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TyTN HSDPA Speed 3,6 - 7,2 Mbit/sec. possible?

hello all you austrians and germans there - hsdpa is working in some european regions up to 3,6 Mbit/sec.!
my question is: is the new QUALLCOMM HSDPA chip inside the TyTN which will support 3,6 - 7,2 Mbit/sec.?
this new QUALLCOMM Chipset is already shipping e.g. HUWAEI USB-Modem -
or does anybody think that it will be possible to run this really fast HSDPA USB-Modem on any WM5 device with mini-usb connector,
if drivers will be supported from QUALLCOMM?

The specs says "up to 1.8 Mbps".....

It's also going to be a LONG time before you see the carriers boosting their HSDPA speeds up to those levels. By then, the TyTN will seem like a Model T Ford...

3,6 - 7,2 Mbit/s = 0,45 - 0,9 MB/s
8 bits = 1 byte

The Qualcomm chip in Hermes TyTn is the 6275 which is limited to 1.8 Mb the new one 6280 can reach 3.8 Mbn and is used by two cards Sierra and Option.
The real bottleneck will be the backhaul (T1/E1) since each cell site has to carry the GSM + UMTS traffic. Operators will be offering the 3.8 in selected areas only

Spb Gprs Monitor!!!Help

I HAVE THE gprs monitor but i shows my connection speed to be around 40-60kbps which is impossible on gprs conncetion...y is it displayin it all wrong..plus when my device wakes up from standby it gives error application close..and today plugin shows trial is expired ..mine version is 2.4.3 help buddies plzzzzz

Actually it is possible to get up to 80kbps from GPRS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS
GPRS 4+1, or Class 8 GPRS, is supported by Magicians. Perhaps you live in a high-reception area?

toomuchdogfur said:
Actually it is possible to get up to 80kbps from GPRS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPRS
GPRS 4+1, or Class 8 GPRS, is supported by Magicians. Perhaps you live in a high-reception area?
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but i know that my gprs is bad one ranging from 2-6kbps...

GPRS speed
Don't get confused about kb and kB.. 8 bits = 1 Byte.
Charlie Grillo

GPRS / UMTS Operator Contexts Numbers

Searching for a solution to my data connection problem I found this on the registry of my 8525 running WM6 vp3G v3 ATT
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\RIL\OperatorContexts
There are keys for about 20 operators named according to the MCC and MCN numbers, most of them have 2 DWORDs: "GPRSContextNumber" and "UMTSContextNumber". The DEC value for each varies from 1,2,3,4,7 and 10
My network doesn´t exist in the original registry, but appears once I insert the SIM card, however no DWORDs are displayed.
Does anybody knows what these keys are for? And how to obtain the values for my network?
Thanks!

Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2382465&postcount=37
This entry really helped me so much...

the values identify how many conncurrent connections you can have for each connection type (UMTS and GPRS).
I located mine at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\RIL\OperatorContex\31040 (310410 is Cingular/ATT for me...wikipedia MCC MCN). Once I set UMTS to "2" (was "1" for both UMTS and GPRS) I was able to have both MEDIANET and BLACKBERRY Connect connections simultaniously over 3g on my ATT Tilt.

Howto activate H Icon

Hi all,
I've got an WM5 SPV M700 with the upgrade Orange FR ROM; I've upgrade the radio to the last version 1.50.08.11.
I've got HSDPA enable on my line .(With DSLReport I've got 656Kbp DL )
I've try the Registry tweak : HKLM/Software/OEM/RIL and create a DWORD EnableHSDPAIcon=1.
I've soft reset and check he registry. Everything is Ok.
When I do a DATA connection I never got the "H" Icon but aalways the 3G.
I've check around XDA search tool, google and other tools. The only thing I fond was the twaek or .cab file doing the registry modification.
I've check inside my \windows directory and there is the 3G, EDGE, GPRS, 1XRTT bmp icons but no HSDPA icon.
A frien has done the upgrade with WM6 and he have the HSDPA icon on the screen but nothing inside is \windows directory.
My questions :
- Is it possible to have H icon with WM5 ?
- DO I need to create an HSDPA_connect.bmp icon or something else ?
- Did someone have a magical cab ?
Chears,
Florian.

