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do you use a screenprotector?

Do you use a screenprotector on your trinity? I do, one from Brando, but I don't like it and am thinking about removing it...
Is anyones screen already damaged?

Is it possible to put it perfectly at all ?! I mean I must be in a totaly sterile envoirement with gloves and special suit and God knows how and what skill I must have to put it right
My Trinity is one day old but I will surely remove it in a couple of days, can't look at it with this ugly bubbles beneath

The first thing I do when I get any new device is get a screen protector for it, and it goes on before I ever start using the device. I've gone through a lot of PDA's over time and one thing I can say is that you get better at putting on the protectors and you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
The best way to put the protector on is to carefully peel just a bit of one edge and line it up at the top of the screen. Then use the included card to slide the rest down the screen, the paper backing will peel off as you do this and it helps to prevent bubbles and dust getting on the stick side of the film.

If you don't like bubbles, try a brand that is not adhesive. Most people don't like the type that slips under the case but I do. I've been using NuShield protectors for a couple of years on 4 different PDAs and they are great IMO. I don't use a case (store in pocket) and NuShields are very durable - easily lasting 6 mo.

I'm using a brando ultraclear for K-Jam in my p3600... it works perfect... I haven't any sort of bubbles because i put it the first day i got my new device.. so device under it was very clean and the result is PERFECT

shoey5 said:
...you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
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Completely agree!

I'm using Covertec Screenprotector(for S100), and it works like hell!
The screenprotector is about 1-1,5 mm thick, so it's pretty thick compared to many other brands, but the advantage is that it's almost impossible to get airbubbles, and the screenprotector is 110% clear! So you won't even see it's there!
Comes in a pack with two protectors, one with UV-filter, and one which is ultra-clear...
Can highly recomend them... No need for a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy"

1.5mm thick?!?!?! That's thicker than a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy". I have wetsuites that thick. You talking about a case or a screen protector?
LOL
No offense - just having fun. Some are actually quite thick in comparison.

Hehe! Well, ok; maybe it's a bit thinner... But it's about the thickness of a playing card, and just as stiff as one too...
And no, it's not a casing, or a wetsuit... Maybe a drysuit haha!

I use protector, but got 2 bubbles which I want to try to remove.
Can anyone tell me how to remove the protector without using anything thin and sharp?
Asbjørn

Tape. Take a 1-2 inch long piece of tape and press one end on a corner of the protector. Then pull

I can't get my screenprotector removed...not even with tape

Hate screen protectors. Don't use them. My nephew has a Jam which is years old and hasn't had a protector. NO screen scratches -- only a little dullness where the SIP keyboard is but that buffs out in seconds once a year using Displex. No scratches from keys even though it's subject to some abuse and the casing is scratched and dented. Thus I myself have no crap on my P3600's screen.

Im not a fan of cases or screen protectors, but I got 1 for my p3600. Its pretty good, I just wish it was about 2mm wider, since the left edge doesnt quite go till the very end of the screen which is annoying.

I got my screen protector from 'Javoedge.com' , it cost me about £8.50 but it is worth every penny.
It is cut to the exact size of the Trinity screen and fits really well. It is so thin that it slides beneath the White plastic case of my Trinity and the screen itself, so there are no edges of the screen protector to be seen.
I agree that you must take your time when installing it to try and get the edges straight, but when it's on it fits and looks great.
I opted for the super clear version and not the anti-glare version.
Great product!

Invisible shield from ShieldZone.com
I'm using an "Invisible Shield" from ShieldZone.com for my P3600. At the time I got mine, it didn't exist any pre-cut version for the P3600, so I ended up with a pre-cut TyTN shield, since they have the same screen size.
The first 2-3 days the result wasn't that good as I had some bubbles under the shield, but they disappeared after some days.
Watch the demo videos on ShieldZone.com, and I guess you will be as impressed as I'm with this shield.
-Bjørn

Hi people.
I am soon gonna be a happy owner of a Trinity and i will definately buy a screen protector for my device. Can you please give me your opinion on different brands you have tried?What brand would you recommend buying?
Thanks

I have a Brando one that they now market as a P3600 version.
It sticks to the screen with static so no glue or residue if you remove it. Also this means it is washable too. The static provides more than enough force to keep it on the screen. In fact it is stuck fast. Only by pulling a piece of tape stuck to it by both ends will remove it.
My only problem is more with screenprotectors in general. Since they add extra thickness to the screen they do affect the sensitivity of the touchscreen. So for a while you will write with the stylus and you wont be using enough force. You get used to it, but it would still be nicer to find a thinner membrane.

