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I recenetly purchased the XaX case, with the magnetic fastnings, now im having a dilemma..
when out the case or in the one supplied, everythings hunky dorey
but, when i use the XaX case, the device gets very warm, and the battery drains EXXXXXXTREMLY quickly, like 2hrs on a full charge.
can anyone help me with this, is it sopmething to do with the magnets?
With 3g phones, this is usually an indication of a poor 3g signal, and the phone constantly switching between 3g and 2.5g.
What is your signal like normally, would you have the same issue if the Universal was in an inside coat pocket. I'd imagine for magnets to interfere with a reception in this way, they would have to be pretty strong, but I guess it's not impossible, depending on their location in relevance to the internal antenna.
Does the phone recieve calls ok if inside the case?
Mine did this the other day, the device was very hot and battery was completely flat after about an hour, was on around 60-70% charge when I had last put it down, and it was in the normal supplied case. But I do notice that my 3g does keep coming and going. Someone else suggested this was a camera fault, but I have not been able to repeat this yet despite trying, so I am seeing how it goes, I thought the battery had failed but now I am not so sure.
Regards
Mine did this the other day, the device was very hot and battery was completely flat after about an hour, was on around 60-70% charge when I had last put it down, and it was in the normal supplied case. But I do notice that my 3g does keep coming and going. Someone else suggested this was a camera fault, but I have not been able to repeat this yet despite trying, so I am seeing how it goes, I thought the battery had failed but now I am not so sure.
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i seem to have pretty good signal, and 90% of the time stays in 3G, it just baffles me, as it was ok in the other case (supplied) or in my pocket, yet in the XaX it just fries the batteries... where abouts is the internal attena on the jasjar, on the back half way up?
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i just bought xax magnet case, and have also encounter the same battery draining problem. the only solution i found is if u put the phone in a different way than it was intended. Originally the case was design with the camera facing the SD card slots and the Speaker facing down. However i found if the camera was facing away from the body and having the ear piece side facing the SD holder while the speaker still facing down. The Device will not encounter battery draining problem. With the camera facing u, purely on standby the device will drain about 3-4% every 15 minute and the device will heat up. however if u face the camera away from ur body the battery will only drain 1 % every 15 minute or if any but it will maintain normal temp. these result are based on countless of tests ive conducted. the only down side of the putting the phone in this way is the speaker wont line up properly with the holes which was cut originally but i believe it's a small price to pay for the longer battery life.
I had the none belt version, although I didn't get the battery drain (although to be honest, I didn't have it that long, it's been sent back for a refund) I did find another problem with it.
Push the Universal fully in, so that it is flush, and I find the screen auto rotate to portrait mode regardless :| pull it out 1cm or shove something inbetween the case and the back of the universal and it fine
so decided to get a Piel Frama case instead
bball4life, thanks i owe u big time, ur solution rawked!!
it worked and everything is hunky dorey, must have something to do with the magnets next to the battery
cheers mate
no worry elmo just glade i could help out. i know how it feel when u spend money on a case but it does more than Protect the phone
I just had the heating and battery drain issue yesterday and fortunately found this post.
I have tried the "turn it around" solution and so far so good, though it hasn't been really tested yet.
elmo said:
must have something to do with the magnets next to the battery
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This was my first thought too, but isn't the battery closer to the magnets when the camera is facing out (the solution method) as opposed to in (the "normal" way)?
hmmmmmmmmmmm thats true, maybe it was close the antenna, causing it to keep disrupting the signal. who knows...
any ideas anyone?
My XAX case has 2 holes at the bottom for the speakers so the correct way round is with the battery away from the magnets and speakers showing thru the holes. Well that's the way I think it was meant to be used.
Can't say if my battery life has been shortened but it's not draining perceivably faster, and the XDA is not getting hot.
wOw!!! How bizzare, the EXEC has had its first long time outing today with the new XAX case and it did exactly as what was described in the original post. spent 2 hours on a train hopeing to catch up on some reading of ebooks but couldn't as it just kept draining (return journey i was on 2% even with power levels set to minimum)
Never occured to me that it might be the case. So people reckon its because of the magnets then??? didn't realise that they could affect the battery
I had the XaX case, didn't notice any battery problems, but it fell apart after two days.
The holder just slid off the belt clip.
I'd suggest you all check it, I only just noticed mine slipping in time.
xyon said:
I had the XaX case, didn't notice any battery problems, but it fell apart after two days.
