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Ok so moving from Wizard to Herald...

I upgraded from my beloved Wizard/MDA to the sexy Herald/Wing....my concerns:
- I got alot of cool registry hacks and what not from here for the Wizard. Do any of those work with WM6 or is it such a different OS?
- In general, are we looking at many programs for WM5 not working yet with WM6?
I've read conflicting info - does the Herald have A2DP or not? If not, does the .cab file that enabled it on my Wizard work with the Herald? (similar to my 1st concern, but more specific...lol)
In general - are those of you who upgraded from the Wizard happy with the changes? What do you miss from your Wizard that is not on the Herald?
Thanks!
*counting down the hours til my Wing's Thurs delivery*

it does have a2dp.

I upgraded from a Wizard, and i'm sooooo happy with my herald

I am not happy
Comparing Wing to Wizard:
Same processor
Same amount of memory
Same screen
5% heavier
10% less battery
NO IR!!!
Oh yeah, and T-Mobile really screwed up the memory:
The Page Pool is 3 times normal so it eats up a lot.
It runs a ton of T-Mobile specific crap so it eats up even more.
It then has memory leak problems so it has to be soft-reset daily to clean it up. (On one occasion, it said it had run out of memory and I had to kill an app. It listed the app I was running and 5 instances of "Phone")
The only plus in my book is that it is slightly smaller.

what you can do to kill the tmobile apps is to reset the Wing to initial factory settings then after you've done the screen calibration the customization msg will come up. at that very instant soft reset the WIng and no Tmobile crap will be installed.

New To The Herald
I just got my T-Mobile Wing today and its charging as we speak. I have been looking around in here for the unlock procedures and the custom cooked Roms that I have grown acoustomed to with my Wizard. I miss Faria! lol
Really though if someone can point out the correct thread to follow as I have read horror stories of bricked Heralds.

You just gotta check em all out lol. Theres been plenty of bricked devices, etc. but everyday we learn something new in the Herald forums. I paid to get my device CID Unlocked but its not necessary as the method of flashing is different then a modified RUU like the wizard used. Just when you get a custom rom downloaded, follow the instructions EXACTLY on what to do and you should have no problems. You should download the Tmobile RUU just incase of any problems though as I bricked my device once last week cause of simple error but the Tmobile RUU brought it back to life!

Thanks Blkout,I feel like a newbee again! lol Its like christmas all over

Soft Reset Causes Device to hang

I've got a bit of an odd issue with an XDA Trion/Hermes -
Basically no matter what ROM I use (WM5/WM6/Cooked) after installing a few apps (doesn't matter which ones - I've tried all kinds of combinations) when I do a soft reset the device will boot back up and hang at the Windows Mobile splash screen. If I hard reset the device functions fine again until I load some stuff on it. I've also seen it do this without anything installed - but it is a lot less frequent.
All in all I can't go more than a few days without having to hard reset and reload my stuff. Sometimes its one day, sometimes its multiple days. Restoring from a backup also causes this to happen - so hard resetting and then restoring is not an option. Also, I've left the device at the splash screen from a full battery to dead just to make sure I wasn't being impatient.
Anyone seen this before? Any ideas before I call HTC and ask them to look at it?

Suggest you do some searches on "bad memory block"
Mike

Will do - thanks for the suggestion!

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Suggest you do some searches on "bad memory block"
Mike
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Well did I did a bunch of searching as you suggested - spent almost 4 hours yesterday just on the forum looking for answers on this. Using "mtty" and checking in the bootloader I've determined there to be no bad blocks.
I've tried all sorts of different WM6 Roms, Hard SPL, you name it. All of them end up with the same problem.
The only time I don't have a problem is when I use an OEM WM5 ROM. Using an OEM WM6 Rom - I have the problem come back.
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship == NO Lockup on Splash Screen
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship == Lockup on splash screen after a few MB of apps/data added to the device
Any other ideas?

