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S200 hangs in bootloader after softreset

Hi all,
Since last friday I'm the happy owner of an S200, until sunday atleast. After a soft-reset, initiated from windows, my device won't boot anymore. It hangs in the red-green-blue bootloader screen (says: IPL 2.09, SPL 2.09). I've tried soft-resets and hard-resets, but the device would consequently keep hanging in the bootloader.
So for the past few days I've been searching the web and just managed to update the ROM. I was expecting that updating the ROM succesfully would mean my device would boot again, but it still keeps hanging in the bootloader (saying IPL 2.09 SPL 2.15 now, so the update did take place).
Does anyone has any idea whats wrong with my phone? Or how to fix this? Please help.

* bump *
I've been searching further and tried to do a SD dump, but I'm getting the message I don't got enough rights to perform a SD dump. This meens my S200 isn't CID unlocked. Is there any way to CID unlock the device without the need of booting into WM?

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Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine

hi syzzer,
i really feel with you - why? - i have the exactly same problem. after i tried to upgrade my rom from o2-germany to another one the device isn't starting anymore and hangs in the beautiful-colored bootloader. and now, if i just even want to re-install the same or another rom, doesnt matter which one, the s200 wont start again. i think this is a really unlucky situation for us to stand alone with our weak pda =) hoping for more help, otherwise we have to take up our warranty and try to get it fixed by the store we did buy it (if a rom-update damage is still in warranty )
good luck
budy!

awechris said:
Hello, if you are having bootloader screen right after starting your mobile (prophet) check if your camera button is depressed since i had the similar problem. In my case i had to disassembly the phone in order to fix it. Right after fixing the button it worked fine
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in my case, the camera button is not pressed in... i truly don't know what to do hopeless? mhm?
greets!
budy!

hello Syzzer
I have the same problem, but i make a soft reset and it works.
Camera but + Com Button + Power
Wait until message appear.
You Get the message : For Hard reset press send
If you choose other key the system boots normaly.

I had already tried all your suggestions, but nothing seemed to work.
About a month ago I bought a Trinity. In the mean while, I forgot I had put my S200 in my bag and carried it around for a month. When I found it a week ago and started pressing random buttons, it suddenly booted and has been working ever since! The problem has gone as mysterious as it came. I can only imagine there was some hardware failure / dirt in my device that caused the trouble and is now gone / moved to some place it does not do harm. Because I already bought a Trinity, I gave the S200 to my brother. He's been using it ever since and did not have any problems. So keep your head up, there's hope!

I m also having the same problem
Now I am having the same problem, no button is pressed, and I can not install the NVID ROM
Actually I can install only a few ROMs, the NVID ROM was working before on my Neo perfectly but, I think it can be because I have changed many ROMs, from a month, actually I have tried different WM6 ROMs and I used NVID ROMs mostly for Step 1.
Now when I install any ROM, it shows a msg some nbf one after 80% or 95%
It can install the pdaviet first step ROM, but now the problem is that it hangs very much and it can not start Wifi, it has stopped working, a few more ROMs i have tried, but the WIFI is completely stopped.
When I press it in communication manager, it will show busy icon for a few seconds and will not start it in end.(I tried it in both WM5 and WM6, same problem, I also tried after soft reset and hard reset, the problem is still there)
Please someone help me out.

ROM or the motherboard ?

I attemted to flash my Kjam to WM6 & it went dead. It wont start at all. Kjam Service centre says there is a problem in the mother board and it needs to be replaced for $ 300+........now if flash fails...the ROM must have gone corrupt , what has it to do with the motherboard ?
can anyone throw light on whats the real thing ?
Deven.

take out the battery for hours then re-install it. try to boot in bootloader mode first(3 colors). If it work, it's the time to re-flash the right rom now!

When you start the device up what happens?

