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My is Wizard Dead. Please help

I got a used wizard today,it is a few weeks old I also got a cradle with it.
I pluged in the cradle to the USB port and the charger to power, after playing with it for 1-2 hours I placed the wizard on the cradle to charge and after a few mins i noticed that it was over heating. I removed it from the cradle right away and noticed that the battery was droping 1% every minute or so. After it was down to 27% i removed the charger and left only the usb connection and placed the wizard on the cradle again. it was charging fine, when it was up to 90% removed it from the cradle and again was droping fast.
When it was down to around 25-30% of the battery I did a soft reset and since then I can never get it to start again also the red charging light does not show.
What the heck is wrong with it? I also get a light burning smell from the bottom of the wizard where the connector is located.
Any help?
I need your lights guys.

Don't like the sound of the light burning smell, that sounds like an electrical fault. It looks like your battery has died and the wizard battery setup is well known to do this. You need to plug it into the official mains charger (not the usb one) as this has an output of 1A, enough to kick start the wizard battery into life and start the charging. You need to wait a short while though before the light comes on. If this fails try to get a new battery and try that. Any more light burning smells and it needs to go back to the supplier.

I would suggest that you send it back to replace/repair. The rapid dropping of the battery power suggest that it is using power somewhere (illegally). I've heard cases of battery caught on fire, etc. and I won't suggest you to use it anymore until you sort out the 'burning' smell.

First of all thanks for your replys.
I pluged the charger on it and the red charging light came on after a while.
charged for over 6 hours and its still red? I think after been charged should change to green? right?
anyways after all that still doesnt want to turn on. I got it to start a couple of times but only to the point that shows the splash screen with the rom numbers and then it turns back off.
Should I give it a smash across the room on the wall? done that with some other things and worked just kiding.

Forgot to add that up to the point when i did the soft reset the device was working fine except the charge drop. Soft reset was done while it was working ( turned on)..... if thats any help.

i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info

fonec said:
i thinking u need flash phone with jafwm
and here u will find 3 flashs
www.gsm-support.info
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That ain't gonna do jack sh1t to it. If it can't start to get into bootloader, it can't flash....and it's not a flash issue.
Usually the red light means power but not charging - happens to my qtek 9100 when I let it get too flat and I have to remove and insert the battery while the mains adaptor is attached - others have to 'jump start' the battery by directly connecting to a PSU - I wouldn't do this with yours.
From what you have said it sounds like a short somewhere. Any signs of water damage? Warranty? What Wizard do you have and what country are you in?
Richard

I got the wiza 200 O2 xda mini S from a guy in UK from ebay. The idiot sold me a cradle for it with an adaptor that says 12V on it (Like an idiot that I am i just noticed that) but then again how am I supposed to think that he gave me an adaptor that its not made for it when it says on the back of it "for Imate - Kjam". Do you guys think thats what burned the **** out of the unit ?
dont forget that some times turns on shows the ROMS numbers and turns off.

No water damage... I think its on warranty... I live in Greece.

Might not be the cradle - it could be it steps down internally to 5v. Use a meter and check what it outputs to the phone. Warranty with XDA's are 2 years to the *original* purchaser. As they are only supplied with an airtime agreement then that isn't you.
Richard

have you tried changing batteries to a new one? Seriously, thats the easiest thing you could do right now and you could actually get results.

Ok this is what I did.
Removed the baterry from the device,
got a 12V 1 Amp power supply that I had lying around and give it a few shots connecting it to the battery giving it an electro shock.
(If you're going to try this be very carefull.<<<< DONT LEAVE the power supply connected to the battery>>>> just give it a few shots 1 second on and off.
That was it.
It started working, device turned on and now its charging (I think) yellow light is on.
I'm going to leave it on for a few hours and see what happens.
Wish me good luck. I'll let you know soon.

ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.

SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
Battery is drained and its not charging due to a blown fust on the main board.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
Still does not charge. ^%$#%$#$^%$*
Before I replaced the fuse or should i say short it the yellow light would come on for a few min and then red again. Now when I charge the battery with another external power supply the pda comes on for a few mins and then dies again. ( no charging light whatsoever).
Does anyone know where to get a mainboard for it and about how much it costs?
Asking for help again.
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Hey man, sorry to hear about that.
The best you can do is to claim your money from ebay.
You probably killed it when you pluged in the 12V PSU. That's 230% of the normal Volts! Otherwise sell it for parts.

I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.

SmartMan said:
I'm in the process of claiming the money back from the IDIOT that sold it to me.
Lets see if that part of Ebay works as good.
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Doubt it. Did you ask the seller for help before opening the phone and voiding the original warranty on the device?
SmartMan said:
ok... this is what happend.
I open the phone and placed and solder a little wire over the fuse.
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Not a good idea IMO as now the blame is on you as previously he may have been able to get warranty service from the original vendor.
Richard

I did ask.
He is not the original buyer.
what was I suposed to do.... track back 2-3 buyers to find the original... send it to him so he can have it repaired? Anyway it was out of warranty because of the burned fuse that says that some other charger was used with it.

I had a similar thing happen but fortunately not as bad as yours. Twice now my battery has mysteriously drained completely. The last time when I tried to turn the unit on, it flashed the boot screen for a couple of seconds then poof, no more juice. When I plugged it into the USB port, nothing, no lights, no charge, no recognition from Activesync, I thought the unit was fried. I use Tmobile and got to admit they did send me a replacement fairly quickly. Before I packed up my unit I thought maybe I should plug it in using the wall charger and presto, it came on and is working fine. I have no idea what causes this but do know that if the battery is completely discharged the USB port can not over come this to put a charge on.

Same thing happened to me, kind of strange though. The charge was perhaps 70% to the best of my knowledge. I flashed it with Mr. Clean ROM and booted it up.. it came in fine into WM5, then it started the installation of the 3 progs or whatever comes with Mr. Clean.. after the second finished the unit just died *poff*. Screen blank, no responce to power buttons or any other buttons for that matter.
I've tried taking out the battery for different intervals of time, no luck. I've tried using the AC charger, no luck. No lights, sounds, telepathy or matrix ****.. it just lies there like a dummy phone.. hmm what to do. Bought it from a guy in UK (im in sweden) on eBay, don't think I will have much luck there.. even though it's brand new...
Any thouhgts?

I have had this problem - I bought a replacement battery and all is now fine. Another thread in this group states that the battery cannot charge without the OS up - so if the battery is completely discharged then it is impossible to charge through the phone. The only solution seems to be somehow to charge the battery directly - as appears to have been done earlier in this thread.
Chris
p.s. if anyone knows of another way to do it I'd be interested to hear as I'd like to revive my old battery and keep it as a spare

Dead magician...? Red light!

Hi all,
Need som urgent help. The backcover of my device is not fitting well any longer. Guess I´ve bumped it to many times...
As a result (Iguess) I cant turn on or even charge my magician!
The only thing that is happening when I try to charge is that a red light is turned on. What does this mean?
Any solution of how to get it work again?
Is it possible to buy a new back-cover? Live in Sweden.
Thankful for some ideas!
Regards Emil

Most probably the notch on the battery cover that hits the microswitch lever has broken. You will find the microswitch on the lower-right corner of the device when facing down. Put something soft but strong enough (ie. foam) to keep the microswitch in the ON postion then mount the battery cover and temporarily fix it with tape. Be sure to keep your device plugged in via USB or charger in order not to totally discharge the backup battery. If the backup battery gets depleated, then it's like doing a hard reset.
You can buy parts from ebay but I've always bought from Brando and is very reliable dealer (shop.brando.com.hk). Delivery is quite fast too.

