g-sensor not fully developed yet - HD2 General

Get my HD2 today upgrade to the latest rom and where is g-sensor support?? No landscape mode??

Euroman28 said:
Get my HD2 today upgrade to the latest rom and where is g-sensor support?? No landscape mode??
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I've just checked and I have all the landscape / portrait switching in the laters 1.66 ROM that I had in 1.48. I know it's unlikely but could you have relied on an additional application to manage the switching that now needs to be reinstalled? Not trying to teach you to suck eggs just making a suggestion.
Regards.

cMMY69 said:
I've just checked and I have all the landscape / portrait switching in the laters 1.66 ROM that I had in 1.48. I know it's unlikely but could you have relied on an additional application to manage the switching that now needs to be reinstalled? Not trying to teach you to suck eggs just making a suggestion.
Regards.
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just upgraded to 1.66 and have not made any changes and no landcape mode

Install BsB Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305

Yes using BSB will provide increased configuration options for screen rotation. I'm thinking though that, as the the screen rotation and Gsensor functionality is not disabled by the upgrade to 1.66 for me or others (I think there would have been more "noise" here if this was a "standard" anomoly experienced by others in relation to this update) perhaps there is a technical fault? Perhaps BSB would not be able to help in that case but you could always try. Screen rotation, landscape mode should work with or without BSB tweaks (to a greater or lesser extent). Maby HTC technical support could help if you can't get it working.
Regards).
mazzarin said:
Install BsB Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
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Would I be right in thinking that the problem is you can only go into landscape mode with certain things, like the photos and videos tab, or opera?
If this is the case, then you're absolutely right. Out of the box, landscape only works in a few places. It still doesn't work on Sense in general, even with tweaks that are available here.
Or is it that nothing works landscape for you?

johncmolyneux said:
Would I be right in thinking that the problem is you can only go into landscape mode with certain things, like the photos and videos tab, or opera?
If this is the case, then you're absolutely right. Out of the box, landscape only works in a few places. It still doesn't work on Sense in general, even with tweaks that are available here.
Or is it that nothing works landscape for you?
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I get landscape in camera, photos, music and in Opera and Internet Explorer and then texting and emailing.
But no G-sensor turn then I access Windows start menu holding the phone in landscape position and generally the g-sensor only works then turning from portrait and tilting the phone to the right. Not to the left. the driver not fully implemented?

Euroman28 said:
I get landscape in camera, photos, music and in Opera and Internet Explorer and then texting and emailing.
But no G-sensor turn then I access Windows start menu holding the phone in landscape position and generally the g-sensor only works then turning from portrait and tilting the phone to the right. Not to the left. the driver not fully implemented?
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It's software mate - nothing to do with drivers. It's just the way Sense works.
You'll need to use 3rd party software if you want to do anything other than "default" rotation (as you described), in the apps that you mentioned.
BsB Tweaks allows you to add applications to the list off "rotatable" ones. I've also done an app myself (see PLToggle in my sig), but that works differently. It's triggered by holding the call button down, and just toggles between standard orientation and an orientation of your choice (any of the other 3). It depends what you want to do really, but BsB offers the ability to rotate the screen when you rotate the device, but only in that 1 direction.
There are obviously other apps out there. I'm just giving you a couple of options.
Hope it helps

johncmolyneux said:
It's software mate - nothing to do with drivers. It's just the way Sense works.
You'll need to use 3rd party software if you want to do anything other than "default" rotation (as you described), in the apps that you mentioned.
BsB Tweaks allows you to add applications to the list off "rotatable" ones. I've also done an app myself (see PLToggle in my sig), but that works differently. It's triggered by holding the call button down, and just toggles between standard orientation and an orientation of your choice (any of the other 3). It depends what you want to do really, but BsB offers the ability to rotate the screen when you rotate the device, but only in that 1 direction.
There are obviously other apps out there. I'm just giving you a couple of options.
Hope it helps
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Any idear why HTC choose to limit such a high-end device like HTC HD2?

Euroman28 said:
Any idear why HTC choose to limit such a high-end device like HTC HD2?
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I don't think that it's a limitation. It's just the way it works. I guess it's a preference thing as it doesn't bother me.
I do know that most of Sense can't be rotated succesfully, but that obviously wouldn't stop them making auto-rotation work everywhere else. The option's there to turn on and off. I guess that's enough for most.

