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do you use a screenprotector?

Do you use a screenprotector on your trinity? I do, one from Brando, but I don't like it and am thinking about removing it...
Is anyones screen already damaged?

Is it possible to put it perfectly at all ?! I mean I must be in a totaly sterile envoirement with gloves and special suit and God knows how and what skill I must have to put it right
My Trinity is one day old but I will surely remove it in a couple of days, can't look at it with this ugly bubbles beneath

The first thing I do when I get any new device is get a screen protector for it, and it goes on before I ever start using the device. I've gone through a lot of PDA's over time and one thing I can say is that you get better at putting on the protectors and you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
The best way to put the protector on is to carefully peel just a bit of one edge and line it up at the top of the screen. Then use the included card to slide the rest down the screen, the paper backing will peel off as you do this and it helps to prevent bubbles and dust getting on the stick side of the film.

If you don't like bubbles, try a brand that is not adhesive. Most people don't like the type that slips under the case but I do. I've been using NuShield protectors for a couple of years on 4 different PDAs and they are great IMO. I don't use a case (store in pocket) and NuShields are very durable - easily lasting 6 mo.

I'm using a brando ultraclear for K-Jam in my p3600... it works perfect... I haven't any sort of bubbles because i put it the first day i got my new device.. so device under it was very clean and the result is PERFECT

shoey5 said:
...you get used to the odd bubble or piece of dust underneath. It's far better than what happens to your screen without a screen protector over time.
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Completely agree!

I'm using Covertec Screenprotector(for S100), and it works like hell!
The screenprotector is about 1-1,5 mm thick, so it's pretty thick compared to many other brands, but the advantage is that it's almost impossible to get airbubbles, and the screenprotector is 110% clear! So you won't even see it's there!
Comes in a pack with two protectors, one with UV-filter, and one which is ultra-clear...
Can highly recomend them... No need for a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy"

1.5mm thick?!?!?! That's thicker than a "anti-bubble-wiper-thingy". I have wetsuites that thick. You talking about a case or a screen protector?
LOL
No offense - just having fun. Some are actually quite thick in comparison.

Hehe! Well, ok; maybe it's a bit thinner... But it's about the thickness of a playing card, and just as stiff as one too...
And no, it's not a casing, or a wetsuit... Maybe a drysuit haha!

I use protector, but got 2 bubbles which I want to try to remove.
Can anyone tell me how to remove the protector without using anything thin and sharp?
Asbjørn

Tape. Take a 1-2 inch long piece of tape and press one end on a corner of the protector. Then pull

I can't get my screenprotector removed...not even with tape

Hate screen protectors. Don't use them. My nephew has a Jam which is years old and hasn't had a protector. NO screen scratches -- only a little dullness where the SIP keyboard is but that buffs out in seconds once a year using Displex. No scratches from keys even though it's subject to some abuse and the casing is scratched and dented. Thus I myself have no crap on my P3600's screen.

Im not a fan of cases or screen protectors, but I got 1 for my p3600. Its pretty good, I just wish it was about 2mm wider, since the left edge doesnt quite go till the very end of the screen which is annoying.

I got my screen protector from 'Javoedge.com' , it cost me about £8.50 but it is worth every penny.
It is cut to the exact size of the Trinity screen and fits really well. It is so thin that it slides beneath the White plastic case of my Trinity and the screen itself, so there are no edges of the screen protector to be seen.
I agree that you must take your time when installing it to try and get the edges straight, but when it's on it fits and looks great.
I opted for the super clear version and not the anti-glare version.
Great product!

Invisible shield from ShieldZone.com
I'm using an "Invisible Shield" from ShieldZone.com for my P3600. At the time I got mine, it didn't exist any pre-cut version for the P3600, so I ended up with a pre-cut TyTN shield, since they have the same screen size.
The first 2-3 days the result wasn't that good as I had some bubbles under the shield, but they disappeared after some days.
Watch the demo videos on ShieldZone.com, and I guess you will be as impressed as I'm with this shield.
-Bjørn

Hi people.
I am soon gonna be a happy owner of a Trinity and i will definately buy a screen protector for my device. Can you please give me your opinion on different brands you have tried?What brand would you recommend buying?
Thanks

I have a Brando one that they now market as a P3600 version.
It sticks to the screen with static so no glue or residue if you remove it. Also this means it is washable too. The static provides more than enough force to keep it on the screen. In fact it is stuck fast. Only by pulling a piece of tape stuck to it by both ends will remove it.
My only problem is more with screenprotectors in general. Since they add extra thickness to the screen they do affect the sensitivity of the touchscreen. So for a while you will write with the stylus and you wont be using enough force. You get used to it, but it would still be nicer to find a thinner membrane.

