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Have u ever seen this?

Just happened on my universal onn the third time
First time happened with WM5, then with WM6 for the second time
THe screen turns to fiull brightness and messages shown in the following screenshots are shown.
The only remedy is soft reset. This even happens sometimes with no apps installed

yeep, I have experience same, I got it same issue with some rom's after sending many many SMS. As I could observe it came from running low memory (even the display shows ca. 13-16 meg)

I had >26MB storage memory and >16MB of program memory

kdskamal said:
I had >26MB storage memory and >16MB of program memory
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don't think it has anything to do with the storage memory but definitely with the program memory. By some of the ROM's it seams the 14-16 MB memory leading to your problems but some of the ROM's you can run down until 7MB and still no issue.

I use jwright's rom which as we all known as memory leak issues and it's been stable till there was only about 5mb left. after that i couldn't even open a photo (note: no crash or other odd behaviour, just out of memory), and that was when i soft booted.

Memory drain

I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.

firiel said:
I noticed in every rom I used that after a while (like half a day) the free memory of the PDA gets drained. For example after a soft reset and with all my software loaded for good, I have 24 MB free but after 6 hours I ll have 17 MB free.
I use the FREEupRAM from sktools and it frees some ram but not all.
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Which ROMs and which Radio ROMs specifically. I had had problems with many ROMs - but am running MARY 1.2 and have no memory drain issues.

ROMS : mun's LVSW, AXEL, MARY, INDIGO ... many many more, all with the same issue. I think its a windows mobile issue or something that occurs on every rom.
RADIO : 1.38 - 1.46 - 1.50

Well with the lVSW rom, which does not have HTC Home, I did not have any memory drain.
However with the AX3L, Mary, Mun Indigo Full, using the HTC Home Plug, I had serious memory drains as described above from our friend firiel.
When I disabled the HTC Home pluging and operated them on the standard Today Screens with only SPB Weather programm running, the memory leak was minimal i.e from 24 to 21 in a period of three days.
I believe the problem is not on the ROMS but on the HTC Home plug, and maybe we need to know if it is the case with people who have the original Touch device and the Kaiser, if they also experience these kind of memory leaks.
Generally these user friendly animated programms drain down the memory, I had the same problem with the spb mobile suite application.
Maybe it will be fixed in the future

I do use the spb mobile suite, I ll try uninstalling it workaround and report back

A friend having a trinity with wm5 running exactly the same programs installed as I does not have the same issues even with SPB Mobile suite, so the problem is in only on wm6

I have a DoPOD d810=Trinity running WM5 and have the same problem, SKTools also doesn't revive the Memory to the full SR status of >25MB.
Does anyone know of a small utility that can revive the Maximum Memory without having to do a SR??

Reduce Processor Load?

With my phone at the Today screen, and no apps launched my WM 6.1 is running at 60-65%....
Is there any way to reduce it other than getting a new ROM? I'm VERY leary about upgrading the ROM, basically because I'm a serious newb with all this flashing and SPL stuff....
Thanks!

*coughs* *shuffles feet*
Bump....

Cheers, all.

The percentages you're talking about are mem usage - not CPU usage
65% isn't that problematic.

Thank for the info!!
it got as high as 84% yesterday, and overnight sucked my battery life with nothing running...is there anything I can do to keep this low?
Thanks!

Are you sure you don't have anything running? When i close all running programs on my NIKI and return to homescreen, i have about 55%, with Win. mobile 6.1.
What have you tried..? Tried a soft or even better, a hard reset of your device?

That's a fair question, because I actually have to soft reset every once in a while after using various apps on my phone. I make sure that there's nothing running in the task manager as well.
Right now it's at about 70%....and that is after a soft reset.
Now, it's not modded (I have a Neon [Bell Canada HTC Touch Dual], so there's no ROM for it yet). Once there's a finished ROM for it, with all of the "muck" out of it, it's probably going to be a little better.

But I question if there's anybody out here who gets the original amount of memory back after closing some apps..?
When I start a lot of apps and close them again, the used mem percentage is always higher than before (I think WM doesn't unload some libraries 'til your memory gets full, because it doesn't hurt to keep them loaded and saves processor cycles)

I've found that as well. If I use enough apps, I have to turn my phone off and back on - eventually It gets over 80% (sometimes It's gone up to 90% with no apps running!)

