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Got my X1i in U.S. My thoughts...

So,
My X1i arrived from Clove yesterday. It is a thing of beauty, pure and simple.
I got it in silver and it looks like a Vertu with Windows Mobile and touchscreen... ; )
I was a little put off by the fact the box was not sealed, and, there was a scratch on the side of the phone! I am assuming that someone was checking things in the box and did it then.. Not cool...
Keyboard is OK, gets a little taking used to . Not horrible, but not as easy as the 9502/TYTN II/Treo 750. However, It's not a dealbreaker by any means...
Anyways, display is amazing, and, I'm happy to say I get a pretty strong "H" signal here in Chicago. However, if I don't manually set the networks to 850/1900, and leave it on 'Auto" for the band settings, I only get "G" as in gprs. Getting between 600 and 1200kbps on dslreports. The same as with my I-Mate 9502
Build quality is good. Not amazing. There is a little wobble between the keyboard and main display when closed, and the optical joystick rattles around when there is any movement with the phone.
Bought a Tumi phone case yesterday and it fits well.. I'm thinking that the silver is easily scratchable, so I probably have to be careful..
Other than that I think the phone is pretty damn cool. By far the best WM phone I have ever owned.
Feel free to ask any questions...
Dbond
*UPDATE*
For some reason, the signal on my X1 was great the first day, but since then has been pretty shoddy. It fluctuates between 3G, EDGE, and GPRS. The "G" icon actually pops up... I haven't seen that in years... I get less bars than I did with my 9502... Not sure what's going on, if it's a software or hardware issue... Noticed that when I get 1-2 bars on HSDPA and switch to EDGE signal is stronger, but not by much...

WTF! i preorder Silver, and Clove sent me black!
is Silver shinny, like chrome?

Silver is more like gunmetal. Nice, but will scratch very easily.
Did you talk to Clove? I have to e-mail them about the scratch..
How is your HSDPA coverage?

talk to clove about what?
i dont really care what color, i just happy to have X1!
but WTF! i preorder silver, i expect to get silver, not black!
i really perfer Silver, i might sell black X1 and get Silver USA version when available.
HSDPA is great, did 2 speedtest.com/mspeed.com and both time get around 980kb!

Lol @ dbond. Moving from a 9502 to the Xperia. You might be as nuts as me paying way too much out of pocket for phones. Hopefully the Xperia will be a much better experience (no pun intended) for you than the 9502 has been for the average owner. I'd love to try out an X1, but I'm still gunshy after dumping so much cash on the 9502.

motionmind said:
Lol @ dbond. Moving from a 9502 to the Xperia. You might be as nuts as me paying way too much out of pocket for phones. Hopefully the Xperia will be a much better experience (no pun intended) for you than the 9502 has been for the average owner. I'd love to try out an X1, but I'm still gunshy after dumping so much cash on the 9502.
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LOL
Motionmind,
Yes, I dumped a crapload of cash on (2) 9502's Sold my first, then rebought it after my 3rd TYTN II didn't cut it. Got used to the VGA screen. Before that it was the Eten X800 and M800...
The X1i is awesome, but, I didn't think the 9502 was all that bad, especially after the 6.1 upgrade. Actually, liked it quite a bit, but, couldn't resist the X1.
IMHO, X1i is dope, but 9502 isn't far behind, especially if you know how to tweak it....
Wait till the price drops on the X1i, then get it...
Even though I'm broke, I'm keeping the 9502... Still the first phone I used that lived up to the hype...

good stuff dbond what service you using it with it would be nice if you could tell the x1 when you want it to use the hsdpa or switch back to edge. Like if your using an messanger use edge cuz you don't need a fast connection for that and then when your browsing the net it switches to hsdpa so you get what you need to get and get off line
i really want the x1i in sliver
it would be great if you made an invisible shield for it
the 9502 looks like a nice phone it kinda reminds me of a sidekick

dbond45 said:
LOL
Wait till the price drops on the X1i, then get it...
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Meh...I'm waiting for the Fuze. The x1 screen is just too small for me to care that it's WVGA. Now, if they'd hurry and get a Touch HD Pro out the door, I'll have to have a serious argument with my wallet.

Guys,
One thing I've noticed is that with both HSDPA and EDGE, my signal is weak... Worse than TYTN II and I-Mate 9502...
The phone switches automatically to HSDPA and EDGE, You can choose either or, but not when to "switch" on a dime...
Motionmind, Fuze is gonna be dope!

I meant to ask you dbond...I know the X1 screen is recessed but how does it compare to the 9502? Ie...recessed more or less than that?

Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.

contaygious said:
Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.
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The x1 version has 850.

motionmind said:
I meant to ask you dbond...I know the X1 screen is recessed but how does it compare to the 9502? Ie...recessed more or less than that?
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I'd say the screen on the X1 is slightly less recessed, and has sharper edges overall...

motionmind said:
The x1 version has 850.
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850 GSM maybe, but not UMTS. Only the X1a has that. This has fairly much been confirmed now.

Scott Whitmore said:
850 GSM maybe, but not UMTS. Only the X1a has that. This has fairly much been confirmed now.
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Not according to PocketNow...
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=24649

contaygious said:
Do you still recommend silver? I want that one too because I thought maybe black would scratch and show silver underneath. I am waiting for the x1a version because I need 850.
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i really perfer silver, and i preordered Silver. but clove sent me black! WTF!

motionmind said:
Not according to PocketNow...
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=24649
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if you read that thread you'll see it's mostly BS and everything SE have said will suggest that it doesn't have it. I'm sure there is a thread somewhere for this.

have any of you comparetd the Xperia to the Fuze. I guess the Fuze isn't quite out yet. I'm on my 5th HTC device but I want a bigger screen but with a keyboard.
Anyone know when the X1a will be out?

Touch HD in vegas. . .

Yea, I am looking around the internet and I am wondering where is the best place to get one?
Also, how are edge speeds with it? Vegas has a solid 3G network, but I am wondering how is edge on it?
Hmm, any local Vegans' have any incite? Thanks.
I want this phone so bad, the LG Shine is crap. . .

http://www.phonesource-usa.com/
I've purchased from them in the past so I recommend them. They don't have the HD listed on their site but I'd bet they'll get it for you as they've done that for me in the past. Also, they let me pick up the phone I purchased.

Hmm, what about the reception question?

Check out clove technology. I was watching the HD review on pocketnow.com and they mentioned buying one from them. I live in Texas and have been in contact with them. I am really REALLY wanting this phone and am willing to jump ship to t-mobile, just to use this phone.......sprint is starting to lag behind in the phone selection, figuring as though i have the Vogue, had the Diamond, and own the Touch Pro.

(Texan here) i also purchased from Clove Technology...if they have it in stock and you order on Monday, you'll have it no later than Friday. might arrive sooner if it's not held in customs; be sure to ask Clove to include the FCC ID number on the customs form and it should clear customs the same day it arrives in the US.

Ok, thanks. I wont have this little puppy for a while since I need to congure up the money. . .lol. . .
800 bucks, how long can that take?

~~Tito~~ said:
Ok, thanks. I wont have this little puppy for a while since I need to congure up the money. . .lol. . .
800 bucks, how long can that take?
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in vegas, it shouldn't take long to conjure up $800. in fact, the returns on my weekend college football investments funded my HD purchase!

I'm 15. . .lmao. . .
GAh. . .

dang cortez I need to get with you lol on what you be doing I wouldn't mind finding a way to fund my HD mowing yards down here in my part of texas sucks lol

Ok, actually getting the HD aside:
How good is it in vegas?

redrazr7791 said:
dang cortez I need to get with you lol on what you be doing I wouldn't mind finding a way to fund my HD mowing yards down here in my part of texas sucks lol
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lol... keep in mind that i've had a few 0-based and negative returns from my "investments" as well. best time of year for my investments is in the next few weeks. know of any new toys on the horizon? anyone?

its all good man you win some you loose some...im still interested though lol. have you seen the new HTC 4g?

Edge and HSDPA coverage are both good in vegas. I rarely have a dropped call. You should have good edge coverage anywhere you go. No 3g with the HD but I used it for a week in vegas before I switched to the xperia and had excellent edge coverage.
I switched because, for me, the lack of HSPA was taking a big step backwards and the xperia fit in my pocket better. The screen is physically smaller on the xperia but the resolution is the same and running TF3D is just as snappy.

Weak 3g signal in my apartment

Every time im home i am stuck on edge network, but once i step outside im hooked up with 3g. Is there anyway i could boost the signal to where i could have 3g in my apartment? Reason being, im currently unemployed so i shut off my cable and Internet. So i use my G1 as a tether through USB since my computer doesn't have wifi. Its the only way i can look for work, and since i only drive to and from interviews i try to conserve as much gas as possible. Its just web browsing on my G1 through edge network does the trick, its just a tad slow for my liking.
i have thought about this lil item
http://www.1800mobiles.com/stick-on-antenna-booster.html
But i dont want to throw away some cash if that dont work. Im open to suggestions, i even moved my whole living room around to where my desk is near a window.
Thanks again

Not even going to bother readin your post, clicked the link. Dumb sticker.
Didn't work on my old school Nokia with the original Snake game.
Won't work for a g1.
It's a scam, It'ls bull****, it's garbage.

