is anybody working on this. shount be that har considering that they have the same resolution
did someone try to extract the cab from the leaked x1 ROMs
i prefer manila 2d, because i believe it's faster than the xperia panels, but you are right....it shouldn't be too difficult to extract it from xperia and adept it to blackstone....
actually. i just noticed that they bumped the memory for the x1 from 288 to 384MB. my guess they did that just for the panels thingy. i doubt that the panels will ever run well on anything other than the x1. maybe sony should rewrite the whole panels thingy as it seems to be very unoptimised. they should hire the pointUI people to do it for them
too bad as the panels seems a lot more usuful on HDs giant screen.
shouldn't be too hard. if i can ever find the cash to get a hd and it comes out i would try it. i seen xperia roms and am pretty sure it should all work.
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I watched a few videos on the Xperia. Looks like a great device. I was curious if anyone has extracted any of the applications from it. I'm especially into the one that I beleive is called XPERIA™ panels. If anyone knows where I can get this and if it will run on a hermes or kaiser let me know.
Thank you
I believe the Xperia isnt even out yet
Yea it wont be out for at least 3-5months + its not even done yrt that was just a demo. Once it comes out bye bye mogul...
It will be hard at this point since very few people are allowed to even handle the device.
The more I keep Reading about it, the more I want it.... I told my wife she could inherit my 8525....
Thank you for the input. I should have read more. I just thought maybe a developer had one for testing or someone out there had access to one. Thanks again though.
yeh, unfortunately it's going to be a while before we get our eager hands on it.
No XPERIA™ panels for Kaiser?
The X1 runs on a 800x400 VGA screen. Think it will be very hard to squeeze XPERIA™ panels (9 mini screens) into our 320x240 Kaiser screen. Just my thoughts tho.
Imho, maybe its more wise to get the device itself. Looking forward to the faster processor and 3" VGA screen, its like a dream device comes true. Cheers.
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I watched a few videos on the Xperia. Looks like a great device. I was curious if anyone has extracted any of the applications from it. I'm especially into the one that I beleive is called XPERIA™ panels. If anyone knows where I can get this and if it will run on a hermes or kaiser let me know.
Thank you
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vga is 640x480. the xperia is not vga, but a different aspect ratio
Hi all:
I have been recently comparing both of these phones and so far find myself leaning towards the xperia simply because for me two things are a must: hardware keyboard and a memory expansion slot. Both of these the Diamond lacks.
What are your thoughts? suggestions?
thesire said:
Hi all:
I have been recently comparing both of these phones and so far find myself leaning towards the xperia simply because for me two things are a must: hardware keyboard and a memory expansion slot. Both of these the Diamond lacks.
What are your thoughts? suggestions?
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Have you considered the Raphael? Best of both worlds. Otherwise, I would shoot for the Xperia.
i would go for Xperia x1.. take a look at the resolution and the amazing bigger screen and ofcrse the card expansion slot
i voted diamond because im getting one on day 1, but im sure, ill get an x1 at some point, and it may well be that the diamond goes to ebay so i can get the x1. it all depends really. i was looking at a vid on yt of the x1, and the panels chooser looks amazing, but when u select one and it goes to home it takes so long. this was way back in feb, so things will probably improve with the new amount of ram. if they do, and its fast at everything ill get one. just like you lot because of the keyboard and microsd.
Rory
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i voted diamond because im getting one on day 1, but im sure, ill get an x1 at some point, and it may well be that the diamond goes to ebay so i can get the x1. it all depends really. i was looking at a vid on yt of the x1, and the panels chooser looks amazing, but when u select one and it goes to home it takes so long. this was way back in feb, so things will probably improve with the new amount of ram. if they do, and its fast at everything ill get one. just like you lot because of the keyboard and microsd.
Rory
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I'd go with the Diamond... The X1 Panels is just an expensive gimmick that does nothing (although I'm gonna try and rip it out of an X1 ROM I have for fun )!
I think the Raphael would be the best of both!
well sonyE are more set in the phone market maybe they will not cut corners with drivers
as rep means alot when you are as big as them
I voted Xperia X1, but will be buying a Diamond. And the only reason behind that is that I think that technically the Xperia X1 is a better device in terms of hardware, but it’s not available yet, and probably not until September / October / November.
As I’m impatient, and the Diamond is a good upgrade from my current Orbit that’s the way I will be going. But come end of the year I might be getting a new shiny X1-mas prezzie.
I vote Raphael!
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/read.php?id=2918&ch=1
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/en/specs.php?id=2522
I voted Diamond because it's here and the Xperia X1 is vapourware. Remember the 990i? How long did that POS take to be released?