Mine is a Clear Touch Crystal from Boxwave. I've used Boxwave's products for years and found them to have very high durability and quality. The screen looks like it has nothing on it at all when the device is on. I find that it actually seems to improve touchscreen accuracy and feel.
The only problem I have had with screen protectors in general is that if they are cut too close to the borders of the screen, that is, if they fit too well, they seem to interfere with the screen's ability to detect taps. I think it is interfering with the digitizer. Every time I have installed a protector PERFECTLY leaving no gaps on any side, the screen stops responding until I remove the protector and reinstall it with the edges trimmed in about 1 mm on all sides. I don't think that you need to have all edges trimmed, but I do it for uniformity's sake.
Hope this helps someone who gets a protector and then thinks they broke their device by installing it like I did my first time.......ahhh to be young again.....

@olsenbjo
Does the Invisible Sheild cover the entire device, or just the screen?
Thanks!

How to remove scratches from your Trinity screen

(Not sure if there has been a post about this, apologies if there has.)
Just wanted to let everyone know that I had a fairly big scratched area, right where I write the letters for the Letter Recogniser SIP which was very annoying as it prevented the stylus from gliding smoothly. I heard that I should use Brasso (~£1.30 from your local supermarket) on the screen and it has been VERY successful. It's completely removed the scratch.
Just apply a small amount with a cotton-bud and work into the screen in circlular motion (press harder for deeper scratches). Keep doing this for about 10-15 times or until the scratch disappears.
Hope this helps anyone with screen scratches or anyone wondering about using Brasso but too scared to try.

Careful
I wouldn't recommend it as too much brasso will affect the screen, It's not just an abbrasive but solvent too so you will melt the plastic screen. Over-use will make the screen look warped.
I tried this on my M500 ages ago; now if HTC have improved on the screen then hey.. go ahead but don't say I didn't warn you.

Screen protectors are a much better option. If the screen is already marked a protector would give you a smooth finish again. If thats to expensive an option clear contact sheet will also offer the same results and a roll of that will give you screen covers for the rest of your natural life.

it would not "melt" the screen - how misguided. it is a mild solvent and abrasive and so is unlikely to cause much harm to the screen unless used constantly. screen protectors look awful on a screen - especially when the device is off.

http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/2007100487/my-laptop-screen-is-scratched.html

Off topic a bit. I bought an expensive screen protector from Brando.. it works very well.. but.. for some reason it (the screen protector) got scratched. any easy way to solve it? Brasso is ok? I thought if there can be any method of using .. say car wax to fill in the grooves of the scratch.
I think it got scratched when stuff like sand got attached to my face and when I list to the phone, it stick onto the scren pctr.. and when I write on it.. it got scratched.

Just be happy you had the screen protector on!

I tried to take out the scratches from the plastic cover on my Casio watch with (Crest) toothpaste and it worked FANTASTIC!!!
Thanks a lot to the Guy who suggested this solution for PDA screens.

Damage to screen with brasso
rich1986 said:
it would not "melt" the screen - how misguided. it is a mild solvent and abrasive and so is unlikely to cause much harm to the screen unless used constantly. screen protectors look awful on a screen - especially when the device is off.
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OK it doesn't melt the screen off but it gives it a warped look if you reflect light off it.

No tricks can help
Do not fool yourself. Brasso, toothpaste, Displex all leave marks on the screen. Check it with the device off in sunlight or a strong light source.
Brando protector is expensive.
Cheap and perfect is a new digitizer (USD 8).
I just ordered two more. And whenever I get a scratch and I have time I replace it.

hmmm... Brando's protector is selling for 9-10 dollars - you can easily find cheaper alternatives.
I guess the time and hassles (and of course the warranty alone) of replacing the actual digitizer don't really worth the few bucks saved.

