Well, this is the first time i have made a thread. I bought an HTC Wizard about 2 weeks ago, i got it from a guy on ebay. The charger that came with it worked great, no problems at all, just happy to have my pocket pc back. the other day i ran in to a problem i was stuck with a dead mda and no charger. I went to the store and bought an iGo charger. i figured since my batt. was completly dead i would have to let it sit on the charger for a while. It charger for 24 hours and nothing, no indicator light not bootloader no power up. i finally got the charger that came with the phone. and it still will not charge. i tested both the chargers and the fuction properly with other phone so that rules that out. i need help i am now out of a phone. can some one HELP ME!!!
Try to charge the battery with other phone,you might need to 'Jump Start' the battery.
A completely discharged battery will only get charged with a wall charger capable of 1 amp out put or jump start the battery and it'll start to charge,but if the battery is gonner and faulty,it won't charge at all,you'll have to get a new one.
I think I'm having the same problem as the OP. My phone ran dead the other day in the middle of a call. I tried to restart it so I could send a text to the person I was on the phone with to let them know that I would call back when I charged my phone. It stuck on the splash screen and I'm pretty sure that it drained the battery completely. Now, it won't charge and the indicator doesn't come on.
Can you tell me more about this "jump start" that you speak of? More specifically, can you explain how to do it and what is needed?
What you need to do is get ahold of a standard 9-voly batter and 2 wires. On your Wizards battery, locate the positive(+) and negative(-) terminals, and hole one end of each wire there, then on the 9-volt, hold the corresponding wire to said terminal(pos to pos, neg to neg) and hold it there for approximantely 30 seconds. After waiting for 30 seconds, put the battery back in the Wizard and connect it to a wall charger that outputs 1AMP or higher and it should charge.
Same thing happened to me -let the battery get too low and then couldn't charge it with the phone. I bought a desktop charger for wizard battery from ebay and a spare battery. The performancde from the battery is much better from the desktop than it is when charged in the phone. For the sake of £3 it's worth a shot.
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The battery died on my Wizard. It kept beeping at me telling me that it was going low and then finally it powered itself off. Now, it won't even take a charge. (I plug the charger in and it doesn't even light up.)
Cingular is sending me a new 8125, but I was wondering if there was a way to get this one working before Monday so I can get some data off of it.
I'm sure I probably need a stronger charger, as I've heard that the 1A charger that comes with the Wizard sometimes will correct this issue. (I bought my 8125 off of eBay and the guy only sent some aftermarket travel charger for a V3.)
how about borowing a charged baterie from a friend or even the from aCingular store.
You need the original charger to charge the battery when it gets dangerously low. If the battery completely died, you most likely damaged it anyway (it's a lithium battery, and should never be allowed to drain all the way). When the new one comes, try the new battery in the old unit.
You have to charge it with the original charger, if you don't have or you still have problems you can see here what i do to charge the battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40399&highlight=
Interesting.. I'm going to try that in the morning.
Normally it's plugged in most of the time in the car cradle. I had been using it for navigation all day on Friday and I was in and out of the car all around the city so I guess I forgot to plug it in most of the time. (I had my BT GPS plugged in instead.)
Hope that works!
That worked!
It was kind of "ghetto" but cutting apart an old USB cable. holding the red/black wires to the +/- terminals on the battery respectively for about 3 minutes jolted it back to life! That was just enough to get enough juice to load Windows, to seemingly activate the charging circuit.
Wonder what I should do.. Take the warranty 8125 or send it back saying I got mine working. Reloading will be a pain though, so I might just keep this one.
well i let my phone die down. Forgot to charge it for a couple days of non use. Now its been on the charger for almost 24 hours and it still wont power on. I have noticed that my green charge light wont even power on. Any suggestions?
prophit40 said:
well i let my phone die down. Forgot to charge it for a couple days of non use. Now its been on the charger for almost 24 hours and it still wont power on. I have noticed that my green charge light wont even power on. Any suggestions?
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Well, letting your battery completely drain, won't damage your phone. More info please.