Hi Zerimar and thanks for your answer!
Unfortunately that didn´t do the trick. Still the same red light when trying to charge. And I can´t turn it on! I am pretty sure that the battery is flat out by now but even so I would think it would load and then after a while, I would be able to turn it on.
Am really frustrated abt this!
Any more ideas maybe?!?
Regards Emil

u'd better send it to service...

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u'd better send it to service...
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Well, that´s what I´m trying to get around... Thats why I´m hanging around here

If have have my device charged via USB or charger, the LED becomes as soon as I remove the battery cover. If I hit the microswitch lever then the LED turns green and start to boot up. If main battery is removed the LED stays red even though hitting the microswitch's lever.
It looks like it's not charging your main battery or your battery is already defective. If your device is over a year old and you're still using the same battery, then its time to change it. Bulges in a battery is a sign that it needs replacement.
Before sending your device for repair, why not look for someone you know who also has a Magician or equivalent device and quickly borrow his/her battery?

I had red LED when plugging into a main charger - and then the phone reset.

Red LED + loop booting-poweroff = dead battery
If the LED is RED when you charge your device for hours
If the device tries to boot sometimes, but powers off by itself some minutes after (it means, at least, that your device CAN boot! )
Your battery may be dead, I bought a new one for 10Euros on ebay...
Those batteries are perfectly compatible with HTC Prophet or HTC Beetles (Ipaq 6515) and maybe other devices... easy to find!

Hermes bricked? Toasted? Need assistance urgently!

Before anyone jumps on me, I've been going through the Wiki and forums extensively, and found just one similar problem. Which wasn't solved...
My HTC TyTN/Hermes 200 won't boot up anymore. It is totally dead. I even can't get it into bootloader mode. Screen stays blank and the LED is off.
Put the (3 months old) battery in another Hermes to test it, and it's at 100% charge.
My Hermes shows a steady red LED when it's plugged into power without the battery in, and no LED at all when the battery is installed. The red LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I've left the battery out for at least an hour, plugged it back in, same results. Like the other guy I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" trick http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6469&p=1077622 - to no avail.
Does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get it to at least come back up to a boot loader screen ?

check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery

... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected properly
just a test on the opposite side of the battery connectors with battery removed press firmly without putting pressure on the LCD, this worked for me when i had a white screen on power up.
if this fixes the problem you may need to actually dismantle the back and put some flame retardant electrical tape on the back over the existing tape to add an extra layer of pressure and retension

XtreMe_G said:
check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery
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Yes, I have cleaned the contact too, nothing. And the battery is OK for sure, my colleague's TyTN runs on it without any problem.

Mattnokis said:
... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected
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In fact I have, I have totally dismantled and reassembled my TyTN yesterday afternoon, nothing.

the only other problem may be that when being dismantled you may have damaged some sensitive components, Electro Static Discharge will fry sensitive CMOS components, they do not like it at all, whenever dismantling you should wear an earth strap, any time i dismantled mine it was on a workbench with a static mat and i was earthed through the mat.
but this is one possibility, the only other idea is to swap main board and displays with another that works, finding someone willing to allow you to do this with a working hemes is the tough part.
thats as much all i can think of for now

R.I.P. my trustful Hermes 200
Thanks all for your assistance. I have come to the conclusion that my sweetheart is no longer among us. May she rest in peace.
I have obtained a (2d hand) replacement yesterday. May this one last longer.
I'll keep the old TyTN for replacement parts.
Oh well...

