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Hard Reset when Registering to Network

Hello Everybody,
I have just another cool prob.
My unit is HARD RESETTING every time I reach a radio signal
Radio Stack: 1.05.00
ExtRom: can't upgrade, defected
OS: 1.13 ITA
Can it be a wrong Radio the solve? I will now begin all what I maked:
1) The great error of upgrade to 1.12 Imate ITA from an ITA Qtek
2) The repairing center said that there was a mix of Qtek and Imate: and that it's impossible to upgrade
3) After trying to upgrade with an almost dead battery (and failing 2 times) I think that I've defected the ExtRom: but that would not be a problem, only for the repairing centre that would to change the MoBo
4) Suddenly I notice noitceable interferences when I was calling and when gaining any tipe of signal
5) Tried MANY radio stacks (and upgraded to OS 1.13 ITA too
6) And then, everything worked "fine" besides the interferences, the ExtRom, and the low temperature mess that will not wake up the Unit, but the Radio Stack was still functioning
7) And finally the real mess: I was listening to music with TCPMP, when a call arrived. I've answered normally, and closed the call. HARD RESET.
So, after few seconds to register to the network, it Hard Reset. Not sure of this, but I think that it can be the interferences that occurs. If it is, I'm supposed to pay the hardware reparation, 230+ €. Hope thet a Radio Upgrade will solve the mess. Otherwise, I will broke this deficient "phone" (that isn't anymore on how it seems)
Note that all the other things are perfectly functional, even the bluetooth stack.
After this, I will probably write all the things wrong on this f***ing device...
ANY HELP IS WELCOME!
From: MocciJ

This is an upgrade of the mess
First the interference is called RF leakage (or something similar)
Second I've tried to upgrade the radio stack to 1.13 and what I've found: The problem persist! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Third, I think it's really the RF: it gradually appeared and so... PUFF!
I will also add that if a sound was made by the ext spk when RF is audible, it was amplyifing... To mention, the red button was making ext sound... Finally I will say that the RF had destroyed himself; I can't hear it anymore, because it's HARD RESETTING first.
Mine is a faulty device, I know. I loved it too, I felt really bad when it hard reset in this manner. I also know that I have payed 420€ for a phone pda... Now it's value it's below 200€... I'm gonna cry
Now I only hope the repairing center will accept it. SURE IT ISN'T A ROM PROBLEM. Now I only need someone that can explain me how to get rid of the error 113 that face me in the ExtRom Upgrade... Because if I succeed in this and upgrade to a pure Qtek rom, there will be some chances to regain warranty... Without pay anything...
DON'T TRY TO PUT A DIFFERENT BRANDED ROM ON YOUR PDA
AND THINK BEFORE DOING ANYTHING STRANGE
THINK ABOUT UR WARRANTY!!!
From: MocciJ

Yes, I've tried it.
Sure, I think it's impossible repairing it for myself. Sigh.
I also noticed that everytime I Hard reset the unit by the network registering prob, my ext speaker is WAY degraded. It probably seems that the interference is eating my speaker...
The ONLY thing that I can do is to try to upgrade the ExtRom bypassing the error 113. By doing this, the repairing center can declare the integrity of the rom and the native faults.
Luckily I've left my old phone, the Nokia 3200, still perfect...
Thank'u anyway for the interest...

The message above is the answer to a guy that misteriously deleted his comment... :?: :?: :?:

Prophet Strange MENTALITY

Hi Dear Friends,
I bought one SPV-M600 (same as HTC Prophet) and there was a problem with the sound in ear speaker and microfon. Then I made many updates do different vesions and I found tt this problem disapper. Now I can speak, but I cant hang-up the line and to press the btn in upper right corner, associated to contacts. The most strange is, when I start the camera and then I exit fm camera menu, those two buttons working perfectiy for a some time. I'm sure that this is a software problem. I tried
[wm6.1]Prophet ShadoW 2.0 Touch Edition
[wm6.1]Prophet S4V.19701.01 (UC)
PV_Temp + Prophet tuch XB
...
But same and the same... When I restart the phone I can't use contacts btn and red headphone for hand-up and exit. After some circumstances (like camera on, than off) these two btns start working for some time.
P.S. All times all used soft for G4 phone.
IPL 2.20.0001
SPL 2.G4.4pda
GSM 02.19.21
OS 10.0.0.0
_________________-
DEVICE INFO
ROM: 10.0.0.0 WWE
09/26/07
Radio 2.19.21
Protocol 4.1.13.09
Ext Rom ver Prophet Touch X
Model No. PM300
PLEASE HELP ME TO SOLVE MY PROBLEM.
THOUSEND THANKS IN ADVANCE.

this reminds me of my problem with the power button and it might not neccessarily be a software problem if it's the same on all ROMs.. i didn't get you - you said it was the same with the original rom, too?