The holder just slid off the belt clip.
I'd suggest you all check it, I only just noticed mine slipping in time.
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Thanks for the heads up! I'll certainly keep an eye on it. Mine still appears very secure and I've had it for a couple of months. Maybe you had a defective one? Did you contact XaX about it?
XAX Belt Clip case still drains the Qtek 9000 battery
The solution mentioned in this forum did not work for me, no matter how i place the PDA in the XAX case it still drains the battery. Here is the problem:
I have noticed a serious and unacceptable defect with the “XaX Leather Case w/Belt Clip for Qtek 9000 (Black)”. It seems that the magnetic fastening system of the XAX case is draining the battery of the Qtek 9000. The tests were performed as follows to identify the exact nature of the problem:
1. I charged the Qtek 9000 to where the battery displayed a 100% FULL charge.
2. I put the Qtek 9000 PDA into the XAX Case mentioned above on a desk in our office.
3. After a few hours (approximately 4 hours) I checked the Qtek 9000 and noticed that the PDA had a very low battery warning.
4. In order to verify that it was a problem with XAX case, I did the exact same steps as mentioned above WITHOUT putting the Qtek 9000 in the XAX case, instead I left it without the case on the desk (same place exactly). After 4-6 hours, the Qtek 9000 battery was still charged as it would normally be when it was not in the XAX case.
The above tests were performed on numerous occasions and I verified that the XAX case for the Qtek 9000 has flaw, where the magnetic fastening mechanism is rapidly draining the Qtek 9000’s battery (and possibly making the PDA loose some data from the SD card).
PLEASE HELP, do I need to throw away the XAX Case?
Well my XAX case is being used everyday and is not draining my battery!
Is it perhaps the case that when encased your pda is doing something that it does not do when not encased.
Have you for example tried putting it in a drawer to simulate the effect of a weaker signal?
Do you have bluetooth and wireless running?
Steve
Actually incased or not, i did a few tries where i put the PDA on the exact same spot for 5 hours (without the XAX Case) and all was normal battery was still charged, and after that all i did was to put the PDA in the XAX case (PDA closed and nothing running etc) in the SAME EXACT spot where the only difference was the XAX Case covering the PDA, and after 4 hours the battery was very low. It is absolutely clear to me that the 4 magnets in magnetic fastening system of the XAX case is doing something to the PDA, to where the result is a drain in the battery. By the way do you have this exact case: “XaX Leather Case w/Belt Clip for Qtek 9000 (Black)”?
This is the one I bought:
http://www.clove.co.uk/products/accessories.asp?strAreaNo=404&intElement=25824
Yes this is the exact same case (i paid more for mine on Expansys http://www.expansys.it/product.asp?code=126026 ). Are you putting the PDA as originally designed -> the case was designed with the camera facing the SD card slots (your body) and the Speakers facing down through the holes of XAX Case? If yes then are you sure that if you have it charged at 100% and you put it in the case for 6 hours, the battery of the PDA is still OK? I am surprized as i did nothing more than put the PDA in the case and it lost the battery charge, without the case all is normal??? Strange?
Hello all,
I recently dropped my phone and when I tried to turn it back on, it wouldn't turn on. There's no light on anywhere in the phone. I opened up the phone and checked all the connections, seems like everything is still intact and connected. I have given up on trying to diagnose the problem on this phone, so i'm asking y'alls help. Could it just be a battery problem? or is it a hardware problem that's unfixable? Can I send this phone somewhere and get it fixed, if so, how much would it cost me? Thank You in advance.
Its more unlikely for the battery to get damaged on drop down. Its definitely a hardware. Hope your baby is still under warranty, the you can even get a replace done for free. Else the charge may vary by the diagnosis. Anyway i hope it wont be of much expense if the display is intact by the dropped force, probably there wont be of much damage.
Regards
Carty..
Hi,
I had the same prob. & send it to the service center. Luckily they replaced my phone for free. Still don't know what the real problem was, very unlikely the battery though cause I got it back with a half charged one (probably mine which I had to send in as well).
No good news for you afterall, I do really feel with you in these horrible times.
Regards, M
Yeah, i'm thinking of just buying another phone, because I don't have warranty on this phone anymore and even if I did, I have voided the warranty on it by opening it up. I'm still gonna get a new battery for it though, just to see if it is the battery, if not then I guess my loss. Atleast I found out that it wasn't the battery.