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I don't think that it's a limitation. It's just the way it works. I guess it's a preference thing as it doesn't bother me.
I do know that most of Sense can't be rotated succesfully, but that obviously wouldn't stop them making auto-rotation work everywhere else. The option's there to turn on and off. I guess that's enough for most.
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Just on way Manilla landscape and landscape then using the windows menus would have been nice

Euroman28 said:
Just on way Manilla landscape and landscape then using the windows menus would have been nice
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I expect we'll see more of it in later versions of manila, but that's just a hunch.

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Landscape keyboard?

Is it possible to get a keyboard similar to the full QWERTY keyboard, but in landscape mode instead? making it even easiyer to type?
Resco Keyboard also works in landscape (and great to).
kareem9nba said:
Resco Keyboard also works in landscape (and great to).
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ya, but it ain't free :S
Just switch your screen to landscape and your keyboards will be in landscape as well.
Silly question, only had my phone a couple of days but how do you change to landscape mode, so far I only have managed to flip the screen in opera but nothing else?
Kueh said:
Just switch your screen to landscape and your keyboards will be in landscape as well.
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Well, i just basicly want to text easier, if i flip my phone sideways, it remains the same while texting, i dont understand what you mean, i cant switch it to landscape, can i? how?
you need GSen for screen rotation in virtually all windows except TF3D.
look it up in the forum stickies
Well i cant get gsen to work for me, or even the newer thing
install gsen, tap gsen toggle, you should get a message "Gsen is already working. Turn it off?" or smth like that. like i said, it works in all windows except TF3D.
if that doesn't work for you, flash another rom that has gsen incorporated.
if you still have problems, re-calibrate your gsensor.
worked for me.

Motion Sensor in all apps

Is there any way to make the motion sensor working in all applications?
I really would like the screen to be turned also in the acrobat reader for example...
Gsensor is the solution....
The GSen is indeed a good app to do the trick on the HD. Take a look here (also to download):
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_util.html
I guess there will be more apps for it, but don't know them yet.
Regards,
GreenFrog
Gyrator 2
Some say it's better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427805
GreenFrog said:
The GSen is indeed a good app to do the trick on the HD. Take a look here (also to download):
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_util.html
I guess there will be more apps for it, but don't know them yet.
Regards,
GreenFrog
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Exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks!
On my HD I cannot have Gsen launch at startup as I get an error message about it not being able to access the G-sensor.
I have to wait for TF3D to load and then load it manually. Not a biggie but a niggle - but less of a niggle than not having my screen reorient as I need it.
Insaneboy said:
Gyrator 2
Some say it's better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427805
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Yes, it is. More flexible, comfortable und stable.
Is there a way to get Gyrator to autostart?
Another thing is that when I push the -close all programms- button. It closes Gyrator as well. Is there a way to keep Gyrator running on the background?
Auto start and stop it closing
I couldn't get on with GSEN and had similar problems launching gyrator at start up....
so I wrote the simplest Mortscript....and attached it.
Just edit the script (if your Gyrator is intalled elsewehere, otherwise leave it), and copy a shortcut to the script to your startup folder.
Change the delay time till it fits for you.
You'll also need to download and install mortscript, but it's extremely useful & free!
see http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=ms_overview&action=view
As for stopping it closing, click the tools (the spanners) in the HTC task drop down (where you go to close all apps) and set gyrator2 to exclusive.
Job done
Both apps work fine for me.
The only problem I have is within opera.
If I turn the screen, then opera turns, but then in the next second it turns back to portrait.
Opera is excluded from doing anything in both apps.
(Off course I only use one app at the time)
Any help for that?
no problem with opera here, using gyrator. turns screen in every direction i turn the device, except upside down.
gyrator works fine, although if you lock the device it will rotate your today screen as well. a bit annoying when the device is in your pocket the wrong way, answering a phonecall is kind of a challenge.
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
ulischultz said:
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
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Well Opera can be rotated with the motion sensor by default, try adding it in the Gyrator exceptions.
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Well Opera can be rotated with the motion sensor by default, try adding it in the Gyrator exceptions.
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It is in the exceptions by default.
No help with that!
Hello
I tested both and Gyrator 2 is better as GSEN
More reactive
ulischultz said:
Still the same problem:
Using gyrator with the default settings, my Opera Browser first rotates to landscape when turning the device to landscape as it should.
Then after 2-3sec it rotates back to portrait even if the device is still holded in landscape.
Any idea?
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I have the same problem!
Any solution yet?
Gyrator 2 was working fine but now I have a strange problem with it. After a softreset everything works as should, but for some reason after a little while whenever I turn the device in lanscape the creen reverts back to the TF3D tab in portrait that I had last used. Is it a setting that does this? When I disable gyrator 2 everything is fine, but then not everything rotates as I would like it to.
I have added two execptions to the standard ones, the today screen and the incoming call screen.
If anybody know an answer or has (had) the same problem I'd appreciate a fix/solution.
thanks!
Or MobileMagic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
Which does not have issues with Opera...
And allows also to force apps to certain rotations....
But every app has its pros and cons...
Being a Newbie to winmob (formerly UIQ3) I am finding that Gens is OK on mosts screens but not on Home Page and the other TouchFlo screens. Am I doing something wrong - or probably stupid?
I was having lots of problems with all my apps. They seemed to only rotate sometimes, and I couldn't have the device even slightly flat or the rotation wouldn't occur.
I just was playing around with gyrator 2, went into edit event for (disabled) opera, orientation and checked all but the last two options and hit apply.
Opera is still showing as disabled, but what a difference!
Rotates really quickly, and when almost flat as well!

