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Memory Leak + ****ty Battery life + Lockups = Getting tired!

I don't know.. ever since I got my brand new O2 Exec I've been getting less and less productive in work. The machine is indeed cool, but only when it works. I'm early adapter but it's been for the past month or so that I'm working for the machine instead of the machine working for me.
Memory leaks are out of this world. Memory is not freed up many times and I end up easily with 3mb of free ram even if no program is on. The battery life is terrible (to say the least) compared to my good old PDA2K (even with it's over 1yrs old battery! it blasts the Exec memory miles away)
Lately, the amount of lockups I am getting is simply unbearable. machine freezes.. sometimes the left soft button's caption (i.e "phone") graphics is seen like a small white box or something(as if all the letter go over each other) and then machine freezes. Something an alert comes up and then machine freezes. I can't trust the machine for business use, for games yes, but not for business.
Please note I don't have many programs running at all, no wisbar or cosmetic stuff like that., no SPB Plus and stuff like that. Just PocketInformant, PocketBreeze, phoneAlarm all of which are must have for me as well as some utils i relay on. I am wondering maybe my ROM is outdated, but I didn't see an update from O2 yet (I don't want to install NO_ID tool and flush other roms than OS own due to warrenty issues)
I have OS2 Exec with following ver:
ROM version: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 11/30/05
Radio version: 1.04.02
Protocol version: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Is there any Official update from O2 to any of these ?
Help is very much appreciated. That's before a 10kg hammer is blaster over the machine in an act of anger.. lol
MOBILER

Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.

cktlcmd said:
Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.
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Thanks man, I highly appreciate your detailed helpful response, but two issues :
1) As I said, I do not want to install the i-mate JJ ROM over the O2 one due to warrenty issues. So I think I would prefer to wait for the official O2 release thought I am starting to loose patience..
2) I also use the MagicButton app on my Exec. It seems very efficient at closing programs and switching tasks with minimal memory footprint. I'll look into the program you mentioned, but I doubt that's the problem. My machine has memory leaks because even when programs are all closed after several hours of use I can get down to 3mb free RAM.
Regards
MOBILER

Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment

@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk

I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
I now keep things simple, using PocketZenPhone for switching profiles ( very nice and simple solution ). Use the O2 web site to keep track of number of txts sent and phone call allowance.
SPBGPRS monitor for the obvious monitoring of GPRS usage.
Using the standard contacts and calender ( does me ok but not as flexible )
And I have just started messing about with Wisbar, No problems as off yet.
Personally I have found all problems with the phone are linked to software incompatabilities.
I am still in warrenty with O2 but have updated to the latest ROM and radio and if for any reason it has to go back I will try and flash back but my way of thinking is that I should be allowed to change to any ROM image I want in the same way as load any software I want.
Dont know if that is of any help at all, just my views on trying the same software. Regardless of how good they are, they caused problems for me so now I dont use them and everything seems to be running ok.

I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
Running the virgin corporate install o2 ROM with no TSRs. Using PIE and Netfront, and the built in outlook, together with a number of games, has meant that my xda is quite reliable. I am hoping that my 'once every 2-3 days reboot' will be gone once the new xda rom comes out :shock:
I can also recommend memmaid to occasionally clear our broken registry settings.
WM5 has been a painfull experience for the PDA manufacturers. If you think we are having a bad time you should read the stuff about the dell axim x50 upgrade on aximsite. I am hoping that WM5.1 will be a free install for universal users as this will make the os more robust.
On an optimistic note the chipset employed by the universal is well used and very reliable in many applications, the construction is robust, so IMHO it all comes down to software/firmware which we hope will improve.

I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.

FWIW, I am new to this device, but not to PPC, so I am familiar with minimize/close distinction. My orange SPV M5000 loses about .3MB per program invocation. I shut down programs using either the program's own Exit function (where it exists) or the Memory tab in the settings area. But the memory is slowly eroded. The worst culprit is Activesync to my laptop, that consumes around 5MB that never comes back. After a soft reset there is about 23MB free, this quickly drops to around 18, then steadily drops. Something in the OS is not releasing memory. I have to soft reset to get the memory back (which takes about 3 minutes).

I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.

Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me

@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
It is surprising that after 6/9 months of WM5 availability that we are still having instability problems with major/popular WM5 apps. I only use GSPMagic, Agenda Fusion, MS Reader and Opera. Only GSPMagic and AgendaFusion have been trouble-free.