I have the same problem. The memory kept going up in WM6.1. Any solution to this?

Free memory s/w for HD

Hello,
Being used HD for one week, I found one problem about memory consumption (not a problem actually ).
At startup, about 120M free memory, after using for one day (Opera, view picture, games, stock manager, etc), only about 80M RAM left.
I have tried to use
- oxios memory
- MemMaid 2.0
but it can only free 1-2M RAM, where is my RAM

Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
Does anyone else has the same prob? Didn't use special appz yet, because it doesn't seem to disturb working with device.
greetz,
swa

Swantony001 said:
Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
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Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.

I have the same problem. My guess is it a memory leak in some apps. ITs no big deal, because there is lots of free memory and if it really bugs me, I can do a soft reset every now and then.

Yes, it is not a problem to me until now as there are plenty of RAM available!
I just curious about the kinds of program that consume the memory??
From my observation, WM OS is not doing the job of memory management well.
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Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.
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Clearing your browser cache will retrieve some of it
(unless you have it to cache to the storage card)

I don't bother too much with this as it does not seem to become a problem.
But, I don't "load and leave" applications. I also generally do a soft reset once a week.
However, in SK Tools there is a "FreeUP RAM" application as part of the suite. I just ran it and it recovered 2 mbytes (a bit less than 1 %)

@ Swantony001 :
Hi, there is a thead about stopping Active-Sync activating itself all the time.
Works perfectly for me.
See here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463013&highlight=active
Greetings,
go42

the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!

Hi, guys!
I've noticed the same thing! Something consumes active memory!!!
I watched some processes... So "cprog.exe" and "device.exe" eat memory from time to time.
I use Soft Reset once a day or in two days.
If anyone gets a new WWE ROM with that bug being fixed, please, let me know .
Memory consumption is not a big problem now, but it's a bit annoying...

jonajuna said:
the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!
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Damn never experienced this problem before *touches wood*
Yeah i have experience the memory leaking up starting from 38% to 44% in a matter of hours.
No biggie, but if it comes down to problems like jonajuna experienced then, yes that is a problem.

Igo8 failed to reserve virtual address

I have the following issue with Igo8:
When I want to start Igo8 it says: "failed to reserve virtual address"! After soft-reset Igo8 starts normal.
Can someone know something about this issue?

Same problem here. RAM Cleaner doesn't solve the issue either. For me, it seems that the problem only occurs if I already started iGO8 earlier; it doesn't occur if I've got the phone running for multiple days without starting iGO8.

Yes the same with my TP2 and IGO8....

This problem has been bugging me too. RAM cleaner fixed it for me once on a level 3, but never did since. I'm thinking memory leak?

I have the same problem too, what I did was usually I disable the T3D before I run the iGO8 (8.3.2.x), this usually help without have to reset my TP2. That is why iGO support said they did not cerified it work on TP2 (even most people said it work great on TP2). Used at your own risk.

I have experienced this issue few times, ussually when I turned it on for the third or forth time (or later on) in a given time, soft reset fixed it.

I am experiencing the same strange behaviour.
I have to shut down and then it restarts correctly.
Obviously it's not a certified device

Thanks for your replies. It's really annoying to soft-reset the device everytime, when I need IGO8. I hope to find a solution for this annoying problem...

Update to the latest version Jun 8 2009, 8.3.2.93112.
I think they solved the problem.

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Update to the latest version Jun 8 2009, 8.3.2.93112.
I think they solved the problem.
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I still have the problem with that version. What made you think that version fixes it? Any reference?

bogypop said:
Update to the latest version Jun 8 2009, 8.3.2.93112.
I think they solved the problem.
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Where can I find this official update? I have regularly bought mine and it has a lower reference number...

I allready have the latest version of IGO8 (Jun 8 2009, 8.3.2.93112). But thx for your advice though...

