Got my X1i in U.S. My thoughts... - XPERIA X1 General

So,
My X1i arrived from Clove yesterday. It is a thing of beauty, pure and simple.
I got it in silver and it looks like a Vertu with Windows Mobile and touchscreen... ; )
I was a little put off by the fact the box was not sealed, and, there was a scratch on the side of the phone! I am assuming that someone was checking things in the box and did it then.. Not cool...
Keyboard is OK, gets a little taking used to . Not horrible, but not as easy as the 9502/TYTN II/Treo 750. However, It's not a dealbreaker by any means...
Anyways, display is amazing, and, I'm happy to say I get a pretty strong "H" signal here in Chicago. However, if I don't manually set the networks to 850/1900, and leave it on 'Auto" for the band settings, I only get "G" as in gprs. Getting between 600 and 1200kbps on dslreports. The same as with my I-Mate 9502
Build quality is good. Not amazing. There is a little wobble between the keyboard and main display when closed, and the optical joystick rattles around when there is any movement with the phone.
Bought a Tumi phone case yesterday and it fits well.. I'm thinking that the silver is easily scratchable, so I probably have to be careful..
Other than that I think the phone is pretty damn cool. By far the best WM phone I have ever owned.
Feel free to ask any questions...
Dbond
*UPDATE*
For some reason, the signal on my X1 was great the first day, but since then has been pretty shoddy. It fluctuates between 3G, EDGE, and GPRS. The "G" icon actually pops up... I haven't seen that in years... I get less bars than I did with my 9502... Not sure what's going on, if it's a software or hardware issue... Noticed that when I get 1-2 bars on HSDPA and switch to EDGE signal is stronger, but not by much...

WTF! i preorder Silver, and Clove sent me black!
is Silver shinny, like chrome?

Silver is more like gunmetal. Nice, but will scratch very easily.
Did you talk to Clove? I have to e-mail them about the scratch..
How is your HSDPA coverage?

talk to clove about what?
i dont really care what color, i just happy to have X1!
but WTF! i preorder silver, i expect to get silver, not black!
i really perfer Silver, i might sell black X1 and get Silver USA version when available.
HSDPA is great, did 2 speedtest.com/mspeed.com and both time get around 980kb!

Lol @ dbond. Moving from a 9502 to the Xperia. You might be as nuts as me paying way too much out of pocket for phones. Hopefully the Xperia will be a much better experience (no pun intended) for you than the 9502 has been for the average owner. I'd love to try out an X1, but I'm still gunshy after dumping so much cash on the 9502.

motionmind said:
Lol @ dbond. Moving from a 9502 to the Xperia. You might be as nuts as me paying way too much out of pocket for phones. Hopefully the Xperia will be a much better experience (no pun intended) for you than the 9502 has been for the average owner. I'd love to try out an X1, but I'm still gunshy after dumping so much cash on the 9502.
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LOL
Motionmind,
Yes, I dumped a crapload of cash on (2) 9502's Sold my first, then rebought it after my 3rd TYTN II didn't cut it. Got used to the VGA screen. Before that it was the Eten X800 and M800...
The X1i is awesome, but, I didn't think the 9502 was all that bad, especially after the 6.1 upgrade. Actually, liked it quite a bit, but, couldn't resist the X1.
IMHO, X1i is dope, but 9502 isn't far behind, especially if you know how to tweak it....
Wait till the price drops on the X1i, then get it...
Even though I'm broke, I'm keeping the 9502... Still the first phone I used that lived up to the hype...

good stuff dbond what service you using it with it would be nice if you could tell the x1 when you want it to use the hsdpa or switch back to edge. Like if your using an messanger use edge cuz you don't need a fast connection for that and then when your browsing the net it switches to hsdpa so you get what you need to get and get off line
i really want the x1i in sliver
it would be great if you made an invisible shield for it
the 9502 looks like a nice phone it kinda reminds me of a sidekick

dbond45 said:
LOL
Wait till the price drops on the X1i, then get it...
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Meh...I'm waiting for the Fuze. The x1 screen is just too small for me to care that it's WVGA. Now, if they'd hurry and get a Touch HD Pro out the door, I'll have to have a serious argument with my wallet.

Guys,
One thing I've noticed is that with both HSDPA and EDGE, my signal is weak... Worse than TYTN II and I-Mate 9502...
The phone switches automatically to HSDPA and EDGE, You can choose either or, but not when to "switch" on a dime...
Motionmind, Fuze is gonna be dope!

