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Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong
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do you know who is 'that guy' to whom you refer to?
*edit* didn't see you already know who he is
TBH I can't believe it
No, Xperia get 384 Mb.
There is explanation about that.
From
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers
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What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip.
I am aware of this explanation but this guy really seemed sure about that it was a miss saying. He said that there is, ONLY 256mb ram.
edit: Where does this rumor come from anyway? That there is 128mb on cpu/gpu ram?
Agaas said:
Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
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Hmmm... could you ask him again quoting what Matt said at Tracy & Matt? Or rather, simply just ask him how much memory is dedicated to the 3D Chip.
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Hmmm... could you ask him again quoting what Matt said at Tracy & Matt? Or rather, simply just ask him how much memory is dedicated to the 3D Chip.
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Okey, I will. But later when Ive got time to
inuka said:
No, Xperia get 384 Mb.
There is explanation about that.
From
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/13/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-answers
Q&A
What is the actual RAM in the device?
The X1 has 384 MB RAM but you'll note that the device information screen says 256MB. This is because the X1 also has an additional 128MB RAM that's only accessible to the CPU/3D chip.
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I think X1's RAM is 256MB at present.
Why Matt can say "128MB RAM for CPU/3D"? I don’t think Matt can know this (128MB RAM for CPU/3D) by the normal review.
ahyi said:
I think X1's RAM is 256MB at present.
Why Matt can say "128MB RAM for CPU/3D"? I don’t think Matt can know this (128MB RAM for CPU/3D) by the normal review.
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He got a PRESS release, and i'm pretty much positive that they get a detailed spec sheet or something with that. He wouldn't have said it on his own, of that i am sure.
Pardon my ignorance. Who are Matt and Tracy? I've been on their site but it doesn't have anything about them on there? I presume its a London based site given the 0208 number on their 'Contact' page
Have they either
a) been involved in the design/manafacturing process of the X1 or
b) actually opened up the device and seen for themselves?
Maby someone with a bit of knowledge behind circuits on phones could have a look at this and tell us if there infact is 384mb or not:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
This shows images on the xperias internal parts.
(found the link in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434895&highlight=inside+xperia)
Ask Tracy and Matt where that information came from... OH YEAH, assumption because Xperiancers said 384 and the device shows 256 RAM. There's no way to prove there's 128 dedicated to graphics when you have the device, there's no spec that shows it. They know as little as we do and assumed.
Agaas said:
Hello everyone,
I have got the xperia but I was just as you confused about whether the it had got 256 or 384mb ram, so I decided to call the special x1 support to get my question solved.
The guy seemed very educated on the phone, as he answered my question without hesitation.
Apparently that guy who said there were going to be 384mb ram, was wrong. It IS 256mb. I was told that he had mixed up internal memory and RAM.
This was really dissapointing to hear as I cannot get how a senior product manager can repetetly make the same miss saying over and over again without ever publicly say that this was a miss saying.
None the less, I am keeping my phone. Its great still.
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The 'guy" MAGNUS the MORON
Hi all. I was the one who was sherlocking the internals of the prototype tested by the FCC, I would regard the one tested by the commission as being the final version. The part number 8MA98jq257 xv99 is security badged with a unique part number manufactured by a semiconductor company called
Micron Technology Inc, They specialise in mobile ram of many variants.
and 128Mb is not out of the question since they have sizes up to a 1Gb,
The recent news of the storm successor which is in works now has alledgely 1Gb of Ram, So it's not totally out of the question.
Thanks all....time to do some IC Sherlocking, Any new information I will keep you informed.
ugh, this is likely a bad news
I've inspected this link http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
and compared it to the micron mobile ram database from the official website, here is my thoughts :
1. so far the evidence suggest that there is only 1 RAM chip in X1, the one that has 8MA898 JQ257 written on it.
2. there are no 384 RAM module in this world AFAIK.
3. so the best guess would be that RAM chip is the one with 256MB, if it a 512MB chip then it won't make sense, and it's more expensive.
4. and sadly, there is a big probability that there are actually no RAM dedicated for the GPU, because there are no other RAM chip there so far.
