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GOT XDA EXEC TODAY...BUT BOY WAS IT DIFFICULT

I was told on Sunday that the XDA EXEC was coming out on Monday 26th September at 8:30am.
As soon as i got to work i checked the O2 site not there, i nearly cried.. any way i rang at 8:30 they told me that it hadnt been put onto there system yet ..and asked me to ring back at 13:00, i did and now they tell me that its been put back by a week now iam angry and blowing steam and demand to speak to a manager and he says the same......
Now my heads spinning and im really stressed out,,,,i chill out for a couple of hours and i for some reason i check the O2 Business Site and there it is for SALE i rubb my eyes in disbelief and i ring immediately and get my company to Buy it for me...
£199.99 + vat device
tarriff £17.00/month + vat
100 x minutes
20 text
1mb data
50p a minute video calls but i will change this later with a bolt on..
when i came home this evening the XDA EXEC has dissapeared from site i did speak to someone this evening at O2 and he couldnt belief i actually got one, and they have sold there first wave of Business orders so i was bloody lucky.. next stock i was told is on Thursday but tread carefully and checked site very rugularly and be prepared to do battle with O2 toget one.. most sales advisors havnt a glue whats going on..
Peace out..

I am in disbelief, but then o2 is soooo disjointed it's possible!. One hand doesn't know what the others doing :wink: enjoy it anyhow, lucky sod!

I saw that same info on business site, but when I called the rep told me that you could noe order so I gave up... :evil: NOW I AM JUST FREAKING MADDDD! :wink: oh well, I guess it was not my luck today...Hey fanacreonte2804, maybe you can buy one for me sesing you're the MAN?

Well played.
Post pics when it arrives. Trying to decide whether it's worth selling my JasJar and getting an O2 Exec on contract.

fanacreonte2804 said:
I was told on Sunday that the XDA EXEC was coming out on Monday 26th September at 8:30am.
As soon as i got to work i checked the O2 site not there, i nearly cried.. any way i rang at 8:30 they told me that it hadnt been put onto there system yet ..and asked me to ring back at 13:00, i did and now they tell me that its been put back by a week now iam angry and blowing steam and demand to speak to a manager and he says the same......
Now my heads spinning and im really stressed out,,,,i chill out for a couple of hours and i for some reason i check the O2 Business Site and there it is for SALE i rubb my eyes in disbelief and i ring immediately and get my company to Buy it for me...
£199.99 + vat device
tarriff £17.00/month + vat
100 x minutes
20 text
1mb data
50p a minute video calls but i will change this later with a bolt on..
when i came home this evening the XDA EXEC has dissapeared from site i did speak to someone this evening at O2 and he couldnt belief i actually got one, and they have sold there first wave of Business orders so i was bloody lucky.. next stock i was told is on Thursday but tread carefully and checked site very rugularly and be prepared to do battle with O2 toget one.. most sales advisors havnt a glue whats going on..
Peace out..
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So i'm confused. Do you have one in your hands, or is it 'on the way'?

Called the non-web based o2 Contract line (0870 5860860) 3 times yesterday and kept getting told to ring back. This morning I have been told that the date has been put back to Monday 3 October 2005.
What makes me think that any domestic stock has been redirected to the business side of things :evil:

Spoke To O2 Last Night on Normal Custoer Services and they say it is now available

Just rung the number shown above, 402 select, business o2 and all say 3rd October and not before.
What number did you try?

Just spoke to contract services, and no, its not available till 3rd, and its not on system. He did admit somebody had spotted it on the website but says he doubts that if they ordered it they will get it before anyone ordering next week and possibly will need to re-order.
Looks like we all need to wait.
Oh, and just to make sure I get it first, O2 said it was delayed by a month and for NONE OF YOU to call untill November ok?

I have just put the phone down from O2 Marketing Director. Sadly, the XDA Exec's were involved in a fatal accident and therefore will not be available until 1st December.
For more information ring O2 Mid October for an update.
LOL... just kidding

Got tired of all the major network providers mucking me & the rest of us about. My wife agreed to me finally buying a JasJar in Tottenham Court road today at Inkino Ltd. They really are a nice set of people and very professional. They certainly will get my recommendation!
Just charging my new toy :lol: It's actually much more appealing to the eye than any photo I've seen of it. Well, there's undoubtedly nothing for me to report as you've all read the posts in this forum, but I will share solutions to problems encountered, as I come across them. Thanks to Xda developers, I feel well prepared and well informed. Thanks to all of you. & Thanks to my wife for putting up with my technoholic tendancies 8) Well she has ended up with my i-mate jam after all and is thoroughly loving it!