Yea those stickers don't do anything, save your money.

I tried to buy one for my old moto and it didn't do anything.

Doesn't anyone have any helpful suggestions?
I was wondering if there's some app that can tell you the direction of the closest 3G cell tower so you can try to get as clear a line to it as poss?
Would it be possible to use one of those parabolic cradboard cutouts coated in tin foil to help direct the signal towards the nearest mast, like the ones you can use for wireless range boosting?
Cheers

Post pics of your tin foil contraption lol, But on the real, there are devices that can boost cellular signals, usually used in large office buildings to provide reception. They cost a few hundred dollars, I don't know how much your willing to spend. I seen them at tigerdirect.com if your interested in looking.
btw, use "cellfinder" from the market to find location of towers

Has anyone worked with something like this?
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=19478&cat=3682
Figured i could put this by my windows where my desk is, so my g1 could get an amp'ed up signal. I also went to Tmo web site and looked up coverage in my area, and i should have full 3g all around me no worries. I even tested this out by walking out to my patio and voila....3g but once i come back in ......edge

1NfE5T said:
Has anyone worked with something like this?
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=19478&cat=3682
Figured i could put this by my windows where my desk is, so my g1 could get an amp'ed up signal. I also went to Tmo web site and looked up coverage in my area, and i should have full 3g all around me no worries. I even tested this out by walking out to my patio and voila....3g but once i come back in ......edge
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that looks as promising as the boost sticker...heres the real deal:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1829800&CatId=4977

phatmanxxl said:
that looks as promising as the boost sticker...heres the real deal:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1829800&CatId=4977
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Yea...about that. As my first post stated...im currently unemployed ATM, and living off of unemployment, side work(im an electrician), and side work building computer's. This item is a bit to much on my limited funds, im looking for a cheaper way or even a DITY type job i can build to boost my signal here at home.

I understand I'm in the same boat but without umemp. Im makin money mowin lawns and appliance repair right now, thank god I have a rich girlfriend lol. I'm just sayin those things look like junk, not to be rude.
You could always get a external usb wifi antenna and hope some one within range has an unsecured router, just an idea. Its worked for me in a number of residential places. Youd be suprised how many people don't secure their routers. That's money better spent than some novelty cell booster.

phatmanxxl said:
I understand I'm in the same boat but without umemp. Im makin money mowin lawns and appliance repair right now, thank god I have a rich girlfriend lol. I'm just sayin those things look like junk, not to be rude.
You could always get a external usb wifi antenna and hope some one within range has an unsecured router, just an idea. Its worked for me in a number of residential places. Youd be suprised how many people don't secure their routers. That's money better spent than some novelty cell booster.
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No doubt......im all bout saving some cash...even more now with Xmas around the corner. But in a bit of surprise, after i had drank a beer. I put my phone on top of the empty beer can......i have 3g connection weird as it may seem. I guess if i want a steady 3g signal in my apt....i must drink a brew.

awsome! there's your contraption lol, quick get it patented and then you can sell it as a cell booster among the others and make that $$

Better than the 10cent deposit refund =p

If you still wanna try that sticky antennas get it from ebay - you get it for about a dollar, shipped!
I have 2 on my G1 - not sure if it does any good but at least the number of dropped calls decreased in my apt with weak signals.

srismart said:
If you still wanna try that sticky antennas get it from ebay - you get it for about a dollar, shipped!
I have 2 on my G1 - not sure if it does any good but at least the number of dropped calls decreased in my apt with weak signals.
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Well i havent had any dropped calls from within my apt, just stuck on edge network. But in all honestly the 16oz beer can trick really works, my g1 sits on my desk connected with the USB with full bars and 3g

Noob Questions, sorry in advance!