5. if we speculate that THAT is the VRAM, then where is the system RAM? That is the only RAM chip! Except if there are more RAM chip, that is could be the one covered with heatsink but I doubt it.
nap007 said:
ugh, this is likely a bad news
I've inspected this link http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1011334&native_or_pdf=pdf
and compared it to the micron mobile ram database from the official website, here is my thoughts :
1. so far the evidence suggest that there is only 1 RAM chip in X1, the one that has 8MA898 JQ257 written on it.
2. there are no 384 RAM module in this world AFAIK.
3. so the best guess would be that RAM chip is the one with 256MB, if it a 512MB chip then it won't make sense, and it's more expensive.
4. and sadly, there is a big probability that there are actually no RAM dedicated for the GPU, because there are no other RAM chip there so far.
5. if we speculate that THAT is the VRAM, then where is the system RAM? That is the only RAM chip! Except if there are more RAM chip, that is could be the one covered with heatsink but I doubt it.
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Need i point out that this document was created on the 10th of the last month, a few days after the announcement was spread about 384 MB RAM... so has shots of a proto, definitely. Even the people who got their hands on an Xperia by the end of the month identified it as a proto.
Anyways... Just leave this discussion. What's the use? It could be this or it could be that. SE sucks in their marketing - kudos to them on that - but i am certain that Xperia will be one hell of a phone. It does have a 3d Chip with dedicated RAM... but how much? that we can only assume to be 128 as that would bring the overall total to 384... but let's just wait and see.
I almost gave up on the set. My brother is in Dubai and i gave him the ok to purchase a Touch Pro for me, 'cos i could not wait for Xperia any more, but then i played with the Touch Pro here at a local shop and i changed my mind again. The Panels interface has much more to offer than the beatifully done TF3D... And considering that there actually turns out to be dedicated memory for the 3D chip on the Xperia, any lag will probably be overtaken with updates and so. (my cousin's Touch Diamond was extremely slow unless he applied an update last month to it, why can't Se do the same?)
I don't get why there's such a huge argument about specs, it's STILL slow in panel mode, so what does it matter? As the person who has his said, it's not "dog slow", but it's noticeably slower than he expected. That tells me that it doesn't matter how much RAM it has, it could have 4 gigs, if it doesn't perform up to expectations it's not enough.
Black93300ZX said:
I don't get why there's such a huge argument about specs, it's STILL slow in panel mode, so what does it matter? As the person who has his said, it's not "dog slow", but it's noticeably slower than he expected. That tells me that it doesn't matter how much RAM it has, it could have 4 gigs, if it doesn't perform up to expectations it's not enough.
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TF3D on Touch Diamond was damn slow and buggy at times, it sometimes still is slow in refreshing when you switch through the tabs. the Diamond's update resolved a lot of issues on TF3D performance... so is an update not possible by SE to improve their Panels further?
From the latest vids seen of Xperia, the panels are not slow. The only panel that has been noted to be slow is the Xperia Panel by SE which takes a second or two to refresh it's shortcuts... but overall there is no major difference neither is there any lag.
Furthermore, the guy said that it is slow SOMETIMES, not always.
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TF3D on Touch Diamond was damn slow and buggy at times, it sometimes still is slow in refreshing when you switch through the tabs. the Diamond's update resolved a lot of issues on TF3D performance... so is an update not possible by SE to improve their Panels further?
From the latest vids seen of Xperia, the panels are not slow. The only panel that has been noted to be slow is the Xperia Panel by SE which takes a second or two to refresh it's shortcuts... but overall there is no major difference neither is there any lag.
Furthermore, the guy said that it is slow SOMETIMES, not always.
