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Screen Off = Pause Everything?

I've read posts from people saying that they're able to do things like listen to mp3s, stream radio, etc. with the screen off, so I think there must be something wrong with my phone, because I can't do any of that. When the screen goes off, regardless of whether it's from me pushing the top button or from the phone sitting idle for a certain length of time, all sound stops. It happens both with or without headphones connected.
I think I've searched through every possible setting in the "control panel" area. Is there some registry setting I have to change to make the phone allow programs to run after the screen turns off?
Certain programs will cause the screen to remain on indefinitely. It'll dim after a certain length of time, but it won't turn off. This allows the programs to continue running, but I'd like to get the screen to turn completely off. Is that possible?
I've got a Sprint Touch with the latest official Sprint WM 6.1 ROM and am using Slide2Unlock. Could S2U be causing this?
Thanks for any help.

Brent212 said:
I've read posts from people saying that they're able to do things like listen to mp3s, stream radio, etc. with the screen off, so I think there must be something wrong with my phone, because I can't do any of that. When the screen goes off, regardless of whether it's from me pushing the top button or from the phone sitting idle for a certain length of time, all sound stops. It happens both with or without headphones connected.
I think I've searched through every possible setting in the "control panel" area. Is there some registry setting I have to change to make the phone allow programs to run after the screen turns off?
Certain programs will cause the screen to remain on indefinitely. It'll dim after a certain length of time, but it won't turn off. This allows the programs to continue running, but I'd like to get the screen to turn completely off. Is that possible?
I've got a Sprint Touch with the latest official Sprint WM 6.1 ROM and am using Slide2Unlock. Could S2U be causing this?
Thanks for any help.
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No, you need to do a registry edit on some ROMs.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\ Preferences]
Then see if there is a value called "UnattendedPlayback". If not create a new dword entry and name it "UnattendedPlayback" and set it's value to 1. WMP should now play when in suspended mode.

That seems like it'd only work for WMP. However, I think I found the answer I was looking for.
Changing
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended\WAV1:
to "0" seems to have done the trick. It was originally set to "4".
Now when I use Pandora (which was what I mainly wanted this for), I can turn off the screen and it'll continue playing.

hmm, even after changing both of those registry keys, mine still doesn't work. It pauses for a second when I turn the screen off, comes back for a few seconds, then stops again and continually stops/starts until I turn the screen back on. Any ideas? Thanks

That's what I was experiencing before I changed that registry key.

here's a cab for the second mentioned registry fix.
It's on me and my friend's premium account
so it should stay available for a while.
**Just tested on my phone!!**
*Not sure if it works with other phones besides HTC Touch,
but feel free to try at own risk*
http://rapidshare.com/files/220308931/SHK_Customs_Keep_Music_Playing_Registry_Fix.cab

Easiest solution is to use psShutXP. It will add a shortcut to turn off the display. If you use WisBar you'll get the same option. psShutXP is light, free, and easy to use.

This works for the T-Mobile Wing. It's the second registry edit made into a cab by codybear.
It works for the Pandora app perfectly. BTW, you can get the Pandora app for the Wing and possibly other phones HERE
Registry edit cab attached below for ease of access.

TheChampJT said:
Easiest solution is to use psShutXP. It will add a shortcut to turn off the display. If you use WisBar you'll get the same option. psShutXP is light, free, and easy to use.
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no sense in using another app when you can just change a registry.

Auto KEY lock wanted

What I am looking for is a simple auto key lock, I am not the only one!
S2U2 I have tried and found to be laggy and unstable, essentially it is overkill, as are most auto key lock programs. I want something simple!
When pressing and holding the end key the keypad locks, all i want is a program to do this automatically after a set time delay, without any fancy tricks or graphics - surely this isn't too much to ask?
I am aware that the power button can put the phone to sleep and disable the keys/screen BUT they do not stay disabled if the phone wakes up (when getting a call/message etc.). Only the key lock does this.
As an alternative, does anyone know how to call the key lock software, where is it located in the windows folder? I can try and write something to do this?

I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link

Thanks jcsxda, LockAndOff is pretty close to what i want, now if it could be set to run after a short period of activity, or on device sleep/wakeup then it would be perfect

Im looking for the same thing.
A simple auto lock just like any other phone...
S2U2 is overkill and can miss up someother app.

it is the same as the device lock today shorcut?
sorry, my phone is in my car and im too lazy

VJDeviceLock can be used to automatically lock your phone when you switch it off (actually, when you switch it on but it amounts to the same thing).
You can assign any app to launch on power on, by using the events management functions built into the OS. Eg Memory Maid will let you run apps on power on etc.
V

Thanks Vijay for the great info. shutil.dll is responsible for the device lock on windows mobile when you press the today plugin for locking.
Do you know a command to use this DLL (to put in Memory Maid) ?
Is there a rundll32.exe like on desktops or something

VJ you are a star!
Exactly what I've been looking for. A little fiddly to setup, but shouldn't be a problem for anyone unless they are a total newbie!
Now it's setup it is perfect.
Thank you very much, donation on the way!