Screen Protector - A Must?

How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?

I haven't ever used one, I find they make the screen less responsive. I do have a few scratches on my screen though but they are invisible when the screen is backlit...

GoldCoin said:
How many of you are using a screen protector?
I just can't install this damn thing without making bubbles between the screen
and the screen protector.
Tried putting invisible shield today which covers the entire device. it came with
some spray to avoid dust but i'm still not happy with it. on the back it's ok, but
the front shield was so ugly and unclear that made me to remove it and now
i'm with no front protector at all.
The screen is more clear now but i'm afraid to scratch it.
Does anyone know how to install the screen protector in a way which it will be
totally unnoticeable?
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Your screen protector is a must as scratches can appear on your screen very easily without it.
As for the bubbles I've managed to get mine on with only a couple of bubbles around the speaker & 3G camera. Doesn't bother me to much any more
Try this thread as it has a number of recommendations on which is the best screen protector to use

Yes, the screen protector is a must!
Especially for a device with such a huge display. I have read here about cracked displays and I am sure that screen protectors give added resistance against cracking (besides their primary function against scratches).
It takes PATIENCE to apply one though. I wasted 2 before i managed to put one flawlessly (well almost)
Some of the protectors can be washed and re-applied.

Do you really think it has some impact on the way the screen respond ? Does the screen protector makes the bends more noticeable when you press on the center of the screen ?

I've used my Universal for over 3 years with no scrren protector, and there is a mark in the top right where the X icon is but no other issues. However the Universal is a clam shell design so the scrren is protected when it's in my pocket. I don't think I'd want to use the HD without one.
I couldn't fit the screen protector that came with the HD properly because it has to be done with microscopic precision. However I bought 6 protecoter for £3 on Ebay from Ecell and am very happy. They're much easier to fit because they're a fraction smaller, plus you can use a couple to practice with and still have spares left over.

I use the protector from day one and I can't imagine not using it. It's just too much of a risk, and by watching my used protectors, how they're covered with scratches, some of them quite big and quite deep. I would not want to have this permanently on my screen.
I have bought some additional protectors as well. I predict I will be changing protectors every 3 or 4 months.
I have no idea why everyone seems to have so much problems with applying them. It was very easy for me to apply both the stock protector and the Brando protector. Just clean the front screen as thoroughly as possible with a piece of cloth that does not leave those small fabric hairs. I used a cleaning cloth for glasses, and put a few drops of window cleaning fluid as well to remove eventual grease.
After that it was piece of cake. Started at the top and just rolled down the protector in one smooth move. Had 1 bubble, which I simply pushed to the edge of protector until it was gone.
I reccomend you do all of this in a dust-free environment. Bathroom is a good place, for example. Let the dust settle for like 20 minutes before going in. Avoid rooms which have carpets and such stuff.

I used mine for the first month+ without the screen protector and sustained no scratches. I have one on now simply because one day I was putting stuff away, saw the screen protector, put it to my HD and it went on perfectly without trying, so I decided to keep it on.

GoldCoin said:
How.....unnoticeable?
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GoldCoin,
Have you tried buying on from a phone shop and asking them to install?
I installed mine as soon as I removed the "do not sit down with the HD in your pocket warning" Best way to ensure that the screen is clean. Took a couple of attemps to get it started but a little effort and I got it. Left with a small bubble round the ear piece and one top right, but that looks like a slight defect in the protector as the alignment looks almost perfect.
When installing, I peeled back a portion of the protector and aligned it best I could - incidentally, I placed the HD back in the foam that it came in to hold it firm. Without peeling any more off I try to gauge the alignment. If I think is good to go, I slowly peel the backing whilst rubbing my finger back and forth across the area just stuck down.
Here's another suggestion. PSP Screen Protector installation
Good Luck,

Yes, it's a must!
I use a screenprotector and it has lot's of scratches on it, which otherwise would be on the screen itself

Absolutely!
I Use clear-coat and are very satisfied (had it on my diamond as well and have it on my psp)
Once you get a mark on the display u will regret going without.

Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.

Bubbles are not problem. After installing screen protector just take you credit card. You can remove all bubbles with credit card.

