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so I was just wondering how are we going to alt-s or alt-w our androids now that the new ones wont have physical keyboards.
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so I was just wondering how are we going to alt-s or alt-w our androids now that the new ones wont have physical keyboards.
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new recovery images use trackball as well
alapapa said:
new recovery images use trackball as well
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while this is true. It's not gonna be fun when some of us drop down to a console while in recovery mode. (ie. upgrade_fs for upgrading ext2 -> ext3 on cyan's recovery image
The keyboards are multi-touch on the new model
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The keyboards are multi-touch on the new model
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yeah but not in recovery console mode, its gonna suck
dont mean to sound negative... but i read on haykuro's twitter that the Hero has a newer SPL, "perfected" as he calls it, which he says is un-rootable..
we will see how things go with that....
just check the twitter to validate my info
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dont mean to sound negative... but i read on haykuro's twitter that the Hero has a newer SPL, "perfected" as he calls it, which he says is un-rootable..
we will see how things go with that....
just check the twitter to validate my info
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Nothing in unrootable. Maybe it will take longer but I'm pretty sure it will be done. Not taking anything away from Haykuro but yeah nothing is perfect.
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so I was just wondering how are we going to alt-s or alt-w our androids now that the new ones wont have physical keyboards.
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You can use the volume keys to select the option on the recovery screen, then press the trackball button to select that option. You can do this on the G1 or myTouch (Magic).
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The keyboards are multi-touch on the new model
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myTouch does not have multi-touch, though with that kind of name you'd expect it to...
i did not know that about the volume keys good to know.
and there is no thing as a pick safe lock, locks are rated it terms of hours. as in how many hours it will take to pick, so it goes with rom's to.
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Nothing in unrootable. Maybe it will take longer but I'm pretty sure it will be done. Not taking anything away from Haykuro but yeah nothing is perfect.
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If you read his twitter it says it's not rootable (until further notice).
Also, it's the Hero that has real multi-touch.
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Nothing in unrootable. Maybe it will take longer but I'm pretty sure it will be done. Not taking anything away from Haykuro but yeah nothing is perfect.
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Yep. Microsoft's 360 console was supposed to be unhackable as well. It didn't take long
we have found a way to hack any and all electronics in existance, the phone is rootable it might just need a newer mind to take a look. people get into their heads that things can only be done a certain way, there is always another way to do it. to name a few
ALL HTC PHONES
Sony PSP
PS3
Xbox 360
iPhone
mac computers
linux computers
windows computers
i don't think i need to go on, everything is hackable and can be messed with, sometimes it just takes a little more work and a different approach.
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i did not know that about the volume keys good to know.
and there is no thing as a pick safe lock, locks are rated it terms of hours. as in how many hours it will take to pick, so it goes with rom's to.
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... someone's been watching Mythbusters....
-bZj
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... someone's been watching Mythbusters....
-bZj
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Or it could be that some people have that common knowledge? I knew it from buying a safe.
In any case, it really makes me wonder why phone companies bother with lock downs. Sure, some of the general public won't bother trying, but how much money is invested in locking us from root and then lost when a 16 year old kid cracks it?
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Yep. Microsoft's 360 console was supposed to be unhackable as well. It didn't take long
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Microshaft doesn't exactly have a strong track record when it comes to security....
Unlike Linux, which Android *IS*.
That being said, rooting ANY Android device is *easy*. Just not necessarily through the conventional back doors.
If you can read and write the chips, you can very easily make any modifications you like into the root filesystem, which can include adding an 'su' command. Only problem with this is that it generally requires a hardware approach, which is beyond the scope of the average user... who probably shouldn't be messing with root anyways.
I do, however, feel a bit of a letdown in this issue though. The unfortunate thing is that the carriers still are trying to call the shots (and generally succeeding due to popular ignorance). I would like to see this change -- there was once a time when you bought your land phone from the phone company and this is not so any more. Right now, most people are still buying their mobile phone from the phone company, even though it isn't necessary. I would definitely like to see more dealers for non-carrier-specific cell phones, and to have them show up in popular places. I would like to see these sold at places like walmart and radio shack so that you can just walk in and buy a phone with no strings attached.
There are a few reasons why I opted for an ADP1...