@jrg1967
Many thanks for the donation! For various personal reasons, I went cold turkey off XDA Devs for about a year, but I'm really glad to be slowly getting back into it. It's amazing how strong this community is, internationally!
@el_lo:
Although there is an API for enabling the lock, when I tried to implement it when WM5 first came out, for VJDeviceLock, it wasn't well documented, so VJDeviceLock does something else that I can't remember now to enable the lock.
I don't believe that there is a rundll32 type app on Windows Mobile. It wouldn't be hard to make one, but then you'd still be running an external app!
I believe that VJKeyPress can also be used to enable the keylock, and there are other 3rd party apps.
HTC may well have built in some function to enable the lock through ROM based software, but for me, VJDeviceLock serves me well.
V

@VJ, you have the makings of a commercial piece of software there- it is very hard to find a simple program to do this, as the poll bias shows. You just need a user friendly settings program to deal with the command lines and make it easy to use. I am sure it would appeal across the WM community...

yeh would be great for the phone to autolock after a set period of time like other phones. ok the screen turns off after 30seconds but it doesnt lock the keys. seems strange why this feature isnt already on the phone...

Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V

I'm using Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL) works like a charm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451

Hey Vijay, glad to see you around!

jcsxda said:
I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link
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thanks..seems like the lock app i was looking for.
X1 is like a mini comp....anyone can mess around with it if u leave it unlocked

Hi VJ,
It's still working great! Don't make this over complicated, as you can see from the poll people want a simple solution. Now I have it setup it's working just as needed, the standard unlock screen is fine, but the setup was a pain! So, IMHO all that is required is a simple front-end allowing to choose the options, rather than having to enter a command line. More complicated solutions to this issue are already available, so keep it simple.
Options for keylock/password lock at sleep and/or after a set time interval is probably all that is required.

BTW, X1 does NOT have accelerometer.

just having the regular keylock automatically come on after x amount of seconds would do me. no fancy screensavers, passwords or swiping the screen or anything like that. i noticed on diamond tweak there was an option for the keylock to come on when the standby kicked in and the screen goes off, doesnt work on the x1 though but that feature would be ideal.

vijay555 said:
Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V
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you can make it very simple.assign lock software to power off button.when you display is off you phone ll be locked.this ll be lovely.thank you

Hi Vijay,
I was also trying to develop a simple autolock program. Because I couldn't find any locking program that can prevent X1BC from capturing the keys. What I need is something that kills X1BC just before locking, and re-launches it after unlocking. Currently, I am able to lock the device and kill X1BC when the display dimms, but detecting the unlock is a problem. Do you have any idea how I can detect the unlock? (My program is using the lock mechanism of QuickMenu and that is using the built-in lock).
Cheers

How to prevent rotation (not the usual opera thing!)

For some reason even though it never used to do it, my touch hd has begun to rotate the screen automatically when it's in my pocket etc.
When I press the standby button to wake it up it's usually the wrong way up now, and it's annoying having to wait a few seconds to rotate the correct way round. It never used to do this, but it would still rotate things like opera and photos etc by turning the phone and that's great.
Why would it have begun behaving like this? I have got Gyrator installed but have never set anything up on it and it's been there for ages so I doubt it's that.
Cheers!

Have you upgraded with any og the Gyrator / G-Sensor cabs?
Regardless - search for "changescreen" on the Themes/Apps/S/ware forum and use that to set programs you do not wish to rotate.

Thanks mate.
No I haven't upgraded the gyrator cab or the G sensor one (I don't think anyway....).
As I say I haven't even used gyrator as I'm not certain how to set it up and decided I didn't really need to anyway.
Have installed changescreen (cheers for the tip) and set Manila in it to only have upright portrait mode. It seems to work but not quite fully.
For instance, if I have the phone on its side (landscape) and on standby, then wake it up, it comes on in landscape.
It does then change to portrait after a couple of seconds, even if it's on its side so the software does what it should do, but that delay while it kicks in is still pretty annoying to be honest.
Is that normal with this app?
Bottom line is that the phone didn't do this until recently so there must be something that has changed and can therefore be undone, but I don't know what.
Appreciate the help.

[REQ] Disable Touch Panel from shortcut

I have tried to make this myself but im not the best at c# I was hoping someone would like to write a small app that disables and enables the touch panel without using the gsensor or light sensor or nav sensor. i want to use this with a mort script so it would launch the app to disable touch panel then run the rest of the script then launch the app to enable it. i don't care if its two separate apps. if someone can help i would appreciate it so much. thanks

This isn't an actual shortcut, its a bit better than that if you ask me.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sensorlock.html
Basically you just spin the phone in your hands and it will lock, watch the video, it shows what to do
I've also found an application called sleep, I used that for a while but now I'm on WinMo 6.5 and I just use the lock button instead. Just do a quick google for a program called sleep, shouldn't be too hard to find.
And also there is an inbuilt lock thingie where you can set your phone to lock the screen if you hold down the end call button for like 5 seconds but that one is a bit of a pain cause you gotta hold it for ages before it locks and then when you try to unlock it is hard especially if youre outside with the sun shining.