I meant to ask you dbond...I know the X1 screen is recessed but how does it compare to the 9502? Ie...recessed more or less than that?

Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.

contaygious said:
Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.
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The x1 version has 850.

motionmind said:
I meant to ask you dbond...I know the X1 screen is recessed but how does it compare to the 9502? Ie...recessed more or less than that?
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I'd say the screen on the X1 is slightly less recessed, and has sharper edges overall...

motionmind said:
The x1 version has 850.
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850 GSM maybe, but not UMTS. Only the X1a has that. This has fairly much been confirmed now.

Scott Whitmore said:
850 GSM maybe, but not UMTS. Only the X1a has that. This has fairly much been confirmed now.
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Not according to PocketNow...
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=24649

contaygious said:
Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.
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i really perfer silver, and i preordered Silver. but clove sent me black! WTF!

motionmind said:
Not according to PocketNow...
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=24649
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if you read that thread you'll see it's mostly BS and everything SE have said will suggest that it doesn't have it. I'm sure there is a thread somewhere for this.

have any of you comparetd the Xperia to the Fuze. I guess the Fuze isn't quite out yet. I'm on my 5th HTC device but I want a bigger screen but with a keyboard.
Anyone know when the X1a will be out?

Related

Got my UK Vario II Today!

Cheers Royal Mail!
Got my Vario II sitting in front of me now..very pleased as you can imagine.
Only ordered it up at 5pm last night after calling T-Mob 5 times during the day to be told each time "its coming soon, probably September". LIES! ALL LIES! Lol! :lol:
I upgraded from my MDA Compact so had to swallow a fairly large upgrade fee but I get half price line rental thanks to my uncle who used to work for Mercury/One2One. Changed my contract to a Relax 35 with W'n'W for the grand total of £21.25 p/month!
The phone is a HERM300 and looks a lot nicer than I thought it would - the colour scheme is quite tasteful.
I'll post up some pics soon if anyone wants them?
yes - post post post
i'm a little concerned this 100 batch from t-mo may be different from the 3,000 batch coming next week..
Ah good stuff...
I just phoned up them 5mins ago, they still have them in stock- next day delivery- but 1) my upgrade is not due for another month and 2) the price is relatively high; but they offered me £10 off per month on rental for 6 months.
Pics would be good, as well as a quick review :wink:
Got mine today, is currently charging.
I took a picture quickly from my RAZR, so not the best quality
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jazza2/221857863/
Here are my pics - sorry for the awful quality from my MDA Compact!
just bought mine from talesales and lady said only 32 left
mine also arrived this morning, but due to so many people buying them it hs crashed the sim registration system so can't use anything to do with the sim card!!
Can people check there backlight on there keyboard because mine doesn't work
jaso2005 said:
Can people check there backlight on there keyboard because mine doesn't work
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It only works if it is dark, it has a light sensor on the top right corner. Did you check that?
Mine seems to work ok now - it didn't at first though I didn't have my SIM card inserted.
Just testing with the Slingbox Mobile Beta the moment..working pretty damn well!
I've just got 1.2megabits from the Speed Test website, very pleased!
jaso2005 said:
mine also arrived this morning, but due to so many people buying them it hs crashed the sim registration system so can't use anything to do with the sim card!!
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yep, mine SIM card doesn't work yet either. i've called them up, hopefully it will work later on...
anyone have screen issues? or keyboard issues with these?
I think the vario has the most accessible/stylish layout of the Hermes series. The TyTNs button layout is comfortable enough but the Vario's is stylish as well, unfortuntely that burgandy or dare I say pink keyboard just puts me further off then a dog and his dinner.
But congrats on the upgrade and thanks for the pics.
m8 just showed me his phone next door the thing looks very nice closed but god the colour is ugly.
the button arrangement does look as if it would be better in use than the herm100 + herm200 but there's no way i could live with the colour scheme...
that's why i endeed up getting the m3100 on orange (+ got tired of waiting for t-mob to release this...)
it's worth paying more for data to avoid the burgandy IMO :lol:
DAMN - I hope its not as ugly as you guy say as I've just done the reverse and sent the SPV 3100 back to orange and ordered a Vario II (Hopefully should receive it tomorrow).
Does it only come in one colour scheme ?
I don't think its that bad - its a matte metallic-y burgundy finish, definitely not pink!
No choice of colours currently.
i think it looks pretty good from the front when it's closed!
i just noticed from the pics that the back cover is black...
seems a bit of an odd decision by t-mobile to have chosen a silver front, burgandy middle, and then black on the rear!
is the bloke at t-mob who chooses the colours colourblind or something? :lol:
So is it any good?
I've been waiting and waiting for the SE P990i (having had an XDA 2s)
Should I get this baby instead? I am tempted by web and walk!
Any comments please?
Theyve all gone.....
got one of the last 3 today at 1pm
Hurry up postie
lininjim said:
So is it any good?
I've been waiting and waiting for the SE P990i (having had an XDA 2s)
Should I get this baby instead? I am tempted by web and walk!
Any comments please?
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Hermes is a pda with phone features,
P990i on the otherhand is a phone with pda features.
And symbian is well know as symbiatch.
Having had experiences with P9* phones, I would definatile recommend
the Hermes.

