TXT Messages Don't Really Delete - Mogul, XV6800 General

I have found that the more messages I have in my in/out boxes for text messages, the more frequently I have to do a soft reset because WM froze. So, I periodically clear my boxes. However, I reciently got a replacement phone because of a bluetooth issue. Now, with the new phone, I cant get the messages to really delete. I have tried "Clear Text Messages," manually deleting the txts then deleting again from the deleted box, and using the "Empty Deleted Items." Each time the texts disapear, but when I do a soft reset, they return. WTF??
The phone is a stock Verizon VX6800 with no custom ROMs/Radios/etc. The only aftermarket software I have installed yet is ThemeMaster to switch my themes.
Does anyone know how to fix this?

Anyone know what's going on with this?

Only thing I have to suggest is before you reset the device, make sure your text message app is shut off. Typically you'll lose new texts and such when you don't, works the same for everything deleted. Or just use the power button to shut it off. I heard it turns off everything for you when you do that.

JReb22 said:
I have found that the more messages I have in my in/out boxes for text messages, the more frequently I have to do a soft reset because WM froze.
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I think this is a lot of poo myself. What does it matter if a message is setting in a file with no activity.
But yes, as mentioned, try shutting down your messaging in the running programs after you delete them. Then reset it.

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SMS msgs getting wiped after SOFT reset

Only recently got my T-Mobile branded Vario direct from them brand new and I've noticed that after I perform a soft reset all my messages, regardless of whether they have been read or not, get wiped.
I've checked Deleted Items, Drafts, Inbox, Outbox and Sent Items folders and they are all empty! I can absolutely assure you that I did not delete any of the messages myself.
Thinking that I might of had some conflict with another piece of sofware I had installed I decided to perform a hard reset and get everything set back to T-Mobile factory defaults. After all the Extended-Rom branding stuff got installed I decided to leave the phone exactly as it was, no tweaking of any settings, no installing any extra apps, no active-syncing, no nothing - a fresh factory reset!
Then, I sent another text message to the Vario. It arrived and after I read it and confirmed that it was indeed in the Text Message Inbox folder I quit out of the message app and perform a soft reset. Guess what happened after it restarted? Yep, the text message has miraculously disappeared
Anybody else seen this happen?
Anyone care to comment? Please reply even if your text msgs DON'T get wiped as I'd like to find out whether it's normal or not.
not got a T-mobile ROM, i'm using the O2 one (and now the updated version) and have never lost text messages from a soft reset (only a hard reset)
Sry i cant help further
just started happening to me and i been using the 2.17 rom.. i noticed this yesterday it deleted like 5 msgs but i got my other ones there so i was like WTFD?
I've just had this on a Universal (Orange M5000) with the latest Orange ROMs.
Prior to this, I suddenly had days and days of delivery notifications come flooding in, although this may have been an issue with either Orange or another network provider.
hi for me its not the txt messages but all new files that is created on the sd card gets deleted an all deleted files reappears after a soft reset
m really bugged
if ne 1 knows whats the problem pls help me
thanks
Loosing SMs messages.
If you have received a SMS message and soft reset before closing POutlook then I have found that you do loose the message.
By closing, I mean really closing it - not just pucsing the X button.
Likewise if you have deleted a message or moved it then the message(s) come back.
It seems to be that POutlook doesn't commit the changes to it's database until you close the app - or switch accounts.
Charlie Grillo
That certainly seems to be the case with me, I was having trouble syncing with activesync, just dying each time I tried so in the end I hit the soft reset, I'm fairly certain that I still had outlook running at that point.
Actually, thinking about it, there were two batches of sms msgs, and I did end task on outlook after the first, so I can maybe understand that the second lot could be lost, but not the first?
Is there any way of validating the system databases?
The problem that I was having, disappearing SMS msgs, seems to have gone away and everything is still intact now even after multiple soft resets.
In case anyone else gets this strange behaviour, I can indeed confirm that POutlook.exe was indeed closed as I had also double checked the running programs list * to ensure no other processes were open that could conflict.
( * Start -> Settings -> System -> Memory ->Running Programs )
bbut also make sure tmail.exe is closed to.. get memmaid ull be suprised at all whats running.. the best thing to do is to use SmartSKey and make that close ur txt message app completelty!
poutlook.exe tmail.exe and sMSNserver.exe/pMSNserver.exe ...if these are open chances are ur sms/mms may be wiped after a soft-reset i make sure to sync my phone to pc and use jeyo outlook companion b4 a soft-reset

