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Opera 8.6, how's it working for you?

I'm wondering what the experience has been for people using Opera 8.6. I installed the free beta version months ago, which is working, and I'm wondering if it is worth it to buy the latest retail version.
Any Opera users care to comment on their experience?

Generally I find this a good browser but there a few problems which I must mention:-
1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
2) For large web pages with graphics and annimations vertical scrolling becomes really painful as the page does not scroll smoothly with the vertical bar. This gets really really annoying at times.
3) There is a slight lag between pressing of a link and the browser responding. You tend to press the link repeatedly thinking the browser has not responded and then it hangs. However this is something you soon get used to so not that much of a problem.
4) Quite often it does not load the page fully and gets stuck towards the last bits of the page. This is more so for pages with annimations. The progress bar gets stuck when the page has almost been downloaded and only a small percent is left. You then have to refresh the page and usually the 2nd attempt gets you through the full page.
4) The worst problem for me which has really limited its use is that once you have used this it stops some other programs to start and you have to soft-reset. Typical examples are Netfront, Planmaker and Textmaker. After using Opera and having killed it these programs will often not start without a soft-reset.
As I said at the start it is still a good browser and so I am not mentioning the good things but these are just the glitches which seriously mar the user experience of an otherwise good product. In fact though I have a registered version I find myself using it less and less and prefering Netfront over it simply of some of the annoying bugs I mention.
Regards

I agree with smrz completely, and have suffered from the issues outlined, but I'd like to add:
- Opera 8.6 can't handle some pages very well (I'm thinking of the Yahoo pages where you need to log in). It just doesn't render them in any sort of useable fashion.
Having said this, I still use it as my main browser, and find that in combination with PIE, then I can do pretty much everything I want on the web.
Cheers,
Steve.

are there any differences between the beta version and the retail version?

1) One cannot configure it to store its Cache to SD card. There are ways around this but nothing out of the box.
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Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
Open opera.ini file, go to [User Prefs]. At the end of that paragraph, write that ligne
Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\x with x the folder you choosed for cache on your SD.
For french roms, Storage Card must be replaced by Carte de Stockage
Opera is not perfect, but is largely better than other mobile browers...

Thanks for the input. I'm not sure I will pay for the retail version at this point.
Re: the difference between beta version and latest retail version, I'm sure there are many and would depend on the beta version. Main one that comes to mind is that I understand the retail version has a tabbed browser interface while my old beta version does not.
I wonder if Opera mobile will ever support Java?

opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?

Where do we copy the opera.dll
I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?

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I am running a trial version. Have the cracked opera.dll file. Where do I copy this to in order to prevent the 30 days to run up?
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Here's an idea: how about *paying* for it? I mean, it's only $24 or about 2% the RRP of an HTC Universal. Don't try to kid yourself that circumventing anti-piracy measures is anything other than stealing. If you use a cracked copy, you are a theif.

I agree I always buy software. I have 50+ apps on my IIs and all are paid for you, shouldn't try and steal money from hard working developers who are trying to make a living.

I am finding Opera 8.60 retail to be AWESOME!
In fact, I ditched the JasJar some months ago and have been using a JAM for some time. I only bought a new JJ cos of Opera on VGA. It's rendering most pages such as my online banking (which PIE cocked up completely), it zooms perfectly, and it's just amazing! If WM5 had come out with a decent broser on day one it would have driven operator ARPU's and internet usage. Now I have google with me wherever I go. I kind of had it on my JAM, but not really with that crappy low res screen.
This is a no brainer app and worth every cent!

Piracy
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...

bbaytu said:
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around. It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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yust for info...8.6(with the bug correction version 8.6u1) is the last and the only opera for ppc version ever done. Version 9 is for PC...if I'm wrong excuse me and tell me were you find the ver 9 for ppc...
Regards
Massimo

bbaytu said:
Nice thinking and have no objection. But if you got something for the first time you simply dont go about splashing money around.
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I'm using Opera on the trial. 30 days is plenty of time to make your mind up. If you don't really use it enough to make up your mind in that time, then don't buy it. If you do, buy it. $24 really is next to nothing for a product. That wouldn't a decent sandwich, cake and a cup of tea!
It is only fare that I want to make use of it, see & decide. If you check 8.6 is not the latest version it is an old version. By paying I would now be getting v9 (see I checked it and am planning to) but need to see if it is what I need / want.
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They provide a trial for that purpose. If they didn't, I still wouldn't agree. Afterall, I can't try out a holiday before I buy it and if I don't like the terms, I can simple boycott the product.
Stereotyping aint really good. Peace anyway....
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I'd hardly call it stereotyping. Stereotyping is painting a group with a broad brush and, in doing so, encompassing more than rightfully fit the description. However, calling all pirates theives is not stereotyping as all piracy is theft.
PS: Besides doing this kind of stuff is always the best way of learning the logic, structure of how a device works. And that is my main interest in these stuff. Not getting all for free. Thanks for your comments anyway...
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I know I'm on a very high horse here, but I cannot and will not tolerate piracy. It *does* hurt people (developers, distributers, support staff, everyone in the chain and their families) and they only reason why it's not as widely regarded as wrong is because everyone knows they will more than likely get away with it. Steal Opera is no better than stealing a wallet or an item of jewellery or anything else. It's ALL theft.