Does it show evident marks of being opened up by you? Cause that was the main reason I didn't try opening it, too afraid voiding the warranty. Though I had it unlocked & patched for BS too.
So I just gave it a try & in my case it worked out fine.
Refards, M
I suppose, problem is connected not to battery, but to battery cover/switch. Look at the photo: there is a pin on the battery cover. Usually, when cover is on the right place, it presses the switch down. Try to check at first, if switch is broken or not. When pressed, it have to short circuit. You can just short it by piece of wire and see, what's happened. If swich is not closed, jam will never turn on, even if you have charged battery, or AC adaptor connected.
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I suppose, problem is connected not to battery, but to battery cover/switch. Look at the photo: there is a pin on the battery cover. Usually, when cover is on the right place, it presses the switch down. Try to check at first, if switch is broken or not. When pressed, it have to short circuit. You can just short it by piece of wire and see, what's happened. If swich is not closed, jam will never turn on, even if you have charged battery, or AC adaptor connected.
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I tried that already, but I will check the cover and see the latch on the battery cover is broken or not, maybe it is. I'll try it when i get home.
if you want to salvage it for parts, I'll buy the ear piece (mini speaker in the front) from you.
balut said:
JDark said:
I suppose, problem is connected not to battery, but to battery cover/switch. Look at the photo: there is a pin on the battery cover. Usually, when cover is on the right place, it presses the switch down. Try to check at first, if switch is broken or not. When pressed, it have to short circuit. You can just short it by piece of wire and see, what's happened. If swich is not closed, jam will never turn on, even if you have charged battery, or AC adaptor connected.
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I tried that already, but I will check the cover and see the latch on the battery cover is broken or not, maybe it is. I'll try it when i get home.
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tried it when i got home, but still no luck. Do you guys know where I can send this to? and how much do I expect to pay? Thanks!
LordPhong said:
if you want to salvage it for parts, I'll buy the ear piece (mini speaker in the front) from you.
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I'll have to wait and see first, maybe my phone can still be saved.
Oh man, i'm so relieved right now. This whole time I was wondering if I had to buy a new phone, since my jam is broken. I just found out that the US service center for HTC is located right by my house. It's just a relief, I will stop by there office on monday to see if they can fix my imate jam. Thank god !
Hope the best for you @ very low cost.
M
dropped off the jam there this afternoon, the cute lady service tech took my jam and said she'll run some diagnostics on it and call me whenever she gets done with it. Hopefully it's fixable.
Hey all, I've searched the forum and not found much at all..
I have no idea why this happened but my Hermes won't turn on at all, power button has no effect whatsoever and when I try to charge it I get the red light of death..
I put it down on my desk with ~80% battery last night and when I went to check for messages (by watching the service LED for a few seconds) in the morning the LED wasn't flashing so I tried waking it up and it was dead.
Plugged it into the charger, RLoD.. what the ****?
Anyone have any idea what could have gone wrong?
Usually caused by something that causes the battery to drain below 10%. Then you can get the RLOD. The charging circuit gets locked up and won't allow the device to charge. A pesky problem, but at least you have the RLOD, if you didn't then it could be the motherboard fuse.
So some things to try, non of them guaranteed and sometimes it works after trying these things several times over:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1077622&postcount=6
Mike
I have put my battery in my friend's Hermes and it says its 100% charged, I have put his battery in my Hermes and it still won't boot..
It's really weird.. BTW already tried your RLoD fixes, none worked.
I really hope I can fix it, I keep trying to slide open the non-existent qwerty keyboard on my Magician and it's frustrating using an OSK :S
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I have put my battery in my friend's Hermes and it says its 100% charged, I have put his battery in my Hermes and it still won't boot..
It's really weird.. BTW already tried your RLoD fixes, none worked.
I really hope I can fix it, I keep trying to slide open the non-existent qwerty keyboard on my Magician and it's frustrating using an OSK :S
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Other than hard reset (don't think you mentioned doing that) I have only one other suggestion and that is the battery contacts. Hopefully not fractured between the pins and motherboard, but worth a try at cleaning the contacts and pushing the battery against the contacts.
If that doesn't work then I fear a motherboard fault.
Mike
Ok well for some reason my Hermes decided to boot up this morning after sitting on my desk for a night..