Mine is a Clear Touch Crystal from Boxwave. I've used Boxwave's products for years and found them to have very high durability and quality. The screen looks like it has nothing on it at all when the device is on. I find that it actually seems to improve touchscreen accuracy and feel.
The only problem I have had with screen protectors in general is that if they are cut too close to the borders of the screen, that is, if they fit too well, they seem to interfere with the screen's ability to detect taps. I think it is interfering with the digitizer. Every time I have installed a protector PERFECTLY leaving no gaps on any side, the screen stops responding until I remove the protector and reinstall it with the edges trimmed in about 1 mm on all sides. I don't think that you need to have all edges trimmed, but I do it for uniformity's sake.
Hope this helps someone who gets a protector and then thinks they broke their device by installing it like I did my first time.......ahhh to be young again.....

@olsenbjo
Does the Invisible Sheild cover the entire device, or just the screen?
Thanks!

Invisibleshield - Does it affect touchscreenability?

Hi,
I searched but did not get any useful results.
This is about the invisibleshield.
I would like to ask anyone using the invisibleshield, if their screen protector is
1. made of the same material as what is used for the rest of the full body shield,
and also, from my experience with the invisibleshield for iPod, I noticed that it was rather sticky or clingy meaning that it was more of a slightly rubbery than plasticy texture that is found on most common, generic screen protectors. My question is: Will this affect the touchscreenability of the Tilt, meaning that
2. am I able to move my stylus over the screen easily without it being all squeakily resistant to my stylus inputs
3. and if I am able to move my finger across the screen for TouchFlo
4. and finally if using the invisibleshield will somehow make the screen less sensitive as compared to as if I were to use the generic "plastic" screen protector.
Thanks in advance!

Is 'touchscreenability' a real word?

No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.

No, I made it up. It sounds nice though.
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There seems to be an abundance of creating new words on this site. lol.
I prefer the made up word 'touchscreeniness' though
Sorry for nitpicking
I don't have an answer for your query yet, I am yet to purchase the invisible shield. I will probably do so sometime next week.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes, but I personally doesn't like touching the screen with my fingers. It'll smudges
4. No

Yes, the screen does have some resistance to the stylus. I eventually got used to it because my Kaiser is slow and I need to scroll slowly anyway.
Overall a great product. I'm selling my Kaiser today on eBay (bought it for the video camera and i'm disappointed) and the screen + body is flawless.

Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.

Geraldous said:
Sorry to head about your Kaiser. I didn't think it would be so frustratingly slow.
Thanks for letting me know.
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I just bought a ATT Tilt from eBay and I would need to purchase few accessories.
Can you provide your feedback once you installed the Invisibleshield on your Kaiser/TyTn II? thanks

The Invisibleshield works good after you get use to the feeling of the screen. I've used other shields on my Tilt and I think they are better compared to the Invisibleshield for navigating. I'm actually going to replace it later with one I had before. I do have the invisibleshield on other devices (camera, Dell PDA, old phone) and it works well. With the Tilt, I flash ROMs that are much quicker than the stock ROM and sometimes you have to apply more pressure with the stylus or finger to navigate.
What I would recommend is get the Invisibleshield, try it out and if it doesn't work they have a money back guarantee.

Yes, I found it to be unbearable on my 8GB Zune's screen, So when I got mine for my Tilt, I decided to only install the body protector and install a different screen protector, one made by Javo. The Javo screen protector is excellent, it comes with a cleaning microfiber cloth and a squeegee card, and it is really good. The invisibleshield, on the other hand, makes the screen all colored weird, and it looks like crap.

Thanks for the input. I'm actually fine with the body protector but may do what Crazysamz did, applying a different screen protector for the tilt.