Never seen original rom
Hi Vooood,
tks for your reply.
Please note I never seen the original rom fm Orange UK.
Could someone tell me from where I can download it.
Best Regards

hmm no idea if you can download it.. perhaps if orange released upgrades or something like that.. but you can request some original roms and people will most of the time reply with one
your last hope is servicing where they can put on the original rom and even check out your buttons if you don't mind paying for that..

gera4ko said:
Hi Vooood,
tks for your reply.
Please note I never seen the original rom fm Orange UK.
Could someone tell me from where I can download it.
Best Regards
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Look at the wiki!

No Phone after WM6 upgrade

ROM 5.60.00 WWE
Radio 1.15.00
Protocol 1337.45
After Helmis WM6.0 upgrade everything works fine, apart the Phone mode works only after a soft reset. Turning off in the Comm Manager works, but cannot be switched on again.
BT works perfect.
Upgrade from Radio 1.13.00 to 1.15.00 had no effect .
Any suggestions.
Thank you.

Lunart said:
ROM 5.60.00 WWE
Radio 1.15.00
Protocol 1337.45
After Helmis WM6.0 upgrade everything works fine, apart the Phone mode works only after a soft reset. Turning off in the Comm Manager works, but cannot be switched on again.
BT works perfect.
Upgrade from Radio 1.13.00 to 1.15.00 had no effect .
Any suggestions.
Thank you.
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Did you follow all procedures. Specially the Clean Hive (aka)No Yes Yes ? Had you tried other ROM's? Some if not all ROMS for BA, after flash you need to turn phone ON. But from what I understand, yours turns on, then can turn off, but can't ON again. Ummm I can also suggest you to read the full thread for Helmi's ROM and see if others have had that problem and if they've found a solution.

markanthonypr said:
Did you follow all procedures. Specially the Clean Hive (aka)No Yes Yes ? Had you tried other ROM's? Some if not all ROMS for BA, after flash you need to turn phone ON. But from what I understand, yours turns on, then can turn off, but can't ON again. Ummm I can also suggest you to read the full thread for Helmi's ROM and see if others have had that problem and if they've found a solution.
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Hey Markanthony! Happy New Year!!
@Lunart,
You may want to upgrade to a later rom since that was a bug (which was later resolved) in Helmi's WM6.0 roms. The phone cannot get into or out of flight mode (I can't remember which one)...
Try sun_dream's or xplode's roms since they no longer have any of these bugs. Hope this helps.

Hi Markanthonypr , Egzthunder1 ,
thank you for your suggestions. First I tried to re-install Helmis WM6 and applied the "clean hive" no,yes,yes. This did not work.
And then I flashed sun_dreams Rom and everything is 100 %.
Thank you both. Best wishes from Germany.

egzthunder1 said:
Hey Markanthony! Happy New Year!!
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Hello my friend, Happy New Year to you too Good to read you mate!
Lunart said:
Hi Markanthonypr , Egzthunder1 ,
thank you for your suggestions. First I tried to re-install Helmis WM6 and applied the "clean hive" no,yes,yes. This did not work.
And then I flashed sun_dreams Rom and everything is 100 %.
Thank you both. Best wishes from Germany.
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Glad you got it working. Enjoy!! This is a great phone. I'm shopping for another one for my girlfriend
Edit: Hey Egz, remember I mentioned about my Siemens SX66 now showing PH20B instead of PH20B1? Well guess what... As I was seeing other phones on E-Bay, one folk showed an enlarged pic of his phone w/o battery, and I noticed it said Ph20B <<<But.. Its a Siemens(NO CAM).... soooo I removed battery on my phone and guess? It also says PH20B... So I'm very confused. I would have swore that I had seen on the phone info that it was a PH20B1(As shown on Device Info/Identity) and have also read everywhere on here about PH20B1's being without camera(as mine is), so, which is my correct phone? LOL ok, I know what the Back Label says! PH20B! But.. It is confusing... Any Lights?

markanthonypr said:
Hello my friend, Happy New Year to you too Good to read you mate!
Glad you got it working. Enjoy!! This is a great phone. I'm shopping for another one for my girlfriend
Edit: Hey Egz, remember I mentioned about my Siemens SX66 now showing PH20B instead of PH20B1? Well guess what... As I was seeing other phones on E-Bay, one folk showed an enlarged pic of his phone w/o battery, and I noticed it said Ph20B <<<But.. Its a Siemens(NO CAM).... soooo I removed battery on my phone and guess? It also says PH20B... So I'm very confused. I would have swore that I had seen on the phone info that it was a PH20B1(As shown on Device Info/Identity) and have also read everywhere on here about PH20B1's being without camera(as mine is), so, which is my correct phone? LOL ok, I know what the Back Label says! PH20B! But.. It is confusing... Any Lights?
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Weird... if you got your BA second hand, there is a chance that the previous owner exchanged the case for a PH20B either to make it look nicer or maybe because he messed it up along with the camera, which he/she might have messed up as well (too farfetched of a theory if you ask me, but it is possible)... God only knows!
Another explanation is that they put the wrong board on the phone when they made it... could happen (far more likely to happen than a guy completely modding his BA )
Anyway... weird indeed.