Im afraid if I spent that much on the JasJar my wife would go into premature labour (after killing me), so i have no choice but to wait for the major carriers.
I may end up getting two and selling one to these eager US people who cant get it as im due an upgrade for wifes tarif as well as taking out new one for me.
Looks like ill get one on o2 upgrade, then take out the T-mobile 100meg data tarif with the Universal as the phone.
Still at least a week to wait, but hell, if it was nokia it would be 6 months more, be obsolete when it was released and anyone that bought it would be ****** off at the fact 4 days later nokia release a better "i" version for less money.

The actual story of what happened with o2 (because I went through the same thing on Monday) is, according to the business Supervisor:
On Mon 26 Sep it was released by their I.T. department onto the business site by mistake.
Thousands of customers ordered it through the site and from the phone line who had taken this to mean it was available.
Once the mistake was realised, the person responsible in I.T. was fired and all orders stopped. Mine was in fact cancelled by them, without them telling me.

I was out and about today so decided to pop in to a few mobile phone shops and see what the story 'out on the street' was.
Vodafone
Never heard of the Universal or any of its derivatives.
O2
Got a new (October) catalogue out with the Exec listed at £150 on a 200 min contract. Expecting stock 'sometime this month'. Video calls on 3G will now be chargeable (to other networks) and data prices are now higher.
Orange
Had a dummy phone in store! Didn't know anything about availability or price though. In fact, had never seen it before.
So, there you go. Another week...

Some T-Mobile stores also have the dummy phone. It fits nicely in a front jeans pocket, and isn't as heavy as I expected! Also the keyboard is quite usable, even with my larger than average fingers!
And you know what they say about men with large fingers...

hey can u post the ext rom on ftp???
tia

CJSnet said:
Some T-Mobile stores also have the dummy phone. It fits nicely in a front jeans pocket, and isn't as heavy as I expected! Also the keyboard is quite usable, even with my larger than average fingers!
And you know what they say about men with large fingers...
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After finally holding one in my hand today I must admit how much smaller and better built it was than what I was expecting. All this fuss about it being too big - rubbish says I!

The o2.co.uk Website has moved the XDAi & XDAs to the end of the phones webpage leaving a nice little gap for the third in the current range on Monday???

XDA Exec Mobiles4everyone.com
Still no sign this am on O2 but Mobiles4everyone are offering Execs - whether or not for imediate delivery I don't yet know. Others are offering too. Cheers, Derek

That's great, and I like the pricing too.
But I can't find any of the other places you mention.
Let's try and get a list going here of:
* The best deals
* Those who have it in stock and offer quick delivery

SPV M5000 in Orange October Magazine

They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..

Yay, I like Orange. I played with the Demo in their shop, its actualy a good dummy phone, close to the real thing.
Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
Its in their catalogue, you can buy £4 for 4meg for the month, or £1 a day for all you want. Thats the best gprs deal ive seen anywhere, including most of the contracts.

£1 a day for all day!? sounds interesting!
thanks for the info.

JonathanCassar said:
They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..
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Last time i rang them (which has been quite a lot over the last few weeks) they said it would be November when it was coming out..... getting so impatient now, been holding off getting a new phone for months to get this!

spoke to oramge in paddington station, and there is an offer where you get 1gig a month fo 3 month, which is great, but then after that you are down to 25 megs for 25 quid or something. they weren't able to offer anything in between.

The 1 gig for three months is a standard offer on all new contracts, its to get you "hooked" on data so they can then sell you loads.
They do sell bundles on their 'data' tarifs, and not too bad, about £25 for 65meg i think.

guys iv been with orange for donkey years and get my devices free on an upgrade (pda's etc) but this time im going to get the o2 exec pro, i know i know same spec etc but the o2 device (to me) just looks great!!!
whats your opinions on the looks for the devices jasjar the m5000 and the rest what looks the best??
p.s orange upgrades told me today it could be 18 oct if were lucky or nov, but thats orange for ya, always last to provide

as far as looks go,
The VPA IV i havent seen in person but it looks plain white to me
not that appealing, it just looks like a gameboy ds, not professional at all
The MDA Pro looks smart with the (almost) aluminium appearance
not the best looking phone of the lot but theres worse (see above)
The SPV M5000 has a gunmetal finish
i guess it can be appealing, its not as good looking as the MDA in my opinion
but they are close
to me though its a tie between the Jasjar and the XDA Exec in terms of sheer appearance, the black simply looks far more professional, and in my opinion far less of a toy (like the VPA), the only thing that clinches it between the 2 is the blue backlight on the keys of the XDA Exec. It's all down to preferance in the end, but that's mine

quiltfish << NICE JIBE :twisted: at the m2000, mate i couldnt agree more! lol :lol: i dont need a gun to defend my self iv got the m2000
just orded myo2 exec online cant wait till i get my hands on it!