I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!

jimlivingston said:
I installed it on my Tilt four days ago. Here is what I think of it: its a piece of sh|t.
1. The screen was hard to see outdoors before, now it is impossible.
2. It feels like I have rubber on my screen.
3. Scrolling with the stylus gives the sensation that you might rip, tear, or stretch the shield due to its adherent grip.
4. I am using S2U2 and cannot get my finger to unlock the phone without a dedicated and concentrated effort. The stylus however, slides the bar with ease.
In my opinion, it is unusable and a horrible waste of money. I should have known this was crap when the instruction said to squeegee the frikin' thing on as if it was a vinyl overlay (which I think it might actually be)!
A good screen protector should be more rigid and solid (like the screen itself). Furthermore, it should have anti-glare coating and not this egg shell looking crap as the invisibleshield has.
The cheap shield I bought from the cart vendor at the mall for $5.00 was much better than this!
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Thanks for the detailed review.
But instead of calling it a waste of money, do you think it would be better if you used the shield for the body of the device and another screen protector for the screen? or did you just get the screen protector for it?
I actually have it on my iPod and it does have a very uneven surface when viewing it from an angle, which is quite annoying because it doesn't look that nice.

I bought the screen protector only.

I have the InvisibleShield for my Hermes and my Blackjack (full body kit with the screen protector) and it works alright. It isn't great and it is a little "tacky" (meaning sticky). My biggest complaint is that if you just put your phone in your pocket it will eventually get dirt and pocket lint all round the edges of the protector film (which is a lot of edges if you have the full body kit).
I ended up pulling some of the kit off the Hermes because it looked terrible after a couple months. The big plus to the InvisibleShield is they tend to make a slick/slippery phone much less prone to dropping because they are so sticky.
Right now I'm absolutely in love with the Martin Field's protectors, they are much more rigid and smoother than the InvisibleShield. They work very good for the Tilt/Kaiser and are cut to fit perfect (great for TouchFLO). They are also removable and washable, and much much easier to install than the others I've tried. So far I've bought them for my Tilt, Archos 605, Sony UX, my 2nd Blackjack, HTC S620 and iPod Touch...
If you can't find the link for them let me know and I'll dig up the URL.

I have been a fan of invisibleshield when it came out for ipods. It is still keeping my ipod awesome, but the topic here is touch screen ability. I had it for my wizard. Your screen will be totally protected, but the movement isn't all that great. Feels very rubbery, but you can still click on the screen. I really suggest another protector, but only problem is, you won't get the full protection. but as long as you are careful, with another screen protector, the feel of the screen is worth it.

my only complaint is being too grippy. Like others reported, I have trouble sliding and touchflowing. Its tolerable for me though, not a dealbreaker.

The Invisibleshield is good but it depends on the application. For the Tilt I think it's not a good application (screen protector) as others have said it's not very responsive. However, I do have the invisible shield on other devices such as my digital camera LCD and it works great. They also have a good life time replacement policy.

I have been using the boxwave for my Blackberry and the Overlay plus for my other phones. I love them both and I think I am going to get the Overlay plus for Tilt and get the invisiblesheild body protection for it too.

I'm planning to get the full coverage and I was wondering how does it feel like on the back? Does it feel like you're holding a plastic bag or something? I like how smooth the back of the Kaiser battery door is.

Diamond screen protector on Raphael?

Anyone tried that yet? Are there any parts that need to be trimmed, specially the portion that covers the bottom pad.

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Anyone tried that yet? Are there any parts that need to be trimmed, specially the portion that covers the bottom pad.
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Would love to know the answer to this also, because I'm upgrading to a Pro next week and I have 2 spare protectors from my diamond

I don't know the answer, but I can tell you that the HTC branded Touch Pro comes with a screen protector in the box. I'm not sure if the network branded variants will though.

I would really recommend using screen protector customized for Raphael - it's a bit different (in shape and size) compared to Diamond.

i have the brando screen protector for the diamond on my touch pro, no need for trrimming the way its done though instead of having a cirular cut for where the front cam is, they just shape it so it cuts off that part (in other words no protector over the camera. but otherwise it fits properly. got it for free when my original screen protector peeled off in my pocket and got dust underneath.

You don´t have to adapt anything to use one for the diamond. I have done it with the protector from DuraSex and it fits in both parts
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Anyone tried that yet? Are there any parts that need to be trimmed, specially the portion that covers the bottom pad.
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I am using my Diamond protectors on my Touch pro. I have no problems with it. It covers the camera but it also did that on the Diamond.

