged my battery by left it in the car for too long =(

Ładowanie
14:22 19 lipca 2009
Standby: 16h 42m
Talk: 22m
Usage: 3h 33m
Ładowanie
20:23 22 lipca 2009
Standby: 11h 50m
Talk: 29m
Usage: 3h 45m
Ładowanie 2%
10:16 20 sierpnia 2009
Standby: 24h 55m
Talk: 1h 28m
Usage: 4h 4m

[Q] Conclusive way to determine battery degradation

Hi Guys,
Would you please go into Diagnosis, input *#2*#, go to page 2/3 and report your BatteryFullLifeTime here
BatteryFullLifeTime: 24489
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I am hoping that this may be a definitive way to determine if your battery has passed its useful life... My battery has certainly become overheated a couple of times (to the point where it is almost too hot to touch)... I find this occurs if I simultaneously charge the phone, make a phone call and say play a game all at hte same time...
Bonus points for any one with a brand new or extended life battery who can report what this number says.

illuzn said:
Hi Guys,
Would you please go into Diagnosis, input *#2*#, go to page 2/3 and report your here
I am hoping that this may be a definitive way to determine if your battery has passed its useful life... My battery has certainly become overheated a couple of times (to the point where it is almost too hot to touch)... I find this occurs if I simultaneously charge the phone, make a phone call and say play a game all at hte same time...
Bonus points for any one with a brand new or extended life battery who can report what this number says.
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Hi
My omnia7
BatteryFullLifeTime24000

My 3 months old Omnia7: BatteryFullLifeTime = 0

dormix said:
My 3 months old Omnia7: BatteryFullLifeTime = 0
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Is your battery fully charged? If so this may not be a reliable method after all...
Also make sure that you are reading "BatterFullLifeTime" and not "BackupBatteryFullLifeTime" - subtle difference I know.

mine says
BatteryLifeTime = 0
BatteryFullLifeTime = 0
no difference if my phone is on AC adapter, connected via USB to my notebook, or without any cable
cheers

25000 for me

Yes it is full charged and just BatteryFlag = 1, BatteryLifePercent = 100, Reserved1 = 10, BatteryChemistry = 4 and BatteryVoltage =+/-4120 values are different from 0

Now BatteryFullLifeTime is equal to 24489.

Does anyone have an extended battery? Does the extended battery show a longer lifetime?

My 1 month old Omnia 7 is showing bateryfulltime=0 at 36 % charged and the same when it's 100%, so it could be the recharge cycles value who knows

Mine fairly consistently hovers around the 24,000 to 25,000 mark.
Here's what MSDN has to say on the matter BatteryFullLifetime
The reported number of seconds of battery life available when the battery is fully charged, or -1 if the battery life is unknown.
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I'm not sure if this varies depending on how much you use the phone - but it seems there are at least 2 people with the same values as me.
For what its worth, when I have the phone plugged in on AC or at 100% battery life, it shows 0 - but after I let it drain down a bit (seems to be around 99%) it shows a value between 24,000 to 25,000.
Anyway, need more results to be conclusive.

9 months old, 24000

Battery Full time - 22580
Battery Percent - 31%
It's my secondary battery which I abuse quite a bit About 5 months old.

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9 months old, 24000
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battery is now at 6% and BatteryFullLifeTime is now 16666
when I posted before it was at 50%

I'd really like to know what everyone is getting for hours from last charge when they hit around 20% battery. I've bought a used Omnia 7 and it's consistently showing about 14 hours by the time I hit 20% battery left. Considering I have an Android HTC Desire HD with 1230mAh battery which lasts longer I'm wondering if this battery has had it and needs replacing. Surely it should last longer considering I'm using it roughly the same, less if you take into account that WinPho has no widgets.

Dyonas said:
I'd really like to know what everyone is getting for hours from last charge when they hit around 20% battery. I've bought a used Omnia 7 and it's consistently showing about 14 hours by the time I hit 20% battery left. Considering I have an Android HTC Desire HD with 1230mAh battery which lasts longer I'm wondering if this battery has had it and needs replacing. Surely it should last longer considering I'm using it roughly the same, less if you take into account that WinPho has no widgets.
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For what its worth. mine lasts around 1 day with moderate use (i.e. around 1 hour of phone calls and generally checking facebook etc every so often).
What does your batteryfulllifetime report out of interest?