AdamHC said:
This isn't an actual shortcut, its a bit better than that if you ask me.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sensorlock.html
Basically you just spin the phone in your hands and it will lock, watch the video, it shows what to do
I've also found an application called sleep, I used that for a while but now I'm on WinMo 6.5 and I just use the lock button instead. Just do a quick google for a program called sleep, shouldn't be too hard to find.
And also there is an inbuilt lock thingie where you can set your phone to lock the screen if you hold down the end call button for like 5 seconds but that one is a bit of a pain cause you gotta hold it for ages before it locks and then when you try to unlock it is hard especially if youre outside with the sun shining.
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thanks for the response, i have used sensorlock and it is a great app but i want the screen lock so i can run script that involves buttons press while the phone is in my pocket

question about SIP default
i know this may not be the most appropriate thread to put this question on, my apologies. From the title I thought it may be. Anyhow, I installed phm registry editor and am trying to learn to use it, but not sure how to find something im wanting to change. My SIP default seems to be that anytime i open my sms inbox, or email, etc, my keyboard pops up without me selecting it to do so. I want to change it so it only pops up when I select the little tab/icon to MAKE it pop up.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance.

Gyrator and rotation during call

I was wondering if any one knows if Gyrator can be set to "not" rotate during a call? As it is now when I am talking ,and maybe need to click over to call waiting my screen goes to landscape...and then lags to go vertical so I can hit the right key.
The same when I want to hang up, when I pull away from my ear the screen is in landscape.
I would appreciate any help please........Thank you!:
Again, I am trying to stop rotation during a call. Also I am using a Sprint Touch Pro

Don't think it's possible with Gyrator? Use ChangeScreen + InCall Screen Tweak

Kraize, I appreciate that info, but could you walk me through that process you described? Is that an entry I would add as an event in Gyrator? Thanks again.....Marc

Eagleland,
This was driving me crazy as well but I figured out how to disable rotate in a call.
Create a new event in gyrator and set the application to phone. Then set orientation to portrait, and action to rotate screen. Finally, make sure that it is promoted above Rotate in the priority list.
I did this earlier today and so far it has been working for me.
*Also* - Make sure that Orientation is checked under that menu where edit event is located.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this can be done for any program you don't want to rotate.

Nox....thank tou so much for the info. I have not been able to test it yet, but I will let you know.
I am having no fun trying to figure Gyrator out! It would be nice if they had a manual or a better tutorial, don't you think?
Thanks again! Have a nice holiday!

yeah, i hit that problem too, but in gyrator options, there are some entries to disable it for some apps, like opera or touchflo. based on those, i did one for iconsoft phonex, because that's what i'm using. and it's working perfect, though i wouldn't have it any other way.
also, it's the exact same thing nox is talking about.

Hi Gordon and NOX! Wheel I want to say thanks again for the info. But I seem to still have the problem of the screen rotating while I am in the middle of a call? Nox, I followed your direction and maybe I did something not quite right.
First of all ,when I press the talk button and the phone keypad comes up, it will rotate. Then I placed a call, and as I pulled the phone away from my ear, it was again in landscape. Orientation is supposed to be checked all of the time correct? Is there something I may have missed?
Thanks again, Eagleland

Here's how I did it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3406887&postcount=1170

Hi tnyynt....thanks for your help also. Weel, i tried it the way you described and that didnt' work also. Is maybe because I have to do a soft reset? Also should orientation be cheched in the event menu? I appreciate your insight.
Have a good evening...Eagleland

use the app "changescreen"...IMO it is much easier to use than gyrator..
go to the "exceptions" tab and add "cprog", select portrait and your done.
I also use smartlock to lock the phone during a call, along with the InCallScreenTweek and now there is no more opening applications during a call..
the screen rotation and opening of applications during a call drove me insane for awhile...

I am still having problems getting my phone to stop rotating during a call, and frustration is setting in. I am wondering if it is because I am using a Sprint HTC Pro. Does anyone know if the Changescreen App would work better than
Gyrator on a Pro. I installed the touch screen tweak and it wot
ks well but does not stop the screen rotation.
I am missing something , and can't seem to pin it down.
I would appreciate any insight once again.....I am offering to pay someone that can give me the answer....seriously!!
Thanks again, Eagleland

nox357 said:
Eagleland,
This was driving me crazy as well but I figured out how to disable rotate in a call.
Create a new event in gyrator and set the application to phone. Then set orientation to portrait, and action to rotate screen. Finally, make sure that it is promoted above Rotate in the priority list.
I did this earlier today and so far it has been working for me.
*Also* - Make sure that Orientation is checked under that menu where edit event is located.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this can be done for any program you don't want to rotate.
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hi thanks all is working and it help me a lot - info 4 others read carefully and it is gonna work
thanks

Eagle,
I did what nox said and was still having issues like you. Then I went back into the event I created in gyrator to look through the settings and noticed my problem. When choosing the application ("phone") the first time, I only single clicked it and moved on. When I came back to edit, I noticed no app was selected, so this time I DOUBLE-CLICKED "phone" as the application and now it works perfect!!
Hope this helps. It's exactly what I (and presumably you) was looking for.