Just adding my two pennies worth. I haven't ever used a screen protector on any of my previous phones. However Touch HD is a little bit special (as we know) so I invested. The one that came with was utter....well it was naff. I bought an invisible shield but some areas didn't dry and adhese correctly....so I opted for Exim...now this was awesome....a few attempts later and I have it installed with no bubbles at all using a credit card to apply.
(Top Tip: use selotape to remove any unwanted dirt from the screen before installing....the static tends to draw dust to it straight out of the packet....helped me anyway!)

GoldCoin said:
Thank you all for sharing your opinions. already ordered a Brando protector + 3 extra just in case i will mess things up again.
Following Rozenthal advice i think i'll apply it in the bathroom this time and not in my dusty workroom.
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For what it's worth, it wouldn't hurt to use a can of dust remover or compressed air to spray the area before applying. Worked for me. Just a thought.

Does the normal screen protector that comes in the box makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? in the center specifically ? and makes you need to press harder when u tap ?

Invisible shield on mine and wouldn't be without a screen protector on any of my devices with my way of using them and pocketing them they tend to get scratched but loving the invisible shield. Should be installed at the factory imo

Jezwick said:
... I find they make the screen less responsive....
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I've always used one, XDA mini, Kaiser and now the THD.
In all cases I've found the sensitivity is affected but to varying degrees.
In each case I've used tweaking tools to change the sensitivity back to acceptable levels.

But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?

Xeon said:
But im only concerned to know. Does makes the screen feels like bending when u press on it ? I already know that all resistive screens do what i am talking about but does it increase when using a protector ?
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I haven't experienced this with the Exim protector I am using. In fact...it's as though there is nothing there....even when swiping!

how to fix scratch on touch screen?

Hi,
Recently, unfortunately I got a pretty bad scratch in the middle of my screen, and not only is it ugly and annoying, though it ruins the usability of the interface. Is there a way to buff it out or otherwise fix it?
Thanks

i doubt so... in this instance, really prevention is better than cure...

Try a screen protector,
it have some sort of silicon surface which sticks to your screen, this might fill the gap of the scratch so it will not be much visible.
on My old SE P910, i had the same situation. solved it using a good quality screen protector.
good luck, and always use screen protectors

Try this program HERE
Come oon, go repair it

joshjdevl said:
Hi,
Recently, unfortunately I got a pretty bad scratch in the middle of my screen, and not only is it ugly and annoying, though it ruins the usability of the interface. Is there a way to buff it out or otherwise fix it?
Thanks
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If the scratch is really that bad and a protector will not suffice, why not go out and buy new cover including screen? Of course use protector on new screen!!
Do a search in Blackstone accessories

I had a scratch tooon the screen. Not too bad but noticable. The sticky-stuff on the screenprotector filled it right up! No more scratch (well, the screenprotector is now full of scratches ).

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I had a scratch tooon the screen. Not too bad but noticable. The sticky-stuff on the screenprotector filled it right up! No more scratch (well, the screenprotector is now full of scratches ).
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Might I ask what brand of screen protector is that?

I have a pretty good scratch on mine as well. Scratch resistant glass my butt. I hear there is a layer of teflon or something on top of the glass is it possible to peel that away??? Guess I will try a new screen protector or a new screen if need be! grrrrr.
Edit: Sorry meant to post this in TMOUS HD2 board!

Ya, it's a problem, the HD and diamond 1 have the most insensitive screens I've ever used, using a screen protector makes it worse, plus they look pretty ugly if you can't get rid of all the bubbles/start peeling and getting dirt under them.
I'm resigned to the fact of replacing the cover/screen eventually, it's a lot more enjoyable to use without screen protectors, mine has a few scratches in it, but it still looks and responds better than with a protector

Go to Radioshake, ask for scratch remover (viscous liquid), fill the scratch with th eliquid then use a good quality LCD protector.