Bricked, perchance? - TyTN won't boot

Hey all,
Having served me faithfully for 18 months now, my TyTN has finally given up the ghost. It refuses outright to boot.
Not a splash screen, not a backlight, no response at all no matter how long I hold that power button down.
When I plug it into the mains it displays reddish on the right hand LED, having left it plugged in for a while it stops displaying even that until I unplug it and re-plug it.
I've tested the battery with a voltmeter and the power on the phone with a circuit checker, there's not broken circuitry and the battery certainly generates a current.
Though it's not TOO urgent, as I have a backup phone (Nokia 3220, ugh) unlocked and in use, and it's not TOO horrible as I was about to order a Touch Pro anyway, I'd like to keep it strictly unbricked either for sale or for backup.
Any thoughts on either:
1. What the problem is, I'm absolutely baffled.
2. How I might go about fixing it.
Thanks, Forlornity

If its only displaying a red LED when you plug it in that generally means that the power sensor has been confused or the battery isn't touching the contacts properly.
Are you using the supplied charger or a 3rd party one/usb connection. The usb and most 3rd party chargers don't deliver the right charge. If its underpowered it may not trip the charging sensor.
Try pushing the battery tightly against the contacts, I had a problem whereby the contacts had been pushed in so the battery didn't connect properly.
Clean the contacts with a cotton bud and isopropyl alcohol (surgical spirits) to remove any corrosion. DON'T USE METHYLATED SPIRITS!!! It leaves a residue.
Thats all I can think of now.
Cheers...

Isopropyl you say?
It's a pity, I've actually got meths handy.
I'm using the stock charger, I suspect I might be suffering a RLOD, but none of the usual methods are working...
I'm gonna see if I can get hold of a charging dock for the battery from expansys or suchlike (unless anyone knows anywhere better?), see if that does the trick, if not, new battery, then if THAT fails I'll have no idea
Thanks for the tip on the isopropyl!

forlornity said:
Isopropyl you say?
It's a pity, I've actually got meths handy.
I'm using the stock charger, I suspect I might be suffering a RLOD, but none of the usual methods are working...
I'm gonna see if I can get hold of a charging dock for the battery from expansys or suchlike (unless anyone knows anywhere better?), see if that does the trick, if not, new battery, then if THAT fails I'll have no idea
Thanks for the tip on the isopropyl!
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I have the same problem, and new battery didnt help! anyone got solution for this problem? I menage to charge battery with 2 wires, and phone starts, but it wont charge! i mean orange led is on, and it says CHARGING, but battery % is going down down until it reaches 0%!

S10+ All of a sudden went black and now wont turn on

Unrelated to any custom roms ( I hope this is not offtopic )
S10+ All of a sudden went black and now wont turn on
Vol Down + PWR does not work
PWR 30 sec does not work
Phone was running Android 11 stock.
This morning it behaving strangely ( some app were crashing ). It had no water damage, no mechanic damage of any kind.
After trying to run Strava before starting my run it went black with no way to get it back.
Sitting on the charger for few hours by now with no sighs of life.
Wireless charging - so sighs of life.
Any ideas what can I do with it?
Thank you!

Checked with USB power meter when phone connected to charger:
It consumes 50mA, no difference when Power or any other button combination pressed....

Maybe a battery or mobo failure if it's completely nonreactive ie no sounds or images when plugged into charger.
Try a known good charger/cable.
You could let it sit until the battery completely self discharges and hard resets, but if it's near 100% that would take years with no load.

Oh, I hope this is not mobo I can fiddle with bat but not with mobos
Tried again on wireless charger, charger reacted as if phone is charging. So phone and charger are talking to each other. But still no signs of life. Will leave it charging overnight...

There is a strong suspicion that charge IC is gonsky
Will try to fix it myself, this is going to be fun

mobilemodding.info said:
There is a strong suspicion that charge IC is gonsky
Will try to fix it myself, this is going to be fun
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If it's a multilayered PCB be very careful as they are easily damaged by heat/poor technique. If you don't have experience working with surface mount components and flat packs this isn't the place to learn.
Use lead based rosin core solder only as it flows much better than no lead crap and at lower temps.

Guys! After some time of pokin around I have fixed it!!!!
Check this out
Had to make a FrankenSamsung...

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Guys! After some time of pokin around I have fixed it!!!!
Check this out
Had to make a franketsamsung...
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Balance Herr Frankenstein, balance... K.I.S.S.
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