The lament over HD in US...

I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"? Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person...
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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I realize I'll do nothing but create clutter with this post.... but I am doing it anyway
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can't tell you how many times i've done the same, lol.
meanvulcan said:
I've looked at everything out there (in the US)... Diamond, Touch Pro, upcoming Omnia (at Verizon), even thought about Xperia... Nothing comes close to HD, in my mind. But buying it without network discounts and giving up 3G is crazy too.
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for you, giving up network discounts and 3G is crazy. for me, those 2 criteria are low on my list. i view it more as a tradeoff/investment to get what i want (not what i need, lol). i used 1 subsidized device in that past 4 years; everything else was/is unsubsidized. my experience suggests that unlocked/unsubsidized devices sale faster and at higher prices. anyway, i resale my phones via ebay and use the proceeds to fund some or all of the cost of my next device. i must admit that i've been fortunate enough to also fund my tech habit via dividends from sporting "investments". we all have our addictions, vices, etc. unfortunately, the phone addiction can be an expensive one.
meanvulcan said:
I am completely bummed out about it. HTC, damn you! Why hasn't someone else stepped up to make phone like this that works in the US. High-res screen, high-res camera, thin, with screen of at least 3.5"?
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i agree with you 100%! my suspicions are that contractual agreements between htc and at&t and at&t and "the fruit company" have something to do with the HD not coming to the US. at&t is the only GSM carrier with an extended 3G footprint and bringing the HD to at&t would directly compete against the fruity phone. the fruit company wouldn't like that, lol. now that still doesn't explain why the HD is missing the us 3G bands...this could be due to technical reasons.
meanvulcan said:
Ya know, so you can actually thumb-type without the hardware keyboard? Even if you have fingers that are bigger than a 7-year-old's? Like a normal person....
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with the improved sensitivity of the HD, one-handed or two-handed thumb typing is better than i expected. there's always room for improvement, but it works very well for me.
meanvulcan said:
All this can make someone go old-school BlackBerry... and they don't have a cure for that...
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tried the crackberry drug once and had major withdrawal issues, lol. for me, it's not a viable substitute.
Feeding the addiction, eh? I'd actually live without 3G -- I keep my Kaiser on Edge most of the time anyway, if only it was cheaper. I am just surprised this is the only phone either than the fruity company's youPhone that has a touchscreen >= 3.5" (HTC Universal excluded). Bastardos... the lot of'em.
Answer me this...
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
sultanofsumar said:
I couldn't hold out anymore and I ordered one from the Uk. Now everyday I'm thinking of sekking it for a AT&T Fuze to get 3G back, but this is what I don't get. I had a Polaris, which as far as I know never was released on a carrier here; yet it still ran US 3G. WHY DON"T THEY DO THAT WITH THIS THING!!?
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so, if you're selling to get 3G, you must be using 3G extensively everyday? true? if yes, and i was in your shoes, i would have passed on the HD. regarding the 3G bands, well, marketing decisions by someone led them to exclude the 3G bands on the HD. the market has changed (for whatever reaason) since the Polaris was relased. the first evidence of that was the release of the Diamond without 3G. we're just small pawns in the game...
3G remorse
Yes, I lived in Orlando and now NY where both had great 3G almost all times. I am constantly checking the internet on pricing items and looking at emails. I hate to admit this too, but the Iphone 3G was pretty functional for me. I just hate Mac everything so i got rid of it. I just love the screen on the HD though! I think I'm buying a Polaris tomorrow.
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
HD fever
redrazr7791 said:
Man, if i could get this phone, i could care less about 3G lol. I am with sprint, but am willing to ORDER THIS PHONE FROM ACROSS THE POND, have it shipped over here and getting an At&t plan or something and using the sim card in this phone.....just to have this phone. Knowing me......i will probably buy this phone, a good friend of mine ordered it and had it shipped to him the other day. I am going to visit him for the holidays and will finally FINALLY get some hands on with this bad A** phone.
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I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
audscott said:
I went through the exact thoughts after getting my omnia. I lacked the willpower to hold off for the HD. After having having the omnia two weeks I broke the piggy(again) to get the HD.
I'm with US t-mo, limiting my 3G options to the G1, which does does not impress. I'm satisfied with 2G and WiFi.
Ultimately, I'm extremely happy with the beautiful screen and build quality.
By the way, anyone want to buy a slightly used omnia....CHEAP!
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redrazr7791 said:
ME TOO lol. Im with sprint right now and would give anything to get my hands on this phone. So you have t-mobile? I thought this phone could only run on At&T? Am i missing something, i live in right behind a t-mobile store, what did you do to get your plan onto the HD and get it running? PM ME IF NEED BE
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It's a GSM phone, so if it's not locked it will work on any GSM network -- that's AT&T and T-mo in the US.
Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
redrazr7791 said:
Ok, so lets say that you can get this phone unlocked here in the U.S. And sign up with T-mobile with one of their plans, could you just switch out the sim card from the phone you get into this phone? Im really interested in getting this phone and am willing to open up a contract with either T-MOBILE or At&t. Im not a big talker but am a big texter. I was looking into the basic myfaves plan but was wondering if you could use the pay-as-you-go plans with this phone also. Any one have any suggestions?
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it's already unlocked if you purchase from someone like Clove, Expansys. and yes, all you have to do is pop in your SIM card and you're good to go. i got mine from Clove Technologies and it's working great on at&t. it will even configure your internet settings...
you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans an I think I can narrow down to 5 people to put on my faves. any suggestions man ever since I got my hands on this phone the other day which it was my friends...all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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you read my mind cortez I was going to order it from them too. im thinking about opening a plan with t-mobile since they have cheaper plans ..all I can do is think about how to get it to work in the u.s.
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I've been using unlocked ppc's with tmob for about 2years...hard to beat the price plans, Edge works great, and Gms works anywhere in the world!