hi i have exactly the same problem. but with sundreams rom
HTC-BA_5.2.20758WWE_v3.02__25M_PP-16M_RAMdisk
i am not really sure but i think i can't really controll anything via comm manager except for switching the phone off (on does not work obviously...), i definitly can not turn wi-fi and bt on using the comm manager. turning it off i did not test yet (i have activated / deactivated wi-fi and bt through the options in "settings" until now)
any ideas?
greetz fleity

Well... first and foremost, Lunart's issue has nothing to do with Wifi or BT, it was a problem with "Flight Mode" option in the Comm Manager.
Your issue is a completely different one. It is a bug that has been widely talked about in this forum. There are probably close to 100 posts (if not more with the answer for your question). I feel like being a nice guy though, so I will save you the search time.
The problem with CommManager was introduced somewhere along the porting of WM5 (aka Magneto) back in the day. The problem consists in the comm manager not being able to load the necessary drivers for wifi from its interface (don't ask me why, I have no clue). The workaround for this is relatively simple. [highlight]You have to do this after every soft reset, so please keep it in mind.[\highlight]
1. In the CommManager, go to Settings > Wireless Lan
2. Once there, you will see the option "Wireless LAN OFF. Turn on WLAN". Click on it. More than likely, your device will try to establish a connection and fail (sometimes it does connect though). This is fine since your objective was not to establish a connection at this point. You are only trying to load the drivers.
3. Get out of the settings and go back to Comm Manager and click on the WLAN icon and Voila!!!! You will now be able to toggle Wifi on and off via CommManager.
BT should work without problems though. If you are still having problems (and considering the strange behavior in CommManager that you are describing), you may want to consider a Hard Reset. One other alternative for things not working the way they should could be that you did not completely clean the Hive after flashing the rom.
Hopefully this will help you out.

hm thx but that is unfortunatly not directly my problem. i don't really care if i can control wifi and bt with the comm manager because for them i have other possibilities (speaking of the settings dialog etc.). i just thought it would be usefull to know.
the real issue is the phone i am able to turn it off via comm manager but not on again (and with no other button, dialog whatever too).
i noticed it yesterday when i was visiting a friend, at his house i have absolutly no signal at all, so i thought "hey why not turn the phone off, lets see how much battery that saves me" and later as i tried to turn it on again my only chance was a soft reset.
if you can tell me just some way to switch the phone on and off i don't need the comm manager anyway

fleity said:
hm thx but that is unfortunatly not directly my problem. i don't really care if i can control wifi and bt with the comm manager because for them i have other possibilities (speaking of the settings dialog etc.). i just thought it would be usefull to know.
the real issue is the phone i am able to turn it off via comm manager but not on again (and with no other button, dialog whatever too).
i noticed it yesterday when i was visiting a friend, at his house i have absolutly no signal at all, so i thought "hey why not turn the phone off, lets see how much battery that saves me" and later as i tried to turn it on again my only chance was a soft reset.
if you can tell me just some way to switch the phone on and off i don't need the comm manager anyway
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Like I said, it could be an installation problem (the hive not being properly cleaned out and so on). A hard reset should take care of the problem. I have the same rom as you do (only without the pagepool) and have not experienced this problem at all. Give it a try and hopefully it will solve your issue.

ok i will do that thx already

WIFI Problem

Do any one have the same issue like me?
I cannt turn on my WFI, I have flashed the original rom to 6.5, but still wont help.
entered the com manager turn on wifi didnt work, and go to advance got underlined wording "turn on Wireless LAN", didnt make any changes as well,
Can some one help me?

Greatdane said:
Do any one have the same issue like me?
I cannt turn on my WFI, I have flashed the original rom to 6.5, but still wont help.
entered the com manager turn on wifi didnt work, and go to advance got underlined wording "turn on Wireless LAN", didnt make any changer=s as well,
Can some one help me?
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it would be better to ask in the special thread of the ROM you´re using. It´s neither a gerneral Blackstone issue nor one of WM 6.5

Now, I have flashed to a diffrent radio, but cant do anything as well.
Any body can help?

Wifi
I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.
My provider changed the phone for me as a fault.
Now, all is fine.