I received a phone call today from a company (I can't remember their name) offering me a Free upgrade phone if I stay with Orange.
When I mentioned that I was only interested in the SPV M5000, he looked it up on his system and said that it had failed the testing by Orange and won't be available until February.
He didn't try to sell me an alternative, so I don't believe he was saying it to get me to choose another phone.
I hope he has got it wrong, but who knows. (Orange CS certainly don't) :?

I rang orange this afternoon and they told me it was just finishing the testing and would be ready for the end of the month!
I'm sure these people just pick a phrase out of a hat and say whatever it says!

If Orange mess about much more, i'll give up my 7 year relationship with them and move on..... I never can understand why they are always the last to release new phones!

drummer
>>> thats sales guys talking outa his ass. They will be releasing it as th chap here inoranges store has the device and let me have a play with it- the only issue he reported is that bcauses Oranges 3g Coverage is so poor customers will mainly be using 2g unless they are in a strong signal area(which are limited)but i guess they have to prove to the market that as always they are the last ones to bring out devices-mate iv been with orange contract for 7 donkey years and even though iwork for Vdafone I kept my main contractwith Orange as you know, you get used to having something around for so long(ABIT LIKE THE MISSES :lol: -- scrap that o shel kick my head in! :shock:
and my bills on average of 70-100 a month so all my upgrades i get for free (m2000) so i calld them and asked what they can do as my upgrades due in march they said they will let me upgrade in dec the earliset and they will give me the m5000 free- BUT i cant wait that long an as i prefar the look of the XDA-exec iv just orded that with O2 online and when i get my m5000 im floging it for a healthy profit
and guys they are going to offer you the 18 month contracts when you try to upgrade as being the best thing since a micro wave! but becarefull-catches : you can not upgrade for 18 months! and your phones warrenty period isonly for 12 months! soon though 12 month contrats will be phased out. Vodfone strated itandORangeo2 have followed suit.
shame

JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case

N2h said:
JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case
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It's very very difficult, but here goes.
READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL!

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READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL![/quote]<<<<<<<<
WHAT A ****ING TWAT! YEH THATS YOU "Southern_Man"
LISTEN PRICK WATCH YOUR ****ING LANGUAGE, OK ASSHOLE WHEN YOU SELECT BASIC OPTION ON INSTALLATION IT STILL INSTALLS THE "****ING FILES" TO YOUR DEVICE-SO RETARD KEEP YOUR ****ING OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!
AND IF YOUR PREPARED TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE ABUSE WHEN THERE NO NEED TAKE THAT JUNK THAT YOU CALL A PDA AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT SHINE"! ****!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I had a nice prepaid subscription with an upstarting provider back when I lived in Oslo. Free gprs/mms without any limitations whatsoever. My counter stopped on 4gigs after being online for a year but I think that's probably an error on the programme's side. Or?

Arctura >>
your one lucky guy!! lol
i dont think you should call your service provider to discuss this oversight!
its a shame we cant get a fluke like that with the uk networks

Pyrofer said:
Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
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wow... that is brilliant - thanks very much for pointing that out - you've probably saved me a fortune
i've got an O2 xda exec, but have ordered myself a £1 orange sim for those days when i know i've got a long train journey
(if anyone else is interested - see http://www.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_costs.html#more_Extras)