Are you in area that support (H)igh speed data connections?
I have 3G to allways on the sceen too, and when i use internet, it can show only 3G if there are not highspeed support.
example: when im at work im using only 3G ("3G" on the screen) connection because my carrier has not highspeed support in that area, but when im midle of my city where my carrier has highspeed data support, the H ("H")come on my screen when im using internet/download data. If you are in 3G area it dosnt meen that you allways can use the (H)SPDA speed, its depend on your carrier
sorry for my poor english but hope u understand what i meen

no proble with your english ;-)
Yes I'm in a HSDPA coverage area and I've test the speed and I downloading with a higher spped than 3G. I've also check with the FieldTest programm and the HSDPA CQI status are Ok to tell me that I'm HSDPA connected.
Are you running windowsmobile 5 or 6 ?
My OS version is 1.23.73.3
My Radio version is 1.50.08.11

Oh my god, there is really something strange : I'm walking inside my office and I juste have got an H icon.
The conclusio is that : The last Radio Rom plus the Registry tweak works inside WM5.
I'm now a happy man.
The explanation, is that behind my PC I've got a poor HSDPA signal
We can close the thread.
F.

Just on question?
is really 656kbps really above normal 3G speed?

in my case when Orange France stuck me to 3Gndslreports show me around 300kb, when i'm hsdpa enable the spped go to 600 kb
yes this normal because the speed are real speed when you read that hsdpa it's about 1,8mb this theorical speed wich are never seen.
One more thing remember that or kilobits and over are kilobytes. the conversion is very simple : 1 bytes = 8 bits
also there difference by measuring IP speed and radio speed. to explain your ISP sales an adsl ne speedup to 18Mb, remeber that this ATM Speed the IP speed is around 40% less due to ethernet and atm overhead ...

Change H to 3G

I did some searching around..but I couldn't really find much on this topic..
I have a custom ROM, I believe it's called Timor.9, and the only thing that bothers me is the H. Is there any way I can just have it say 3G again. I tried installing a cab from the show off your screenshots thread that had the 3G icon, but I'm still stuck with H. Is there something I'm missing?
Thank You

After some messing around in Advanced Config I found it.
It was 'Disable HSDPA Icon' I believe, for reference to others wondering.

Are you just trying to change the icon or are you actually trying to get rid of the HSDPA? HSDPA is definately faster than 3G, that's why you see it in custom ROMs. The chefs activate this hidden feature to improve data transfer speeds.

ftmoe said:
After some messing around in Advanced Config I found it.
It was 'Disable HSDPA Icon' I believe, for reference to others wondering.
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Thanks
Start > Utilities > Adv. Config > Data Connections > HSDPA icon - Disabled > Soft Reset

I've been wondering about this myself. I flashed The Cell ROM AT&T V1 and now V2 and I noticed the 3G was gone. I had no idea what the H was even for but my signal was great and data transfer was also very good so...just a curiosity

djrinc said:
Are you just trying to change the icon or are you actually trying to get rid of the HSDPA? HSDPA is definately faster than 3G, that's why you see it in custom ROMs. The chefs activate this hidden feature to improve data transfer speeds.
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Well if I go disable the icon as shown through Advanced Config...will that get rid of that increased speed? And I'm on T-Mobile, is their whole 3G network HSDPA, because it seems unlikely my area would receive the upgrade so soon..

HSDPA = up to 42 Mbit/s on the downlink and 84 Mbit/s on the uplink
3D = up to 14.0 Mbit/s on the downlink and 5.8 Mbit/s on the uplink
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G

don't be picky - the H tells you the mobile network you have connected to is HSDPA-enabled instead of the slower 3G. I would only start complaining if I was meant to connect to the network on 3G/HSDPA but kept getting an E or G instead

zyphuris55 said:
HSDPA = up to 42 Mbit/s on the downlink and 84 Mbit/s on the uplink
3D = up to 14.0 Mbit/s on the downlink and 5.8 Mbit/s on the uplink
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
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wrong! hsdpa is a subset of 3g. its also called 3.5g on gsm networks and on these phones it only has a max downlink of 7.2mbit. the 3g refers to umts. on gsm it produces less. its legacy on gsm. just like gprs (2g) is legacy to edge ("2.5g" as its dubbed by apple). you will only see an "h" or an "e" because they are they higher speeds at any time. and if youre like att who thinks its better to see hspa as 3g then you can change hklm\software\oem\ril\enablehsdpaicon to 0.

To be really clear here, all you're doing is changing the icon, nothing else. To actually enable and disable HSDPA and/or 3G in the radio requires other changes.
AT&T (and probably lots of other carriers) ship the ROM in such a way that the icon calls "3G" and "HSDPA" the same thing, probably because your average consumer has no clue what either mean, they just want "3G" because they saw it on an ad. AT&T's ROM has HSDPA enabled by default (and why wouldn't it?)