Same Problem accured for me!!!!!!!
I installeda new rom and my device didn't power on after that.
What should i do now?

afghahi said:
I installeda new rom and my device didn't power on after that.
What should i do now?
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Nobody here is providing any details so everything is going to be just a guess. If either of these phones were a G4 and you flashed a rom that tried to update the IPL/SPL then its very likely you have bricked your device. But again, with no information about what rom you were trying to flash, what your IPL/SPL were beforehand, or details about what it means that it won't turn on, everything is just a guess...

Bricked Kjam
its comletely dead.....i had disconnected the battery for a couple of days then connected it but it wont start....i checked the battery using multimeter it is fully charged....neither does it power ON when connected to mains...It doesnt get detected when connected to the USB port..thats obvious since it is not powering up...so cant flash it again.. now m in a fix as to whether to spend another fortune after this sweetheart or keep it in a showcase ....
Deven
( a bricked KJam )

If nothing lights up that looks pretty terminal. :-(
Maybe you could buy a broken Wizard with a working motherboard? Alternatively maybe sell off your mostly working Wizard on this forum to raise money to buy a new device?
Sorry if you can't get it going. :-(

Bricked Hermes (SPV M3100) while flashing SPL - any help or sugestion are wellcomed

All started with trying to upgrade(rewrite) the GSM part because the Hermes had problems with phone part - when trying to call - the phone stop responding, bus the pda part sill worked.
So - I tried and tried and tried again, reading many threads about HARD SPL,Flashing radio, etc. Nothing worked..
In the end "i managed" to kill GSM - phone had "No Gsm" on boot-up.
From there i tried to downgrade SPL to 1.04 so that i try to "raw" rewrite the GSM part.
But something went terribly wrong, and while downgrading SPL, the phone suddently shutdown and never opened again.
Now i have the folowing situation: NO BOOTLOADER, no usb conectivity, nothing
This means that i cannot connect via USB whatever i try.
Is there any hope for me? or is it TOTALLY BRICKED?
Any help is apreciated!! I can even dismantle the mobile if there is any way to flash it via some kind of jtag connection...anything ...

The folks at www.imei-check.com can do the JTAG flashing. Just email them. It would be costly for you to do it yourself...

Are you saying that the phone won't turn on at all or that it does but you can't get a bootloader screen?
Have you tried taking the battery out for a while? Have you tried flashing an OEM rom and radio compatible with your device off an SD card?
All of this info is in the wiki, as are OEM roms you can flash.
Let us know how you get on.
Good luck.
WB

Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset

@wacky.banana: The phone is totaly dead: no bootloader, doesn't boot at all, doesn't seem to have any USB conectivity at all. Flashing from micro sd doesn't work : probably because the bootloader isn't working.
@drummer10630: i'll check with imei-chek about jtag flashing, especially the price and shiping costs.thanks
@markafreeman: I tried, but when i put the battery in, the red light goes off, not to amber . no soft or hard reset helps. not even leaving the battery out for 2 weeks - i had tried that too . thanks anyway.
Anything else I can try? - phone totaly dead, no bootloder, no usb conectivity - cannot use mtty, cannot flash from microsd

I had to get a replacement device at that point when it happened to me.
Maybe someone else know a way to get it working.
Good luck.

get onto orange
tell them you dropped the phone
and it crashed and wouldnt turn on
so you managed to hard reset it
and it crashed an ****ed up
they'll replace it
well they will send it to HTC
who just replace the handset rather than repair it

Hi dancameo2k , maybe you will not remember but plz:
I ve bought recenty an spv m3100, im effortless trying to flash the rom to an wm6 version.
Like you ive started with the hardsppl flash thing to prevent bricking it and prior to sd flashing... and im not sure if its workin...
plz can you explain in detail how did you bricked it??? thx!!!!
the rom you used to flash was an american version or european one???

