*Concept* Omnia like interface *Need suggestions* - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hi all,
After I seen the Omnia interface, I decided to try making one that is similar or maybe better functionality. Currently, itz just a basic concept which I hope to develop more.
*Note* This is not a release version and hence it is not fully functional yet. I am just seeking ideas and opinions at this present moment.
Thanks!

wow!! can't wait for this!

Is their a link to see what the Omnia Interface is like since I have never heard of it and have no idea what it is for.

its the Samsung interface..great thinking..if u need any help i have some knowledge in C#
Edit : see here : http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?p=74631

EDIT: wrong thread, sorry, but NICE Icons,

this looks very promising

bluemetalaxe said:
mmh, a lot of colors, not better than the things on ifonz, pointui, mobileshell, touchflo3d.......
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So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.

Leechoonhwee said:
So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.
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text, mail, missed calls, call history, calender, task, alarms, comm manager, phone profile (ring, vibrate) & link to program launcher
That is what i usually use

Looks like something you could make in WAD very easily.

bigray327 said:
Looks like something you could make in WAD very easily.
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Yes but i was looking at developing it native so it keeps the memory small.

Nice concept
looks nice, definitely something I'll be keeping a watch on.

Looks cool! I can't wait for the final result!

can't wait for samsung omnia to come out its own interface!
rem to put in appt schedule in too...will follow this forum tightly...

Leechoonhwee said:
So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.
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Fantastic idea, I was planning to start a thread like this.
In addition to the other feedback, don't forget some of the other functions of the HTC home, such as - weather and media player status.
Is your plan to imitate the TouchWiz II interface with the drag and drop icons, this would be an incredible addition to the current HTC offerings. Also, any plans for VGA for Universal and Athena owners?
Best of luck

Sound like a great idea!, keep working....thanks

A settings button would be very very useful.. I find it hard myself to get to settings without a sylus in a short amount of time.
A Quick SMS button would be a wonderful feature also.

icons
Hi there, would be great to see stuff like this. I aprreciate to test this one
In my opinion the icons of the samsung themes are too coloured. I would prefer to habve more "simpler" icons. - as these attached.
in case you want to get somethig like this let me know in case you want somebody to do some icons for u

ather90 said:
its the Samsung interface..great thinking..if u need any help i have some knowledge in C#
Edit : see here : http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?p=74631
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OMG the background music is nice!!!
anyone know what music is that

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This is what you can do with WAD

A fine example of playing with WAD.
Landscape or Portrait mode.
at last, it is not iphone ****...
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this is what i can do with wad..
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Great.......
Hi
Just wanted to put something else on the thread, bcuz we can do so much with the program but only a select few have the right answers.
I think you shoulden`t be messin with another phone`s UI, just use your own to make that result.
I dont like PPC`s that use too much sliding UI.
like it says Pocket PC, so lets just make it work precisely like a pc that`s more fun.
Ironic considering your sample is a Mac OS wannabe LOL.
To each his/her own. I personally don't think it's a good idea to dictate what people should or shouldnt do with their phones, time, or themes.
jomo25 said:
To each his/her own. I personally don't think it's a good idea to dictate what people should or shouldnt do with their phones, time, or themes.
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Exactly...
...so where are the tutorials/threads on WAD? I have searched before and there aren't many. I'm curious and want to try it out.
There's a whole forum at the WAD website http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum. Probably your best bet for ideas, samples, and support.
WAD2 is going to be even better!
The new version of WAD is almost complete and for people who want to customize their own devices - not just install a cab and have it be done (like SPB Mobile Shell) - WAD2 is by far the best option. It has about anything you can think of (at least I can): Multiple pages, with multiple plug-ins, show or hide task bar or bottom bar, notifications, registry displays, WMP display, weather support, animation, gestures..... try it! It is still a little buggy and I highly recommend you find the graphics or plug ins you like and create your own skin. That is the one drawback to WAD / 2 is it is very device specific, so loading someone else's skin usually does not work (different apps in diff locations, etc).
Here is my screen today. I tend to change it almost every day!
jomo25 said:
There's a whole forum at the WAD website http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum. Probably your best bet for ideas, samples, and support.
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Thank you!...
I've used a trial WAD. Missed gestures, transitions, several bugs (Mio A701) and sometimes bad reloads (specially after empty battery softreset). The more you add the more it slows everything. Some object like meters (signal, battery, sms counter) even with a low refresh time still take a lot of memory.
It's beautiful for icons. But IMHO i prefer a complete UI (like PointUI, which has a french-style, gestures, menus,...)
2manyphones said:
The new version of WAD is almost complete and for people who want to customize their own devices - not just install a cab and have it be done (like SPB Mobile Shell) - WAD2 is by far the best option. It has about anything you can think of (at least I can): Multiple pages, with multiple plug-ins, show or hide task bar or bottom bar, notifications, registry displays, WMP display, weather support, animation, gestures..... try it! It is still a little buggy and I highly recommend you find the graphics or plug ins you like and create your own skin. That is the one drawback to WAD / 2 is it is very device specific, so loading someone else's skin usually does not work (different apps in diff locations, etc).
Here is my screen today. I tend to change it almost every day!
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if you could share your theme.... thanks!
WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
kramerica2 said:
WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
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WAD2 has improved a lot...
alfibus said:
I've used a trial WAD. Missed gestures, transitions,
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lol, talk about missing gestures and transitions. Just tried to gesture the Firefox on my Windows box to flip to second page of this thread...
Is that UL addiction yet?
Wad is not slow
To take a hit at WAD`s speed, is a loose shot.
The speed depends on a whole lot of factors. Depending on youre device and its specs.
For my Touch its quick and I never have to wait for something its fast and runs good. I can do everything with it.
SOmeone called me Ironic for putting a mac screen on my ppc.
I was not ironic because I made it look like the pc`s interface not like another phone`s interface. What I think is that, wad is doing is giving people the possibility to make their own phone.
All these commercials on tv with phone this phone that and most of them dont work are not that great.
What programs like WAD offer is, a phone (with a brand that you buy) and once youre home you can forget all about the brand and make your own device.
I LOVE THE PROGRAM RESPECT TO THE MAKERS TILL WM7 IM STICKING TO IT
kramerica2 said:
WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
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mhmm, sure.
WAD2 has improved a lot...
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they won't understand, they have iphone and diamond ****, it is waste of time saying such things...
nothin said:
diamond ****
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Those 2 words don't quite go together