Text Messages Being Stored

I hear that the text messages don't get stored on the phone IF the phone is reset using soft reset (or when crashes and restarted using soft reset).
Is there any workaround?
Can text messages be saved to memory card whenever they are recieved (like the option on a Symbian Smartphone to save the texts to Storage Card)?
Is this a HTC TyTN Firmware issue? OR a Global Windows Mobile Problem?
Cheers
G.
it depends how you reset - if you softreset using your stylus they indeed do not get stored. If you softreset using the off/on button (basically turning the phone off and then back on) they do get stored!
Thanks for the prompt reply
Is this just the way that the Windows Mobile OS Works ??
Or is it just a HTC TyTN issue ?
it was the same with the wizard so I assume it's the way WM works!
Interesting, on a side note.... does this happen in Windows Mobile OS Smartphone aswell ??
Does this refer to read or unread messages ?
On my v1605, I removed the battery this morning to try and loosen the screen to fix the alignment issues, and when I plugged the battery back in and switched the phone on, all my read text messages where still there.
I guess, by chance, your messages were stored to the memory correctly.
If you close the messaging application when your done, like with the task manager or something, does this store the messages correctly Regardless of crashing/soft reset.
I think the problem occurs only with unread messages. Once they are read they remain in the application regardless of resets (with the exception of a hard reset ).
I think even if you open the messages application without reading the message it might be saved im not sure though.
Seems odd, I hope there is more speculation about this, so we all have a good understanding how this works.

Phantom SMS inbox messages

This might be a bit long winded so my apologies in advance.
My XDA11 dumped itself and did a hard reset a couple of days back.
Luckily I had an oldish backup.stg file and was able to restore virtually everything to it's prior, if a bit old, state by restore via active sync.
However I discovered that my SMS and e-mail inboxes were full of messages which were niether readable or deletable.
Interestingly none of them have the envelope icon beside them.
Tapping a message produces a screen activity as if opening the message but nothing appears.
Similarly, tapping and attempting to delete a message results in nothing happening.
However any new SMS messages and e-mails react as usual.
I was able to remove all the 'ghost' messages for my e-mails by deleting all the accounts and then reinstating them however it appears this can't be done for the SMS account.
Through file explorer I deleted all the .mpb files in the /windows/messaging folder. This did not remove the ghosts either.
I have spoken unsuccesfully with O2 who merely think I should hard reset again and then reinstall everything from the ground up. This seems a bit screwy as there has to be folder/file in which these headers are held. They were also apparently unaware that activesync to a hard reset XDA requires I establish a new partnership which wont allow access to the old data (OK I can get round that but that's not the point....)
So has anyone else had this problem and sorted it I wonder?
I can live with these headers but it would be nice to lose them.
Thanks
Slim

Messages not deleting!! Or staying!!!

Hey I have been having this problem...
my phone when ever I do a soft reset, it seems like it goes back to a restore point...
for example... I would delete 50 messages right now...
then later on I would soft reset the phone if necessary. after the soft reset, the messages that I would have deleted would reappear...
OR
I would get messages from people and respond, like a normal texting conversation,
if I reset the phone for some reason, the messages that I recieved would be gone...
now correct me if I'm wrong, but after you delete something permanently, isnt it supposed to completely be off of the memory? so how is it reappearing?
it seems like with all of my messages and emails no matter how many times they are deleted or new ones I get, after a soft reset everything is lost, OR returned.
what is this? I want to free up storage memory on y phone.... what should I do?
BTW I have a wizard
Dunno, just want to say that it does happen with me too.
At first I thought that it's because the sms program is not closed properly. And it turned out that it was not the case.

Help..ALL messaging apps stop working- URGENT

Hi There.
I am sending out this request for help here and at the forums at PCM.... here is the problem:
I use PCM for all my contact needs: SMS/MMS etc. I do not use email.
My phone was working fine up until this morning when I tried to send an sms. It failed but did not say it failed. I tried again. The message sits in the entry field. Thats it. Than all of the sudden PCM closes down. I try to reopen it. It will start than immediately shuts down. I try this several times. Same. I reset the phone. And try again the same things happens.
So I try other versions of PCM. Same result. I try deleting the cache. Same result. Each time I soft reset my phone I get a message saying that Birdysync can't start ( I use this to sync my phone with Mozilla Thunderbird) So I try Deleting birdy from my phone and soft resetting again. Same thing!! I have a notification that I have an unheard voicemail, so I listen to it. that notification WILL NOT go away. I have no voice messages but the phone will not release the notification. I used the little program "Check notifications" I cleared all dupes and as it clears it will just run continuously until I stop it.
I just used "PIM Back up". I am hoping that this will back up all my sms messages will it?
Oh, also, the phones built in messaging app won't even start.
I have an HTC Wizard with winmo 5. Factory os. No mods except new software. Everything was running fine until this morning I have added no new software, and have made no changes in any way to the phone..
Any ideas before I hard reset this thing...I really hope I don't have to.
Thank you all in advance
Found this
Ok..so I found this thread from a little while back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288549
post #7 has a solution. I tried it and it works...THANK God. I was minutes away from a hard reset.
Though I still have the voicemail notification that won't go away. I could still use some help with that.
Thanks

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