Thinking of getting the vario 2

whats it like as multimedia player.
can it handle movies and music files with no problems (apart from the battery running out quicker).
and how editable is windows mobile, ive been with nokia and its so easy to change the look (using themes).
also hows the 2 megapixle cam for recording movies and taking pictures
i just need that extra push before i commit to a 12 month contract with t mobile

bongloid said:
whats it like as multimedia player.
can it handle movies and music files with no problems (apart from the battery running out quicker).
and how editable is windows mobile, ive been with nokia and its so easy to change the look (using themes).
also hows the 2 megapixle cam for recording movies and taking pictures
i just need that extra push before i commit to a 12 month contract with t mobile
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Do it! the Vario II is a fantastic phone... it handles full screen video playback just fine and giving it has Windows Media player on it, compatibility is great!
As a Pocket PC its very customisable... it can be skinned to look like almost anything! so to say... check out Wisbar for example http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/index.php?pg=skins
The camera is good... nothing special but it does the job...
I would say though, once you've gotten used to it... read up on the WM6 posts - it turns a good Vario into an Excellent Vario

sounds great.
one thing im a bit worried about is a long time ago i used to have a one 2 one phone and the reception in my house was terrible, so hopefully T mobile have boosted up their signal since all those years ago. i did the street check for reception in my road and it was 3 bars good covarage
How is the general reception for making and reciving calls on the phone .
also is it easy to get it unlocked so i can swap when i need to my current sim card. (pay as you go vodaphone) just in case because the vodafone signal is so strong here.
thanks again

two words........
street check, that's what TMobile offer BEFORE you buy
and even if the reception is bad, if you upgrade your Radio rom you will see the improvement
Ive had my VarioII for three months and its been brill, especiall with this site!!!
You can soooooooooooooo customize it to your liking like no other phone on the market, its just fab

bongloid said:
sounds great.
one thing im a bit worried about is a long time ago i used to have a one 2 one phone and the reception in my house was terrible, so hopefully T mobile have boosted up their signal since all those years ago. i did the street check for reception in my road and it was 3 bars good covarage
How is the general reception for making and reciving calls on the phone .
also is it easy to get it unlocked so i can swap when i need to my current sim card. (pay as you go vodaphone) just in case because the vodafone signal is so strong here.
thanks again
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I'm more than happy with the reception... and like you, my street check was good... also, I think you'll find that t-mobile doesn't sim lock their phone... but in any case, its easy to get over that issue

if your in the UK, look on ebay.
i got 2 for under 180 quid, brand new factory sealed.
do try outbid ppl, some of them are scammers, the seller will resort to selling to the next highest genuie bidder, and that should be you!

The Vario 2 (Tytn) is a very versatile device and there are endless tweaks and themes and I would recommend getting one. I would never be without mine.

can i get vario rom for update

abhishek141 said:
can i get vario rom for update
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Is this guy just posting the same question in every topic on the forum? lol
The Vario is great as a multimedia player - just get something like Coreplayer to use and that will play most types of video. I got stuck in traffic the other day and ended up watching 2 episodes of southpark on my Vario to pass the time
Camera is ok although its not so hot indoors - outside in good light the pics are perfectly acceptable.
Also if you are going with T-Mobile in the UK you can get the web'n'walk deal which means high-speed internet wherever you are.

Got one in the end and im so glad i did
thanks for the advice

just got back from a trip abroad.
I had a heart attack after passing through the Xray machine at check in.
I looked at my phone and the screen was totally screwed up. most of the colour was reversed and just was unreadable.
I think it must have had something to do with the magnet on the leather case the phone comes with and the rays from the Xray machine.
i really thought i broke my new toy (2 days in)
after trying to go through the settings on the phone to see if there was anything in there that might help and a few soft resets later it still was screwed.
so i took the magnet from the black case and held it up to the screen and magically it went back to normal.
so be careful going through check in.

Should i go from my Wizard <MDA> to Wing

My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?
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its not a faster proc. it doesnt have more ram. but it operates wm6 much much better than the MDA series. I just upgraded about a month ago and I am enjoying it a lot. The only reason I upgraded was because I cracked my MDA screen on new years eve.
The wing is slimmer, but its more of a left hand user kind of phone. so the choice is really up to you
I still like the MDA better, because it has the email and ie button on the main top of the screen and it was more of a right hander using phone.

I went from an MDA to a WING ... and I LOVE it.

I would say, dont upgrade/downgrade(!) to wing. The processor is same. RAM is still the same. Yeah, the body is slimmer, but, thats it. Also, you ll have to use the ext-usb to sync and charge, unlike the MDA
In short, the answer is NO

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
So should i upgrade?
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i have had my 2 MDAs for almost 2 years. Gave one to my Daughter and she loves it. Got the Wing online for $50.00 after a $50.00 rebate. Only added one line for 1 year. Ported old number over at no cost. In the offer I also got a new Blue Tooth Headset for free. Free shipping, too. Had to signup for the email package at $9.95 per month, but will cancel as soon as I get refund.
Do NOT buy Wing for $280.00 and sign up for a 2 year contract. Really, I am not trying to tell you what to do, just save you some money.
Wing seems to be a little faster when connecting to the Internet. Agree with what others wrote below. If I had to buy at $280.00 and signup for 2 years I would not get the Wing. I still use both my MDA and Wing. Pretty much the same phone IMHO.
Good Luck on whatever you do.