[Request] S2S Maybe?

Greetings,
I am issuing this request (maybe to A_C) for a program code named Slide 2 Switch. It is essentially an AltTab program where it prioriztizes the programs youuse. So if you open File Explorer and then settings it gives file explorer 2 and settings 1. So if you slide your finger from left to right it shows priority 1. If you slide your finger from right to left it shows lowest priority. is it possible to build somehting this simple? I am not that good at coding but making some animation would make it cool to. Thanks.
since we are requesting for A_C great S2x programs, i would like a S2R, a reading threaded sms program =) i use sms-chat now but its slow to start =/
S2C contacts would be nice too
actually, if all my programs were S2x i would like even more my phone =D
evinh0 said:
since we are requesting for A_C great S2x programs, i would like a S2R, a reading threaded sms program =) i use sms-chat now but its slow to start =/
S2C contacts would be nice too
actually, if all my programs were S2x i would like even more my phone =D
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why not buy an iPhone ? No, just a joke, I really love A_Cs apps too. But think further: If everything looks like Apple / iPhone, whats the use of it ? Although it might be skinable it is just a copy of what Apple has achieved. In fact, there are lots of apps with lots of potential - but most coders don´t care any about usability or interface design. A_Cs apps are, amongst others, popular because of the UI. But please, just take a look at apps like PointUI: simply genius UI, and it does NOT look like iPhone !
regards,
Martin
Wow! This is literally like the 5th thread I've seen in the last month with "S2*" requests.
PM A_C!!!
Agreed, theres no need to make a thread for requesting stuff. Just Private message the guy!