Any resolution to the X1's poor reception...

...because at the moment I'm handing my phone back tomorrow morning & reverting to my old N95. Where my N95 gives me full HSDPA signal, I battle to maintain EDGE on the Xperia...
Never has a much-anticipated (and EXPENSIVE) purchase left me so sour... I've flashed to the latest software via SEUS & played around with the different radio versions here - all to no avail... am I missing something?
mine's got great reception
as good as both my gf's nokias
I never had bad reception so far. Beats my old N95 hands down.
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... am I missing something?
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I think what we both missed was Bonnie Cha of CNET telling us not to buy it. I didn't see her review until after I bought it.
She didn't exactly say not to buy it, but there was a lot of hinting between the lines.
George Knighton said:
I think what we both missed was Bonnie Cha of CNET telling us not to buy it. I didn't see her review until after I bought it.
She didn't exactly say not to buy it, but there was a lot of hinting between the lines.
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LOL WUT???
I live in the middle of nowhere in bavaria and haven't ever had any problems with the reception. And dude, the step from X1 to N95 is like the step from a DB9 to tricycle
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I live in the middle of nowhere in bavaria and haven't ever had any problems with the reception. And dude, the step from X1 to N95 is like the step from a DB9 to tricycle
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ROFL
George Knighton said:
I think what we both missed was Bonnie Cha of CNET telling us not to buy it. I didn't see her review until after I bought it.
She didn't exactly say not to buy it, but there was a lot of hinting between the lines.
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The only reason she was hinting to, was that $800 is a god-damn-it price for a handset.
But when it comes for the quality and capabilities, she was giving her big WoW's
And i NEVER had bad reception, YET i'm enjoying HSPDA most of the time
Reception depends on many things.
Sometimes I get little problems inside buildings but had nothing to compare.
I must say X1 is fine on receiption aspect...
I'm on ATT with an X1a and I get dropped calls all day no matter where I am in the SF Bay Area. Even my iPhone 3G has better signal than this phone (at least it holds calls). Pretty sad. Anyone try the Raphael radios with any luck?
Wow, I hope i'm not jinxing myself...but my reception is excellent...im in NYC on att...very few problems..I think i've had 2 dropped calls ever.
x1 is king
try this one ......new xperia radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506034
I heard that the Radio Antenna in the X1 is installed in the lower Area so your Palm may interfer with Radio Reception. I have no proof on that Theorie since i have great recpetion everywhere i go, but maybe this info helps
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I heard that the Radio Antenna in the X1 is installed in the lower Area so your Palm may interfer with Radio Reception. I have no proof on that Theorie since i have great recpetion everywhere i go, but maybe this info helps
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i have noticed this and think it may have something to do with when i text i lose signal completely
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i have noticed this and think it may have something to do with when i text i lose signal completely
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I can confirm this to be true that the antenna is located to the bottom of the phone on the same area which houses the *very* small speaker...(i took apart my x1 just to be curious )
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I can confirm this to be true that the antenna is located to the bottom of the phone on the same area which houses the *very* small speaker...(i took apart my x1 just to be curious )
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there is a youtube video of someone taking apart there phone to see the chips etc. saves u opening your own phone