Home/Today-Screen for Landscape mode on HD? (maybe from the Touch pro (Raphael))

Hi,
I want to use my HD in Landscape mode in the car, mostly for Navigation purposes, but sometimes also 'just' as a phone. (I need the landscape mode to have full functionality of Navigon MN7). The Problem is that the TF3D supports only portrait mode. Is there a possibility to (automatically) use a different Landscape-Today-Screen when turning the device and get back to TF3D when turning back to portrait? The Toch pro has a kind of Landscape today-Screen, although it's not TF3D... could there be a possibility to use that somehow? or just any other sensible possibility without switching off tf3d or manually using second today or something?
regards jan
really no one any ideas/suggestions? am i the only one who has that "problem"?
Have you tried GSen or Gyrator 2?
From what I understood it will fit your needs. Search for any of them here on forum.
i know about programs like gsen or gyrator, but that's not the point... the point is that the tf3d today/home screen itself is not available in landscape mode.
Another problem seems to be, that there are certain applications, who change the orientation again.
When I set orientation to landscape and start Navigation, it works as expected. Then a call comes in and the phone application turns everything back to portrait ... no way, to go back to landscape anymore. Is there a way to tell the phone app, not to turn the screen back again?
By the way, on the touch diamond the phone app runs in landscape, when this is the actual orientation ...
hausen said:
i know about programs like gsen or gyrator, but that's not the point... the point is that the tf3d today/home screen itself is not available in landscape mode.
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i believe you just answered your own question.
if you look at the raphael, the landscape mode requires an entirely different set of graphics and frames and layouts. it is not a simple rotate of the portrait view. On HD, that set of graphics, and frames do not exist. I _believe_ even if the GSEN or gyrator will rotate the homescreen to landscape, you would get some pretty ugly results. i haven't tried myself.
Yep it's like an untuned tv on the right. I really like it
Having said that if anyone does port the graphics...