Thats all that happened. It went dead lastnight and i put it on the charger about an hour after it powered off. It did turn on for 2 seconds earlier but never went past the first post screen. Maybe a bad battery?
Hmm... interesting. Well, if a simple soft reset or holding down the power button doesn't work, I might try going to the cell phone shop and see if they have one on display you can swap batteries with to test the bad battery theory.
Also, this may seem a bit obvious, but have you tried a different outlet and have you just unplugged and re-plugged the power adapter in the phone itself?
actually, its more than likely the battery is too dead to be charged from the phone. There has to be some juice in it for it to be charged from the phone. You can either give the battery a 'jump' by using a cut USB cable (search for that solution) or buy a battery charger just for the battery. There are several on Ebay for real cheap.
well finally got home and was able to put in my spare battery. Fired right up. I have it on a charger right now with my spare battery. The old one is fried. I can get another one for cheap on ebay. Thanks alot for the suggestions!
prophit40 said:
well finally got home and was able to put in my spare battery. Fired right up. I have it on a charger right now with my spare battery. The old one is fried. I can get another one for cheap on ebay. Thanks alot for the suggestions!
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The "dead" battery is likely just fully discharged. There are a couple of methods mentioned in the forums to fix, one is to use a 9v battery to "zap" it a few times and give it a little bit of charge, the other is to strip the wires off a USB cable and stick the +(red)/-(black) cables directly on the battery nodes and charge the battery a bit. I have done the second method myself (only last week in fact) and it works. All you need is enough of a charge for the phone to boot so you can continue charging with your normal method.
Simple questions to the long story I wrote below the line(didn't realize it was so long):
I have two batteries that get a red light when trying to charge and they will not charge. I'm using a travel charger that came with the phone (used, not sure if it is the original charger). Input is 110-220V 50-60Hz Output is 5.5V 500mA. Says model T-HT-8125-SH on it.
Based on my findings, the phone should charge with 1.0A so it makes me think this is not an original charger. Old posts stated if the battery was this empty you need an original charger since it is the only thing strong enough.
The second question regards a new battery (just bought - one of the two above) dropping from having about 50% to having 0%. This is described in the story below, but could switching batteries / putting in a dead battery anything like this cause the new battery to lose it's charge all of the sudden? Or could there be damage to the phone other than the battery causing this issue?
Anyone have experience with this? What specs on a charger am I looking for that match the original charger? I may find other mini USB chargers around and if I have one that matches I can try it. I just don't want to damage the phone.
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I have a wizard I bought used a couple months ago. It worked fine until a water damage issue occurred. I let it dry out for a week and then it was back to working fine. The only thing I noticed afterwards was sometimes the battery would drop from about 75% to 25% really quickly when it did not used to.
Last weekend, it was charging overnight and in the morning it would not turn on at all. I tried taking the battery out and trying to charge it again without success. The orange light usually does not come on. I either get no light, or a red light. Sometimes the red light stays, sometimes it blinks, but usually it is red when I first plug it in for a couple seconds then goes away.
I read recently in the manual that red means it is in LDO charging mode, thus the battery is empty. I thought the battery was dead so I ordered a replacement. It arrived, I stuck it in, it worked.
Now the weird part - I let it charge some on the new battery (it was around 18% when I got it). Then I decided to test the old battery and make sure that was indeed the problem. The phone wouldn't turn on or charge. However, I put the new battery back in and there is no charge. I tried charging it and the light was orange as it should be. However, after a couple more battery switches (I found out about the red light / orange light from the manual at this point so I went to test that with the old), the new battery is acting like the old battery. Both get a red light and will not charge.
Any ideas?
No answers for you but -
My original HTC charger has the following stats:
HTC p/n 70h00051-01
Model ADP-5FH B
Input 100-240v~0.2A 50-60Hz
Output 5V 1A LPS
Thanks for the details. I suppose mine isn't an original charger as it only has half the power yours does (and is a different model). It is probably some generic third-party charger.