I'm using an early beta that does not have the 30 day limit.
Am I stealing?
The reason I posted the question is because I am not averse to paying for a good finished product. It seems craigiecraig4 (if I have the name spelled right) would say that Opera 8.6 is a good finished product.
That is the type of opinion I was soliciting.

I think anyone who has a beta version of software on there device have in a way paid for it because they put there device on the line to test the product.

xda_guy said:
opera 8.5/8.6 does not support java & javascript?
what about vbscript?
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It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.

bonisalive said:
Here a post I wrote on moving cache of Opera on SD card...
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&cat=101&id=5514
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An English tutorial is at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=916&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Menneisyys said:
It does support JS but doesn't support Java.
ALL: Please DO read my web browser reviews. The vast majority of the questions asked in this thread have already been answered / explained in there.
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Dude - your articles are GREAT! Going thro many of your past posts now...keep it up!

Revue from Smith Micro Software Incredible

Hi!
I have just seen this amazing program.
http://www.smithmicro.com/default.tpl?group=product_full&sku=QLMCWXX
To see photo, video and play music.
Bad news, we have to pay if we want to see it.
I am searching but...no free?
Do you like??
I want it!! free, of course.

$30? LOL
I'll wait until someone on this site codes a clone for free.
Nice stuff though.... but not nice enough to shell out $30.

well, you should brake into a car or someone's house and steal their phones. maybe someone has it on their device....
...so stupid.

E_Shinobi said:
well, you should brake into a car or someone's house and steal their phones. maybe someone has it on their device....
...so stupid.
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It is pretty stupid that they don't offer a free trial download to try it out. I'm definitely not going to pay $30 for something that I don't even know what it's like. No thank you.

frenchglen said:
It is pretty stupid that they don't offer a free trial download to try it out. I'm definitely not going to pay $30 for something that I don't even know what it's like. No thank you.
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Maybe its because they don't want people to rip off their product without paying for it.
WB

i don't know about this "revue software" and the description of what it does is not very clear to me, but i have tested another tool that does the same thing (i suppose. i'm french so my english is not perfect) named trakax on a htc vox and it seemed fairly good for a slow device (200 cpu) and non-tactile.
it should be very cool on a decent pdaphone with good cpu.
go here : http://www.trakax.com/software/mobile/
it costs 30 again, but you have a free demo to test it.

wacky.banana said:
Maybe its because they don't want people to rip off their product without paying for it.
WB
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How are they going to do business that way?...maybe they'll fix it up after requests come in

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How are they going to do business that way?...maybe they'll fix it up after requests come in
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I agree, it may be difficult, but when you see someone asking for a copy of a retail piece of software on here, insisting they have it for free, (as if that's a right), then find a near identical request on a warez site asking for the crack for the same software, its not difficult to see where that activity would lead to if we all took that stance.
WB

I don't have a problem paying for the apps that we use on our devices and i'm willing to pay a whole helluva' lot more but we should @ least have the trial option to see if it's worth it or even if its compatible with our devices. Most developers give you that trial because they stand by their product and they know it'll sell itself once the word gets out, so maybe them not giving a trial offer says something about their product. Just my opinion.

I've done trials of and loved:
Resco Exlorer
Memmaid
AEButton
Ultimate Launcher
Vito Screen Capture
Phone Weaver
...And paid for:
Resco
Memaid
AEButton
UL
Vito
Phone Weaver
It wouldn't even occur to me to use a cracked copy. Weird since I've used warez for some windows PC software, but being on a forum like this you see how the programmers are good people, just like me (only smarter) and it puts a face to the theft and I wouldn't consider doing it. Now I don't do cracked stuff for PC software either. I guess its part of growing up.
Anyway, I think there are a lot of ppl like me that if they like a trial they will be HAPPY to buy it.

I have just found this video!
Hi
I found a video of Revue.
It seems to be fantastic even with an application to manage the files with the PC!
http://my.smithmicro.com/wireless/revue/Revue324_121807_OffLn.wmv
I want to test this program for my HTC Touch, but I can´t download it from anywhere.
Anyone has this program?
Can you tell me if it is fast and useful?
Anyone knows where can I download Revue?
Thank YOU ALL

I just took a quick glance at the site you listed and looks like something I used to use on my Palm, I think you can use this for free, don't completely remember, but know I never paid for it. I remember now, you have to keep your pc online and you can access it for free, think that was the deal, and you had to pay to store your files online to access them while your pc was offline.
Anyway to the point its Avvenu, check it out.
Log Me In may be the same.