mPhone Panel

Finished my mPhone Panel today.
The idea was to make some sort of iPhone clone, but with in mind that it should be exactly how I would want to see a panel. So here's what I came up with. mPhone v1.3:
The mPhone (my name starts with a M and the (Warhol) banana is of course a spoof of the Apple icon ) features all the programs I use the most and I guess that goes for a lot of other Xperia users. The words below are in Dutch, but I can change that if there is enough enthousiasm to use this panel. I can also change some things if you guys give me some suggestions.
What doesn't work yet with mPhone Panel?
Well, for starters the panel can only be viewed in Portrait mode. If you go Landscape mode half of the icons will be gone.
Also, some shortcuts don't work yet. Perhaps someone can help me with that.
I need the pseudo-handlers to G-Alarm, moBlog and iContact (on the memorycard) and MSN chat, Notes and calculator (on the phone).
I'm curious what you think of it. When I fix the shortcus/pseudo-handlers I'll upload the .cab file here.
That looks good! nice one, good luck with the fixes
Wow a new panel for X1. I'll give it a try when it's done. When can you upload it?
I've never really been a fan of the iPhone main screen but this is the best pseudo clone I've seen yet. I'd be interested in trying it out for sure.
looks awsome gonna try that one for sure.
and its dutch awesome
Great looking panel..
Maybe I have given up on panels a little too early
nice work there...
Will you post it here when it is done? Looks good
looks great
Thanks for the kind words. Makes me even more driven to fix all the errors.
When I'll place the .cab file here, I'll leave out some typical Dutch icons, like the NOS (Dutch news provider) and the 'Uitzending Gemist' app (for Dutch TV programs).
You can always add your own icons once installed. The map is located at \Program Files\Panels\mPhone.
For now I'll keep building and finetuning. Please keep suggestions and ideas coming. I can add those to the panel.
it looks amazing
i cant wait
well done
why not posting an international and a dutch version? There are many dutchies here who like to have NOS and Uitzending gemist!
Keep up the good work. Goed bezig!
Why are all so want? What's good for the similarity with the iPhone?
Where is the individuality?
i agree with yellowjaap since i too am from the netherlands! Those icons could come in really handy
sshick said:
Why are all so want? What's good for the similarity with the iPhone?
Where is the individuality?
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the individuality is having the xperia.
having this panel just lets iphone users know that our phone can do the same things as your phone(besides all the apps) and more.
nice work man!
keep it up...
dawongster said:
the individuality is having the xperia.
having this panel just lets iphone users know that our phone can do the same things as your phone(besides all the apps) and more.
nice work man!
keep it up...
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Yes, maybe
I think having the choose makes the individuality. We as Xperia users can decide what kind of control we have. One day its iPhone, the next SPB, then touchflow or just the standard SE panels.
And best of all, we can make all iPhone users jealouse because we can do the same as them, and so much more haha!
BTW, Have you looked into iFonz while making your work? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369241
Can we add our own programs?
Hi there,
looks nice!
and I agree that a dutch version is very welcome!
nyan187 said:
i agree with yellowjaap since i too am from the netherlands! Those icons could come in really handy
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Please post the mphone panel

[THE][16-7-09][v1.0] Apple style TF3D

Here's something for those who are perhaps coming over from the iPhone. You'll probably be more at ease with your device!
By the way, for the record, I just made this for fun, thinking that there are people who actually appreciates this sort of theme. I use my other theme more regularly. Please don't flame me with Apple-fanboy comments!
Note: This cab does not include the taskbar, and 1% battery driver. You may find them at the links provided. Credit to Chainfire, InsecureSpike
Instructions:
1. Install cab
2. At the soft-reset prompt, tap cancel.
3. Disable and re-enable TF3D to see the changes.
If don't like it, just uninstall. Disable and re-enable TF3D. Back to normal.
Meh, You make great stuff dude..
I use your V1.4 TF3D.. btw I'm curious about something..
Shouldn't the "Mail" and "Messages" icon be replaced with one another ?
Seems like the (a) is more suited for E-mail.. xD
Ha! I like your V1.4 TF3D more..... iphone icons?? Don't think so.... that is the reason why I bought my TP2... and not putting iphone stuff on my TP2.
Btw... Awesome work!!!
Yuuvi said:
...Shouldn't the "Mail" and "Messages" icon be replaced with one another ?
Seems like the (a) is more suited for E-mail.. xD
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Well, I'll say this. I'm not a huge fan of the Messages icon I chose to use. I just haven't been able to find one that feels like "the one". Anyway, have a look at the other thread. I've made a poll to see what everyone thinks...
radiowc said:
..... iphone icons?? Don't think so.... that is the reason why I bought my TP2... and not putting iphone stuff on my TP2.
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That's exactly how I feel too!
Still trying myself to get this theme thing down, Still getting all kinds of white blotches on my screen which is pissing me off but good work on the apple theme although I do hate apple still looks nice.
Wow, no love for this theme...
The download count must have set some sort of record low for most unpopular theme or something.
Don't things too hard! I love parts of your other theme, elements of that I am using on my own theme for the communications and settings tab.
Since this thread is a bit quieter, could you answer a couple of questions?
I've been using Manila Editor v.0.2 to build my theme, which is a bit trial and error since most of the manilla files are listed as unknown (eg, the program doesn't know what icon they represent) but does give you a preview of the file and allows you to change it. What do you use?
What is the correct protocol for posting a theme containing elements from others work? EG my theme would have your communications, settings (and dammit, more fiddling, now the volume part of settings! But thanks for the effort.) Should I ask each person if it's ok for me to share, post but with credits and links to the original theme or what?
Thankyou for going the extra mile on your themes and customising parts that others haven't. It really makes a difference when the phone doesn't just go back to the standard look once you leave the main pages.
Hey Steve, thanks for the consolation, I feel much better...haha!
Now, regarding your queries...
I've used Manila Editor before...back in the days when I was first bought my Touch Diamond and people were just starting to figure out how to edit manila files. But I've always found it really difficult to use and (like you said?) a lot of the files are categorized as "unknown". All in all, this app is pretty outdated and I don't believe it's being developed anymore.
I use Chainfire's great tool, CFC-GUI. Try it out. It should be quite easy to figure out for you.
I don't know if there's even a protocol (per se) in place for creating themes containing parts of other user's themes. I suppose it's ok if all authors are happy with it. I'll be perfectly happy with you just linking back to my theme's thread.
very good,wo like it!!!