1) no contract,
2) no controls,
3) no carrier,
I bought it outright, its mine, and I can do what I like with it. People who are interested in the freedom of an unrestricted device should opt for this approach. ADP1 is STILL AVAILABLE, and there is not much about the new devices that improves on it.. sure I admit that having a little more ram would be nice, but the keyboard sure makes up for it. Yes, the majority of devices can be converted into an unrestricted device, but it just isn't right that you would have to hack it.
Sorry for the offtopic, but show me someone booting ISOs on PS3
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Sorry for the offtopic, but show me someone booting ISOs on PS3
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maybe not ISOs, but it's still been 'hacked' with home-brew firmwares etc.
http://www.ps3-hacks.com/forums/
not exactly
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Microshaft doesn't exactly have a strong track record when it comes to security....
Unlike Linux, which Android *IS*.
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well at the last hacker convention windows vista was not hacked until many third-party apps were involved, linux was hacked long before that. i'm not saying that linux is unsecure because it is very secure in the since that you can't do much if you hack my computer. any real threat would have to have the root password and to get that you would need a keylogger
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but it just isn't right that you would have to hack it.
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hacking the phone is half the fun. i get phones that can be hacked just cause i like to see what they can do.
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hacking the phone is half the fun. i get phones that can be hacked just cause i like to see what they can do.
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Exactly...trying to get the most out of a phone "IS" the fun part! Why do you think we're all in this forum
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well at the last hacker convention windows vista was not hacked until many third-party apps were involved, linux was hacked long before that. i'm not saying that linux is unsecure because it is very secure in the since that you can't do much if you hack my computer. any real threat would have to have the root password and to get that you would need a keylogger
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Dude, vista was hacked before it was even released.
And fyi; hacked = got root. Guessing at some user's password doesn't count. Hacking some particular server (i.e. Apache) doesn't count since it is run jailed (unless the admin is an idiot) and therefore won't let you get root. There have been a VERY FEW true root compromises for Linux, each and every one has been patched within hours (if not minutes) of it being identified, and due to the differing culture around linux, it is a matter of extreme pride to publicly identify security issues, i.e. if you legitimately hack linux, you are most likely going to take full credit for it using your REAL NAME and probably even provide a patch at the same time. Hack windoze though and you release under a fake name using a secure proxy in russia or china, otherwise MS will sue your a$$ until you die of starvation either through judgement or through legal expenses.
In Linux, you are a hero for identifying a security hole and helping to bring the whole thing closer to perfection.
In windoze, you are a criminal for pointing out the ineptitude of MS.
Has anyone ever thought about whether it would be possible to increase the ram/upgrade memory in a G1. As outlandish as this might sound.. similar things have been done for a variety of devices.... if possible it would probably be the number one speed booster out there? or are there certain limitations out there that would make that impossible... Anyone ever opened up a G1?
This might be what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566410
Theres some ram on the g1 that isnt being utilized by default.. this hack, for specific roms, can push the g1 to use more of the rom that it initially comes with. as far as a PHYSICAL upgrade im not too sure how that would work out.. never opened a g1, due to warranty void
This does happen a lot nowadays. Original Xbox's (before v1.6) had extra 'spaces' for RAM chips.
Simple to do, if you can find the right RAM for your device, which was hard enough for the Xbox until a German manufacturer was found.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
Edit: Also remember, this only works if there is an extra 'space,' piggybacking does not work 99% of the time (and I doubt there would be enough space within the housing...)
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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no it has to be the same type maybe hero/magic ram would work who knows
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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There is nowhere to put it.
Ram and rom come integrated on the same chip: samsung k522f1gacm-a060
You need to find a compatible chip (as mentioned, the one from magic or hero *might* be compatible), you also need to program it with something... which you may need to hack together since there is no such thing as a dream with 256MB ram, etc.
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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Good idea
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hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said that what is there must necessarily COME OFF in order to put another one in its place.
And yes, you most definitely CAN program these chips outside the board, as long as you have the right equipment to do so, but the big question is to "program it with WHAT?".
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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As lbcoder has stated, finding a compatible chip isn't the problem.. it's a matter of what do you program onto the chip? Simply replacing the current chip with a blank one wouldn't do anything.
WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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Yea thats the way it would be done. You'd have to hex-edit the dumped rom to address the right amount of memory for the new chip and it should work. I'm certainly not going to be trying this myself but it would be an interesting experiment.
Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Believe it or not guys, my wife can do this. LOL. (I did marry the perfect woman, she also fixes my cars, folds the laundry and gives the best blowjob on earth). I digress <grin>.
If someone wants to donate a couple of bricked phones, I can get the chips swapped out. The issue of hex editing doesn't scare me at all I've been doing that for years, but finding the right addresses could be interesting. I'd probably need help with that as it is a lot different then bipassing a cd check on a video game
i work with embedded devices and here are my 2c about this, but take this lightly, I havent looked at how the G1 is setup on a board yet, nor do I know what hardware it is running.
if there is external ram, then perhaps it is a matter of swapping out the chips, given that they have the same pinout/packaging, etc.. if that was the case, you wouldnt get even another bit of more addressing because to get another bit, another wire is required to address it.
if the ram is internal on the microcontroller, then it would need to be swapped out, and good luck desoldering/soldering a BGA chip by hand. if you manage to find a new MCU with more internal ram to put on, the pinouts would have to be identical or else things might not work. additionally, you would need to have some method to kind of bootstrap the MCU because they typically come blank from the manufacturer.
Ok this is getting interesting... the easiest way to find out is probably contact HTC.. does anyone know someone, or is there a way to contact an engineer... or can anyone look up the specs? If it is using standard ddram by Samsung.. there might be a possibility.
Let me see what I can find for bricked G1's than we might have redir's wife take a look at it.. or John5788, if you'd volunteer. PM me your contact info...
We could just check the service manual, no?
edit: i tried to upload it, but the upload script here blows..
mediafire to the rescue! [download service manual here]
i just looked through the service manual, nothing specific about the ram/mcu locations. everything is just located on the mainboard without any sort of diagram. the people that look at the service manual dont need to know the device at that sort of hardware level.
Can anyone here please for the love of god tell me how to get my damned computer running Window's Xp 03 to detect this HD2. I picked it up for my friend and it was already running Android but all the guys info, pic's and email is still locked into the phone and no clear data doesn't work. I need to access the file that holds all of this and delete it. You can call or skype me and I'll be happy to pay someone to walk me through this. Its worth it to me not to waste anymore time or stress and get him outta my hair.
Jason
Hey there, judging by your area code you are in SC...but where in SC? I'm in Florence...if you are local, I could possibly help you out in person.
I'm in Myrtle Beach, I actually go the hd2 to connect to my macbook and I can make out the files on the sd card I simply don't know which folder contains the personal info stuff, I don't wan to delete the android stuff. Although there is one file called android.
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Can anyone here please for the love of god tell me how to get my damned computer running Window's Xp 03 to detect this HD2. I picked it up for my friend and it was already running Android but all the guys info, pic's and email is still locked into the phone and no clear data doesn't work. I need to access the file that holds all of this and delete it. You can call or skype me and I'll be happy to pay someone to walk me through this. Its worth it to me not to waste anymore time or stress and get him outta my hair.
Jason
Have you uninstalled your antivirus and, then, connected the phone for autodetect? Everytime I flash... the same problem...
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I haven't but I will, right now I have the access I need oddly enough via macbook first try I just need to remember what folder I delete that removes the gmail adress and all the info. I'm copying them all over to my desktop and I guess I'll just delete them one by one.
I will gladly pay someone 50 dollars to fix this garbage for me I'm sick of this phone and ready to wipe my butt with it. Mainly because i tried deleting a file and upon restart now it won't detect there is an sd card which there is. I don't get how easy this is for you guys.
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I will gladly pay someone 50 dollars to fix this garbage for me I'm sick of this phone and ready to wipe my butt with it. Mainly because i tried deleting a file and upon restart now it won't detect there is an sd card which there is. I don't get how easy this is for you guys.
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If you wouldn't delete a file on your computer unless you were REALLY sure you knew what you were doing... DON"T DO IT ON YOUR PHONE! untill you're sure. Just a rule I live by...
P.S. For goodness sake don't mess with the registry!
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I'm in Myrtle Beach, I actually go the hd2 to connect to my macbook and I can make out the files on the sd card I simply don't know which folder contains the personal info stuff, I don't wan to delete the android stuff. Although there is one file called android.