WM5 was intended for programs to keep running. I know we like to hack our machines to death + sometimes the memory gets too full and you have to kill stuff. But sometimes if you keep MS stuff running, and don't kill it all the time with something like magic button, you find the system runs better.
I have activesync, contacts, outlook and PIE open all the time. I used to kill activesync all the time and I think this caused problems.
Normally my games have proper exit buttons, together with pRSSReader (totally excellent program). For the MS built in programs I tend to leave them running as the OS was designed for this.

Wow I think its pretty clear I ended up with a good unit afterall, either that or o2 really really messed up with your ROMS.
I have to charge my battery every night but thats to be expected with the usage I have. And im running Wisbar Lite, PhoneAlarm, PocketBreeze, and Wisbar Advance Desktop, all no worries, the only time I notice a distinct loss of memory is after player Warring Nations.
I feel for you guys, I think your summing it up that your working on your device as opposed to it working for you says it all.

Thanks for all the responses. You're all great guys!
Please see my responses below to all suggestions:
Darren_Bridgeland said:
Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment
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Thanks, but no. I don't use SBSH Ilauncher. I use MagicButton which has a minimum memory footprint
jah said:
@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk
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Thanks, I felt I was the only one having problems Anyway:
1) I am always in powersave, still loosing battery power.
2) I just purchased a new SD card yesterday because I thought that may have caused the problems, but it's not it.. same problems.
3) I'll look into spare batteries, thanks for the link
ninja12innotts said:
I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
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I appreciate the reply.
1) I've purchased and used phoneAlarm for about a year straight with my PDA2K and it never failed me any problems. I consider it a must have, and since it ran quite smoothly on my PDA2k I don't see why it should cause the Exec these issues. Further, I did remove it and still exeprienced the same issues, so that's not the problem either.
2) I've used PocketInfromant for 1.5 years now and no problem on my old PDA2K.
colonel said:
I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
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Thanks for the reply, I've been using MagicButton for almost as long as I can remember and it never failed me. It worked superb on my PDA2K. Further, I tried removing it for a few days to check how things would work without it. Same lockups, same memory leaks, same mediocre performance, unfortunately (or fortunately) this isn't the problem either.
weasel said:
Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me
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Sure I actually never ran my Exec in any other mode than the Corporate mode, so I never even experienced the other modes.
jah said:
@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
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Pitty, that's not the issue with my machine as I already did that trick 2 weeks ago.
I just ran memaid to see what running processes do I have and I see to be having the following ones. Note that I have no running programs in the background and no today plugins enabled whasoever, just VoiceCommand I guess is working in the background but that's it. It seems to me that the WM5 core doesn't freeup memory.
Here's what memaid reports
gwes.exe 5.26MB
device.exe 2.83MB
filesys.exe 2.41MB
cprog.exe 2.29MB
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB
connmgr.exe 115.81KB
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB
Nk.exe 0 bytes

the most memory you can clear is about 26-29mbytes. The rest of the running processes need to be there. There is a good thread somewhere on what each process does, will post it if I come across it again.
29mb is disappointing considering there is 64mbyte memory, but thats the way WM5 works.
rgds

I've got a O2 XDA ii (himalaya) and im running wm2005 2.01.64
After a soft reset I have 31.x MB or RAM left, even if I dont run a single program or make a single phone call within say 6hours my RAM is at 21-24MB. This has nothing to do with not correctly closing programs but either a wm2005 leak or in my case a lot of the problem is being pointed at SBSH Ilauncher.

Well here is a comparison just done a soft reset started memaid and my results are in brackets after yours for the ones in common running :-
gwes.exe 5.26MB ( 4.6 MB )
device.exe 2.83MB ( 1.46 MB )
filesys.exe 2.41MB (1.82 MB )
cprog.exe 2.29MB ( 1.46 MB )
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB ( 1.21 MB )
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB ( 315.76 kb )
connmgr.exe 115.81KB ( 115.81 kb )
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB (23.0 kb )
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB (7.9 kb )
Nk.exe 0 bytes ( 0kb )
also I have :-
Wisbaradv2.exe 787.71 kb
sddaemon.exe 67.9 kb
Pimhelper.exe 11.9 kb
Poutlook,exe 3.9 kb
( i have Wisbar, SPBdiary and pocketzenphone open )
going to have a look later tonight to see if anything changes.
ROM Ver. 1.30.76
Radio 1.09.00
ExtRom ver 1.30.164

