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Gsensor or Gyrator?

I recently got my HD and need to figure out which auto-rotator is better. Also would like some instructions on how to install. THANK YOU!!!

Hi,
I use Flip it by Wild Berry team, its much simpler to use and configure than the two you mentioned.
http://rapidshare.com/files/172926970/Flip_IT_by_WildBerry_Team.cab
Simply copy the cab to your phone and run the cab. Cant for the life of me remember if it needs a soft reset but if its not working then do one.
Nogs

I did use gyrater but stopped and now use AEButton Plus. I don't now use an automatic rotate app.
AEB+ has a screen rotate function. I have assigned this function to a double press on the OK button.
This allows me to rotate quickly when I want and not automatically. This is my preference since I don't always want the screen rotated.
Find it here: http://ae.inc.ru
I also use it to map the volume up/down to actual up/down and double press for volume control and long press up gives a flash lamp (plamp) and long press down gives auto record on Resco recorder.
AEB+ is shareware but has virtually all the functions available in the unregistered state.

Worked through of few rotational apps but now staying with ChangeScreen. Very easy to use and exclude programmmes (just type in the name). Am finding my list of exclusions keeps growing and wondered whether it is mainly a gimmick.
I think this is because, unless the app is full screen, in widescreen you end up with a long header and footer plate and a lot less screen doing the real business.
Anyway try ChangeScreen .

nogs said:
Hi,
I use Flip it by Wild Berry team, its much simpler to use and configure than the two you mentioned.
http://rapidshare.com/files/172926970/Flip_IT_by_WildBerry_Team.cab
Simply copy the cab to your phone and run the cab. Cant for the life of me remember if it needs a soft reset but if its not working then do one.
Nogs
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Hello nogs,
I did 2 times an reboot, but still it don't works.
Do you have any idea.
btw i have a HTC HD

Personally I'd recommend either Changescreen or FlipIt. Both easy to set up and both work a charm!!

anybody got a clue how to totally remove flip it? ive tried with touch flo on and off and just normally remove and removing through activ sync but it still remains in the list of programs and also when i go to start/settings/menus its in there and the box is checked and when i try to uncheck the box it says "cannot move that item",only other way i can think to get rid of it totally is to reflash the rom ag ain which seems a bit extreme to remove an app.

piebobs said:
anybody got a clue how to totally remove flip it? ive tried with touch flo on and off and just normally remove and removing through activ sync but it still remains in the list of programs and also when i go to start/settings/menus its in there and the box is checked and when i try to uncheck the box it says "cannot move that item",only other way i can think to get rid of it totally is to reflash the rom ag ain which seems a bit extreme to remove an app.
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Some roms have apps embedded into them so you cannot remove them unfortunately

piebobs said:
anybody got a clue how to totally remove flip it? ive tried with touch flo on and off and just normally remove and removing through activ sync but it still remains in the list of programs and also when i go to start/settings/menus its in there and the box is checked and when i try to uncheck the box it says "cannot move that item",only other way i can think to get rid of it totally is to reflash the rom ag ain which seems a bit extreme to remove an app.
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It is a tiny app, just turn it off in preferences and ignore it!

Fallen Spartan said:
Some roms have apps embedded into them so you cannot remove them unfortunately
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im using duttys 3.9 xt and flip it was installed by me seperately
@MaskedMarauder yeah suppose thats the best option although it will probably nip my head and i will reflash anyway

Turning on screen with stylus out?

Hi just wondering how it would be possible to bring the phone out of standby mode when i pull out the stylus from the phone?
The weird thing is that sometimes when i take out the stylus the screen turns on but most of the times i have to just press the button at the top to turn it on.
Would actually rather not do that but to turn on when i want to use it with the stylus.
I used Gyrator but that didn't work.
Any suggestions of apps?

anyone????

You can do that with S2U2.

Well any other programs? I hate SU2U.

Then pocketshield is the programm
I like it more then s2u2

Don't really know what advice to give you here... My HD turns on every time if I pull the stylus out, while it's in standby-mode.
The reason for why it only works some times for you can be a conflict with a program you have installed.

Gyrator works absolutely fine for this function. Can even turn th PDA off too when it is put back (although I don't use this particular function)

I use Gyrator too and it seems to work, it might even be a native HD function.. not sure as I didn't try it before.

I don't have your problem. I didn't add specific software for that however my HD wakes up every time I put stylus out.

i have duttys rom 1.7 and it does this automatically
Maybe its as easy as a registry change?