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For what its worth. mine lasts around 1 day with moderate use (i.e. around 1 hour of phone calls and generally checking facebook etc every so often).
What does your batteryfulllifetime report out of interest?
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It's showing 0 like a few others have reported. I'm waiting for it to finish charging to see if it changes and will post back.

FYI, mine shows 0 when fully charged. After it drains to 99% then it shows between 24000 to 25000

24,489 after a little use. I had WiFi switched on and it said 12,000 which had me going :O until I remembered about WiFi being on lol I don't know what's causing the drain that makes it drop to 20% after only 14 hours or so.. if it was Android I could see which apps had been using most battery, is there anything similar in WinPho ?
OK now it's reading around 67% and saying 12,000~ I think this battery is screwed. I have a Twitter app, Facebore and SkyDrive that sync normally with AccuWeather too. I've sent maybe two texts and zero calls in the time it's been off charge (7 hours). Reading what others have said I'm getting screwed out of battery life even though it's reporting nearly 25k when fully charged. The game is afoot!

Mine purchased end of August, reports batteryfulllifetime=4109, batterylifetime=3000, batterylifepercent=73 with reserved1=10

WP8 Battery Life?

Hey guys I think this will be a great thread for people to post their battery usage results to let future adopters of windows phone 8 see what sort of battery life our devices are getting

I would like to know also... Can people post some real world experiences about the batterylife of their WP8 devices...
A fact also is that it will get better with updates as it is so new OS.

Got 18+ hours of battery each of the firstb2 days with my 920. Haven't run it dead though
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Got 18+ hours of battery each of the firstb2 days with my 920. Haven't run it dead though
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Awesome. How heavy was your usage? Did you use 3g, wifi and all of that or did you barely use the phone?

I have been studying battery use closely for my first 5 days with the 8X. There is definitely an idle drain issue. Compared to a One S (same basic hardware, smaller battery) the idle drain is at least 3 times higher, if not 5 times higher. In 7 hours overnight, my 8X loses around 15% of battery. This is with one email account set to sync every 15 mins and one set to sync every hour. Obviously there is no screen time or anything else to worry about and the signal where I live shows as 3-4 bars (out of five).
Having said this, the in-use battery life seems decent. Certainly the screen is a real hog, but a normal working day (about 10 hours of mixed usage) for me so far drains about 40-45% battery. This is worse than other devices, but not too bad for me and it will improve - I find it takes around 1-2 weeks for battery life to settle.
By way of comparison, I used to have a Lumia 900 which would use around 35% in a working day for me and I have a RAZR i Android phone which uses around 25% (yes, 25%).
My guess is that there are a couple of things going on here. Firstly, there is a large idle drain issue. This should be easily fixed in software. Secondly, I suspect the baseband is not too efficient so a weaker network signal really causes a heavy drain, again this is probably fixable in software. I suspect that WP8 is not as efficient as WP7.5 in general, again, easily fixed in software. Basically, we need a software update or two.

My HTC 8X eats up battery really fast.
With light usage im down to 5% after about a day.
With heavy usage, 1hr browsing and about 50 texts i go from 100% to 10% in about 6-7 hours.
About the same as my 2yr old Omnia 7

I'm glad these issues are being brought to light as very little is being mentioned about battery life at the moment. As the Jones has said it can be fixed with software updates. 1800mah and a 4.3 slcd2 hd display should be a decent enough combination to get a good day of usage with minimal drain. The One X has exactly the same size battery and the screen is half an inch bigger. The One X has a fairly decent battery life so there is no way that the drain is down to hardware. Funnily enough my current phone is the One S and my battery life is fantastic. When I'm not using my phone the drain is virtually non existent. I hope they fix this battery drain issue and I hope it's soon. The lumia 920 has the same issue so it's definitely WP8 and not the phones. When more people get windows phone 8 devices by the end of the month I think the issue will come to light. So you guys with the 8X would you recommend it? I'm considering selling it and my one s so I can buy an HTC One X+ I'm not sure though. I haven't recieved my 8X yet but If the battery drain is that bad and the phone isn't great than I'm probably better off selling it before I even open it so I get the maximum amount of money. I really hope it's a good phone so your opinions will be really important to me.