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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I don´t give a f**K about how much ram there is The one thing I care about are speed and stability and this phone is the best WM device ever that I have used and I have owned a bunch. The ordinary WM OS interface flies on the phone and it is totally untweaked. Ok the panels a bit slow sometimes, it takes some second to change from one to another. But I seldom uses them - just uses the ordinary Windows todayscreen with Mobileshell, uses the mediapanel and radiopanel sometimes but none of the other. And the battery seems very good, played with all day yesterday and still got 40% when arriving home, my Diamond was dead after the same use and even the Touch Pro was near death
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Ya know what? I give up. You're the definition of fanboy, anything bad that's said about this phone is wrong because you say it is and you've decided it will be amazing. I think it's a good phone, but what do numbers matter if you see the performance is slow "sometimes" anyways? 384, 256, you realize that doesn't mean a damn thing right? As for the panels not being slow, HA. I've seen plenty of videos since the release and they're noticeably laggy for certain panels. Can they improve it? Sure. Are we judging future improvements? Well, that depends, when the Diamond came out did people say "it has potential to be fast"? No, they said it's slow, call it how it is.
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The reason i don't call it as i see it, is because no one has done a full fledge review yet, so i can't say for sure. And most videos i have seen so far have been fast. Yes panels are slow at times in switching or refreshing, but in the latest reviews, most of them are simply awesome.
Fanboy? i've only owned one SE set in my entire life and the best thing i liked about it was its headphones. I call this phone amazing, 'cos i see it to be one, not because i'm being a fan of a brand. I stand by my statement that Panels have more potential than TF3D, and i beleive that it is a huge concern that they said 384 MB and then it turns out to be 256 MB... but excuse me for being an optimist and assuming that they most likely have 128 MB dedicated to the 3D Chip. Sure we don't have any hard-proof that it has 128 MB dedicated RAM to the 3D chip, but we don't have any hard-proof otherwise either.
As for the "sometimes" slow performance, i only said that the guys who already have an Xperia in their hands are saying that it is slow in Panel switching but only at times. I agree that the Xperia Panel (SE default Panel) is slow, because i've seen it to be even in the latest videos, but as for the other panels, they are fast and smooth.
In short... to each their own opinion. But don't insult me by labelling me a fanboy making my opinion biased. To me, apart from the missing Accelerometer, Xperia seems to be the best Windows mobile device out there, and that has nothing to do with the Brand.
Take a look at these... and then tell me, are the panels not fast? Like i said, the Xperia X1 Panel is slow in refreshing its icons, but the others are fast and smooth. And not just the panels... switching from landscape to portrait and so on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnnDosWiuY
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hjatGzL-QRA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iTfVYd0fwYQ
Another one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3X824_dDgms
This one though is stretched wide, but still worth looking at.
Hi,
Finally a really in-depth review - really! And like i pointed in the title:
"The X1 comes with a total of 384 megabytes of RAM memory. Only 256 megabytes is visible in the system, but this is because these 256 megabytes is strictly for applications. At boot there’s about 152 megabytes free.
The remaining 128 megabytes of RAM memory is used for both the video graphics and CPU. According to the MSM7200A datasheet, the graphics part of the chipset (presumably the ATI Imageon 2300 or 2700G chip) is capable of delivering up to 4 million 3D triangles per second, and 133 million 3D textured pixels per second fill rate. Furthermore, it supports OpenGL ES - link that up with the large amount of dedicated video memory, and you’ve got an awesome power horse or gaming machine."
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Old news bro.
xmoo said:
Old news bro.
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new news for me though. I know at the system memory it only shows 256MB of RAM, but I didn't know there's 128MB of hidden memory for GPU, etc. In that case, I wonder if it's the same for other HTC device like HTC Touch Pro, or is this an unique architecture for Xperia?
I did observed that the memory after bootup, is much more for Xperia than HTC Touch Pro, maybe that 128MB of hidden memory is making that difference.
zenkinz said:
new news for me though. I know at the system memory it only shows 256MB of RAM, but I didn't know there's 128MB of hidden memory for GPU, etc. In that case, I wonder if it's the same for other HTC device like HTC Touch Pro, or is this an unique architecture for Xperia?
I did observed that the memory after bootup, is much more for Xperia than HTC Touch Pro, maybe that 128MB of hidden memory is making that difference.
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Yes, it is new to me too as it only states that X1 has 256MB Ram so it has the extra of 128MB memory hidden, no wonder it is faster compared to my previous Touch Pro.