I second that nikki, my HD does it with no 3rd party programs or ROMs

As far as i remember, it is by default, but you can turn this off with advanced config or HDTweak.. can't remeber which one.
Ciao
Fred

It works like this as default indeed. Check your tweak or other programs that might interfere.

Can't find a single setting in Advanced Config or HD Tweak for anything to do with pulling out the stylus. Also tried AEBplus thinking that this would let me map the pull out action as a key, but this didn't work either.
Does anyone know the registry entry for when you pull out and put back in the stylus? I'd like to be able to set that up so it can run the notes program.

Problem with Stylus!!
has someone an answer for this?
I'd like to switch the automatic wake up off, because my stylus has some failures now, I don't know how to fix it.
Everytime I touch the side of the phone, where the stylus is placed the device is unlocked. seems to be a kind of defective contact. not sure how to explain it correctly. but it's annoying, when I pull my phone out of the pocket it unlocks, or maybe when it put it in, that's not so funny...
how can I switch the stylus-unlock-function off? any kind of registry setting?

Dis-abling the G-sensor?

Hi. I posted my virgin post on the back of a thread some time back, but unfortunately got no replies. I've been scratching my head for ages with my problem and was considering selling my HD, but would really like to keep it as its otherwise a great phone.... My problem is virbration/shakes of the phone rotate my Tomtom app and other app's randomly and frequently. This is a problem for me when I mount my phone on my motorcycle to use it as a satnav. I've made myself tired trawling through the net and on here, but can't find any answers. Did a clear storage to manufactures settings [it would not 'hard reset' for some reason], various rotation 'apps' and HD tweak, but nothing seems to hold the orientation of the screen when subjected to vibration. Been in touch with HTC and they said its possibly my G-sensor not reading my settings, [eg] when the G-sensor is 'dis-abled' in settings, the internet and messaging, etc, screens still rotate when I flip the phone.... Am I right to assume the supposedly obvious that the G-sensor being switched off should stop these certain apps from flipping? Any other things I should know or could try, before I reluctantly send my phone in to HTC service.... Appreciate any advice.....

Go to registry
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor
You'll see two subfolders there - just delete them and auto-rotation will be disabled for ALL aplications (but gsensor will still be working in apps which use it). You can then use changescreen or other soft to set autorotation for certain apps, or map a key to an app which rotates screen - this will give you manual screen rotation.
Alternatively you can find tomtom in those folders and just delete it's entry - this will disable autorotation for tomtom and leave everything else untouched.

WOW.... Well made up! Thanks for your prompt reply and via your great advice my problem seems to be sorted. Deleted the Tomtom folder in registry as you explained, added Changescreen and now I've got the 'stationary' landscape screen I've so long searched for... Brilliant! Out of a learning curve curiosity am I right in saying swithching off the G-sensor via settings should of stopped the screen flipping in the first place?
Further answer or not, thank you 'very' much for making my day and have a good one yourself......
CHEERS!!!

Yes, switching the g-sensor off should disable the auto-rotation. The problem is, that doing it via settings doesn't work and g-sensor is still active Once I've been looking for a way to completely disable g-sensor (to check how this will affect battery life) but I couldn't find anything on the subject. g-sensor enabled applications will still be using it no matter what you set in settings or registry...

Seems strange. HTC told me that switching off G-sensor via settings should stop auto rotation such as messaging and internet which led me to believe I had a problem on my HD and to follow there advice to send my phone into them. Whats the point in having an option to switch it off, if it doesn't have any effect?!... Still, I'm happy now having done what you explained earlier....
Thanks.

g-sensor not fully developed yet

Get my HD2 today upgrade to the latest rom and where is g-sensor support?? No landscape mode??

Euroman28 said:
Get my HD2 today upgrade to the latest rom and where is g-sensor support?? No landscape mode??
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I've just checked and I have all the landscape / portrait switching in the laters 1.66 ROM that I had in 1.48. I know it's unlikely but could you have relied on an additional application to manage the switching that now needs to be reinstalled? Not trying to teach you to suck eggs just making a suggestion.
Regards.