Zagg Invisible Shield
I'm currently using the Zagg Inc. Invisible Shield screen protector for the Touch Diamond on my Touch Pro...fits perfectly!!!

I used a Diamond screen protector on Raphael, there is no problem with main screen, except i have to use a nailcutter to make curve its corners to fit Raphael screen. But on the bottom pad, big trouble, the protector is smaller and it seems not adhesive, after 1 week it peeled off and got dust!

Which screen protector are u using?

Hi folks!
I just checked out ebay and other sources and discovered that a lot of new products for protecting your babies screen hit the market since Brando's Ultra Clear for my Kaiser
I found liquid products, silicone coatings, lotus effect stuff, several new brands, solutions for just the screen or the whole Touch Pro...
Are u using the shipped screen protector or anything else?

Brando, as with any other device.

i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind

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i'm just using the screen protector that came with the phone...don't really see a reason to use another kind
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When it wears out, get a Brando or Martin Fields. You will notice a difference.

Martin Fields

which one from brando should I take:
-original
-ultra clear

Exim screen protector... le deluxe! I've been using this brand forever. I don't feel like putting a $5 protector on a once $1050 but now $850 phone.

Take UltraClear, they're better for Touch Pro.

Wich one doesn't smudge as much as the regular one delivered with the device? Or is it just me having greasy fingers?

I have UltraClear and the smudges are all over the screen, I think I'll have to get used to it.

I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.

wat bout invisible shield any1 use it on ur touch pro
my major problem now is the screen protector that given by htc after a few day of using it has some scratches on the screen protector =/

MPenguin said:
I only use Boxwave. They're the best.
According to this review, they're better than Brando.
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Protect_Your_Screen
I've got one on my Digital Rebel and Nintendo DS. Love them.
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Hmm, a review dating back to 2003, is getting to be a bit old now, don't you think?
I've ordered a Brando one, I've yet to set it.

Not really. We're not dealing with statistics here. Have plastic and adhesive technology changed so much in 5 years?
I've read reviews on the Brando and I've personally used Boxwave.
I'm sure I could find other reviews with different search terms, but it would do little good since you already ordered.
Anyway, no intarweb review is going to tip your mind. Better to just order them and try them out.

I have not received my Touch Pro yet, but I bought a box wave....I've used all except for Brando and I can say for me Box Wave have performed the best so far.

I'm using the Brando Ultra clear.
+It's extremely easy to apply without air pockets underneath.
-It's very fragile and withing a week I have 2 scratches in the screen protector
The screen protector you get with the Touch Pro is a lot less fragile but very crappy when it comes to applying it.

just ordered a box wave so I will report back and let you guys know how I like it. I got the crystal not the anti glare.

Using Exim SPUC Screen Protector since a few days and like it, quality is good, there's even a part to protect the bottom buttons

Just got the antiglare from Brando and applied it. I don't know but it doesnt seem easy for me to apply it properly.
I'll rest now and if I can, share photo of how it looks tomorrow.

Just installed a Boxwave anti-glare protector. The jury is still out for me on the portion that covers the keypad below the screen as it does interfere somewhat with the smoothness of the d-pad and center butten, but I do like the screen protector itself. It is definitely not fingerprint proof like advertised, but I do notice a reduction in glare as well as, more importantly, a good increase in touch sensitivity over the stock unit that came with the device.
I also ordered a crystal version that I have not yet installed.

Best screen protector?

Zagg Invinsible shield?
Brando?
CP SCREEN PROTECTOR?
Other?
Which one is least visible and leaves no bubbles?

Expert Shield is by far the best i have come across.

shouldn't this be posted in Blackstone accessories ?

The best screen protector is BRANDO protector,
always buying this and definitely the best.
Durable, you can wash them and reuse, etc...
here is link:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02912&dept_id=039&cat_id=0980

Proporta !!!
Hey ,
This one works realy fine for me . Not the easiest to put on.
But seems indistructible and washable.
And looks very cool on my Blackstone.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4097&t_mode=des

better think twice before using a mirrored screen protector! yes they do look cool, but the glare makes the hd impossible to use outside or in bright light conditions (much worse than normal), and occasionally frustrating in normal light. they also magnify fingerprints and smudges horribly. i'm constantly rubbing mine against my shirt to clean it
i bought a pack of two and gave one to my daughter and it didnt last the day before she pulled it off. i'm considering a brando non-mirrored in the next week or two.. i really dont like it. ifyour in a dimly lit office all day, it might work for you