The battery life on the Nokia 920 is awesome with a capital A. There seems to be no idle drain to speak of. Best battery of any phone I've had and I've had the galaxy s2, the note 1 and note 2. Very happy with it. Got 19 hours the first full charge with moderate to heavy usage.
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The battery life on the Nokia 920 is awesome with a capital A. There seems to be no idle drain to speak of. Best battery of any phone I've had and I've had the galaxy s2, the note 1 and note 2. Very happy with it. Got 19 hours the first full charge with moderate to heavy usage.
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That's very interesting actually. There are mixed reports on the Lumia 920 as well as the 8X on battery life. You're the first person I've seen that's said the battery is fantastic for any of the wp8 phones. I'm so confused wether it's worth me even opening my 8X when I get it or selling it straight away. Guess I'll have to wait and see if they bring an update to fix the battery drain.

I have had the 820 for a single day, after full charge I used about 55% in 10 hours. Half hour gaming, hour or so of music and 2 push email accounts. Pretty heavy Facebook and twitter.
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Battery life so far seems about average, I get between 16-24 hours per day with moderate usage. Just depends on whether I'm using wifi or LTE. Lumia 920

This is a hard one to answer, Out of the box the phones eats power like a monster. I had to charge 2 times in the day then again over night on my first day. So I decided this was not going to do and turned off a few things and put the screen to auto. Now I get a good days use. The facebook app is a real drain unless you turn off notifications. That said this is then in a way crippling the phone. I guess they just turn it up to the max to look good when you first open the box etc. Also note you get nothing like the storage ie I have lost almost 6gb before putting anything on my device. Might watch the battery issues and if they are still bad see if I can trade in for a lumia 920.

I have a Lumia 920. Saturday and Sunday, it did great on battery life. Yesterday and today at work, it's been about like my 2-year old Focus - eats up the battery if I'm at my desk. Signal is very weak inside the building here and it's cutting in/out and frequently searching, so I attribute it to that. (I was hoping LTE would penetrate better into my office, but it doesn't seem to so far). The phone does seem to do well so far on battery life when I'm in an area where it just has a good strong signal and isn't searching all the time though.

First day after a full charge and I'm down to 33% after about 7 hours. I'd say moderate to maybe heavy use. I wish there was a battery usage section like android has.
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This is a hard discussion to get any useful comparison information between devices, I don't know what one person may call "light", "moderate" or "heavy" use means and how that compares to how I would use those words. Hopefully one of the bloggers will do a controlled study between the different WP8 devices. As for me, I'm using the HTC 8X. It's now 1:40 p.m., my phone came off the overnight charge at about 6:30 a.m., I'm at 73% battery life. I had 1 incoming call I don't know if I even picked it up or how long it lasted (does WP8 give me length of call data anywhere?), a bunch of texting, read a fair number of Outlook emails, looked at FB, looked at weather, running Wi-Fi and bluetooth, and updated some apps.
How would you rate that battery?

i got my lumia 920 yesterday, and the battery life is okay. my Samsung galaxy S 2 with 2100 mAh battery has a better performance but its still k.
With normal usage i run about 8 houers.

I have turn off location service on my Lumia 920 and I have 60% battery after 13 hours, yesterday with same use but location turned on I just had 15%...
Hope this helps
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I have turn off location service on my Lumia 920 and I have 60% battery after 13 hours, yesterday with same use but location turned on I just had 15%...
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how you make it man ? Are u always connected with the mobile data ? Do u use your phone for music and text messages ?

Just go to settings and disable location. I use my phone for email 6 accounts. Web browsing and some games
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iosub said:
Just go to settings and disable location. I use my phone for email 6 accounts. Web browsing and some games
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me just using for mail an reading news.. thats is it... but i cant heat ner the 60% area.
and i turned it of. do u use your facebook account ? maybe its that whats taking lot of energy