I still have the original htc touch hd screen protector on my device. I'm sattisfied with it but film begins moving away from the screen in one corner. My question is : can I use the film once again after cleaning it with a alcohol or something else? Sorry for my english

Toothpaste
I highly recommend you to apply some toothpaste on screen ..it will be worth it ..make sure it won't go inside your device ..coat it for 2 minutes then gently remove it by paper towel or u can use tissue paper etc..and VOILAAAAA ..do it twice if there are some left ..

stopa46 said:
I still have the original htc touch hd screen protector on my device. I'm sattisfied with it but film begins moving away from the screen in one corner. My question is : can I use the film once again after cleaning it with a alcohol or something else? Sorry for my english
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NEVER use alcohol or any alcohol-based product to clean plastic. It will dissolve the plastic film and make it useless. Worse still, if it gets behind the plastic film, it will attach the LCD screen, and you will get a permanent mark on the LCD

Leo anti-scratch screen

Does anyone know if the the leo has an anti-scratch screen (like the HTC Hero, iphone do)?
or should we still use a screen protector like for the current blackstone?
It seems not...according to this unboxing video (no screen protector in the box)
www.solopalmari.com/news/windows-mobile/7547-htc-hd2-unboxing-esclusiva
Might be because it doesn't need one, what do you think?

I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...

It's likely that the HD2 has a glas display. Maybe that's already enough scratch resistant

Isobuster_1962 said:
I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...
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I don't think it's a prerelease I did see the "htc pro three" on the back of the device on this video
http://ai.rs/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/htc_leo_08.jpg

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I don't think it's a prerelease I did see the "htc pro three" on the back of the device on this video
http://ai.rs/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/htc_leo_08.jpg
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Don't know where you saw that. In the video you can clearly see that there is NOT that prototype print, but instead the little one on the bottom of the battery cover (probably saying "with HTC Sense"). Look at the video beginning when they take out the device, and at 2:43 when they take off the plastic cover from the back =)
There you go:
http://img194.imageshack.us/i/leoback.tif/

...it's a glass display, therefore if you're going to scratch it with a key or whatever, then it will be scratched also with a tiny plastic film on it...
...moreover, as a capacitive screen, it would avoid proper finger contact.
...once again, it would decrease the brightness.

it wouldn't impact the finger contact too much. capacitive screens 'project' a field above the glass (which is why they are used in industrial apps where you can have a touchscreen monitor with inch thick glass on it)
and in some cases the screen protector can cut down on glare and help the screen's viewability in strong daylight

Isobuster_1962 said:
I think it is an prerelease Version. Let us see, what will be in there...
When you go here you can read that there should be an pocket in the box...
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I also agree with Iso because wen guys you see HTC sell this kind of High end device in that kind of very simple box no HTC logo with this device with a huge demand and also no user manual,no software CD,ect.just think this is the first windows phone with capacitive screen,using HTC sense and 1 GHZ.

Just got the phone, and the screen is a finger print magnet, when fingers are a little moist, it's difficult to move around the screen, AND I was beginning to get hairline scratches-I panicked to the T-Mobile store and purchased (16 bucks) 2 screen protectors and boy what a difference. The protector has a bit of a matte finish, gives the screen a bit of a grainy look to it. But in no way affect the screen sensitivity. In fact, it makes it easier to glide accross the screen, no finger smudges, and best of all-no worries about scratching the screen!

telegraph0000 said:
Just got the phone, and the screen is a finger print magnet, when fingers are a little moist, it's difficult to move around the screen, AND I was beginning to get hairline scratches-I panicked to the T-Mobile store and purchased (16 bucks) 2 screen protectors and boy what a difference. The protector has a bit of a matte finish, gives the screen a bit of a grainy look to it. But in no way affect the screen sensitivity. In fact, it makes it easier to glide accross the screen, no finger smudges, and best of all-no worries about scratching the screen!
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I just carry mine in the leather pouch it came with.
You get used to removing it after a week..

I don't have a screen protector on mine, just the silicone case it came with. Been putting it in my pocket for 2 months now, no scratch, still mint condition.

No Problem with mines
I have a silicone case on it and no screen protector. I purchased the phone the first day it came out and the guy who was ringing me up told me that the screen is made to be scratch resistant. That's why mines never got scratched along with the guy above me. I still was like should I buy a screen protector to be safe? He said, when he orders his, he's not putting one on. SO I was like okay. lol and it's still all fine and well.

I've got a cheapo screen protector from HK (good ol' fleabay) as it cuts out reflections a lot.