HTC Sense must support custom/homebrew widgets!!!

Imagine...
HTC Sense with your own widgets.
HTC sense already includes the following:
Home, SMS, Mail, Weather, Twitter, Footprints, Settings, and more.
But what if they would finally made it possible to let us make our own widgets?
This would seriously beat the crap our every other phone!
We would have:
Radio, ebay, MusicID, Newspapers, webcam view, translator and alot more.
Or a simple "Applications" Tab, where we find another bar with more tabs for putting apps into "folders"(tabs).
Its real sad htc have not made a SDK, or other kind of function to create our own tabs.
I personally think HTC sense is the best UI out there. the best i have seen on any mobile phone, but lacks the ability to customize it ourselfs.
Is it possible to hack the Sense UI to make this possible? (if someone can do this im happy to donate about 20 dollars, and i think more people are)
If not, we should make a large email, or online voting system to anyways draw the attention of HTC as a large company.
And yes, i know the other UI's available for windows mobile. But HTC sense is just....quietly brilliant
it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development
brandi said:
it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development
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Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.
borgqueenx said:
Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.
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Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.
johncmolyneux said:
Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.
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still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second
borgqueenx said:
still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second
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Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.
johncmolyneux said:
Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.
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so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.
borgqueenx said:
so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.
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Personally, I don't have any interest in this happening. Since I can have lots of apps running at the same time and flick between them with a couple of clicks, it's actually easier to do that than it would be to put everything on the Sense UI.
Also, the Start menu is always 1 simple button click away, and that has everything on the phone listed.
I just don't think that this is a big deal.
It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
And by the way, if you need a reason to switch to the HD2, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQHRtUtW0c&feature=player_embedded
That alone is enough of a reason to switch.
freyberry said:
It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
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well as i said i like the sense feel, theme and Gui the most of all things i have tried on all phones.
And im not talking about task switching here but improving htc sense by adding custom tabs.
i like the windows mobile default interface for task switching, but i will use HTC sense for launching a app, and watching the weather, twitter, newspapers, TV, and many stuff like that, if it was possible.
I found Max Manilla makes customizing the HTC sense possible a bit, but not completly. Il try contacting him but i think its gonna be hard to implent.
As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.
freyberry said:
As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.
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thanks you have any more?
I'l try to contact showac to learn how
Thanks again.
The TV tab is one I can think of, and it's under active development afaik: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534185
It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.
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And it doesnt fit with the design. Yes, i care about beauty and design.
Starting a program is definately not the same, as if the information you r lookin for was directly shown in a sense tab. Its not just the look but also the feeling, that it is somehow integrated in your home screen and you dont have to start a program for that (always hated the app-binded UI on iphone). But the major factor is, that sense-functionalities might be connected with each other (p.ex. calendar and home-tab, footprints and album), which has not been done too well yet .
In my opinion it would for example just be nice to have a newspaper-tab where you can slide through different newspapers (like the accounts in email-tab) with a little overview of whats inside today, tap to chose one and scroll through the articles, be notified if theres somethin you are interested in and so on...
But i also have to state, that i am already quite happy with sense as it is and that wishes like these might be too far away...
I hope many new tabs will be created in the future.
I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.
ahdai said:
I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.
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meh thats where i want to use the normal windows tak switcher for.
I´d like a tab with applications, that includes another bar with more tabs for categories.
Here's your solution... sort of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616415
That creates a Manila tab where you can add any standard Windows Mobile today screen plugins (like RSS readers etc.).

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