Permanent landscape view? + SOLVED +

This is the deal breaker for me.
The lack of keyboard will be better if I can make the screen horizontal as I do on my TyTn II. My screen is permanently on ladnscape mode.
As it looks better and there is no lag when switching.
Possible on the HTC Touch HD?
From the manual I read online and playing with it at the store I think its not possible.
Any info?
Thanks
Solution:
To remain constantly in landscapde mode:
You will need to rotate the screen and switch the phone dialer menu(screen) from the default HTC one to the WM dialer menu.
There are plenty of ways to rotate the screen and one way to switch from HTC dialer to WM.
N.B: You must disable the HTC Touch Flow 3d home menu by deselecting from the Home menu in settings.
To change to WM dialer from HTC dialer:
1- Download and install HD Tweak (thanks montecristoff & co.)
2- Use it to change the dialer to WM dialer.
To rotate the screen:
* Search on the forum for the registry tweak to make the option of selecting either landscape or portrait appear. Then go to Start/Settings/Screen and select landscape.
or
Use software like pbar or quickmenu or spb pocketplus to rotate the screen. Obviously pbar or quickmenu are preferable because they are free and very useful (thanks creators).
Cons:
1- With the WM dialer, you loose the ability to make video calls. Its not forever though, you can easily switch to HTC dialer from the HD tweak app.
2- You fore go the HTC Touch Flow 3d home screen. You will probably need to get SPB mobile shell or similar.
Pros:
1- Screen looks damn nice in landscape mode, or as I like to refer to it as wide screen!
2- More text in a more natural perspective. Things dont look so narrow.
3- Typing onscreen is much easier because the virtual keyboard is larger/wider.
I prefer this way because I did not like the way my previous TyTn II (Kaiser) lagged when it rotated from portrait to landscape every time I opened/used the physical keyboard. So I decided to keep it landscape. Turned out to be the best(my) option.
No landscape mode is supported! only TF3D today plugin doesnt support landscape!
so you will not have a problem!
Most software will work in landscape mode - see the FAQ:
"How do I make all applications turn when I rotate the HD?
Not all applications respond to the g-sensor (screen rotation)
There are a number of applications (eg. Gyrator2, GSen) that can help work around this issue. "
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneFAQ
Not sure which applications work in landscape and which don't though, but you'd get most of them in landscape.
The Keyboard is pretty usable in portrait with such a big screen too.
I want it in landscape mode permanently!
Not with some applications...
Well u can rotate today screen aswell but it wont look as nice.Tobad it rotates back though when u return from an applicaiton to the today screen.
But that should be fixable. Just try to rotate today via the built in rotate setting and u will se how it looks.
It looks a little weird on the right side of the screenshot but it disapperas immedeiately.
I use SPB mobile shell & SPB diary combined as my today screen.
So I wont be using HTC's today screen at all.
CorruptedSanity said:
I want it in landscape mode permanently!
Not with some applications...
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Just use HD Tweak to enable the permanent landscape option.
chr5s11, in a hurry, could u plz give me the link to hd tweak.
CorruptedSanity said:
chr5s11, in a hurry, could u plz give me the link to hd tweak.
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http://montecristoff.webs.com/
thanks a lot.
I could not find the tweak to enable landscape mode.
Something else you could try - install AE Button Plus, map one of the buttons (e.g. volume up) to "rotate screen", rotate the screen to the orientation you want, then re-load AE Button Plus and un-map the button. That should do it? I'm not entirely sure whether this will stick when you turn off or soft reset your device though...
Alternatively you could do what I have done, and map a long press of volume up to rotate one direction and long press of volume down to rotate the other way. There are occasions where portrait mode is better, others where landscape is better. Also means that volume controls still work as intended when pressed normally. I find gsen and gyrator a bit tempremental at times, so prefer having manual control over the rotation.
Even this will not cause proper rotation if your looking to stay in landscape. tf3d will not work in landscape without some sort of bodge from the diamond. I use my htc device in a car with landscape gps apps. I gave up on tf3d as maybe i don't need it because i've got voice commander. I set gyrator to switch to the phone app and rotate if the phone was landscape and happened to be on the manilla screen. I wanted the phone app to be landscape so i can see who i'm voice calling while in the car. this works, but if you switch to another app then back to the phone then the phone goes portrait and then only re shaking and landscaping the phone gets it to go landscape. Really I don't want to touch it when im driving. I guess I could set a voice command to rotate but I dont think its worth it. I also tried unhiding the landscape with a reg edit but once again the phone app re-portraits. Im now going to try a hreset and stoping the customize incase that affects the phone orientation if not im going a hunting a reg setting as maybe there is one that causes the phone app to portrait? I swear this was easier on my universal but i refuse to give up (and im kinda having fun )
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Even this will not cause proper rotation if your looking to stay in landscape. tf3d will not work in landscape without some sort of bodge from the diamond. I use my htc device in a car with landscape gps apps. I gave up on tf3d as maybe i don't need it because i've got voice commander. I set gyrator to switch to the phone app and rotate if the phone was landscape and happened to be on the manilla screen. I wanted the phone app to be landscape so i can see who i'm voice calling while in the car. this works, but if you switch to another app then back to the phone then the phone goes portrait and then only re shaking and landscaping the phone gets it to go landscape. Really I don't want to touch it when im driving. I guess I could set a voice command to rotate but I dont think its worth it. I also tried unhiding the landscape with a reg edit but once again the phone app re-portraits. Im now going to try a hreset and stoping the customize incase that affects the phone orientation if not im going a hunting a reg setting as maybe there is one that causes the phone app to portrait? I swear this was easier on my universal but i refuse to give up (and im kinda having fun )
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Again, in either HD Tweak or Advance Config, there's a bit where you can check which phone dialer skin is used (I think HD Tweak) maybe if you try setting the phone dialer to the original WM 6.1 dialer instead of the HTC one it might not keep switching back to portrait? You won't be able to make video calls, but that may be something you don't mind losing... I know I never use it...
No thats fine, I have ugly friends
woohoo thanks guys no more poking around in the dark with reg settings for me hd tweak did the job!
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woohoo thanks guys no more poking around in the dark with reg settings for me hd tweak did the job!
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I believe he is woohoo'ing because if you switch from HTC dialer type to WM dialer type via HD Tweak (you do loose the ability to make a video call), it then no longer rotates back to portrait mode after you switched to landscape.
Prior, it would remain in portrait mode till you accessed the dialer screen, then for some reason it would rotate back to portrait mode.
Now with the WM dialer style, it stays permanently in landscape mode.
This is with TF3d disabled of course.