So, I am getting bored with my iphone 4... and feel like tinkering again. I loved my nexus one and these forums.... now I am thinking about getting a desire hd (my biggest concern is, it will NOT run on 3g on my network - rogers).
I am hoping and assuming I can get by with wifi and 2g.... if that phone is that good and fun.....
Will 2.3 get on this device... as soon as these guys get their hands on it?
How is the battery life? Is it easy to change the battery (buy spares etc)
Any input would be appreciated. thx
**updating this a bit: So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again

I live in the states and I don't even notice it missing 3G. I'm mostly on wi-fi, and when I'm not, 2G is enough to not care it's not 3G. The phone is worth it for me. I wouldn't trade it for any other phone right now, not even MyTouch 4G which I could have, but the DHD is to awesome. I have it now just over a week, and the battery lasts a solid day and a half, and it keeps getting better each charge. I could probably get two days if I needed to. FroYo 2.2 is all I need, so I'm not concerned when it will get GB, but I assume soon after it's release, seeing how this is a flagship phone. I say get it, and you won't regret it.
Oh, and as far as changing the battery, it's not that hard once you get the hang of how the cover comes off and on. Same with the sim/antenna cover, and if you do happen to break them, HTC already has them on their site, so you can buy more if you need to. Once you remove the battery cover the battery actually just falls out. It's held in by the cover, so once you remove it, be careful not to drop the battery out without having your hand there to catch it.

thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx

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thx, yea... I kind of just want to try the beast, lol.... just to be stupid, what is dhd? I have not researched the phone yet... I just see one in canada on ebay... ends in 9 hours, thinking about bidding on it..... I just like trying new phones, if you have any more input, it is much appreciated
thx
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DHD = Desire HD, I will be mad if you get the DHD before me. (just kidding haha)
Don't worry too much about 2.3, there will probably be a way on here (xda) for you to flash to it when it comes out anyway.

Won the auction, I should have it by wed at the latest
He claimed there was a 3g fix out there somewhere, but that makes no sense... if it does not use the band....
but he has a utube video out there, using the htc telus hero on rogers w/3g.... the hero and the desire use the same bands right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWEAfJ_DxZc

up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?

Mr.Kakarot said:
up for this youtube video, if these phones use the same band/freq.... does that mean I can make it work on rogers via 3g?
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Nope you can't, that's the Hero he got from Telus which have the North American band ...it's nothing special. However, the Desire HD have the Global frequency, 900, 2100.
Rogers, bell, telus are using 850, 1900

that sucks, 2g blows..... I mean, really... if I am going to focus on wifi, I won't even need a data plan.... unless they release a new desire hd for telus
but I do love my rogers retention plan

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So, I thought this would at least work on 3g with telus new network..... if that is not the case, I might just sell the phone.... even though I ordered the otterbox and higher capacity battery! My question is, am I better off leaving and selling the phone as is mint and untouched (sim free phone). Or would the value be better rooted? thx again

I wonder if 3g matter that much though ... but to answer your question, I would say leave it untouched.

well, I do use a fair amount of data via 3g... approx 300 mb a month.... 2g is almost unusable in comparison.... I will get it and play with it and see how I like it.... but without 3g, makes me sad, lol
thx

Desire HD Coming
OMG. I just ordered my DHD today so hopefully i should get it in about a week's time. No more uTube watching for me when you've got the real thing to play with.

got mine today and put the otterbox on it! I highly recommend the case....
however, I could not get my rogers "2g" to work.... I hope it is just me being new to android, I know 2g is garbage.... but atleast it would still work for email etc.... I was told it would work on this phone?
Any ideas
thx

You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.

nmyseteroious said:
You need to set the right APN settings. You can call rogers technical support for that. Tell them you have an Android phone, they should be able to walkthrough the steps with you. Or you can google it too.
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figured as much, will call them tomorrow. thx
Phone is pretty sweet overall..... but a few odd things I noticed so far, the camera is "off".... if I point at a bright yellow piece of paper, it appears white....
the colors seem washed in comparison to the ip4, the dual led flashlight is not as bright as the ip4s single (not a fanboy - just stating the obvious)...... I been playing with it for atleast 4 hours, battery life seems pretty good overall, all things considered.

Signal Issues

I got my Vibrant right at launch and I've never had a stable 3g signal. It always seems to go back and forth between 3g and Edge. I always just assumed we didn't have good signal in my area but I now know that isn't true.
I picked up a used G1 to take the camera out of to use at work and loaded it up with updated Radio, SPL, and Rom and it gets a steady 3g signal all the time and also got my wife a Mytouch 4G for Christmas and her phone basically stays on 3g all the time too.
Like right now my phone is sitting next to me on my desk at work and it's on 3g but when I pick it up and click on an app or two it goes back to Edge. Could this be a hardware issue and something I could fix like the hardware GPS fix?
Just to add I currently have Axura 2.2.7 and KA6 modem. I've used every modem that's come out and same issue with all. Thanks for the help.

bump for some help lol.
It's a tough decision because I like this phone so much but not having a reliable 3g signal makes it tough. If worse comes to worse I guess I will have to sell the phone and might go back to the G1 until something else comes out. Still debating on getting a G2 or mytouch but don't want buyers remorse when something better comes out next month.