The problem is now I have spl the unit and start up color looks weird.
How do I get back to the old spl?
so that my warranty wont be voided?
Please Help Needed here.

Matthes42 said:
it would be better to ask in the special thread of the ROM you´re using. It´s neither a gerneral Blackstone issue nor one of WM 6.5
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you'd better to try "WiFi Monster"!
i have same problem in my hd !

Moving to balckstone
Post your question in the rom thread that you have an issue with else in the general section. Issue has nothing to do with developement

The problem is I had changed to original and cooked rom, the result is the same.
I was wondering if its really a bad hardware, how come it would work if I do a soft reset (not every time can work, even hard reset).
My apology if I had post in the wrong section.
But wifi monster did help a lot, when I turn on the wifi using the original com manager, it wont work, but when I use the wifi monster, some time will work, and some time need a reset or hard reset.
any one can help.

Greatdane said:
The problem is now I have spl the unit and start up color looks weird.
How do I get back to the old spl?
so that my warranty wont be voided?
Please Help Needed here.
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You mention colours look weird. If I'm right you have fallen to to the old trap of using wrong HSPL resulting in a greenish discolourization. This would also affect phone & wifi.
What does your SPL say? Which rom are you using?
To get back to original SPL for warranty reasons follow this guide and scroll down to section called
How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY! at bottom of 1st post

@Fallen, I am using original starhub provider for the first time, the wifi got problem, later I hard spl 156, and upgraded to energy rom, the wifi still the same problem, sometime will on and sometimes can't on. But now thanks to your link, I managed to revert back to the original SPL, and original rom. But the wifi is still the same prob. For the first few hour the wifi can on, but after that the problem comes again. I cant even tick the turn on wifi. nothing happen when I tick the wifi option.
I have another unit for comparison today, the same radio, the same rom, the same spl, and the other unit works well, wifi on when ever I want to use it.
Someone can help?
Really confusing me..
Not sure HW or SW prob.
If HW fault, the wifi wont even turn on, Am I right?
or its got something to do with the radio?

Anyone can help?

Nope - but the same happened to one of ours this month (stock Orange UK handset, never been flashed, 3 months old). Wifi refused to start, TF3D camera app unable to locate hardware (black screen, icon to select camera missing). Random device.exe error reports when trying to use the camera and once per restart from the WiFi stack. Hard resets, etc. made no difference, and Orange simply replaced it, saying it was listed on their system as a hardware issue.
If you Google you'll find groups of other people arguing over the same problem, on several different HTC handsets, and nobody's ever gotten a solution other than sending it back. Lots of "helpful" stock answers about re-flashing but the OPs reply it hasn't made any difference, and the repaired phones all seem to come back with boards and cables swopped.

Thanks for all the response, I guess I had to go to the service center for warranty claim.

Now, I found My problem.
When ever I instaled any program. the wifi will stoped working.
is that software issue?
or hard ware issue?
But when I didnt instal any third application the wifi work perfectly, I have changed to several rom including 6.5 coocked.
Last attempt before going to service center.

my wifi was working fine with Dutty's R9, and an attempt to connect to some hotspot in the mall led me to connect to no one. and back at home it is also not connecting to the home wifi.
i've edited and deleted the settings but still its not connecting . want to check other options before performing a hard reset.

Getting Andriod on this thing

I have an Imagio that i would like to give to a friend, they want Angry birds. And well.... The Imagio is Windows Mobile. So i was wondering if i can get android on there?
I've heard rumors that a blackstone ROM would work, But i've no idea how to go about installing it.. Any ideas?

I've tried a few times to put it on there but it doesn't work for me. I've been asking around as well.

Is not that easy, it is not the same hardware only same processor and ram, maybe FM radio and GPS is the same, but imagio must have a different GSM radio (because of the HSPA features) and also a CDMA/EvDO radio; the bluetooth is 2.1 instead of 2.0 and the hardware keys are different (only 4 on the blackstone)... The key is to develop a new Android rom for the imagio, is just a matter of drivers and configurations, i am pretty shure it's all there but has not been put together yet...
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The ignorance is a deseased, but it can be cured

It booted (i guess) !!
coolpoete said:
I've tried a few times to put it on there but it doesn't work for me. I've been asking around as well.
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Hi, i was ale to boot yesterday but i found a problem with the LCD screen, it is not recognized and is blank, i think maybe we can work it out using the correct command line arguments in the startup.txt HaRET file
Please try it, i need help:
http://www.4shared.com/file/h9LTDTdp...imagiotar.html
The screen is blank, but i know it boots because it turns off the screen after a minute and responds to the "send" buttom and turns on, also it created a data.img and FSCK0000.REC file
There's a lot of work to do but we are on the right way !!!
Thank's