Kevin
I'd certainly like to get the Raphael, but it looks like it's Tri-band for the European market, so it wouldn't be very usable in the States. Xperia for me, as keyboard is a must.
http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/exclusive-preview-24-hours-with-the-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/
i find it amusing that the landscape pic show that sonyE are currently using htc xbutton as taskmanager
and the "virtual desktop" system dont seem to be active currently
so so far imho it's more of a htc phone with a htc rom then a htc phone with a sonyE rom
X1 for me, only because of WVGA. The real question is, how soon will XDA-devs have TouchFlo3D ready for it. That would make this choice that much easier.
I'm thinking of Sam_i900.Especially if the rumors are true...
Regards!
if you mean about the mem then will 32GB microSD cards not come along soon and make internal mem les importent?
I'm a hardware keyboard fan, so it's between the Raphael and X1, and currently the X1 seems best to me due to WVGA screen (which will make browsing the web & watching videos much better) and the curved slide, which will make the loss of my Kaiser's tilting screen easier to bear than the no-tilt on the Raphael.
I guess the X1 will be more expensive though... will have to see.
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I'm a hardware keyboard fan, so it's between the Raphael and X1, and currently the X1 seems best to me due to WVGA screen (which will make browsing the web & watching videos much better) and the curved slide, which will make the loss of my Kaiser's tilting screen easier to bear than the no-tilt on the Raphael.
I guess the X1 will be more expensive though... will have to see.
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I doubt the X1 will be as heavily subsidised as the Raphael... Also, I believe the Raphael may still have the kaiser tilt functionality
well for us people in the states are gonna have to stick with the x1 cause of the band limitations of the other devices...
Have you think of the actual screen size?
I just want to point out a fact that maybe misleaded by the public. Everyone is saying that the X1 3 inch screen is larger than the Diamond 2.8 inch. It's correct for the diagonal, but have you calculated the actual physical dimension of each pixel?
I don't go into the detail calculation as it should be easily reproduced...
For a 2.8 inch VGA screen, the width of each pixel is 0.0035 inch.
For a 3 inch WVGA screen, the width of each pixel is 0.00321 inch.
That means all text on a 3 inch WVGA screen is about 8% smaller than a 2.8 inch VGA screen.
However, I'm not saying a larger or smaller screen is the only factor for a buying decision. But the fact should be revealed as well.
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I just want to point out a fact that maybe misleaded by the public. Everyone is saying that the X1 3 inch screen is larger than the Diamond 2.8 inch. It's correct for the diagonal, but have you calculated the actual physical dimension of each pixel?
I don't go into the detail calculation as it should be easily reproduced...
For a 2.8 inch VGA screen, the width of each pixel is 0.0035 inch.
For a 3 inch WVGA screen, the width of each pixel is 0.00321 inch.
That means all text on a 3 inch WVGA screen is about 8% smaller than a 2.8 inch VGA screen.
However, I'm not saying a larger or smaller screen is the only factor for a buying decision. But the fact should be revealed as well.
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But, having more pixels on the screen may make up for the fact they're smaller. You get a lot more pixels with the X1.
However, I think the Raphael is still the best offering...
Panels is a nice idea, but has so little effect, whereas TF3D makes a big difference to usability...
will be interesting to see how the cam in x1 is
as i believe like most other phone makers got a rep
for better cams then htc does
though personaly i think anything Cmos rather then CCD (real dig cams)
look odd and slightly sinister
I cant understand why the development of new panels is so slow. I thought when i got the X1 that there would be a huge influx of panels being developed. I cant understand why Sony Ericsson are not developing panels on a large scale and are leaving it to developers that are not there, i just find this really dissappointing. Please give your views on this.
Well, the panels are kind-of gimmick. They're not useful enough to be mass producing. Had the panels UI been instant and the loading of panels much faster, perhaps. Now, I just prefer TF3D with the panels installed just to remind me I have an X1 xD
I feel like SE doesn't believe there will be much reason in them developing panels on a large scale, but they are certainly pushing to have more panels made. Hence why the content awards will be accepting panel submissions until the end of the month; I would expect at least a few more at that point.
It's also worth noting that, unless I'm mistaken, the X1 was just recently released to the US (well, when I looked around online the US release date was Jan.12). I predict much of the panel development to come from Americans, if not even more so than from European and other nationalities.
i find only one panel usefull and thats the standard 1 or 2 panel. it pretty much has all the info i and programs that i use on it. panels to me is nothing more than a skin of the today panel, at least the way that i use it. im not a power user but i do like to have different options and tweaks.
When is that Ifonz panel or PointUI panel coming around?
i agree with pretty much all.
I prefer touch flo 3d over panels but like having them for the x1 hype. (hey my phone has fish, then win over all of my customers kids.. like touch the fishy and watch them swim.)
however i also believe that since virtually no one even knows of the x1s exsitance yet (excluding us "Nerds" and the world would call us) there is no real need to roll out panel updates.