I had similar problems when I first bought my O2 exec (on Ebay).
I downloaded the latest update from O2 website and re-flash the phone. I used Corporate install. So far it has been solid and I am even using the phone with Goodlink without a problem.
About the same time I bought the phone, I bought a 2G SD card (sandisk) , when I got the card I insalled a few software on this card (TCMP and Total Commander). Everytime I ran those applications, I can see that the phone crawls like a snail and worse it hangs. It even take a long time for me to transfer files from my laptop to the SD card even when I used a SD Card reader.
I replaced the SD card with a 2G MMC+ (Kingston) and I install the same apps. My phone is working as it should be, I can say that I didnt experience any hanging at all and it was never slow as well. I can even upload a ripped DVD movie on the phone faster compared to when I used the SD card. Right now I have one full season of Alias in my MMC+ card.
I have the phone setup to turnoff after a period of time (3 minutes) when there is no activity as opposed to others that they wanted to have the settings uncheck Start>Settings>Power. I also make sure that the backlight is set to a minimun when on battery and I uncheck the part where the phone will not recieve all incoming beam.
So far, my phone has been stable and battery lasts for 3 days.

From personal experience I found wisbar caused issues with the phone not ringing on an incoming call. It would ring for the first call after a soft reset and then stop for any further calls...
The other major issue which could cause delays and slowness is installing to the sd card any apps which ought to be installed to ram. ie: today plugins etc.

udk Syrius R4 issues

As the original thread seems to be a bit out of hand currently I decided post some issues I am having with R4 on a separate thread.
First of all a big thanks to udk for his time and effort on this rom - it gets better and better with every release.
Call quality. Although this has increased significantly in this release, I am still getting poor reception in some areas on my POLA100. I only have good reception with the original shipping ROM.
Audio Manager. Seems to be crashing in TFLO3D and also when loading manually. I am not sure if it is because my music is on the SD card or the fact that the files contain greek characters. I am guessing the latter but cant really tell.
Keyboards. Buttons are a bit small (or my fingers are a bit big). Tried to install the diamond keyboards cab but they dont show up at all.

TTN7 slow
I noticed that TTN7 worked slow in that rom, is it the same for some of you ? What solution do you advise ? A change of Radio ? Thanks

funny thing is that i have none of theze problems, i love r4 together with my pola100

I am experiencing heavy memory consumption (around 77%) even after Soft Reset. With R1 I had around 55%- DonT know if its a R4 thing because I skipped 2 and 3

Memory leak
can any one confirm a memory leak in R4. it begins with 36 MB of free ram and decreases gradually even though i close all programs with the task manager.
i noticed that specially when using opera

Memory problems
I have the same issue in R4. Memory is fast full and system crashes therefore after a while (or turns very slow).

The ROM is slow if u don'ttune the GYLCACHE to 8192. After setting the GYLCACHE, it's quite fast.

More issues
Things couldnt go any worse as my polaris rebooted byitself while i was starting media player and now its in a reboot loop. I am flashing again.

I can't seem to keep my bluetooth headset paired in any of the newest ROMs including this one, works when first pairing, then when you try to reconnect the bluetooth symbol flashes but no headphone symbol comes up and no connection is made, must repair the two. Anyone else have this?

Just flashed twice and the device wont start at all. Going to the official ROM i guess

follow up question
wvillas said:
The ROM is slow if u don'ttune the GYLCACHE to 8192. After setting the GYLCACHE, it's quite fast.
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How can I adapt these values? I assume with registry editor? I installed one now and tried to look for GYLCACHE, but could not find anything in the registry.
Could you tell me, how to change this value? Thanks!
M

I can confirm. After using IE, Opera, PocketOutlook, PhotoAlbum => 72% memory used.
After releasing using Oxios, only 70% used...

Seems that proxy problems appears again. I Sync at work where we are using a proxy. When back at home, connecting to Internet via Wifi, can't connect... It says that connection is not setted up the good way.
This problem existed with previous version. Fixed in M-Amine2.0 and back here... A nightmare!

I have the memory leak and I had to repair my Jabra BT headset also twice.
But yesterday reconnecting worked... I will keep an eye on this.
Btw. I have reduced some values according to the perfomance thread. After a softreset I do have now 51% instead of 58%
But once I run through every tab in M2D it increases to 54%

driyad said:
can any one confirm a memory leak in R4. it begins with 36 MB of free ram and decreases gradually even though i close all programs with the task manager.
i noticed that specially when using opera
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I can also confirm the memory leak. Noticed the problem after using several tabs in Opera.

memory leak
I do also have a big memory leak but only after using Opera build 2745 which is the build cooked in R4 ROM.
Is this the latest Opera build?

there is also 2808 out in this forum. can you test and see if it does get better?
I was not able to search www.mobile.de with this build, Either Opera or manila closed.