Mmm... well I think you need someone more expert than I. You might try a PM to the likes of MrVanx to see if anyone has reported this or some of the other developers for the Hermes Pof et al.
Mike

Thanks Mike I appreciate the attempt - I think I might just be happy with the fact that its working again. Its really just backup device to my iPhone but at least now I can rely on it again to hold onto my data for more than a couple days. I'll spend some more time reading all the posts. Now that I know what I have to do to get it working again after trying something experimental its not so bad.
Thanks again

I've been having the same problem with my 8525, it like sometimes more then not, it freezes at the green windows mobile. It is really frustrating, let me know if you have found a solution, but the problem with my 8525 is the lag, in it, I'm thinking of maybe switching to a blackberry 8320 if this problem doesn't get fixed.

netsyd said:
Thanks Mike I appreciate the attempt - I think I might just be happy with the fact that its working again. Its really just backup device to my iPhone but at least now I can rely on it again to hold onto my data for more than a couple days. I'll spend some more time reading all the posts. Now that I know what I have to do to get it working again after trying something experimental its not so bad.
Thanks again
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have you had any answers. I am getting sick of resetting this dam thing. If this keeps up im getting an IPHONE. Stuff Windows!!!!!!!

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have you had any answers. I am getting sick of resetting this dam thing. If this keeps up im getting an IPHONE. Stuff Windows!!!!!!!
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Are you experiencing the same problem as the poster? I am not experiencing anything like it at all. I have a jasjam, and flashed with a shipped ROM first, and then with CRCinAU's version 11.2, what have you got installed on your phone? Just remember the specs of the hermes, compared to the likes of a raphael or even a polaris (touch cruise).
Don't go jumping the gun getting an iphone, read this bit for a bit of a review. I honestly not having the problems some of the guys are having here knowing my phone's limitations and what I can get out of my hermes.

zocster said:
Are you experiencing the same problem as the poster? I am not experiencing anything like it at all. I have a jasjam, and flashed with a shipped ROM first, and then with CRCinAU's version 11.2, what have you got installed on your phone? Just remember the specs of the hermes, compared to the likes of a raphael or even a polaris (touch cruise).
Don't go jumping the gun getting an iphone, read this bit for a bit of a review. I honestly not having the problems some of the guys are having here knowing my phone's limitations and what I can get out of my hermes.
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I am getting the same problem as the poster. I have a Palm Treo 750 running WM6 from Palm web site ATT version 2.25 download.
After I load a few of my apps on there the phone will all of a sudden start playing up with the buttons not responding. I do what you should be able to do and soft reset by it all stops at the windows logo then end of story. Only way out is hard reset and set everything up again.

kripto64 said:
I am getting the same problem as the poster. I have a Palm Treo 750 running WM6 from Palm web site ATT version 2.25 download.
After I load a few of my apps on there the phone will all of a sudden start playing up with the buttons not responding. I do what you should be able to do and soft reset by it all stops at the windows logo then end of story. Only way out is hard reset and set everything up again.
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Must be some app conflict, I have my wife's treo with me at the moment and it is as good as new, can't imagine what would be conflicting with the treo tho

I just got myself a hermes (AT&T 8525)

Now, it's being shipped to me.
When I turn the phone on, should I soft reset it when it attempts to install the at&t customization crap? Or does it not matter?
I remember when I had my 8125, it did that the first time I got the phone, and I let it go. Which made me end up with some annoying pointless programs. (Although I ended up putting a new ROM wm6.0 and eventually wm6.1)
Also, which roms do yall like the best?
I'm looking for something that's clean, and quick. Without a bunch of useless applications.
Thanks

Since you're familiar with installing ROMS on the 8125,8525 should be a piece of cake.... Definitely read up on the Hermes wiki and load up a WM6 ROM.... check my signature for my current flavor of the month.
Enjoy your 8525
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Now, it's being shipped to me.
When I turn the phone on, should I soft reset it when it attempts to install the at&t customization crap? Or does it not matter?
I remember when I had my 8125, it did that the first time I got the phone, and I let it go. Which made me end up with some annoying pointless programs. (Although I ended up putting a new ROM wm6.0 and eventually wm6.1)
Also, which roms do yall like the best?
I'm looking for something that's clean, and quick. Without a bunch of useless applications.
Thanks
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Even though I had a g4 8125, installing roms became quite easy.
I've been reading up on installing the roms. So do I have to HardSPL my 8525?
P.s. I like that WM6 Shamanix Ultimate 2.1. =]

Welcome! hardspl is a must! here's the flashing bible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462

stuff said:
Now, it's being shipped to me.
When I turn the phone on, should I soft reset it when it attempts to install the at&t customization crap? Or does it not matter?
I remember when I had my 8125, it did that the first time I got the phone, and I let it go. Which made me end up with some annoying pointless programs. (Although I ended up putting a new ROM wm6.0 and eventually wm6.1)
Also, which roms do yall like the best?
I'm looking for something that's clean, and quick. Without a bunch of useless applications.
Thanks
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I just got one as well for $30 from att (refurb). Its working great! It is a bit on the larger side of phones and the damn stylus is a pain in the ass to push in and take out sometimes.