Well, to me I would have returned Xperia within few days if I didn't discover XDA forums and Touch-HD cabs for Xperia.
But wondering why can't I just get say Diamond Touch or Touch Pro at much lesser cost instead of spending $$$$ for Xperia and then trying to get it too look like Diamond? Since I use AT&T, I can get Fuze at fraction of X1 cost.
I am curious to know why most of you prefer Xperia X1 over HTC phones that have TF3D interface since they cost less.
Well for me, the design of the x1 is very nice. Every time I whip it out others are always very interested. I also like the fact that panels can allow you to have mutiple choices of your today screen. The panel interface DOES look nice and clean cut too. There is a hardset key to get back into it and not to mention the HD touch flo is the best out there! I use the stocks tab ALL the time and I have always been a fan of tf3d. I also like my old school look today screen with weatherpanel, and now I just found the original HTC home in FULL VGA! Ofcoarse, my love for WM. It's the best of both worlds. Don't get me wrong, the x1 DOES have its flaws but I have NEVER owned a WM device that has not. All in all, its the best WM device I have ever had. And I have had WM devices back from the hitachi 1000 which started it all. What a brink that was! LOL
its makes a better device for me.
the WM interface sucks sooo much. staring apps, getting info is pretty much impossible without stylus (while doing anything else like walking, driving or so)
tf3d is just finger friendly. also has some issues but not that much.
Why not choosing the Xperia if you can afford it ??
It's the better phone all around
For me, it was not a matter of PRICE.
I chose the XPERIA because I found it to be a nice blend of high-tech and artwork:
1- metal case (byr bye my ole diamond !!)
2- WVGA beautiful screen (bye bye my ole raphael !!)
3- Full Keyboard (so long Touch HD !!)
4- The BIGGEST RAM available as for Jan 2009
And yes you can keep it "stock" (as I did) or you can put TouchFlo on it, or even ANDROID, whatever... IT's GOD SPEED. Even Touch flo will run faster in a Xperia than in a diamond
gtrab said:
Why not choosing the Xperia if you can afford it ??
It's the better phone all around
For me, it was not a matter of PRICE.
I chose the XPERIA because I found it to be a nice blend of high-tech and artwork:
1- metal case (byr bye my ole diamond !!)
2- WVGA beautiful screen (bye bye my ole raphael !!)
3- Full Keyboard (so long Touch HD !!)
4- The BIGGEST RAM available as for Jan 2009
And yes you can keep it "stock" (as I did) or you can put TouchFlo on it, or even ANDROID, whatever... IT's GOD SPEED. Even Touch flo will run faster in a Xperia than in a diamond
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ditto all that!
Playing with an HD in Orange today (I know, bad bad, was thinking of going to the dark side but glad I chose X1. The HD even though the screen is big and lovely (not that X1's is any less gorgeous) but the thing is just too bulky for me. X1 is the perfect size for me, holding the HD did reminded me of the old days with my XDA IIi and I was sweating thinking of that :OI think the point of the X1 is that it looks quite understating but under the hood you can name all the mobile technologies under the sun and it's all there
All the technologies out there at a great form factor. Only gripe I have is that it does not have even half as many hardware buttons to program as the HTC devices which allows quick selection of apps without touching the screen (stylus or finger).
I have never played with the TF3D software and so my device is pretty stock. Is there an online demo or anything I can have a look at?
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I am curious to know why most of you prefer Xperia X1 over HTC phones that have TF3D interface since they cost less.
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I'm personally use SPb Mobile Shell (not as a panel, but as separate app) as more useful, convenient, fast interface.
It costs just a few bucks and I don't see any reason to pay for TF3D.
Will it be possible? As it is said, that the new touch pro 2 rom is alot more responding than any other before.. The hardware is the same, so the only difference can be the software right?
I like the touch flo but I want a keyboard and the touch pro 2 will be way to expensive when it's out.
Well, hardware IS NOT the same!
Different keyboard, different hardware controls!
Different camera and different apps like a dialer, media panel...
there are a lot of differences in hardware between the two. i just see no reason why our xperia is a lot less responsive than HD td2 or tp2 even cpu intensive things like video playing is about 17%-20% slower. just look at any video review of the tp2 or td2 in youtube to see what i mean
some are saying that the x1 only runs at 400mhz but im not sure about that. i tried an application called nuecpl and it reports that my x1 is already running at 528mkz like the tp2
some genius really need to get to the bottom of this serious problem especially thoes that cook for many platforms like itje,udk,NRG...etc
the good news though is that the chefs over here have done a great job in improving the speed of the default stock roms.
So what about extract software for X1?