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Why don't you just start from scratch... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843221
Honestly I don't have time to start from scratch and i don't understand any of this mess. I work 2 jobs and hacking or modding is not my forte. You want me to rebuild a motor and I can do it blind folded but this is your world and not mine and I'm experienced enough to know that.
You bought a phone that is modded and you call it a piece of crap. Do a hard reset and use the stock ROM if you don't want to mod it.
If you bought a computer that had the wrong OS would you call it a piece crap too? Don't blame the phone blame the mod that the person you bought it from.
NO mensa candidate with an obvious lack of reading comprehension. I'm upset with the situation of not being able to delete the guys info off the phone. Obviously I wanted it modded if I bought it modded and I've stated I wanted it modded. I'm not blaming anyone except you for adding your useless input into this thread.
Master of the Obvious
This is a problem I see often with people who want to do Technology savvy stuff without the disciplines and background in Technology whatever it is?
(At the very least make the Effort to know the Basics)
That is why Apple products exist for? I always hear Mac people insult Windows products! and its always for the same reason? "Severe Ignorance of Technology!"
That is why Grandmothers can use Macs!
"Distinctions without Differences is Master of the Obvious"
The only real advice I can give you is...
Stop Whining and "Man-Up" to the task at hand! Relax and use your brain for which it was intended for? "Reasoning" you are very fortunate to have found XDA, but "most" of the people here are for the advancement and self-Teaching of Technology! You are not going to find more Intelligent Tech Savvy people than on XDA!
Now for the Master of the Obvious things?
make sure that you have described the problem with enough detail for someone to help you! and hopefully you previously have taken the time and effort to do a "Search" on your problem! but if you are like many I see here and want everyone to hold your hand for something you are too slothy to do yourself? Then hope that someone here is Altruistic enough to help you? Remember you have spent more energy whining about the problem than....
Back up everything using either MS MyPhone or SPB Backup?
and then you can reinstall the HD2 with what you want on it?
Good Luck
Sent using my HD2
Wow hd2shadow, thank you so much for your useless input as well as the anonymous insults. Its really easy to make fun of someone or put them down when they're not in front of you. I'd probably do the same thing if I were you so no worries. I don't know you anymore than you know my but you seem like a real *****.
I am not a Mac fan boy nor am I putting anything down. I'm using a Mac because I'm in the middle of a move and do not have access to my Windows operated desktop. I build half a million dollar race cars for a living. I highly doubt I'm severely ignorant of technology as you put it.
Compute that while you rail your Steve Jobs blow up doll with a hacked HD2 balls deep in your ass, best of luck.
$100 to anyone that will walk me through this, last two ******s excluded.
So are you talking about on android? If you can get it to sync to your mac just access the file on the SD card "android" then remove data.img give your phone a nice little reboot and you can set android back up per your settings with no previous data.
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NO mensa candidate with an obvious lack of reading comprehension. I'm upset with the situation of not being able to delete the guys info off the phone. Obviously I wanted it modded if I bought it modded and I've stated I wanted it modded. I'm not blaming anyone except you for adding your useless input into this thread.
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Ok, so let me try to understand then. You bought a phone that was modded with a ROM that wasn't made for you're phone, you don't have the time or desire how to get it to work and you don't want to hard reset the phone and start from scratch?
Yeah I must have been talking out my a**
odds are I fixed it.
FYI
how to get my damned computer running Window's Xp 03 to detect this HD2
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. use ActiveSync 4.5
already running Android but all the guys info, pic's and email is still locked into the phone
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delete account in email or reinstall Android do Search on that!
HD2 Boots up in Windows Mobile and you have to tell it to Run Android!
I have the access I need oddly enough via macbook.
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so use DoubleTwist? or other Mac Syncs use Search.
I just need to remember what folder I delete that removes the gmail adress
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Windows you just delete account! but you never were specific if Android?
Mainly because i tried deleting a file and upon restart
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Well that was just Stupid Deleting without know what you are doing!
J Newtons 2nd Law; Don't know enough to be Dangerous!
i don't understand any of this mess. I work 2 jobs and hacking or modding is not my forte
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That is very True, J Newtons 1st Law; When you don't know anything? Then Do Nothing! J Newtons 2nd Law; Don't know enough to be Dangerous!