Call t-mobile and see about a replacement phone. might just be your radio is bad? Or defective phone all together.
That's what I would do.

glfpunk said:
bump for some help lol.
It's a tough decision because I like this phone so much but not having a reliable 3g signal makes it tough. If worse comes to worse I guess I will have to sell the phone and might go back to the G1 until something else comes out. Still debating on getting a G2 or mytouch but don't want buyers remorse when something better comes out next month.
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I had issues like this kinda I live in a hspa area and was having great 3g service 4bars all the time and one day it just would go to edge I called tmo talk to technical support and told them about it they had someone go out and look at the towers by me and they fixed it in 2 days im running 2.2.5.7 with KA6 and have great service still.
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I really don't think there's a tower problem because I get great signal on my G1 and on my wifes mytouch 4g.
I'd love to contact Tmobile about this but I can't see it going anywhere because I've opened my phone and removed the camera. We can't have camera phones at work but we are allowed to remove the camera and replace it with permanent epoxy so that a camera can't be re-installed. Plus I've had the phone since launch.

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I really don't think there's a tower problem because I get great signal on my G1 and on my wifes mytouch 4g.
I'd love to contact Tmobile about this but I can't see it going anywhere because I've opened my phone and removed the camera. We can't have camera phones at work but we are allowed to remove the camera and replace it with permanent epoxy so that a camera can't be re-installed. Plus I've had the phone since launch.
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Where do you work? A secret government lab or something?
Who makes you remove the camera and the epoxy of it? Why don't you just leave your phone at home or in your car then?
Anyways, that sucks. If it's a defective modem/radio you're kind of SOL unless there is a way to mod it?

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Where do you work? A secret government lab or something?
Who makes you remove the camera and the epoxy of it? Why don't you just leave your phone at home or in your car then?
Anyways, that sucks. If it's a defective modem/radio you're kind of SOL unless there is a way to mod it?
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My workplace is the same way. Perhaps the OP and I work for the same company. We of course can't confirm that though... or you know... silent black helicopters and all that will show up...

The men in black suits and dark sunglasses. >.>

Yeah, for your own safety I will not answer that question lol.
Leaving it in a car or at home isn't an option. I get up at 445 and get home from work about 1600, I sleep about 7hrs a night. I didn't pay that much for my high end "mobile" phone to only access it for about six hours out of the day lol. I don't mind not having a camera anyway, I never used it when I did have it.
Looks like I'm screwed on the signal issue. Sucks. So you guys think the Mytouch 4g or G2 would be better? Or is there another phone coming soon to Tmobile I should wait for?

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Yeah, for your own safety I will not answer that question lol.
Leaving it in a car or at home isn't an option. I get up at 445 and get home from work about 1600, I sleep about 7hrs a night. I didn't pay that much for my high end "mobile" phone to only access it for about six hours out of the day lol. I don't mind not having a camera anyway, I never used it when I did have it.
Looks like I'm screwed on the signal issue. Sucks. So you guys think the Mytouch 4g or G2 would be better? Or is there another phone coming soon to Tmobile I should wait for?
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I see..
Welp, if you want to give samsung another go. The Vibrant 4G is rumored to come next month, the 23rd? So if want to wait that long then do it. Otherwise there's always W7 Phones? Or the G2

glfpunk said:
Yeah, for your own safety I will not answer that question lol.
Leaving it in a car or at home isn't an option. I get up at 445 and get home from work about 1600, I sleep about 7hrs a night. I didn't pay that much for my high end "mobile" phone to only access it for about six hours out of the day lol. I don't mind not having a camera anyway, I never used it when I did have it.
Looks like I'm screwed on the signal issue. Sucks. So you guys think the Mytouch 4g or G2 would be better? Or is there another phone coming soon to Tmobile I should wait for?
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There are many new phones coming in the next year - I would hold out a couple of months. (and I'm not talking Vibrant 4G+ )

I might wait a bit then. I can't see myself getting another Samsung. I'd have hung onto the Vibrant for quite a while if it weren't for the signal issues because it's a great piece of hardware. I just don't trust Samsung to keep us updated. Not saying I'll never buy a Samsung phone again but they will have to turn their track record around as far as updating software before I jump back in. HTC seems like a much safer bet although I won't have that pretty screen