TD2 to Pure or x1a, is it worth switching?

Hi guys, I'm currently using Diamond2 that I bought from Asia. So far there's nothing wrong with this phone and I liked it a lot.
However, my TD2 eats UMTS 900/2100 which is not compatible with 850/1900 that Rogers (from Canada) is providing. Hence I only have access to 2G/EDGE/GPRS and not 3G.
So, right now I'm thinking of two ways to get me on Rogers' 3G network:
Sell my TD2 (or simply pass it on to someone in my family) then buy a AT&T Pure from the US, or
Buy a Sony Ericsson x1a for 99.99 CAD (w/ 3yr contract) from Rogers then flash a ROM with Manila 2.5 in it
Either way I'll be spending around $100 CAD (sell low buy high for TD2)
I've done some research on Touch HD and HD2 (from Telstra) too, but I think the sizes are too big to fit into my jean's pocket nicely.
So what do you guys think? Any advices and suggestions?
PS: I just found a housing that is seems to be able to convert Pure into TD2
http://cgi.ebay.com/R999-Hot-Housing-Faceplate-black-for-AT-T-HTC-Pure_W0QQitemZ250574281543QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a57641b47
Hmm...
Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
I have the Pure and am currently running Duttys Holy Grail R7, and am digging it. Aesthetics are crap compared to the TD2.
Here's the thing though, and maybe its just me, but I ran my phone on EDGE for a good while, and noticed little real world difference in speed when compared to 3G. Maybe I'm just more patient then most, but if you already have a TD2, why pay more for the same phone? If you wanna buy a new handset, get a NEW handset, right?
Of course, if you do, I'd love to hear how that shell replacement goes. I don't think it'll work because the buttons on the Pure are different than the TD2, but what do I know?
I owned the X1 before and purchase Pure from Att recently as a cheap replacement since the digitizer went bad (but fixed myself now). I may a bit bias since I so used to my X1. But there are quite many advantages on X1 that make me missed my X1 so much in the period on using the Pure.
Here is the my order:
1. Hardware buttons!!! X1 has many more buttons for you to use (combine with AE button plus to give you a lot more functionality). Camera, left & right soft key, OK, Panel, and 5 ways optical buttons. They are especially handy when using X1 while driving (don't try it at home. ). Optical button make scrolling between song list extremely easy.
2. 3.5mm audio jack. Need me to say more? (Don't forget it works as TMC antenna too!)
3. keyboard. Typing is much easier on X1.
4. flashlight as torch.
5. U may notice I am a rom cook as well. At the moment, I still can't make iGo8's TTS works with under WM6.5 if Manila 2.5 is active (probably due to memory issue). A very similar build works on X1.
Here are the cons on X1.
1. Crack issue is real!!!
2. No G-sensor means I can't play teether.....
3. I like the flat screen on D2. The gap between the frame and the LCD traps many dirt on my X1..
Thanks for you guys' inputs
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Well I'm already regretting locking myself into a 2-yr contract with the Death Star (AT&T) down here in the States, so a 3 yr contract sounds scary as hell.
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This is not a problem for me because I've been using Rogers for more than 10 years, so right now Rogers is offering me a very discounted deal. If I want to move out of Canada or change carrier, I can just sell my plan to someone else.
To jackleung:
Before I bought my TD2, I was comparing it with x1 (no x1a at that moment). I've taken account of the pros and cons you've listed so that's why I chose TD2. But if I'm gonna buy a new x1a, I'll still be keeping my old TD2 (x1a for Canada, TD2 when I go back to Taiwan).
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So far my money is leaning towards the x1a because I'm not sure if I can live with the AT&T version of Topaz (some say it is very hard to convert the housing/shell) and jackleung reminded me the benefits that x1 has.
Anyways, I think I'll phone Rogers to see if they still have x1a in Vancouver area. Thanks again people.
Not worth it
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
htc fan89 said:
x1a is very laggy, and has many issues, example keyboard will get dirty, since there's a gap. Even the new x2 is lagging, so, I would say no.
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This is nonsense. Spec of X1, D2 is almost identical. Custom roms makes a lot different on both X1 and D2.