NO mensa candidate with an obvious lack of reading comprehension. I'm not blaming anyone except you for adding your useless input into this thread.
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You Blame everyone but yourself for not knowing enough!
Wow hd2shadow, thank you so much for your useless input as well as the anonymous insults. Its really easy to make fun of someone or put them down when they're not in front of you.
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Actually it easier when they are in front of me! Its how I prefer it. And if you have not figured out why people here cant help you is because you don't give enough information to deduce what the problem is and how to fix it? I purposely put all that you posted because just maybe you might learn what the problem is here?
COMMUNICATION FAILURE! Advice #1 Don't Whine when posting!, #2 Don't Insult those who try to HELP YOU! #3 The Most important, Be Humble!
I build half a million dollar race cars for a living. I highly doubt I'm severely ignorant of technology as you put it.
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Don't care about cars you build? has nothing to do here with Tech.
and I know you doubt it but let me ask you, THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE NOT BEING UNDERSTOOD? Remember Its not up to us to try to figure out what you are trying to say? Its up to you to make yourself clear to everyone who is trying to help?
I don't know you anymore than you know my but you seem like a real *****.
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I only know what you write, just like you know me by what I write. and you don't know if I am a Gay Woman? and ***** is not very nice
$100 to anyone that will walk me through this, last two ******s excluded.
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You get more Flies with Honey than Vinegar! If you change your attitude you might? not have to pay? But if you READ what you posted below you might understand why they might not jump at that savory opportunity?
Lets Try Again but this time Leave out the unnecessary, and focus on details of the problem. I get tired of guys like you here! that why I unloaded on you! I have been with XDA along time but use different Login names when I see immaturity of actions because they have a tendency too vengeful boyish tactics.
The rest is here below;
Can anyone here please for the love of god tell me how to get my damned computer xxxxxxxxxxxx. I picked it up for my friend and it was already xxxxxxxxxxxxxx into the phone and no clear data doesn't work. I need to access the file that holds all of this and delete it. You can call or skype me and I'll be happy to pay someone to walk me through this. Its worth it to me not to waste anymore time or stress and get him outta my hair.
I'm in Myrtle Beach, xxxxxxxxxx and I can make out the files on the sd card I simply don't know which folder contains the personal info stuff, I don't wan to delete the android stuff. Although there is one file called android.
I haven't but I will, right now I have the access I need oddly enough via macbook first try I just need to remember xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and all the info. I'm copying them all over to my desktop and I guess I'll just delete them one by one.
I will gladly pay someone 50 dollars to fix this garbage for me I'm sick of this phone and ready to wipe my butt with it. Mainly because xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx now it won't detect there is an sd card which there is. I don't get how easy this is for you guys.
NO mensa candidate with an obvious lack of reading comprehension. I'm upset with the situation of not being able to delete the guys info off the phone. Obviously I wanted it modded if I bought it modded and I've stated I wanted it modded. I'm not blaming anyone except you for adding your useless input into this thread.
Honestly I don't have time to start from scratch and i don't understand any of this mess. I work 2 jobs and hacking or modding is not my forte. You want me to rebuild a motor and I can do it blind folded but this is your world and not mine and I'm experienced enough to know that.
Wow hd2shadow, thank you so much for your useless input as well as the anonymous insults. Its really easy to make fun of someone or put them down when they're not in front of you. I'd probably do the same thing if I were you so no worries. I don't know you anymore than you know my but you seem like a real *****.
$100 to anyone that will walk me through this, last two ******s excluded.
Ok I am bored now....
Thank You to CyanPrinter for helping me getting this issue resolved. Also thank you z33dev33l your simple idea would have solved the issue as well. I unfortunately stopped reading before you posted it due to the two **** sticks that needed to turn the thread into an "Internet Pissing Contest". I appreciate the help from either of you. Thank god there are tech savy people our there that aren't complete douche bags every chance they get to people that are not.