HKLM\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\limit = 8192 or 16384
mewsijben said:
How can I adapt these values? I assume with registry editor? I installed one now and tried to look for GYLCACHE, but could not find anything in the registry.
Could you tell me, how to change this value? Thanks!
M
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I found a major problem to me in this ROM is the performance of GPS positioning is slow everytime when I run the GPS software. I suspect the QuickGPS doesn't work although the latest file is downloaded.

Have you tried updating your radio?
btw. am i the only when who's sms messages arent marked as read when replying? when im in a sms conversating. the unread count juts keeps going up couse they arent marked as read anymore after replying. it did work in earlier roms.

Free memory s/w for HD

Hello,
Being used HD for one week, I found one problem about memory consumption (not a problem actually ).
At startup, about 120M free memory, after using for one day (Opera, view picture, games, stock manager, etc), only about 80M RAM left.
I have tried to use
- oxios memory
- MemMaid 2.0
but it can only free 1-2M RAM, where is my RAM

Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
Does anyone else has the same prob? Didn't use special appz yet, because it doesn't seem to disturb working with device.
greetz,
swa

Swantony001 said:
Yes, I found out the same problem! Try to do a reset and the memory is cleaned again. I use the X button to kill all programs after using them, but it seems to be fludding on a regular basis, also activesync program keep popping up when I'm not connected, and the memory usage slowely gets higher every hour with a few procent.
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Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.

I have the same problem. My guess is it a memory leak in some apps. ITs no big deal, because there is lots of free memory and if it really bugs me, I can do a soft reset every now and then.

Yes, it is not a problem to me until now as there are plenty of RAM available!
I just curious about the kinds of program that consume the memory??
From my observation, WM OS is not doing the job of memory management well.
SiliconS said:
Until the phone starts having problems, why worry? With every new device there are threads like this with people obsessing over the amount of free RAM their devices show, but honestly you can just leave Windows Mobile to deal with the RAM itself and you'll never have a problem. There's no need to try and recover all the RAM that you think should be free. The OS will take care of it.
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Clearing your browser cache will retrieve some of it
(unless you have it to cache to the storage card)

I don't bother too much with this as it does not seem to become a problem.
But, I don't "load and leave" applications. I also generally do a soft reset once a week.
However, in SK Tools there is a "FreeUP RAM" application as part of the suite. I just ran it and it recovered 2 mbytes (a bit less than 1 %)

@ Swantony001 :
Hi, there is a thead about stopping Active-Sync activating itself all the time.
Works perfectly for me.
See here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463013&highlight=active
Greetings,
go42

the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!

Hi, guys!
I've noticed the same thing! Something consumes active memory!!!
I watched some processes... So "cprog.exe" and "device.exe" eat memory from time to time.
I use Soft Reset once a day or in two days.
If anyone gets a new WWE ROM with that bug being fixed, please, let me know .
Memory consumption is not a big problem now, but it's a bit annoying...

jonajuna said:
the memory leak does cause problems for me, well with tomtom7 it does. sometimes i get the message "not enough memory" unpon booting TT and am forced to do a soft reset.
its not often, but the fact it happens piddles me off!
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Damn never experienced this problem before *touches wood*
Yeah i have experience the memory leaking up starting from 38% to 44% in a matter of hours.
No biggie, but if it comes down to problems like jonajuna experienced then, yes that is a problem.

igo 8

hello,
I have a problem with igo 8 3.july 2009
igo installation - normal
igo first run - normal
igo detect gps - normal
but, i dont know if i have some time limitation, because after
3-5 min igo crash and my rhodium go back to today screen.
please help.
any ideas how fix this problem?
my rom: energy photon 8.november
my radio: HTC LATEST
THANK YOU FOR ANY REPLY

my initial response was that it was crashing because of the RAM. I have seen a few phones crash Igo8 when the RAM usage gets high. try a soft reset, then use Igo8 for a while and see if it crashes. I know if I leave my phone on the RAM usage creeps up after a few days.
Were there any other programs running when it crashed? Also, maybe try and bump down the draw distance and graphic setting in Igo.
Try those and let me know what happens.

Try the igo8 tts fix (in this same section of the forums). It can help ya get back a lot of your RAM.
I use that & manually close Sense from the today screen & have no problems running igo8...