For anyone interested, I did manage to get the phone charging by jump starting the battery with a 9 volt battery (saw an old post about it). Just connect the positive terminal of 9V to positive end of battery, and negative end of 9V to negative on battery. I used the metal from the inside of twist ties to connect the two batteries. Hold for about 15 seconds, then see if it will charge. If not, take battery out of phone again and use the 9V for another 15 seconds..See if it will charge afterwards. It only took a couple tries before it had enough power to start charging with my charger. Just don't hold it too long as the 9V is nearly twice what you need.
Anyways - it's charging now and is at 80%. We will see if it works like it should afterwards. If so, then I will have two working batteries for the phone.
Note - this shouldn't be an issue with an original charger that is 1.0A. It seems the third party ones are less (500mA, or my car charger is 650mA). I imagine the original charger is strong enough to get it started even on a completely empty battery. If not, the 9V battery sure is.
Just an update - not sure what is going on. It finished charging and the light turned green. As soon as I unplugged the wall charger, it dropped down to 51%. Ok...so that was weird...maybe it wasn't really charged. So, I let it charge up to 100% again. Light turns green. Unplugged it, dropped immediately to 39%.
Anyone have any idea why it would lose a large amount of charge when I unplug the cable? I'm charging it for the third time now...I'm not sure what is going on.
This is all with one battery (the old one). I haven't done anything with the new battery yet to try and get it to charge, but this might explain how the new battery lost the charge it did have and became empty like the original battery - perhaps it lost it's charge when I unplugged it just as the old one is doing...in which case this seems like a phone problem...hopefully not though.
Hi,
My wizard main battery (wiza16) was very low and the wizard stop with a message “The internal battery is very low”. After coming back home I have tried to charge but it is not taking charge and didn’t turn on anymore. I recently bought a new battery (wiza16, 3.7 VDC, 1250 mAH) thinking that it will work again but still the same problem, wizard is not taking charge or turn on.
Can anyone help me?? What can I do to start my wizard? Do I need to change the tiny little battery (which is inside the wizard)? Kindly help me.
Wizard service manual
Hi,
See if when you connect the power plug the led turns red, if yes....
If Charge light is red when plug in AC adapter, it means the main battery is not charge enough and can’t power on,
You just need to continue charge unit the light become Amber
If not, i think you have a problem.
Check if charger its working and if its pluged.
If it helps --- ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Docs_Tutorials/Wizard_Service_Manual.pdf
Wizard Battery discharge completely
Hi,
Thanks for quick reply. there is no light when i connect my wizard with PC. I don't have the AC charger, I have lost that for long and was using my PC usb to charge. trying to get one AC charger.
There was no problem with my wizard, just can't turn on after it's battery discharge completely. Even the new battery couldn't turn that on.
You'll need the original charger if the battery has complelty discharged as it will only charge from the computer if the phone is powered on.
This happened to me before.
There is a trick to giving the battery a quick charge which will give it enough juice to boot the phone up and allow it to charge from usb. its not recommended but works.
You will need a spare usb cable, cut one end of, strip the wires back and connect the red wire to + and the black to - on the battery, only do it for a short period, about 30 seconds while conneted to your computer.
You may need to give it a few 30 second bursts to give it enough juice.
Pop the battery back into the phone and switch it on while pugged into the PC
Took me a few attempts to get enough charge in the battery for it to boot up.
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You can also use a 9V battery to jumpstart your battery. But then you have to be more careful. I connected the 9v battery to my Wizard battery for about 15 seconds, then tried to start up my device. If not successful I started again with 15 seconds jumpstart..
But you can find more information here in the forum: just search for jumpstart or something similar....
Regards
huibuh_!
Wizard Battery discharge completely
Thank you all for information. 9V battery method didn't work for me. Looking for AC charger online and get a link (http://www2.dustin.se/pd_5010073700.aspx). Do you think this is the right one? If yes, then I can order.
yea that's the right one but if you have a friend with a ppc or maybe a razor you can use there charger most ac adapters are starting to use mini usb just a way of saving some money even though having an ac adapter is good
could also try and get one of those usb plugs that you can plug up to a wall and plug in a usb cable into the slot
but don't take my word for this wit hmy wizard i haven't had it shut all the way day
if anybody can verify this would work
AC charger not also working
I have got the AC charger yesterday. When Connect the Ac charger first time the red light on my wizard showed for just half second then dissappear. Still let that connected for whole night but no response.