Fyi. hd2shadow I find it hilarious that you had to run your **** sucker like you did yet you had not clue with your infinite experience how to fix the issue. Yet the people that took know issue with me did in less than one sentence. Maybe your just a pretender who's obviously got a self worth complex. Either way keep lurking and being confrontational to people for no reason on the internet. We all know what would happen if you ran your mouth like this face to face with someone. Which is exactly why you do it here.
hello im thinking of getting an hd2 today but im not sure what all needs to be done before i can flash windows 7 i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction. i have look on xda but im not 100% sure where to start. what all you have to do with the hd2 because i have changed roms a bunch on my nexus one. yet it seems like the hd2 is a lot different then how i do it on my nexus. so if there is a good guide that kinda shows what all you need and how to do it that would be awesome. thank you for your time.
The best tutorial for the flashing process imho can be found in the HD2 Android section - the steps are actually the same, except you will flash a WP7 NAND ROM instead of Android. Check it here.
To start, as you can read in above linked tutorial, you will have to install HSPL 2.08, which can be a little tricky in case your HD2 comes with SPL 3.03. For this case, you´ll find another tutorial, it´s not that hard.
Otherwise, no big issue, I guess.
I strongly recommend to flash a custom ROM, those include the "Chevron" jailbreak from scratch, biggest advantage is that there won´t be any re-locking issues. The original "Leo70 ROM" does not include the jailbreak.
However, if you want to use Live services, you will still need an activation code from MS. WP7 runs fine without those, but you´ll lack quite a few interesting options, I think.
Happy flashing!
This is a pretty good video guide........
thank you both for your quick responses. i will look at all the tuts you posted. i know i seen for one windows 7 thing that you needed hspl 3 so i wasnt sure on that.
this is a little of topic but is 225 for what there saying is a brand new only opened for photos, good for a hd2.
Sounds reasonable but I would be suspicious of the "only opened for photos" part..
If I was selling a brand new phone, Id much rather describe it as "Unopened" than "only opened for photos......
My hd2 is over a year old and very nearly in mint condition despite never being in a case so I'd imagine if someone had used one for 6 months in a case then it would be possible to pass it off as "brand new"........
Then again I'm a very suspicious guy......
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Sounds reasonable but I would be suspicious of the "only opened for photos" part..
If I was selling a brand new phone, Id much rather describe it as "Unopened" than "only opened for photos......
My hd2 is over a year old and very nearly in mint condition despite never being in a case so I'd imagine if someone had used one for 6 months in a case then it would be possible to pass it off as "brand new"........
Then again I'm a very suspicious guy......
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lol yea thats what i was kinda thinking. i know from talking to him he doesnt seem to know much about hd2's in general. now if it was brand new it would come with the 8gb sd card or did tmobile stop including that? when i go to look at it today im going to make sure the touch screen works well and that there is nothing wrong with the device and make sure it has everything it is suppose to come with out of the box.
If your getting to see it and test it then thats good.
The things I'd check are the earpiece, the usb port and the little slot for your fingernail to open the back cover, if its had use these will give the game away.
That said, if it works ok then it shouldnt really matter how much use its had.
You could always try and get some money off if he's tryed to dupe you though
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If your getting to see it and test it then thats good.
The things I'd check are the earpiece, the usb port and the little slot for your fingernail to open the back cover, if its had use these will give the game away.
That said, if it works ok then it shouldnt really matter how much use its had.
You could always try and get some money off if he's tryed to dupe you though
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that is very true. well i asked him if it had the sd card and he didnt even know where to find it if it did and i didnt know either since never owning one lol. but i just watched a video so i know where to find it.
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that is very true. well i asked him if it had the sd card and he didnt even know where to find it if it did and i didnt know either since never owning one lol. but i just watched a video so i know where to find it.
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I think they were 2gb cards that went out with the phone. Might have been 8gb with tmous though, not sure......
It's a wild, stupid question but if I brought a screen for the Sensation XL, the processor from a Galaxy S II and the body (modified to be big enough) from a galaxy nexus how much work would be needed in to making this super phone?
Rip the other components from other phones.
I know that software and components would be problematic to say the least, but could it be done? Is it POSSIBLE?
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GPU, correct power stuff, all that stuff. technically you could but it's a lot more than 3 words.
Possible: Yes.
Probable: NO.
Could be the new thing in phones! like in desktops.
It would be great though!
I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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I'm guessing you'd need to build your own drivers and kernels and all that goodstuff. I think it is possible but itd be way to much work.
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Android should have a universal kernel. That would be awesome.