Accelerometer Home Screen Rotation

I've searched the xda-developers > T-Mobile USA HTC HD2 > T-Mobile USA HD2 General forum threads for an answer and also popped into Google for a few rounds of "Guess your real search terms", but haven't found anything yet.
I would like to see a true Accelerometer-based rotation for our phones, especially the Home Screen.
Yes, I am aware that many of the programs like the camera, SMS, Opera, etc. have this availability, but I was thinking of something more like what the iPod Touch / iPhone can do.
Does anyone know if this is in the works by htc?
Is this something that could possibly be done in a kitchen?
BsB Tweaks will work, however it will break the nice cover flow of the pictures and music Tabs.
RKnight1983 said:
BsB Tweaks will work, however it will break the nice cover flow of the pictures and music Tabs.
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Yeah, not so much.
If you're using several modified versions of Manila files, it will not "break" the scrolling or screens at all.
Sense 2.5 supports landscape orientation, just NOT for devices without hardware keyboards.
Anyway, yeah... I've used "BsB Tweaks v1.6" to support landscape orientation for all of the Manila home screens. The only screen that has issues is within PEEP. Nowhere else have I come across issues while using landscape mode.
I've used the "Rotate Screen" program to change between Landscape and Portrait, but that's not what I was looking for.
I want to be able to switch between Portrait (0) to Landscape (270) to Portrait (180) to Landscape (90), back to Portrait (0 or 360) just by turning the phone.
If you've ever played with the Album on an iPod Touch, you'll know what I mean.
Basically, if I turn my phone sideways, the screen should shift to match as Landscape (270), then if I turn it so that the speaker is down and the mic is up (90), the screen should be upside down, portrait style, all the way around until I return my phone to the usual mic-down, speaker up portrait style, effectively making a 360-degree turn, with the screen following all the way.
I realize this is probably complicated to read, it was certainly hard to write
search for a cab file here on xda called "total landscape".
ryan562 said:
search for a cab file here on xda called "total landscape".
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I was under the impression that "total landscape" only worked for 0 and 270 and had to be done manually. Am I mistaken?
If you have NOT seen this yet, then I'm sure you'll be able to appreciate it.
It's pretty sweet...
ChangeScreen v2.78
I wish they were still developing it.. but unfortunately as is it doesnt work too well for my TMOUS HD2...
shame that..

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