[Q] HTC HD2 with NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9G Android, app Google navigator freezes phone.

Hello, this is my first post on XDA-Developers forum. Hope I placed in the correct section/forum.
I flashed my HTC HD2 with NexusHD2-Froyo V1.9G from Tytung which I will render thanks for making the ROM.
Everything works fine, except of Google navigator, this app freezes the phone. I need to remove the battery to shutdown the phone and boot again. First i have run Android from SD-card and also then Google navigator froze the phone. Thought this might have to do with running Android from Sd-card. Was happy with Adroid, so flashed the phone with the NAND version. Still the same problem with Navigator.
When running Navigator, can search location and location is also found, but when driving in my car, and the Navigator is following with the GPS it freezes. Screen doesn’t react and also the hardware buttons doesn’t react. At this moment the phone is really warm. So did install Setcpu and underclocked the CPU. Tried again and the same phone freezes. This time the phone wasn’t so warm, seems the underclocked did his work good.
Tried many other applications/games and no problem at all. Example the game Asphalt 5 HD works fine and the phone doesn’t seems to get very warm. (CPU at normal speed again)
Someone having the same issues or a solution?
Sorry for my bad English

I have exactly the same problem with my Leo - I tried several Android ROMs - same result. Bute I also had freezes as WM6.5 was installed so I think it`s a hardware problem as other Leo`s seem to work fine with Google Maps Navigation. On Monday I will get my new Leo - After flashing I will post any news as soon as possible.
CU!

My English is poor, but too XDA worship. So come learn, support.

Thanks for the reply. I had no problems when Windows Mobile 6.5 was still installed on my HTC HD. Also did not found a solution yet.
What the meaning of the last reply is??

hoerni1000 said:
I have exactly the same problem with my Leo - I tried several Android ROMs - same result. Bute I also had freezes as WM6.5 was installed so I think it`s a hardware problem as other Leo`s seem to work fine with Google Maps Navigation. On Monday I will get my new Leo - After flashing I will post any news as soon as possible.
CU!
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I've the same problem on my HD2 on Android Rafpgina 4.2 Rom
It freez by about 5/10 mn using Navigation
Trying other Radios = same problem
Could you tell me if the change of your HD2 resolved the problem ?
It should suggest a gps chipset problem

Yeap, still the same problem and I can't figure out why.
I've tried more than 10 different apps, but allways the same. After some time the phone freezes. I remove the battery, start the app and after a while, the same.
I tried working with battery only or with car charger only, still the same.
I removed and brought back all my apps with titanium backup, still the same.
I have a suspicion that when it stacks and after rebooting, if I leave it in peace (I mean don't do anything with the phone, just keep it without running any app), for some time (10-20 minutes), then it starts and keeps the gps app more time, than the time of the initial freezing. Maybe this is a symptom that could ring a bell to an experienced guy...
Anybody, any ideas?
I use Leo with nand froyo 2.2

I do not ues google navigation, support.

Another sister thread
There is also this thread, by gunjahman, with the same subject (more or less) so we can combine powers.
Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12398773

If you are using gps navigation software on sd card, try format micro sd card with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE option, do not choose allocation size such as 32,64 or any other except DEFAULT.
Try it and GL.

@gunjahman,
Thanks for the URL, I will follow that thread also.
The software isn't installed at the SD card.

Crash-nl said:
@gunjahman,
Thanks for the URL, I will follow that thread also.
The software isn't installed at the SD card.
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Then free up your phone memory as much as you can, move everything you can on your sd card which is formated with FAT32 and DEFAULT ALLOCATION SIZE.

That was the exact issue I had with my phone.
iGO and Aura worked fine in the beginning but Google Navigation would freeze the phone at random times. Only solution was to pull out the batt.
Mine became worse when iGO and Aura also started loosing GPS lock and the only way to get it working again was to reboot.
In the end I sent my phone back to warranty and they replaced 'a board'
Working fine now.

Sorry, that I didn't replied earlyer. To busy with work and other things. I delivered the HD2 to Vodafone so they can hand over to repair, get a suggestion back, because they told this isn't within the guarantee. The printboard need to be replaced. I think they mention the motherboard and they told the battery gets to hot.(total costs €285,-) This isn't what my complain was, so answerred back that the phone freezes when enable the GPS module and not the battery gets to hot. Told the battery gets warm, because the phone get warm. Waiting now for an answer back.

Better late, then nothing. This is solved for me, found the same phone on marketplace a few months ago.
Thanks for helping me.