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I've just checked and I have all the landscape / portrait switching in the laters 1.66 ROM that I had in 1.48. I know it's unlikely but could you have relied on an additional application to manage the switching that now needs to be reinstalled? Not trying to teach you to suck eggs just making a suggestion.
Regards.
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just upgraded to 1.66 and have not made any changes and no landcape mode

Install BsB Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

Yes using BSB will provide increased configuration options for screen rotation. I'm thinking though that, as the the screen rotation and Gsensor functionality is not disabled by the upgrade to 1.66 for me or others (I think there would have been more "noise" here if this was a "standard" anomoly experienced by others in relation to this update) perhaps there is a technical fault? Perhaps BSB would not be able to help in that case but you could always try. Screen rotation, landscape mode should work with or without BSB tweaks (to a greater or lesser extent). Maby HTC technical support could help if you can't get it working.
Regards).
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Install BsB Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
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Would I be right in thinking that the problem is you can only go into landscape mode with certain things, like the photos and videos tab, or opera?
If this is the case, then you're absolutely right. Out of the box, landscape only works in a few places. It still doesn't work on Sense in general, even with tweaks that are available here.
Or is it that nothing works landscape for you?

johncmolyneux said:
Would I be right in thinking that the problem is you can only go into landscape mode with certain things, like the photos and videos tab, or opera?
If this is the case, then you're absolutely right. Out of the box, landscape only works in a few places. It still doesn't work on Sense in general, even with tweaks that are available here.
Or is it that nothing works landscape for you?
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I get landscape in camera, photos, music and in Opera and Internet Explorer and then texting and emailing.
But no G-sensor turn then I access Windows start menu holding the phone in landscape position and generally the g-sensor only works then turning from portrait and tilting the phone to the right. Not to the left. the driver not fully implemented?

Euroman28 said:
I get landscape in camera, photos, music and in Opera and Internet Explorer and then texting and emailing.
But no G-sensor turn then I access Windows start menu holding the phone in landscape position and generally the g-sensor only works then turning from portrait and tilting the phone to the right. Not to the left. the driver not fully implemented?
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It's software mate - nothing to do with drivers. It's just the way Sense works.
You'll need to use 3rd party software if you want to do anything other than "default" rotation (as you described), in the apps that you mentioned.
BsB Tweaks allows you to add applications to the list off "rotatable" ones. I've also done an app myself (see PLToggle in my sig), but that works differently. It's triggered by holding the call button down, and just toggles between standard orientation and an orientation of your choice (any of the other 3). It depends what you want to do really, but BsB offers the ability to rotate the screen when you rotate the device, but only in that 1 direction.
There are obviously other apps out there. I'm just giving you a couple of options.
Hope it helps

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It's software mate - nothing to do with drivers. It's just the way Sense works.
You'll need to use 3rd party software if you want to do anything other than "default" rotation (as you described), in the apps that you mentioned.
BsB Tweaks allows you to add applications to the list off "rotatable" ones. I've also done an app myself (see PLToggle in my sig), but that works differently. It's triggered by holding the call button down, and just toggles between standard orientation and an orientation of your choice (any of the other 3). It depends what you want to do really, but BsB offers the ability to rotate the screen when you rotate the device, but only in that 1 direction.
There are obviously other apps out there. I'm just giving you a couple of options.
Hope it helps
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Any idear why HTC choose to limit such a high-end device like HTC HD2?

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Any idear why HTC choose to limit such a high-end device like HTC HD2?
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I don't think that it's a limitation. It's just the way it works. I guess it's a preference thing as it doesn't bother me.
I do know that most of Sense can't be rotated succesfully, but that obviously wouldn't stop them making auto-rotation work everywhere else. The option's there to turn on and off. I guess that's enough for most.

johncmolyneux said:
I don't think that it's a limitation. It's just the way it works. I guess it's a preference thing as it doesn't bother me.
I do know that most of Sense can't be rotated succesfully, but that obviously wouldn't stop them making auto-rotation work everywhere else. The option's there to turn on and off. I guess that's enough for most.
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Just on way Manilla landscape and landscape then using the windows menus would have been nice

Euroman28 said:
Just on way Manilla landscape and landscape then using the windows menus would have been nice
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I expect we'll see more of it in later versions of manila, but that's just a hunch.

[Q] Is it possible to turn off screen rotation completely?

I don't need it, and it's a pain in the a$$ because I often read mail and surf the web before I go to sleep, and laying down with the phone will sooner or later make the screen rotate. Sooner (like at once) with mail, later with websurfing (because I have set the rotation check to a long time on Opera). But can I get rid of that unwanted bull completely and totally? Cab, reg hack, burying a dead cat in a churchyard on a Thursday with full moon, any method will be appreciated!

Mastiff said:
I don't need it, and it's a pain in the a$$ because I often read mail and surf the web before I go to sleep, and laying down with the phone will sooner or later make the screen rotate. Sooner (like at once) with mail, later with websurfing (because I have set the rotation check to a long time on Opera). But can I get rid of that unwanted bull completely and totally? Cab, reg hack, burying a dead cat in a churchyard on a Thursday with full moon, any method will be appreciated!
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Try changescreen and set it to display only in portrait mode.