Good Job, SonyEricsson!
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Old news bro.
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Sorry bro. Been out of the scene lately, and having seen this today was new to me.
That's no proof at all. We already knew that the Qualcomm chip has hardware acceleration capabilities. Even the Diamond and Touch Pro has it but there is a rumor that it isn't utilized because HTC didn't buy the license for it.
Until someone opens up the X1 and spots the exact 128MB memory chip (only the flash memory and the 256MB RAM chip have been spotted as of now) I won't believe anything. Information is rather dubious it needs to be cleared out by facts (and hardware pictures).
Also the source is rather biased too. The "unofficial SE Blog" as they call it, is SE friendly and will write anything will come to their mind to help SE image and sales. I've read the review and while I think it is overall detailed, on some points their objectivity is quite questionable.
Sounds good, but if Sony cant even get the freaking panels to work smoothly with low res screenshots, i doubt any other software will ever use this.
No game developer will limit his games to one phone, so they come up with rather simple games without 3d stuff...its not like with the iphone where millions of people have the same phone with the same hardware/software base...because of that, they have alot of great games that utilize the 3d hardware but i dont see that happening for any WinMo device.
There might an optimzed version of coreplayer or that PS1 Emu, well might.
XavierGr said:
That's no proof at all. We already knew that the Qualcomm chip has hardware acceleration capabilities. Even the Diamond and Touch Pro has it but there is a rumor that it isn't utilized because HTC didn't buy the license for it.
Until someone opens up the X1 and spots the exact 128MB memory chip (only the flash memory and the 256MB RAM chip have been spotted as of now) I won't believe anything. Information is rather dubious it needs to be cleared out by facts (and hardware pictures).
Also the source is rather biased too. The "unofficial SE Blog" as they call it, is SE friendly and will write anything will come to their mind to help SE image and sales. I've read the review and while I think it is overall detailed, on some points their objectivity is quite questionable.
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damn true, we have nothing but words.
Also, think about it. A whopping 128MB VRAM for WVGA resolution? A desktop PC with 128MB VRAM on it's GPU could play full on 3D games at SXGA resolution easily. Doesn't sound logical to me at all if they put that much VRAM on this tiny device. Way too generous for HTC. 16MB or even 32MB sounds a lot more reasonable and realistic.
^ yep, I've also said that a few times here.....
so in the end I for one, can call SE is a liar here.
See subject line.
I need to admit, its a lot.
But, i wonder how the memory is being shared. The HD2 has 428MB of total Ram.
But 128MB is being used by the GPU. The question is, is the 428MB ram, really global ram. Or is the 128MB ram dedicated ram for the GPU ( like the 2700g has 16MB dedicated ram ).
If its global ram, then maybe its possible to reduce the ram amount to 64MB or 32MB, and use the rest for programs... So many open question, so little information about the snapdragon's design
For instance, the Toshiba TG01 & Asus F1, both have 256MB global ram. But does that mean that both companies did not report the 128MB "extra" ram, in there total like HTC does. Or does it mean, that they use a smaller part off the 256MB ram, for its GPU.
i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
Dark Fire said:
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
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Yes, you are right. My bad. It's indeed 448MB.
Yeah. 448MB = 128MB dedicated video memory, plus 320MB conventional memory.
I suspect other vendors probably simply don't advertise video memory; it's also possible, of course, that they have a unified memory architecture (e.g. that the TG01 and Acer F1 use their main 256MB of regular memory to store video in); that might account for the Leo's 3D graphics benchmark scores exceeding those of the TG01.
Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
sthoeft said:
Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
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Is it even confirmed that 128 MB is indeed for VRAM, or is it just speculations so far (even though I'm inclined to think the same)?
Zhuk86 said:
i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
alecs said:
It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
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Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
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According to B3ler3fonte who gave us details about the Leo in the general thread (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143&page=48) it will be compatible with winmo 7.
In order to save some answers, I am posting you a far more detailed specs of Leo, so, as u can clearly see from the specs, u’ll notice (and I think it was a question which was circulating from loads around this thread, of whether future WM7 will or will not be supported by Leo) that it will be absolutely supported. I think we should all celebrate!!