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Well, let's start from the beginning:
You need a SOC. I doubt you can find a SOC by itself, so you would have to take it from another phone. Another option is getting a mainboard from a device, and you can find spare mainboards.
Next, you need to do some research on how the display is connected, what parts you're going to use, if their way of connecting is supported by your mainboard, etc.
Then, you have to find a way to write something to that SOC. If you don't have a mainboard that's programmed, you'll need to make the partitions manually, which means you will need a programmer (not as in someone who can write code, but a device which can write stuff to NAND chips using JTAG or something like that) to write a NAND to that SOC's MTD.
And what you have to write to that NAND? You'll need a bootloader, so you could stick with a SOC from a HTC and use the default HBOOT, or I would prefer a clean bootloader. You could check the source code of cLK for HD2, which is a really decent bootloader.
Next up, you have to get hardware working. In other words, building a kernel. Get the Linux kernel, find all the parts for all of the hardware, and actually get it up and running. And I can tell you, this is a hell of a job. Compiling a kernel from source is easy, but implementing all of your hardware in a kernel is pretty difficult. You will have to get a barebone up and running, make it dump a log to somewhere in the RAM or NAND, read that dump out, check what it's saying, and you know where to continue. This will cost a LOT of time.
Once your kernel is running and it can echo something to the screen (which is already hard by itself), you have to build an Android image from source, which is not hard at all, and extract that image to a partition on the NAND. And then, set up the rootfs path in your kernel correctly so it knows where you put that filesystem of Android.
And then, boot it up, hope that logcat can tell you something, perhaps Android will boot, but the chance is pretty small that it will the first time you try. And when you finally get into Android, you have to get all the hardware working there again.
And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
It's possible, but I suggest you start with replacing a display of an HD2 with a display from a Desire for example, try to get it working, continue replacing stuff, and you know if you're able to do this.
If you want it, you could get somewhere, but it will cost a lot of money (I think it'll cost about 600$), without knowing if it will do the trick.
Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
votinh said:
Are you seriously saying "Could I ...." or you meant "Can I ....?
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Meh'
It's just words, there not going to be important in this instance.
If I were building a rocket then yes, words are important.
But I'm asking is it POSSIBLE to build a phone.
Possible... the simple way, get a working motherboard of s2 or gnote, get its display spec and wiring dia, get the display u need.. get its spec and wiring dia. Cross refer the two disp. If it match in some way, get it fixed to the board, build/get a body for the thing. Done.
Nearly impossible.. if any thing is not matching , and u fit it, well u gonna get a burned disp /board. And since u r doing some R&D, u will have to spent a lot, may be as much as for getting 2-3 top rated phones.
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good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
DustByte said:
good luck!! tell use when u built ur phone!
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Just a question lol! I wouldn't because of all the work involved with software and legal sh*t.
Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
Bad-Wolf said:
Benjamin! I thought I fired you! (Long story on WFSDev, he threw a chair at me, I became a Dalek)
It's possible, but like the others said, it would take a lot of work. You'd need your own drivers, kernels (probably ask NHB) etc. but it's possible. Check out these links:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/build_system.html
http://www.android.com/developers/branding.html
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...custom-android-phone-well-at-least-in-germany
I remember some other links for manufacturers on the Android website, but I couldn't find them. Good Luck!
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Hehe lol, nice following me up there boss man!
Probable no :-\
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well..
if you really have money you could ask some manufacturer to make a phone that suits you..
i mean, if you really have money.. xD
I'll think the closest your going to get is if you're buying one of the arm development boards. You should get android up and running but you're pretty far away from any mobile device
Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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weldawadyathink said:
Some company like motorola should make a program and you choose the specs and they make it for you.
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This is awful because of the licensing, test and certification requirements. Phones are only cheap because of economies of scale which you lose there. It isn't like a desktop where you can swap pieces easily. It is more akin to an even more ****ed laptop.
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And then you have a working Android device, but I'm afraid you can't make this thing legal, as you need an IMEI, and as far as I know, extracting and messing with IMEI's (or ESN's as they're called in the USA I believe) is not allowed, so you do have to know something about all of that stuff to get a GSM radio up and running.
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Just to clarify, IMEI is for GSM and ESN is for CDMA, so we actually have both in the U.S.