Weird stuff..
aaron11193 said:
Ok well for some reason my Hermes decided to boot up this morning after sitting on my desk for a night..
Weird stuff..
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It is strange. Sometimes charges can build up within capacitors in a circuit and the "logic" can be disrupted. This is why sometimes it's a good idea with some faults to leave the battery out for a while to clear any such charges. However in your case with all the battery swapping and so on, I am a little sceptical that this was the cause.
If it happens again, I'd certainly be looking for a fault between battery connectors and the battery or between the connectors and the motherboard.
Let's hope that's it cured however
Mike
Hi,
I have a Jasjam PPC. But the problem is that it's not charging at all. When I put it in charge only red light glow either with battery inserted or battery removed. So, is it time to replace my battery or there is some problem with the Jasjam? I have done resetting during the charge but its not working also. Since my battery is totally drained up so there's not any kind of screen light during pressing power button.
PLZ I NEED HELP...........
Thanks.
hayabusa_ryu said:
Hi,
I have a Jasjam PPC. But the problem is that it's not charging at all. When I put it in charge only red light glow either with battery inserted or battery removed. So, is it time to replace my battery or there is some problem with the Jasjam? I have done resetting during the charge but its not working also. Since my battery is totally drained up so there's not any kind of screen light during pressing power button.
PLZ I NEED HELP...........
Thanks.
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Usually caused by something that causes the battery to drain below 10%. Then you can get the RLOD. The charging circuit gets locked up and won't allow the device to charge. A pesky problem, but at least you have the RLOD, if you didn't then it could be the motherboard fuse.
So some things to try, non of them guaranteed and sometimes it works after trying these things several times over:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...22&postcount=6
Mike
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have tried the recommended first 2 methods and last method is still left to try but I feel that Its time to buy a new battery becaz the battery is 2 years old. And I also feel that its totally RLOD problem becaz I carry 2 phones and don't pay much attention to this jasjam therefore I dont usually charge it frequently. I have left it uncharged for many times and thus there isn't any problem with motherboard fuse in my opinion. I will try my most to make the battery work.
One suggestion needed. The place where I live dont have any Imate shop but the HTC shop is near. Since TyTyn and Jasjam are nearly the same device should I buy the tytyn's battery and insert it in JASJAM.
Again ur reply needed.
thanks
hayabusa_ryu said:
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I have tried the recommended first 2 methods and last method is still left to try but I feel that Its time to buy a new battery becaz the battery is 2 years old. And I also feel that its totally RLOD problem becaz I carry 2 phones and don't pay much attention to this jasjam therefore I dont usually charge it frequently. I have left it uncharged for many times and thus there isn't any problem with motherboard fuse in my opinion. I will try my most to make the battery work.
One suggestion needed. The place where I live dont have any Imate shop but the HTC shop is near. Since TyTyn and Jasjam are nearly the same device should I buy the tytyn's battery and insert it in JASJAM.
Again ur reply needed.
thanks
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To the best of my knowledge the batteries are the same. My concern is that a new battery will not solve a "locked up" charging circuit. If however it is a bettery fault then it will cure the problem - and a different battery has been known to unlock the circuit, thus allowing the old battery to start charging again.
You are correct about the fuse being OK. The red LED will not light if the fuse is blown.
Mike
Thanks a ton for your reply. And I gonna do all of your provided tricks to cure my JASJAM's RLOD disease.
I need some days to update the result. So I will let u know if i get my device working as soon as possible.
Thanks again for the help.
Thanks my phone's battery is charging again.
But i got one problem and that's my phone is showing that its speaker is on. there's speaker icon always on the top of the start menu taskbar although I cant switch on speaker in call and in some program. How to set it to default? I dunno want to reset my PPC.
hayabusa_ryu said:
Thanks my phone's battery is charging again.
But i got one problem and that's my phone is showing that its speaker is on. there's speaker icon always on the top of the start menu taskbar although I cant switch on speaker in call and in some program. How to set it to default? I dunno want to reset my PPC.
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First I'm pleased you got it charging again. Please tell us what you did that got it working - new battery?, one of the "tricks" mentioned above??
Regarding the speaker problem. When you tap the speaker icon I assume you get two sliding volume controls - one for earpiece and one for rear loudspeaker?? I also assume you have both set correctly??