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Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
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Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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Thanks Why_999 I wasn't aware that the snapdragon was Qualcomm 8k series processor.
i think it should be reserved memory actually for some sense UI things and similar stuffs . not dedicated video RAM
Isnt 128 too much just for clouds? There are 3 variants possible:
- someone was speculating with specs in his blog and the rumor broke out;
- thats for gaming purposes( see wm7);
- thats for iphone graphics emulator)))
RAM is split between ARM cores, general-purpose ARM11 and radio ARM9. Portions can be reserved for other purposes (video acceleration for one) too. Chances are there's ~256Mb of RAM accessible from OS on HD2, which is fairly reasonable, IMO. More RAM means less battery life...
It's "just" to have the 1Go needed for WinMo7... I am sure our cookers will change this to get the best of this awesome phone
HELLO Y'ALL
I noticed that XPERIA X1 & Blackstone share almost the same
Specifications and use's the Qualcomm MSM7200A CPU which has an GPU
built in the CPU core
as i know the XPERIA X1 has an ATi 128mb and the Blackstone has 64mb
can it be unlocked to 128mb GPU?
regards
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HELLO Y'ALL
I noticed that XPERIA X1 & Blackstone share almost the same
Specifications and use's the Qualcomm MSM7200A CPU which has an GPU
built in the CPU core
as i know the XPERIA X1 has an ATi 128mb and the Blackstone has 64mb
can it be unlocked to 128mb GPU?
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where did you get those information? i have both Touch HD and Xperia X1
i have noticed that the spec sheets of those phones are the same
and they use the same CPU
and they came from the same Factory (HTC Venus/Kovsky = XPERIA X1)
The new HTC Desire HD is now on HTC's website.
It is HD2 copy but with Android.
Nand on the way(?) when these are in XDA forum users hands.
the hardware is the same? I don't think soo :S
Snapdragon 8255 1gz
768MB of RAM
internal storage 1.5gb
and a battery 1230ma
8mpx
ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh I want one, I want one, I want one! or I'll settle for a nice android port.
really wana get a dump of the Desire HD so i can port it to the HD2, all those new widgets and apps, along with new camera app! easy port to be made
the desire hd is too easy to port like EVO....what I means is: EVO = HTC DESIRE HD
really hard to dump
No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
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an 4GB internal flash drive]
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4GB... are you sure???
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
That says 1.5GB...
Nonetheless, 8mpx, faster loading time, more ram, more nand, blah blah blah, still pretty much = HD2 Android.
I urge everyone to wait for the new CPU man. It's RTM Q4/2010.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/
The fake HD3 specs could true for some specs like 1Gb Ram Given the new Desire HD got 768mb ram.
Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
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Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
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My thoughts too. a fast SD card could will do the trick, besides we'll always be able to use WM at any time.
Until something with a TP2 form factor comes out, I don't think I'm getting a new device. I really miss the keyboard. Resco KB is doing the trick in WM, but it's not like feeling the buttons.
And for God's sake, add some specs. HTC is becoming like Nokia, same hardware in different enclosure every few months.
dang you all . this is android development channel not ur chit chat channel. push this into the android development general thread. why dont noobs understand what and where to put things @@@@
dealer75 said:
I got one for testing purposes...
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Did you ever know that you're our hero? and you can fly higher than an Eagle and you are the wind between our legs?
What the deuce!!, just bought my HD2 4 weeks ago and still got my Nexus, Touch HD and Pro2 from last year lying around Curse you HTC, curse you!!!
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hi, can u get roms and post here....
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dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
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is it possible for you to post the .apks from the phone. this will help in development .. only if its possible.
TheTeek said:
No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
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using my computer knowledge, all these won't affect porting if they use same component for radio/IO/DSP/wireless/bluetooth/GPS...etc
die shrink usually means pin-to-pin compatibility.
dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
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I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
richteralan said:
I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
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but what's the point? is it going to change anything...? all that we need is the rom dump and the rest is up to cooks.
btw, this thread is kinda pointless imho. we all know about release of desire hd and z.