Noob Questions, sorry in advance!

So, I am getting bored with my iphone 4... and feel like tinkering again. I loved my nexus one and these forums.... now I am thinking about getting a desire hd (my biggest concern is, it will NOT run on 3g on my network - rogers).
I am hoping and assuming I can get by with wifi and 2g.... if that phone is that good and fun.....
Will 2.3 get on this device... as soon as these guys get their hands on it?
How is the battery life? Is it easy to change the battery (buy spares etc)
Any input would be appreciated. thx
**updating this a bit: So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I live in the states and I don't even notice it missing 3G. I'm mostly on wi-fi, and when I'm not, 2G is enough to not care it's not 3G. The phone is worth it for me. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone right now, not even MyTouch 4G which I could have, but the DHD is to awesome. I have it now just over a week, and the battery lasts a solid day and a half, and it keeps getting better each charge. I could probably get two days if I needed to. FroYo 2.2 is all I need, so I'm not concerned when it will get GB, but I assume soon after it's release, seeing how this is a flagship phone. I say get it, and you won't regret it.
Oh, and as far as changing the battery, it's not that hard once you get the hang of how the cover comes off and on. Same with the sim/antenna cover, and if you do happen to break them, HTC already has them on their site, so you can buy more if you need to. Once you remove the battery cover the battery actually just falls out. It's held in by the cover, so once you remove it, be careful not to drop the battery out without having your hand there to catch it.
thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx
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thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx
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DHD = Desire HD, I will be mad if you get the DHD before me. (just kidding haha)
Don't worry too much about 2.3, there will probably be a way on here (xda) for you to flash to it when it comes out anyway.
Won the auction, I should have it by wed at the latest
He claimed there was a 3g fix out there somewhere, but that makes no sense... if it does not use the band....
but he has a utube video out there, using the htc telus hero on rogers w/3g.... the hero and the desire use the same bands right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWEAfJ_DxZc
up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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Nope you can't, that's the Hero he got from Telus which have the North American band ...it's nothing special. However, the Desire HD have the Global frequency, 900, 2100.
Rogers, bell, telus are using 850, 1900
that sucks, 2g blows..... I mean, really... if I am going to focus on wifi, I won't even need a data plan.... unless they release a new desire hd for telus
but I do love my rogers retention plan
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So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again
I wonder if 3g matter that much though ... but to answer your question, I would say leave it untouched.
well, I do use a fair amount of data via 3g... approx 300 mb a month.... 2g is almost unusable in comparison.... I will get it and play with it and see how I like it.... but without 3g, makes me sad, lol
thx
Desire HD Coming
OMG. I just ordered my DHD today so hopefully i should get it in about a week's time. No more uTube watching for me when you've got the real thing to play with.
got mine today and put the otterbox on it! I highly recommend the case....
however, I could not get my rogers "2g" to work.... I hope it is just me being new to android, I know 2g is garbage.... but atleast it would still work for email etc.... I was told it would work on this phone?
Any ideas
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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figured as much, will call them tomorrow. thx
Phone is pretty sweet overall..... but a few odd things I noticed so far, the camera is "off".... if I point at a bright yellow piece of paper, it appears white....
the colors seem washed in comparison to the ip4, the dual led flashlight is not as bright as the ip4s single (not a fanboy - just stating the obvious)...... I been playing with it for atleast 4 hours, battery life seems pretty good overall, all things considered.

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