If you have the volume on both set correctly, we need to know if you get sound from the rear speaker on any programs at all. Can you play music for example. If the answer is NO then I suspect your rear speaker push on connector has slipped off (not uncommon). If so look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1376254&postcount=2
If however you do get sound from the rear loudspeaker on some applications, then the above is not your problem.
Mike
I think that the second option worked for me if I am right.
And for the speaker problem, I think that you didn't understand my question.
My rear speaker works during music or in programs. But the only problem is that when I switch the speakerphone(loudspeaker) mode during the call, it's not working(not rear one). And the speakerphone icon which we see only during call is showing all the time, that's the problem and I cant switch to loudspeaker during the calls even if the loud icon is always there. I hope u understand the problem or I will post the picture.
Thank you for giving your precious time.
hello guys
i charged my lg g2 (d802) under the pillow (i know it,s a dump move) all over the night
in the morning , i found the phone very hot that i couldn't hold it and since then the phone wont turn on , wont do anything like there is no life in it:crying:, i know its a hardware issue ,but can someone tell me what iam dealing with and what i should do ?
thanks for your time
shldm_g2 said:
hello guys
i charged my lg g2 (d802) under the pillow (i know it,s a dump move) all over the night
in the morning , i found the phone very hot that i couldn't hold it and since then the phone wont turn on , wont do anything like there is no life in it:crying:, i know its a hardware issue ,but can someone tell me what iam dealing with and what i should do ?
thanks for your time
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help please ????
shldm_g2 said:
hello guys
i charged my lg g2 (d802) under the pillow (i know it,s a dump move) all over the night
in the morning , i found the phone very hot that i couldn't hold it and since then the phone wont turn on , wont do anything like there is no life in it:crying:, i know its a hardware issue ,but can someone tell me what iam dealing with and what i should do ?
thanks for your time
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I'm pretty sure you fried it. It could be anything from the screen to the main board =/. I'm happy that nothing happened to you, however. Had it been a *ahem* Samsung *ahem* or if you just had some horrible luck it would probably have caught fire, so be happy that it didn't happen.
oooh god
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I'm pretty sure you fried it. It could be anything from the screen to the main board =/. I'm happy that nothing happened to you, however. Had it been a *ahem* Samsung *ahem* or if you just had some horrible luck it would probably have caught fire, so be happy that it didn't happen.
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really ,thanks god?
i also noticed that the phone gets worm(upper part) when i try to charge it
shldm_g2 said:
really ,thanks god?
i also noticed that the phone gets worm(upper part) when i try to charge it
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remove the back cover and then the plastic cover that covers the motherboard (the top piece). Disconnect the battery connector and reconnect it. Try to power it on. If that fails, put your device with the screen facing down on a table and while trying to turn it on (keep pushing power button) push gently with your finger/nail the lower bottom of this small battery connector. If it turn on then use a tiny plastic/elastic thing, or just some tape, to do the same job that your finger did when you put back the plastic cover. Dont think that since it power on its ok, cause it will not charge or turn on or reboot if you dont put something to keep pushing the battery connector. If none of these work, then you have a serious hardware damage. But i want to believe its just the battery.
ok
i will try this and come back with results
thanks for your time?
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remove the back cover and then the plastic cover that covers the motherboard (the top piece). Disconnect the battery connector and reconnect it. Try to power it on. If that fails, put your device with the screen facing down on a table and while trying to turn it on (keep pushing power button) push gently with your finger/nail the lower bottom of this small battery connector. If it turn on then use a tiny plastic/elastic thing, or just some tape, to do the same job that your finger did when you put back the plastic cover. Dont think that since it power on its ok, cause it will not charge or turn on or reboot if you dont put something to keep pushing the battery connector. If none of these work, then you have a serious hardware damage. But i want to believe its just the battery.
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i did what u told me to do,still not working
but i noticed a couple of things
first the heat is coming from the area under the battery connector(while trying to charge the phone)
second when i remove the battery connector the phone is not heating up (when i try to charge it)
Try again the problem might be with this small battery connector, it's a common damage. Usually when I repair g2 and face this problem i put a small ball of electric tape and problem gets fixed. The thing with yours is that your battery must be totally drained so even if you find the right spot to push this connector, there is going to be a delay till the phone starts charging again. You can try a new battery for about 10 to 15 euros. The thing that you felt heat under the connector is not necessarily bad. There is nothing under this part so this shows that electricity goes there. You can wait 5 minutes to see if it will start charging. Sorry for my English...
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