anybody could help me? rom upgrade failed! (no solution on the forum, for 3 months:()

hi all,
i have an htc p 3300, actually used to have... becasuse;
i have tried to upgrade to wm 6.0... no problem seems to appear for the first two days... but then, suddenly screen gone black... i have tired to reboot it but no way... i took the battery away for a while... then it worked... i downgraded to 5.0... but the same problem still exists... now the situation is; if i remove battery for a while, it works; both in bootloader, and normal wm 5.0... i uspl it, flash new rom... but the common things such as 260-270 errors etc... a few times i succeeded to flash new rom... it worked again.. but then screen goes black as if it was broken... it is freezing and getting fade to black...
any body could help me???? i've been working for 3 months.... i bought a new kaiser plus a new iphone... but i miss my arteMISS

hate to say it but in this situation I'm inclined to think that it is a hardware issue.
Sorry you have this issue. I have a service manual for my Wizard/Prodigy.
There may be a way for you to put your ppc into bootloader by using the buttons, and then reflash the rom.
I once had a malfunction flashing the rom and that fixed it. on mine it was [Camera +Reset+release camera] i don't know if that might work, but it is worth a try to put your phone into bootloader first. also, you should remove the battery and hold the power button for a few to make sure that the ram is completely wiped. Flash the official rom and see if that worx.
Good luck.

hi
My artemisis also dead. Afterhard reset it start the bootscreen and nothing als. What must i do ?
Please helo my. Thanks

Updating Radio on Hero now it won't turn on!!!

I was going to install the new MoNaCo Rom but I did the radio update first after I install the update my phone looked like it was going to reset, it turned off and never came back on. My battery was fully charged and I just can't seem to get it back on. I pressed the power/home buttons and that doesn't turn it on either HELP!!! Is there anyway I could do a hard reset or anything I can do to get it to at least power up?

Did you make wipe before update to the new radio?

ivanrod07 said:
I was going to install the new MoNaCo Rom but I did the radio update first after I install the update my phone looked like it was going to reset, it turned off and never came back on. My battery was fully charged and I just can't seem to get it back on. I pressed the power/home buttons and that doesn't turn it on either HELP!!! Is there anyway I could do a hard reset or anything I can do to get it to at least power up?
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I suppose you have a GSM HERO and flashed it with a GSM Radio, right? If not (CDMA phone/GSM Radio or vice-versa) and it doesent boot up after taking out/reinserting the battery multiple times then it's bricked for good at this stage IMHO. JTAG should help, provided someone had documented the procedure for the GSM HTC HERO. Btw, it's MoDaCo, not MoNaCo

miragebg said:
Did you make wipe before update to the new radio?
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There's no requirement to wipe before flashing a new radio, as the "wipe" doesn't effect the radio part of the ROM.
Regards,
Dave

I was doing the radio first then I was going to do the wipe.

ivanrod07 said:
I was doing the radio first then I was going to do the wipe.
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You diddnt answer about which hero you have, cdma or gsm? and which radio did you use.

you probably pulled the battery out during the procedure. when flashing, you do a reboot after the recovery tells you to and you leave it for around 20 minutes and it will boot up completely. you should never interupt it during this 20 minutes

hi
i'm new here, and i have almost the same problem exposed 2 years ago here. i have updated the firmware of my hero gsm and all was good, but one i updated tne radio rom, the hero doesen't want to work, it boots but stops on the first screen. i pressed lots of time on home/back and power, it boots normally but stop at the first screen, as if the back button doesn't work, but two days ago, alla the buttons were working.
i hope you will show me a solution other than gtag for the moment.
thanks

should i do this post in an other subjet?

if you flash the wrong radio,it must broken ,can you enter fastboot? if you can't enter,you have to use jtag to fix it

I can JTAG the HERO and I'm in Texas if anyone needs help with these.

HI
Thank you for the answer, zhaominghao,
no, the fast boot is inaccessible. And concerning the Jtag, i gave the phone to some one to reapre it with it, but he told me that there is problems of connectors. is this true or there is annother reason? i dont really know, i hope i was able to try the jtag my self, but i dont have the device jtag. i hope i wil found a solution.
thank you again.

If you can't get into recovery to attempt a reflash then JTAG is the only option and if the shop said it can't be done... time for a new hero

If the phone has damaged JTAG points then it's a loss. If they are intact then it's fixable with JTAG.