Hi Guys,
I was having the very same issue with my TP2 but it seems I managed to trick it by using the following sequence of events.
1. Disable TF3D
2. Soft-Reset the device
3. Once the device was operational again I started iGO8
4. Exit iGO8 then re-enable TF3D
5. Start iGO8 again and check if it works (it did for me)
6. Soft-Reset the device again and let it load all it's stuff including TF3D.
7. Start again iGO8 to check if it would still work (it did for me).
Well... it works for me since then, but on another note I don't have too many softwares installed on my device at this time so I'm not sure whether or not iGO is having memory leak problems. I'm pretty sure that the issue is coming from an incompatibility between TF3D and the iGO interface and also the same was confirmed by other people on the various forums.
Right now I'm using the latest available iGO8 v8.3.2.93112 (not instaled just running it straight from the storage card).
I hope the above would help you out, but in any case should anybody find a better stable solution, please let us know about it.
Cheers,

Hello this is a memory problem...i have notice if the ram is under 70 MB this error will come.....

Hi All
Yes, this is solely a memory (RAM) problem.
What is the problem you may ask, well, the phone takes a truckload of RAM to simply ...run.
Consider this.
Specified RAM - 288mb.
Available 'total' RAM - 288mb, minus 100mb = 188mb.
RAM in use (OS + TFlo) - 288mb, minus 100mb, minus up to 130mb = 60mb.
Available RAM to actually use is often 60mb or less with no running apps!!!!
This is a serious issue with this phone, it is not fair and even misleading for the consumer - i mean really, not enough memory to run just ONE app!!!
(Granted, a GPS app is large, but the device does have the chip, doesn't it?)
C'Mon.... I bought a phone with 288mb of RAM, not 60mb - [email protected]%#[email protected]!!!!!!!
Don't get me started on the specified ROM size of 512mb, of which we get to actually use just 277mb....
Cheers to all
Jabberoo

jabberoo said:
Hi All
Yes, this is solely a memory (RAM) problem.
What is the problem you may ask, well, the phone takes a truckload of RAM to simply ...run.
Consider this.
Specified RAM - 288mb.
Available 'total' RAM - 288mb, minus 100mb = 188mb.
RAM in use (OS + TFlo) - 288mb, minus 100mb, minus up to 130mb = 60mb.
Available RAM to actually use is often 60mb or less with no running apps!!!!
This is a serious issue with this phone, it is not fair and even misleading for the consumer - i mean really, not enough memory to run just ONE app!!!
(Granted, a GPS app is large, but the device does have the chip, doesn't it?)
C'Mon.... I bought a phone with 288mb of RAM, not 60mb - [email protected]%#[email protected]!!!!!!!
Don't get me started on the specified ROM size of 512mb, of which we get to actually use just 277mb....
Cheers to all
Jabberoo
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I think that this is not the problem. My kaiser will run Igo8 With high resolution, buildings, TTS enabled, etc with just 25mb free memory. why can my kaiser do it with 25 mb and the TP2 not with 60mb free memory?
Verry strange...
The second thing that I dont understand is that the problem will come directly after starting IGO8. My kaiser will run slow or crash when it has too less memory remaining. but by the TP2 it will give an error directly after starting and BEFORE loading the app... This will give me the idea that it is a verry simple and basic problem...
update: I've noticed that IGO8 will run fine on the TP2 with Touch flo 3D disabled with only 35mb ram...
Ranney

Well, ran into the same problem on my Igo8 too. Like others said, I have to soft reset it everytime when I encounter that problem...really frustrating it will waste you couples of minutes to do soft reset and wait for the apps to comes out.
Well, i have tried all versions, but still getting the same stupid virtual address. Almost give up, but I like Igo8 interface very much.
I dont know this is really works for you or not. Without me realized after I have installed SecondToday and then ran my Igo8 from here, then I never have this problem again EVER!!! I am a heavy user of this Igo8, cos every where i go, i depend on this gps software. Now I never have this problem again. Thanks Godness.
Hope this help.

hi,
I have got similar issues but in my case it was (most likely) due to the skin I was using (gurjon 6.9.2p).
After I reverted back to the original igo's skin, I have not been reported with any error since last few days.
I am using 8.3.2.97313 [July 3rd] release.

I'm wondering whether a newer WM6.5 ROM will solve it. Maybe Manilla 2.5 (or 6) may make a difference. I'm currently playing around with NRG's ROM, and will monitor iGo8 over the coming days.

i use windows mobile 6.5 without any touchflow. and i have to softreset too.
i can start igo8 any time i want but if i dont softreset before, i will lost the gps signal every 10 seconds.