Vikuiti DQC160 3M Screen Protector for HTC Touch HD, by far the best screen protector i have used. Not even one scratch after 2 months and very easy aplication.
http://www.amazon.de/Vikuiti-DQC-16...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1233388812&sr=8-2

Brando is very very good

Martin Fields for me.

lucian777 said:
Vikuiti DQC160 3M Screen Protector for HTC Touch HD, by far the best screen protector i have used. Not even one scratch after 2 months and very easy aplication.
http://www.amazon.de/Vikuiti-DQC-16...=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1233388812&sr=8-2
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This might be a stupid question, but that screen protector isn't on the us version of amazon. Google will not translate the page either... Therefore, how does a non-dutch speaking person order one of these?
I really like 3m products.. Anyone?

I'm quite happy with EXIM screen protectors :
http://www.eximstyle.com/productpage/sp_SPUC.html

My vote goes to Brando crystal clear - very good, can't see it there, and touch is the same.

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This might be a stupid question, but that screen protector isn't on the us version of amazon. Google will not translate the page either... Therefore, how does a non-dutch speaking person order one of these?
I really like 3m products.. Anyone?
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I'm from Europe ..and i speak dutch..by the way this is the translated page from google
http://translate.google.com/transla...1233388812&sr=8-2&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

I have tried almost all the above mentioned screen protectors but Martin fields and i can say with pride that if you want your device to last for years looking same GO for INVISIBLE SHIELD. With brando, you have to change every few month otherwise the scratches start to appear on the protector

Yeah, but the Invisible Shield just looks so bleh. No way to get the film to fit flush along the border of the screen where it meets the body of the phone. The film just floats in that area, basically creating a void that appears as an air bubble along the whole perimeter of the screen.
They really weren't thinking when they made the cut for that film. No reason not to have made one dedicated piece for the screen, separate from the side of the phone body. If they took one second to have actually looked at the phone itself, they would have realized this.
It does help give a better grip/handle on the phone, due to the silicon material. However, it just looks ... eh. Certainly not invisible. At all. It does change the look of the phone. Looks much cheaper. But I guess scratches'll do that too.
That silicon material also changes the feel of interacting with the touch screen. It does have some give to it. So it feels like you get more compression as the stylus sinks into it. And your fingers/stylus will not glide as easily as you might expect for this type of input method. It's not a hindrance, per se, but it will be different.
Installed the front and the bottom piece. Stopped there. Didn't want that glossy rubber-like material covering the flat-black rubber-tone finish of the back cover and the brushed aluminum finish surrounding the lens.
Would really like a dedicated film for the screen that kept the same physical feel of the screen - more like a glassy/plastic film - and a separate one that protected all the glossy black lacquer finished pieces.

The Zagg Invisible Shield is rubbish. It tries to cover the screen and the chrome bits around the screen with the same piece, so it doesn't fit as well as it should

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The Zagg Invisible Shield is rubbish. It tries to cover the screen and the chrome bits around the screen with the same piece, so it doesn't fit as well as it should
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I guess you got the limited bling edition.

are there any anti-glare screen protector around, like the iphone one? Been searching around but couldn't find any, would be good if there are plans for it.

there are many, almost all manufactures have a clear and a non-reflecting version. I use Exim crystal clear protector and Im very, very happy!! I have it since the first days I bought my blackstone (I bought it on November, 21st) and it lasts until now, without any issue!! I'm using my phone full-time, about 6 hours a day, non-stop, so I think this is a really good protection! and it looks like it's not there so, decide yourself, the problem with non-reflective ones is, that you have not such a clear view, but it's only minimal. For me anyway, I need to have a very clear one, cause I'm most of the time inside buildings and I want for watching movies, have absolute clear screen^^ that's it

lucian777 said:
I'm from Europe ..and i speak dutch..by the way this is the translated page from google
http://translate.google.com/transla...1233388812&sr=8-2&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=
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thanks... but when i clicked to add one to the basket, google stopped translating, so i was stuck. so i ordered a brando protector. the mirrored one was way cool and very impressive, but i drive a lot, and it made my hd unusable when the sun was out. so bad that i pulled it off and my hd is unprotected untill the brando arrives