There is an option in BSB Tweaks to disable rotation. I have it disabled too, however it still rotates in Opera. I'm still trying to figure out how to kill rotation for that program.

kabuk1 said:
There is an option in BSB Tweaks to disable rotation. I have it disabled too, however it still rotates in Opera. I'm still trying to figure out how to kill rotation for that program.
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It seems like the only workaround to the auto-rotate in Opera [9.5/9.7] is by going into the registry:
Code:
HKLM\Software\Opera\GSensor\IdleTime = [enter a large number, like 5555555]
The large number you enter (IdleTime) is the time (in ms) it takes for the screen to change in orientation.
EDIT: Another way is changescreen. If you add opera9 as an exception and set it to display only in portrait mode, Opera will not auto-rotate. It worked after I added it to the exception list and soft-reset.

Thanks! That worked! I have been using that idle time trick before, but that meant that even at the highest setting it would rotate before I went to sleep... And the mail/SMS app I couldn't stop rotating with BSB tweaks. Now it rotates for half a second or so the moment I turn it before it's going back into the correct mode. I would of course like to avoid that as well, but it's a lot better.

Mastiff said:
Thanks! That worked! I have been using that idle time trick before, but that meant that even at the highest setting it would rotate before I went to sleep... And the mail/SMS app I couldn't stop rotating with BSB tweaks. Now it rotates for half a second or so the moment I turn it before it's going back into the correct mode. I would of course like to avoid that as well, but it's a lot better.
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You could go in the registry for changescreen's idle time -- the lower the setting, the less "accidents" I have with the exceptions rotating in different ways:
Code:
HKCU\Software\idevelopstuff\changescreen\Delay = 50 (my setting)
**my changescreen delay time matches my phone's Gsensor's polling time**:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\GSensor\PollingInterval = 50
I hope that helps.

That's weird. I don't have that setting, only five other settings (ReOpenSip, PocketOffNoLight, ScreenOffNoLight, VibrateOnRotation and ScreenOffOnFaceDown). Should I add that setting?

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That's weird. I don't have that setting, only five other settings (ReOpenSip, PocketOffNoLight, ScreenOffNoLight, VibrateOnRotation and ScreenOffOnFaceDown). Should I add that setting?
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I suppose.
I'm just wondering why you don't have it.
In the changescreen app this is what I have checked:
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[B]General Tab:[/B]
-Enabled
-Run on Startup
-Portrait, Landscape (left), Landscape (right)
[B]Advanced Tab:[/B]
-Sensitivity: slider is all the way to the left.
Then I press Save. Then I have that "Delay" value in the registry.

We definitively have different versions of the program, because there is no such slider on my advanced tab. I have one called 2.5, dated the 13th of March 09. What's your version?

ive tried turning mine off, but its very difficult, havent found a solution, ended up bricking my phone once lol

Mastiff said:
We definitively have different versions of the program, because there is no such slider on my advanced tab. I have one called 2.5, dated the 13th of March 09. What's your version?
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Oh, that's why!
I'm running the latest (maybe the final) build -- 2.78. I attached it for your convenience.

Thanks, that helped! I thought the version at the top of the thread was the latest... Silly me. But if I put the delay time any shorter than the 250 ms that's the fastest on the slider it will stop reacting. I will try to experiment with changing the time on the polling interval for the sensor. It's 200 ms on my HD2.
Edit: Setting both sensor polling and Changescreen delay to 50 ms made the flash to landscape and back to portrait go much faster, but it didn't dissappear completely. Still, this is a lot better than having to exit Opera or the tmail program to get the screen the right way again. Thanks!

Why not try downloading and installing the HTC update for the Car Kit Mode.
Then run NaviPanel (in the Windows folder). In the options you can set it so that it stays in either landscape or portrait mode. Select the Home hardware button to continue reading e-mails or whatever.

Sounds interesting, but does that mean that it has to rotate first, and then I have to press the hardware button? If it does, the Changescreen works better because I won't have to press anything, only wait for a few tenths of a second before it pops back to the correct portrait setting.

you could try touch tools
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683951
there is a rotation manager within this set of tools, you can add and also remove programs from the rotation list.
I know opera is in the list as i use touch tools but i wont delete it as i use the rotation.
Hope this helps

Thanks! That was the perfect solution! I simply deleted everything that was in the list, and now it seems like nothing rotates!

Mastiff said:
Thanks! That was the perfect solution! I simply deleted everything that was in the list, and now it seems like nothing rotates!
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awsome glad that helped