Only recently got my T-Mobile branded Vario direct from them brand new and I've noticed that after I perform a soft reset all my messages, regardless of whether they have been read or not, get wiped.
I've checked Deleted Items, Drafts, Inbox, Outbox and Sent Items folders and they are all empty! I can absolutely assure you that I did not delete any of the messages myself.
Thinking that I might of had some conflict with another piece of sofware I had installed I decided to perform a hard reset and get everything set back to T-Mobile factory defaults. After all the Extended-Rom branding stuff got installed I decided to leave the phone exactly as it was, no tweaking of any settings, no installing any extra apps, no active-syncing, no nothing - a fresh factory reset!
Then, I sent another text message to the Vario. It arrived and after I read it and confirmed that it was indeed in the Text Message Inbox folder I quit out of the message app and perform a soft reset. Guess what happened after it restarted? Yep, the text message has miraculously disappeared
Anybody else seen this happen?
Anyone care to comment? Please reply even if your text msgs DON'T get wiped as I'd like to find out whether it's normal or not.
not got a T-mobile ROM, i'm using the O2 one (and now the updated version) and have never lost text messages from a soft reset (only a hard reset)
Sry i cant help further
just started happening to me and i been using the 2.17 rom.. i noticed this yesterday it deleted like 5 msgs but i got my other ones there so i was like WTFD?
I've just had this on a Universal (Orange M5000) with the latest Orange ROMs.
Prior to this, I suddenly had days and days of delivery notifications come flooding in, although this may have been an issue with either Orange or another network provider.
hi for me its not the txt messages but all new files that is created on the sd card gets deleted an all deleted files reappears after a soft reset
m really bugged
if ne 1 knows whats the problem pls help me
thanks
Loosing SMs messages.
If you have received a SMS message and soft reset before closing POutlook then I have found that you do loose the message.
By closing, I mean really closing it - not just pucsing the X button.
Likewise if you have deleted a message or moved it then the message(s) come back.
It seems to be that POutlook doesn't commit the changes to it's database until you close the app - or switch accounts.
Charlie Grillo
That certainly seems to be the case with me, I was having trouble syncing with activesync, just dying each time I tried so in the end I hit the soft reset, I'm fairly certain that I still had outlook running at that point.
Actually, thinking about it, there were two batches of sms msgs, and I did end task on outlook after the first, so I can maybe understand that the second lot could be lost, but not the first?
Is there any way of validating the system databases?
The problem that I was having, disappearing SMS msgs, seems to have gone away and everything is still intact now even after multiple soft resets.
In case anyone else gets this strange behaviour, I can indeed confirm that POutlook.exe was indeed closed as I had also double checked the running programs list * to ensure no other processes were open that could conflict.
( * Start -> Settings -> System -> Memory ->Running Programs )
bbut also make sure tmail.exe is closed to.. get memmaid ull be suprised at all whats running.. the best thing to do is to use SmartSKey and make that close ur txt message app completelty!
poutlook.exe tmail.exe and sMSNserver.exe/pMSNserver.exe ...if these are open chances are ur sms/mms may be wiped after a soft-reset i make sure to sync my phone to pc and use jeyo outlook companion b4 a soft-reset
Related
Hi,
I brought a JasJar this week, and i am having probelms with pocket outlook, when i recived a text message or email or create one and store it, then soft reset. when i start back up they have all gone.
If i sync with my pc the message are put on the jasjar and when i reset they are still there.... just if they were unread when the were put on the device i read them then soft reset it says they are unread.... so i have 20 emails aday that are all unread so after 3 days i have 60 unread mails even thought i have read them.
I also am having probelms with the calander if i softreset after an reminder has gone off (even hours before) it sets of the reminder again it is like the jasjar is not storing anything todo with pocket outlook at all.
Any help or ideas what to do. I have updated the ROM to the lastest one 130.76 i have hard reset many times and still nothing.... can any one help i have only had the think from expansys 4 days.
I get this as well, it's really irritating
Anybody Else?
Does anybody else have the same problem? if there isn't a fix i will be sending mine back as text message is critical to my job and i need old messages.
Does anybody have a fix for it?
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48936&highlight=
why do you soft reset so often?
hanmin is exactly right, WM5 has a delayed write option because if you would write immediately you would kill the flash memory quickly.
A better way is to switch the device off (which will force a buffer flush) and the to soft reset if you really need to do that every fie minutes.
I hear that the text messages don't get stored on the phone IF the phone is reset using soft reset (or when crashes and restarted using soft reset).
Is there any workaround?
Can text messages be saved to memory card whenever they are recieved (like the option on a Symbian Smartphone to save the texts to Storage Card)?
Is this a HTC TyTN Firmware issue? OR a Global Windows Mobile Problem?
Cheers
G.
it depends how you reset - if you softreset using your stylus they indeed do not get stored. If you softreset using the off/on button (basically turning the phone off and then back on) they do get stored!
Thanks for the prompt reply
Is this just the way that the Windows Mobile OS Works ??
Or is it just a HTC TyTN issue ?
it was the same with the wizard so I assume it's the way WM works!
Interesting, on a side note.... does this happen in Windows Mobile OS Smartphone aswell ??