Hey

Hi guys i wasnt quite sure where to put this thread but finnaly decided this forum was fine. I am sorta a newbie but have been reading loads. I think this website is awesome and i will probably donate!! Anyways i have been having a problem with my phone . It is a T mobile MDA Vario Uk IPL 1.06 and SPL 1.06 and WM5, OS 5.1.70 (if that matters)it died, i went to the tmobile shop they sent it to thier place but it came back unfixed. Anyway to make a long story short i turned out to be the charger but now a week back i have got it up and running again!! But when it freezes as it does everynow and then i have no choice but to take the battery out. When i turn it back on the date and time has gone back to November 2005! It does not do this when i turn it off by holding down the power switch. It also loses some tasks i have made . But wierdly not all the tasks. For example i had 4 tasks i took the battery out , when i restarted it the date went back to 2005 and only 1 task remained!. Is there some other way to put it of that i dont know about when it is frozen? Or am i just doomed to keep changing the date!
Thnak you very much for your replies and your time in advance.

Are you trying to soft reset the phone first? Are you trying to turn the phone all the way off? Removing the battery should be a last resort approach.
Here's the deal...
You can stave off a lot of these kind of memory/freezing problems in the future by loading some kind of RAM indicator (QuickMenu has a built-in one, can manage running programs, and gives you a Windows desktop-style start menu for programs instead of the dumb folder avalanche) to let you know you have too many programs running, and you need to do a soft reset every once in a while, or at least hibernate it periodically (you can do this from QuickMenu), just to jog it clean. It would also be wise for you to load a temporary file cleaner to clear out your temp files every once in a while...you'd be shocked how much crap piles up under the OS when you're not looking.
Lastly, since you might end up really losing some important data, I'd recommend getting DotFred's PIM backup tool and loading it on an SD card in your phone, and configure it to back up your phone regularly (like once a day at 2 am, for example). As long as the phone's left on, it'll do that for you, and if your phone really craps the bed, at least you'll have your contacts, meetings, and other info safe and sound.
Also, in the future, please add the info on your phone to your sig, so you don't have to repeat yourself 8,000 times, and you might want to try more descriptive titles for your topics than "Hey," unless you like being ignored...

Thank you Myrddin Wyllt but what did you mean by hibernating it ? do you mean just pushing the on/off button quickly so the screen goes of? oh yeah and thank you for all the advice on this forum i shal procede to do that now! Thnak you again

Yep i have done that now

upgrade your OS to at least WM6.
When I got my phone it had WM5 on it, and it used to lock up or spontaneously soft reset at least once a day, even though I soft reset it regularly. Since I upgraded to WM6 I no longer have these lockup problems.

thank you i was thinking about upgrading but wasnt sure! About the battery thing i just found out about the little hole on the side. I think this solves the problem . But about upgrading will it make my phone slower or take up precious memory or something? And the big question which one?? Also some apps i would like to have require .net framework 2.0. I tried installing it on my phone on the storage card , i had about 50mb free but it still said there is not enough space and told me to clear up space and start again! will upgrading my rom also solve this problem? Is WM6 just like WM5 what are the differences i am a beit of a newbie here! You might have to treat me like a child on this one!
Also i was wondering out of the 47.4mb internal memory of the MDA Vario how much is used by the system and how much crap have i got on? Also if i use "clear storage" then will it also get rid of programs i have installed on my memory card and i have unlocked my phone. Will it re-lock it and return the old crappy t-mobile themes?? (i have spb moble shell atm)
Thank you in advance!

New to this...any help appreciated

Alright...so here goes. I have been out of the smartphone market for some time now and am getting this awesome phone tomorrow. I am friggin excited! Feels like Christmas in the summer! Verizon tells me that it will already come with the 6.1 update installed. Anyone gotten one recently to verify this, and how do I tell when I get it...also how can I tell the radio that it has? I also already wanna mod this machine, and although I am selfproclaimed computer savvy, I am a little nervous about bricking the phone. I think I def want either an iCRAP setup to piss off everyone at work, or nfsfans 6.5....although I would like to have someone walk me through it. I have to say, everyone on this forum has done an excellent job with their machines and I am impressed. Also, I don't know that this will even be an issue, but it will still need to function as a phone and pda...as I have read in a few different places that some cant use their phone function anymore, etc. And I definitely wanna get the GPS running ASAP, due to travel on the job. Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I will def help out anyone on here if I can. I also am not sure about when and when not to let customizations run...any help with that would be awesome too

i am also getting this phone from vzw thursday, they told me it comes standard with wm6.0 idk or care. as soon as i get it im gonna flash a custom rom.