For those of you who said try another phone. What would you recommend? Nothing that I see is really that HOT!

Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?

You can always get a ATT Tilt with contract for less than that. That's way too expensive.

I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..

john94si said:
Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?
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Yeah call that business direct number (cant find it right now---you can search for me though )
and give them promo code "Windows Mobile"
once I get some cash I'll get the Wing, or the Tilt depending on price

Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?

john94si said:
I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..
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T-Mobile has the $99.00 plan just like all the rest of the companies.

Nah, stay with the MDA
Inside, the Wing and MDA are identical: same processor, same RAM, same ROM. I'm personally considering getting an MDA even though I have a Wing(I have my reasons). I like how it has the buttons for Internet Explorer and the messaging client above the screen as well as the control for the wireless radio on the left side of the phone. The only upgrades are the fact that the Wing runs Windows Mobile 6 and has a 2 MP camera.

The wing is cool, but I miss the LED flash on the MDA's camera. I used to use it as a little flashlight... MAN that thing came in handy!

john94si said:
Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?
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St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people

well... the wing looks cooler...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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Another Florida resident, huh? NY transplant in Palm Coast here.

The only reason I went from my MDA to a Wing was because the last time my MDA crapped out, they replaced it with a damn Dash. Talk about a downgrade. I lost ALL of the functionality that I had with my MDA such as the touch screen and general overall better feel of the keyboard (for my large hands). So I bit the bullet and went for a new 2 yr contract and a $300 upgrade charge even after a lot of pissing and moaning about how ridiculous it was to replace an MDA with a stupid Dash. Not hating on the Dash cause I'm sure there are plenty of people who like it, I'm just not one of them.
Anyway, to the point of my post. It took me a little while to get used to how the phone now opens on the opposite side than the MDA did. The keyboard has a much better feel to it than the MDA did, other than the location of the two "soft keys" when you have the keyboard open. I have had a few accidental sent messages or menu opens when trying to hit the I or O button or the R or T button. I like the more rubberized feel of the casing. And, since my favorite color is blue, I like the color
Overall I've been pleased with it. I guess I could have spent $100 more and gotten an iPhone, but AT&T can bite me for how much they want to charge for data packages and service. Besides the fact that the iPhone needs a slider and a QWERTY keyboard!

MDA for Wing
Here is another vote...
YES...
I have my old MDA and just got the Wing.
Much Much Much nicer.
and b.mann beat me to the best part..
Call t-mobile and use the
"Windows Mobile" and get it for 50.00
Can't beat that ...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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I'll be at UCF this semester, too!

First impressions on Voda UK from Android noob

Thought I would just give my two pence on the Legend, just got one for the wife, I'm sticking with my Touch Pro2 Didn't see an "I GOT MINE" thread but if there is one I apologise.
The aluminium body is awesome very impressive and handles well
Nice and fast, no choppiness, bluetooth contacts sync (40 or 50 odd) from my TP2 went through faultlessly and easily (no confirming each one, etc) some lack of copy and paste on gmails, weird that it doesn't come up as a "proper" mail account even though the mails come through fine. Had to SMS my wireless key from TP2, then forward the message so I could copy & paste into wireless settings. Sucks a bit, but I'm used to WinMo goodness Wireless connects fine each time. (TP2 is sometimes a bit flakey connecting with all ROMs at least on my AP) Doesn't know what to do with WM notes files but that's to be expected.
On-screen keyboard is a bit too small for my fingers but no probz for the wife.
Capacitive screen takes some getting used to after using my resistive TP2. Fingernails don't work! hehe booo (and no stylus) Screen is very nice to look, seems brighter and "punchier" than my TP2. (think it's OLED?)
GSM signal doesn't seem as good as my TP2, sometimes you will get "emergency calls only" whereas on my TP2 that is much more rare, particularly since the 4.xx radio upgrades. Still early days yet though.
No video calling which is a minor downer since my TP2 has it, also it doesn't seem to tilt sideways although it comes with Teeter (haven't tried that yet tho) wondering if it really has a tilt sensor or not. Guy in the shop thought it didn't. But it does rotate to landscape when it needs to (camera, etc) so no biggie either way.
The optical scrolly dot below the screen is a nice touch. (particularly as she is paranoid about mucking up the screen until we put screen protector on haha)
Good to see VPN support, haven't tried it yet though. I set up IPSEC/L2TP (ie. the way WinMo demands IPSEC) at home so we will see if Android will play ball with that.
Vodafone branding is almost non-existent from what I can see, definitely not the white and red train wreck I was faced with when I got my Voda TP2 haha
No crashes yet although we did have to reset to factory defaults after a gmail signup issue where it set the primary account to something she didn't want (cos it was failing to create account all over the place, ended up creating on a PC) so had to reset the whole thing Still it wasn't that painful as this was in the first hour or two of getting it.
A nice looking phone she's well happy with it, but then she upgraded from an ancient Samsung flip from like 5 years ago haha It's the first time either of us have really played with an Android phone, she's used to dumbphones but is very tech savvy (for a girl haha ) and I've been using PPC / WinMo for over 10 years.
Personally my first impression is I'm glad I have the TP2 wouldn't trade it for the Legend but she's over the moon with it so everyone's happy If I were to place Android in the market based on a few hours of minor fiddling I would place it between WinMo (power users) and iPhone (hairdressers haha ) in terms of ease of use and capabilities. No plans to hack on it, I'll wait till she gets bored of it first
Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.