Does this refer to read or unread messages ?
On my v1605, I removed the battery this morning to try and loosen the screen to fix the alignment issues, and when I plugged the battery back in and switched the phone on, all my read text messages where still there.
I guess, by chance, your messages were stored to the memory correctly.
If you close the messaging application when your done, like with the task manager or something, does this store the messages correctly Regardless of crashing/soft reset.
I think the problem occurs only with unread messages. Once they are read they remain in the application regardless of resets (with the exception of a hard reset ).
I think even if you open the messages application without reading the message it might be saved im not sure though.
Seems odd, I hope there is more speculation about this, so we all have a good understanding how this works.
Hey I have been having this problem...
my phone when ever I do a soft reset, it seems like it goes back to a restore point...
for example... I would delete 50 messages right now...
then later on I would soft reset the phone if necessary. after the soft reset, the messages that I would have deleted would reappear...
OR
I would get messages from people and respond, like a normal texting conversation,
if I reset the phone for some reason, the messages that I recieved would be gone...
now correct me if I'm wrong, but after you delete something permanently, isnt it supposed to completely be off of the memory? so how is it reappearing?
it seems like with all of my messages and emails no matter how many times they are deleted or new ones I get, after a soft reset everything is lost, OR returned.
what is this? I want to free up storage memory on y phone.... what should I do?
BTW I have a wizard
Dunno, just want to say that it does happen with me too.
At first I thought that it's because the sms program is not closed properly. And it turned out that it was not the case.
I have found that the more messages I have in my in/out boxes for text messages, the more frequently I have to do a soft reset because WM froze. So, I periodically clear my boxes. However, I reciently got a replacement phone because of a bluetooth issue. Now, with the new phone, I cant get the messages to really delete. I have tried "Clear Text Messages," manually deleting the txts then deleting again from the deleted box, and using the "Empty Deleted Items." Each time the texts disapear, but when I do a soft reset, they return. WTF??
The phone is a stock Verizon VX6800 with no custom ROMs/Radios/etc. The only aftermarket software I have installed yet is ThemeMaster to switch my themes.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
Anyone know what's going on with this?
Only thing I have to suggest is before you reset the device, make sure your text message app is shut off. Typically you'll lose new texts and such when you don't, works the same for everything deleted. Or just use the power button to shut it off. I heard it turns off everything for you when you do that.
JReb22 said:
I have found that the more messages I have in my in/out boxes for text messages, the more frequently I have to do a soft reset because WM froze.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think this is a lot of poo myself. What does it matter if a message is setting in a file with no activity.
But yes, as mentioned, try shutting down your messaging in the running programs after you delete them. Then reset it.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so move the topic if necessary.
A few weeks back I bought an X1(Branded Dutch T-Mobile Version) and I've been having problems with the receiving of SMS'. My Today screen indicates there are new messages, eg. SMS \ MMS: 1 unread. But when I check my messages there's nothing there. I tried to see if it may be a false positive, by having a friend send me a text message, but the number did increase, and the message box was still empty. I tried reseting the rom, which obviously killed the messages, but new messages are still not getting through.
Anybody else experiencing the same problem? Anybody know what is going on? How can I recover the (invisible) messags?
Thanks a bunch
that's weird. uh, really weird. it's either YOU have a bad rom/phone software so better have it checked OR your not looking in your SMS/MMS inbox but your outlook inbox instead.
Aidamina said:
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this so move the topic if necessary.
A few weeks back I bought an X1(Branded Dutch T-Mobile Version) and I've been having problems with the receiving of SMS'. My Today screen indicates there are new messages, eg. SMS \ MMS: 1 unread. But when I check my messages there's nothing there. I tried to see if it may be a false positive, by having a friend send me a text message, but the number did increase, and the message box was still empty. I tried reseting the rom, which obviously killed the messages, but new messages are still not getting through.
Anybody else experiencing the same problem? Anybody know what is going on? How can I recover the (invisible) messags?
Thanks a bunch
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i had the same prob, someone sent me a text and the phone froze, when i turned it on had that message. the only way i found to get rid of it was to delete the message coversation with the person.
i had the same problem, only a hard reset solves the problem. after the hardreset everythink worked fine. some other people at the german xperia board got the same problem.
I tried to hard-reset to no avail. Deleting previous conversations doesn't help. Even SMS' from unknown contacts stay hidden. When I try to export my messages using PIM Backup 2.8 It shows that I have 2 'Text Messages' folders in the export root. One with the hidden(unread) messages. And one with the visible ones. When I exported the messages and reimported them, they stayed hidden. When I wrote a program to parse the PIM Backup exported file. I could see that the hidden messages get properly exported.
Any ideas?
Hearing that the German based roms have troubles too, could it be a reg setting that is wrong, something with localization? I really hate that I have a Dutch rom.
i had this problem i simply hard reset it and it was gone...if this didnt work then try reflashing the orignal rom
I just ran into the same issue.
Funny is that I did hard reset on not flashed orginall Dutch T-mobile X1 which was working good. Well now it is not :/
Tip for others looking for a quick workaround: use uiggmo light panell to read them. The only way I found so far.
I am flashing mine today. (Before I will hand it over due to case issue).