In Italy we have QTEK 9000 and I-Mate Jasjar.It seems to me that one is equipped with xScale and the other one with Bulverde.Are there some differencies betwen them?One is better then the other?May be they are just the same!!
Its the same Processor. XScale is the Mobile processor Series from Intel and bulverde is the internal releasename.
Hi,
Get an indepth review of Xperia X1 here: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/27/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-review
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
IMO it's still quite far below gsmarena's standard review...
nap007 said:
IMO it's still quite far below gsmarena's standard review...
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Yeah... i just looked at the review and the length of it and assumed it to be in-depth. When i read it - after posting the link here - it wasn't much detailed or infact that useful. Further he used a proto too. (a close to the final one, but still a proto)
msalmank said:
Hi,
Get an indepth review of Xperia X1 here: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/27/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-review
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
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Damn propaganda.
Xperia X1 Touch Pro
512MB ROM / 256MB RAM 512MB ROM / 256MB RAM
The Touch pro has 288MB Ram!
My review...
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...843/paul-reviews-the-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/
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Mr.Sir said:
Damn propaganda.
Xperia X1 Touch Pro
512MB ROM / 256MB RAM 512MB ROM / 256MB RAM
The Touch pro has 288MB Ram!
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Well, they just didn't count RAM dedicated only for graphics, processor, etc. If you want to count it, then it's Xperia X1 512MB ROM / 384MB RAM and Touch Pro 512MB ROM / 288MB RAM.
Hmmm.........
Waco2 said:
Well, they just didn't count RAM dedicated only for graphics, processor, etc. If you want to count it, then it's Xperia X1 512MB ROM / 384MB RAM and Touch Pro 512MB ROM / 288MB RAM.
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Now that's still in the air and up for discussion.
er u know, I inquiried ATI for confirmation about the 3D chip, they still haven't replied yet; I did that because with I feel SE isn't really honest to us, they didn't even reconfirm about the much debated 256/384MB of RAM furthermore they never give any detail about the 3D chip, in fact the only statement about the 3D chip is that can be found from xperiancers which only stated about the 3D chip made by ATI, no further proof at all... suspicious...even more the slowness of the 3D effects for the panels when in rotation suggest that perhaps X1 doesn't even have 3D chip ; don't count the video performances because videos are 2D. But there are some videos that shown X1 playing 3D games smoothly so there are a probability that it really have 3D chip.
Now I just want a review from gsmarena!
The Touch HD uses Qualcomm MSM7200A cpu, same as sony-erricson Xperia X1, but X1 uses GPU while Touch HD is without. The iPhone uses faster CPU (underclocked) but allso has a GPU unit. This makes the Touch HD the worst phone in this range concerning the hardware for anything concerning graphics (like games)
Am i correct?
No you are not.
Diamond, Pro, HD, X1 are all the same.
There is an interesting thread discussing this in massive detail located Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
I'm currently using a cooked ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465637) that has better hardware acceleration baked in... Example I can reset device and run VR similation without having to reload 3d hardware drivers described in first link)...
Over time I expect we will see more fine tuning like this.
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No you are not.
Diamond, Pro, HD, X1 are all the same.
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You are right, i was confused as X1 specification had a GPU unit specified separately while HTC devices dont mention anything about it. The MSM7200A has integrated GPU, so basically it is really the same. Ok... i am glad i am wrong
sorry for duplicate reply.. keep getting error 500 internal server error
actually the diamond, pro & hd use the 7201a processor. the older polaris (touch cruise) and kaiser uses the 7200
See subject line.
I need to admit, its a lot.
But, i wonder how the memory is being shared. The HD2 has 428MB of total Ram.
But 128MB is being used by the GPU. The question is, is the 428MB ram, really global ram. Or is the 128MB ram dedicated ram for the GPU ( like the 2700g has 16MB dedicated ram ).