Hey there, I'm a fellow Verizon user. It was kind of nerve-wracking flashing the ROM for the first time, but its really NBD once you get into it (be sure and try android too!).
Do your reading first, there are tutorials all over the place. Something to remember about customizations - Don't let them run on any official Verizon updates you see floating around the internet, as they will cripple your GPS. Don't let them run on any ROM designed for another carrier. If you're flashing a generic or Verizon-specific CUSTOM ROM, let them run.
And you can check in settings to see your radio and OS version and all that (under "about" I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
Have fun!

so if i run mr1 from verizon to get to wm6.1, then I SHOULD NOT not run customizations. What buttons do I press to do a hard reset before that comes up? But, if I were to do NFSFAN's 6.5 rom, then I SHOULD let customizations run. Also, could someone point me to a set of CLEAR directions on doing the flashes? I have read a bunch of them, and it seems they are all missing little parts.....probably something so familiar to the editor, they just forget to include in the steps.

Yes, the lack of CLEAR instructions as a stickey is a real problem on a lot of boards. I've read threads over 300 posts in order to get solid info. I don't mind searching for info, but jeesh, guys it is unbearable. Granted some of this stuff is not for the faint of heart, but there can be so much info, and sometimes it is often confusing and contradictory. The SR. members and the Admins need to get their heads together and take a month to provide the community some solid resources, and weed out some of the erroneous info here. We want to make having this phone FUN and Practical. A Case in point is trying to get GPS working. Have you guys looked at all the info on here about this. Granted there is variety of carriers, but it shouldn't be brain surgery.
Also chevyspd,you want to do a SOFT reset before the customizations. Use your stylus to depress the small hole in the bottom of the phone before they run. Should be golden. A HARD reset will restart the flashing process from scratch.

10-4....so only do a soft reset by only pressing the button in the hole on the bottom before customizations runs. That is very contradictory from about 50 other posts I've read so far. A whole bunch of them say to do a HARD reset, but I will remember not to. But, when I do a custom rom like NFSFANS, I don't have to do a reset at all....correct?

You wouldn't believe how many times I got flamed for that same kinda comment on other forums.....interestingly though....Also...if I flash to NFSFANs 6.5, are the cubes still active, or is that something from HTC that gets written over with a new rom?

So, my new phone already has 6.1 right outta the box. Interestingly enough, it went to the customizations screen as soon as I powered the phone up, so I immediately hit the soft reset. How can I tell if what I did worked, and if it didn't, how can I fix it so I can use 3rd party gps programs?

Wow; a lot of questions. I'm not sure about NFSFAN's rom. To see if the gps works, make sure you have the Settings>phone>services>location is set to on. Then make sure the external gps setting is set to Comm4, then hardware NONE, baud 4800, and allow Windows to manage gps. Do a Google search for HTC QuickGPS if it's not already on your phone (varies from carrier to carrier) and Install it; Run it, outside and allow it 10 minutes to get a lock. If gps is working, then you should be golden. You will probably need to turn the radio on after every re-boot; and be aware that leaving the radio going WILL drain you battery faster than usual. All this assumes you are using the stock rom, and not one of the custom ones; each to those varies, some work out of the box so to speak, some of them require tweaking.

Funny i just got the phone yesterday to, but i actually already had it for about a year lol, just replaced the one i broke on saturday. But honestly the first thing i did with the phone is put in my SD card and boot up Android....
I really want my GPS back again but i dont really want to go through the hassle of unlocking, flashing, unlocking, and flashing, but if you deem it neccessary. and maybe i will to one day soon. lol heres the link
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
chevyspd said:
You wouldn't believe how many times I got flamed for that same kinda comment on other forums.....interestingly though....Also...if I flash to NFSFANs 6.5, are the cubes still active, or is that something from HTC that gets written over with a new rom?
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The cube is way back when man, sorry but those things are old school already. lol so when you flash to the 6.5 NFSFAN rom it will not have the cube, but it will have titanium and manilla 2d, which in my opinion are awesome replacements
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But, if I were to do NFSFAN's 6.5 rom, then I SHOULD let customizations run?
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Yes, and remember to install the Verizon cab in his post :thumbsup:

Well, the phone didn't come with the cube anyways...lol...so anywho...I think the GPS is working anyways...just gotta find a free GPS like vznavi or something.