I've just got this deal too and so far I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!

MadBeef said:
Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.
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Yes please!

Samfau2 said:
I've just got this deal too and so im I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!
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Some tips for you:
1. Show up 15 mins before the shop closes
2. Take a hot chick with you
3. Maybe have a business account with 2 phones already
4. "It comes with x, yeah?"
5. Be cheeky
heheee
I dug the paperwork out and the full details are as follows:
"Free" HTC Legend
100 minutes xnet
500 texts
500 meg data (not listed on receipt but confirmed verbally, I have "VP VMI" on the price plan name, Vodafone Mobile Internet?)
Free case (generic leather vodafone one, £6 worth, she'll change that as I suspect it's not nearly pink or girly enough)
Free screen protectors (the generic vodafone ones u have to cut up, they are a bit crap but will do for now, don't use the mirror ones they make the colours go funny, again she will probably get an invisibleshield or sommet cos she likes mine on the TP2)
Free mobile TV all channels for a month (remember to cancel)
Free 10 tracks a month for one month off the music store (ditto)
Free insurance for a month (may not cancel this ...)
Phone pre-packaged with a memory card, think it's 4 gig
24 month contract
I wasn't giving these guys a hard time at all, salesman was quite happy, it was quite a quick impulse buy although we did a bit of research on the phone and tariffs beforehand. The deal I got was printed up on the wall in the VF store so it's nothing special in that respect. They did mention they were having no problems shifting the Legends
Hope this helps.

That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)

NX3 said:
That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)
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Ah man I tried that cashback thing once (not quidco another one) and it just never came through. Couldn't be arsed chasing them over it. Awesome deal that tho.

Crap! Why didn't i get cashback on this beast?
I think i was just wayyy too excited to actually be getting a decent phone. I've been living with a brick for way too long.
I think voda have the legend exclusively and i had my heart set on it, i think the deal is pretty reasonable though and ive had nothing but great signal, web coverage and service so far.

I'm loving my Legend too, I think it is an absolutely cracking phone. I'm also pleased about the minimal Voda branding, all I see is the splash screen on boot, that's it.
I got 300 mins, unlimited texts and 500mb internet for £20 PCM. I actually went for the £20 PCM deal for 100 mins, etc as it seemed enough and was a good enough deal that I didn't feel it worth haggling but when he phoned up to confirm he quoted me the £25PCM deal for £20! I did the honest thing and said that's not what they originally quoted but he said that now he's accidently quoted it they have to offer it - bit random but hey.

Awesome, lucky you. I'm not likely to use more than my hundred mins but might be pushing it occasionally with the 500 texts, we'll see. Also, I agree its nice to see that Vodafone kept the branding to a minimum.

well mines finally arrived and I'm loving. only slight annoyance is voda haven't provided the update to i can get layer and google goggles apps. i read on vf forums its coming soon though.
has anyone debranded ?

I was also slightly annoyed it didn't have the update. But for free apps like Google goggles you can usually find an apk file on the net and install it using sometimg like astro. Not always the the latest version though and you can't update it. I'll upload goggles for you if you can't find it. Haven't tried for layar.
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