If its global ram, then maybe its possible to reduce the ram amount to 64MB or 32MB, and use the rest for programs... So many open question, so little information about the snapdragon's design
For instance, the Toshiba TG01 & Asus F1, both have 256MB global ram. But does that mean that both companies did not report the 128MB "extra" ram, in there total like HTC does. Or does it mean, that they use a smaller part off the 256MB ram, for its GPU.
i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
Dark Fire said:
Doesn't it have 448MB? 320+128?
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Yes, you are right. My bad. It's indeed 448MB.
Yeah. 448MB = 128MB dedicated video memory, plus 320MB conventional memory.
I suspect other vendors probably simply don't advertise video memory; it's also possible, of course, that they have a unified memory architecture (e.g. that the TG01 and Acer F1 use their main 256MB of regular memory to store video in); that might account for the Leo's 3D graphics benchmark scores exceeding those of the TG01.
Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
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Had been the same with the Xperia X1, there where also rumors that it does have (maybe has, don't know how to chekc this) 128 MB dedicated Video RAM. Don't care to much about it. It'll be fast enough anyway!
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Is it even confirmed that 128 MB is indeed for VRAM, or is it just speculations so far (even though I'm inclined to think the same)?
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i'm hoping that its going to be in preperation for what comes with Winmo 7, perhaps gaming, maybe MS requires such a high amount of vram as a standard?
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
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Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
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It doesn't look like it will work on WM7 !!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4802767&postcount=4
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According to B3ler3fonte who gave us details about the Leo in the general thread (here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143&page=48) it will be compatible with winmo 7.
In order to save some answers, I am posting you a far more detailed specs of Leo, so, as u can clearly see from the specs, u’ll notice (and I think it was a question which was circulating from loads around this thread, of whether future WM7 will or will not be supported by Leo) that it will be absolutely supported. I think we should all celebrate!!
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Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia “Tegra” AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
From that single post it states that WM7 needs a Tegra graphics chip... but from the release QCOM 8k also meets the requirements, and the Leo will have Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor..
Am I missing something?? it seems it should be upgradable to WM7.
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Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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Sorry I must be missing something, from this spec list I can't see anything related to QCOM 8k ?
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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Qualcomm 8k = Snapdragon's QSD8xxx-series chips = Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 (which is in the Leo).. so the processor should meet WM7 chassis 1 requirement.
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Thanks Why_999 I wasn't aware that the snapdragon was Qualcomm 8k series processor.
i think it should be reserved memory actually for some sense UI things and similar stuffs . not dedicated video RAM
Isnt 128 too much just for clouds? There are 3 variants possible:
- someone was speculating with specs in his blog and the rumor broke out;
- thats for gaming purposes( see wm7);
- thats for iphone graphics emulator)))
RAM is split between ARM cores, general-purpose ARM11 and radio ARM9. Portions can be reserved for other purposes (video acceleration for one) too. Chances are there's ~256Mb of RAM accessible from OS on HD2, which is fairly reasonable, IMO. More RAM means less battery life...
It's "just" to have the 1Go needed for WinMo7... I am sure our cookers will change this to get the best of this awesome phone
In GSMarena in HTC HD2 spec says that the chipset is
Qualcomm MSM 8250 with adreno 200 GPU but in the site of Qualcomm it says that htc hd2 is with Qualcomm MSM 8250B and adreno 205 GPU same as Desire HD. What is the real htc hd2 chipset? Thanks in advance.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/device/htc-hd2-leo
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
In GSM Arena it also shows the OS as Windows Mobile 6.5
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In GSM Arena it also shows the OS as Windows Mobile 6.5
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Lol...U made my day!
So who will answer me? What is the real GPu of HD2 Adreno 200 or Adreno 205?
As far as I can remember (latest WM6.5 rom was on Dec2010!) it was saying MSM 8250B for my device. Maybe there are earlier versions out with 8250-chip...but I don't think so!
Flash an WM6.5 rom and U will be sure.
It's Adreno 200. Same as Nexus One.
Desire HD gets more fps in the same 3d benchmark as HD2.
P.S. Please shorter your sig. It's big.