Caragato!!
Please NOT SPAM HERE!!!

So is this basically streaming media from your computer but with lots of organization options?
How is it not like Orb?

It is a finger friendly software just like iphone to see media on our pocketpc.

Can some one build an app for me? $$GOOD REWARD$$

Hello.
I have a week to present my homework, an app for WM5/WM6.
Description:
Two screens.
Screen one: a Calendar showing one month and arrows to move to other months. And a button to take you to screen two.
Scrren two: a list of whatever (let say, accesories for X7501 currently on stock) that feeds of a DB. And a button to go back to screen one.
So basically is creating a DB (item, stock) and a calendar.
I would need you to give me:
1. The code with commentaries (*/this is the button to change month*/ etc).
2. Your paypal account
Who can do it? For how much?
Thanks!

dude that is so cheating. why you gonna pick building an app for wm if you dont even know how to build one.

Hello.
1. The teacher was not supposed to ask that of us.
2. I know how to make an app, but not that one. I can make basic stuff, like coin toss, dice roll, among other stuff. I could learn to program that, but I do not have time, I sleep like 4 hours a day... learning to do that would mean 10 hours.... I don't have 10 hours.
3. I'm not going to live by making apps for WM.
4. Somebody could use some extra dollars. And some might even enjoy building that.
I don't think it's such a bad Idea.
Well.... once again, any one can help me with that simple app?
Regards.

Maybe you should've started this a lot longer before the deadline? I can't really poke holes given that I had to do a 3 minute composition (for my music GCSE) in one night...
1. The teacher was not supposed to ask that of us.
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Then argue with them and point out they can't set work like that?
2. I know how to make an app, but not that one. I can make basic stuff, like coin toss, dice roll, among other stuff. I could learn to program that, but I do not have time, I sleep like 4 hours a day... learning to do that would mean 10 hours.... I don't have 10 hours.
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My first point is echoed... Maybe there is a reason for this work such as qualifications?
3. I'm not going to live by making apps for WM.
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Then why did you choose to do whatever it is that this needs to be done for?
4. Somebody could use some extra dollars. And some might even enjoy building that.
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I would do it, but it goes against the principal of exams/qualifications, and I couldn't anyway...

l3v5y:
It was set on wednesday 16.
And I have until monday 28th...
There's no "lot longer before deadline". If there is, it is now, we have time.
I'm not going to argue the other 4 points.
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All:
I'm asking for help, and expecting replies about "I can help" or "here's this links that will help" or a Private Message with something along those lines.
I know you can reply with "that's wrong", but could you please not obstaculize?
And could you please not reply with "it's better for you to learn" because it's not and you do not particularly care about me learning to build a DB or a calendar.
And it's not like I'm a greedy student who offers $5 or $10 USD. It's a job and it's better paid.
Once again.... anyone that might be kind enough to help?
Regards.

I'm curious as to how much you're willing to pay. A low-level code monkey can probably get $20/hr. You're better off looking at how tene implemented PCM calendar (or similar).
huh? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obstaculize

Sorry, English is not my first language.... I meant something like "not-help", not as much as deter, restrain, discourage... just like being an obstacale...
I'll prefer to let the programmer set the price for the job done, not by the hour of course... and then we'll talk about it.
But probably it will be way more than $20 per hour of real efficient work.

Go download eMbedded Visual Basic from the MS Website:
Not that I want to discourage developers getting money, but the fact is, the two things you are discussing (Forms and calendar) are already available as code samples in eMbedded Visual Basic. Most, if not all developers know this...
So basically, if your teacher doesn't understand that making this project is as simple as writing your own name, than it won't matter whether you cheat or not. Besides, you will still have to make the program yourself, even with the two code samples.
The calendar is called DateTimePicker
And from memory, the page sample is just called Form

Hope This Helps
This is just a Test to show you what i have made..if this is the kinda stuff you want..send me the details for the About page
NOTE : This requires Internet Connection to be activated before Starting the application
See attached

Jadel:
Well now there's some help. It actually got me started with the calendar and the app itself.
You can watch progress here http://www.tech-medellin.com/TempUploads/advance.wmv
Ather90:
And that's even better. More like I was hoping for, unfortunately I lost hope with first replies and started myself.
Any way, perhaps you could help me with accesories. I've watched what you did and it's great, but not what I'm looking for... although I could add it...
The teacher asked for a database stored in the app (not updatable nor modificable by user). A list must be created based on the DB. I would fill it with data (I actually sell devices and accesories)
Can you help with that? For how much?
Thanks!

im sorry but i dnt know a thing abt Databases
I will give you the source code..its coded in VS 2008 Pro

You can get some info abt Db here http://www.codeproject.com/KB/database/

Thanks a lot!
I have almost finished my app.
Actually two of them I had forgotten there was a second one.
(sorry for not replaying until today)

Happy to hear it's alsmost done
Sorry I dnt know anythng about programming PPC.
medellinrob said:
Thanks a lot!
I have almost finished my app.
Actually two of them I had forgotten there was a second one.
(sorry for not replaying until today)
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no probz..thnx to ur home work i actually learnt DB
well not completely..but i can import data from access
hope u get good marks

Beat Making App?