Thank you all for help.
@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.
ashasaur said:
@Keland44, most Razr chargers dont work, they MUST be at least 850mA in order for the Wizard's battery to receive anything. The older Razr chargers are sometimes as low as 350mA, but the never ones are as high as 1.2A, so you need to read the label on the charger itself to be sure.
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Yup that is about right,
If the battery is complelty dead, then you need to original charger.
If you have got the right charger and you get a red light and it goes off. your phone might have a problem.
This happened to my last wizard after stupidly trying to dry out the screen after getting it wet which stopped the touchscreen working (i was drying it out while the phone was still on) well my wizard crashed.
Took ages to get it back on but it was very unreliable then one day, it wouldnt go on and charger done nothing. Unpluging and pluging the charger in several times got a red light on.
Sometimes i could get it to turn on, the charger would charge for about 5 minutes then the phone would die soon after.
Your phone might possibly be bricked.
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I Have Same Problem with my wizard
Yesterday my wizard goes died, i think the battery out
when i came home, i use AC Charger for HTC Universal, for 1st time its red light then off,
after 15 minutes orange light, i try to turn on my wizard and works but only in boot loader 5 minutes again its going off again
until now my wizard wont turn on
some body help
Hi everyone. I've made the error of letting my Wizard get to 0% battery charge... so, when I tried to charge it up, no deal. I read around why, and I understood how this phone charges the battery: ok, no big deal. I followed a couple of posts here, on how to revive the Wizard. I used a 9V battery to let it boot... and it booted! But the battery never kept charge... well, I dunno: the battery status screen showed some percentages, but to be honest it never kept charge, or I had already fried the phone, thus the battery didn't get any charge/the phone couldn't start.
Then I got smarter, I read that a spare battery and the original wall charger would've been better... I took another battery, I attached its 1A wall charger... red blinking led, which sometimes stops blinking.
I fried the mainboard, didn't I ? I'm starting to think that 9V is a lil bit too much.
UPDATE EDIT: Well, I've done some electronic necromancy... the two batteries I had won't charge. I've managed to piggy back them with a power supply, they can boot the phone. Whee. Then I plug in the original wall charger, and... after 5-10 minutes, bang, power goes down. How much voltage do those batteries output after this little trick? 0.00, 0.01. Well, I just bought a new battery... but I still fear I might have fried something. I'm gonna charge one of those old batteries with the power supply and see what happens.
How to Recharge battery. When battery goto 0%
try this.. mine worked. Take a USB Cable cut the small end of the usb cable
not the side that goes to the computer. Strip the wire . all you need is the
red and the black wire. the rest fold it or cut it short. First : take the battery out of the phone. SECOND: Plug the usb to the computer ** becareful don't let the open wire touch each other it will shut your computer down or burn your usb port. THIRD ut the red wire to the + (positive ) and the black wire to the - (negative) on the battery for 1-3 minute. then put the battery back in the phone, turn it on , then plug your charger quickly. Hope this help you..
Thanks for the advice, goon1. I'm going to try this tomorrow, you'll have updates
The battery kept charge for like 10 minutes... then, bam, it's dead. It won't charge with the wall charger, it won't with the usb charger, nothing at all. I hope I just overloaded it and broke when I clumsly tried to reboot my phone, which I'll discover as soon as my new battery will get here from HK
that mean you have a bad battery. MADE IN CHINA. doesn't live up to it name.
the battery from there loose it charge quick. Remember they run 220 and we run 110. Just get a good battery from USA.
Batteries do wear out, and it shows when they wont hold their charge...
Before you conclude your phone is damaged, buy and try a new battery. ;-)
Peter
UPDATE
Since I didn't want to spend too much on a phone I consider bricked, I bought a 3$ battery from HK.
New, supposedly working... the red led is watching me.
Another detail: the power button does not work. In the rare cases where the phone booted, pushing it to go in stand by didn't work.
I'm more and more convinced that I fried something.