Looking for something like Fruity Loops/FL Studio. Thanks.

As a producer I'd love something similar! It would be more important for me to be able to notate melodies that would later be exportable (MIDI?) when I get back to my PC. Any ideas?

Aurora
I ran into this program lately, I think it's the best thing I could find so far.
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=125
I hope this is what you are looking for

FuzzFuzz said:
I ran into this program lately, I think it's the best thing I could find so far.
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=125
I hope this is what you are looking for
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looks nice. but 45 bucks
thanks.

Can this be something? http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/index.php
I havn´t tried it myself so don´t know if its good.

The best I found is something called pocket griff. Cost me like $15 USD. Wish I had the site on hand but I'm posting from Skyfire atm. Runs relatively slow but the most extensive I found so far. I'm gonna try those others right after this post.

none of the apps above have worked for me but i found this. very basic.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-tonebox.html

yup, i need that.

I saw something called Syntrax a while back, though I'm not sure if it would work on a WVGA device. It's quite comprehensive and completely free, but you need a handango account to download it (though I'm sure some googling would reveal some mirrors).

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I saw something called Syntrax a while back, though I'm not sure if it would work on a WVGA device. It's quite comprehensive and completely free, but you need a handango account to download it (though I'm sure some googling would reveal some mirrors).
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found it. works ok but still trying to figure it out. thanks.
rename to .rar

Sony Location Free Player

I started a thread a few months ago concerning a proprietary video player that Sony used for their Location Free Player devices. Well...
The software code has now been moved to open source status and is free for full linux development. I'm hoping I can convince one of you savvy developers to whip up the player so it can run on either Android or a full linux OS (I use Ubuntu). I'm sure it's a gold mine for tons of other video streaming applications that could potentially run on our devices.
The link to the open source code can be found here along with other Sony open projects.
http://products.sel.sony.com/opensource/
Location Free TV is the program I'm specifically talking about. I believe the current version is LFA-PC30. If you would like to read more on this device/player you can check the wiki at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LocationFree_Player
Let me know if anyone has any questions, I very eager to see if this is possible. If I could stream video from my Location Free Player Base I to either my android device or Ubuntu Netbook I would be very very pleased. If a dev is serious I would be more than happy to have them test on my base station. PM or email me if you're interested!
Also, please move to the correct thread if this is in the incorrect area.

agreed!
I too would love to see more on this, my locationfree box could get so much more use.

So a sony base unit (hardware) is needed to try this right

If someone is working on this, and needs a connection to a base station to test ( I have the last version that came out LF-V30 ) message me and I'll send you the adress to connect to my station and the password

Would
Love to see this on Android. This would give new life to my Location Free Box. If not then I may have to move to Sling Player although I would like to stay with Sony.

eighty82 said:
Love to see this on Android. This would give new life to my Location Free Box. If not then I may have to move to Sling Player although I would like to stay with Sony.
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$200 for a base sling box and Android software.
Please devs, work your magic!!

$25 bounty to the one who makes a working Location Free Android app.

Anyone still working on this?

bumpitty bump bump bumpitty bump

Bump! Sony LocationFree for Android!!!!! this is never gonna happen.

Anyone out there....?

Darn just when I thought google led me home lol.

So anybody working on this I to would love to see this.
I would love to see this on Android, IOS, WebOS, Windows Phone and A better Verion for Windows Mobile PLS PLS PLS

Hello, Bumping the thread once more, there are plenty of Location free devices out there for people to purchase an paid app from the android store.
Please compile an app from the source code link that OP provided. I am looking forward to it.

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Hello, Bumping the thread once more, there are plenty of Location free devices out there for people to purchase an paid app from the android store.
Please compile an app from the source code link that OP provided. I am looking forward to it.
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Still no takers? :-(

I'd pay for a working app as well..
It will probably never happen but figured I would put my 2cents in as well..

echardcore said:
Bump! Sony LocationFree for Android!!!!! this is never gonna happen.
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Yes it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477821

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Yes it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477821
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Thank you for your efforts. Very happy with this development.

Holy crap! I don't believe it! Can't wait to get home to register my base with my phone. If it works, will donate for sure! Thanks mgschwan!!!
EDIT: Installed and working great on my HD2!! Donated!! WOOHOO!