Imagine...
HTC Sense with your own widgets.
HTC sense already includes the following:
Home, SMS, Mail, Weather, Twitter, Footprints, Settings, and more.
But what if they would finally made it possible to let us make our own widgets?
This would seriously beat the crap our every other phone!
We would have:
Radio, ebay, MusicID, Newspapers, webcam view, translator and alot more.
Or a simple "Applications" Tab, where we find another bar with more tabs for putting apps into "folders"(tabs).
Its real sad htc have not made a SDK, or other kind of function to create our own tabs.
I personally think HTC sense is the best UI out there. the best i have seen on any mobile phone, but lacks the ability to customize it ourselfs.
Is it possible to hack the Sense UI to make this possible? (if someone can do this im happy to donate about 20 dollars, and i think more people are)
If not, we should make a large email, or online voting system to anyways draw the attention of HTC as a large company.
And yes, i know the other UI's available for windows mobile. But HTC sense is just....quietly brilliant
it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development
brandi said:
it seems to be possible to add new bars to the sense / touch flo.
as you can see when you use the manila tv player!
i think people should just start designing their apps for it, and maybe some experienced dev. could give an short tut how to find what you need to fasten the development
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Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.
borgqueenx said:
Just imagine the Applications tab i was talking about, what will include another bar with tabs to go to your ownmade categorie.
This will simply be........PERFECT!
sorry im real trilling about this.
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Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.
johncmolyneux said:
Can I just make a small suggestion?
Wait until you get the phone and have used it for a while before wanting to make lots of changes on it.
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still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second
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still a hard choice to make between my 3gs and HD2. But if its possible to add ownmade tabs, and there are some to download, i will have my choice made in 1 second
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Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.
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Okay, I'll make it a simple choice for you then.
No, you cannot currently add your own tabs to the Sense UI. It may become possible in the future, but it is highly unlikely, and the most likely event is that you get 1 or 2 additions to the tabs, but not something that you specifically want.
If you want either your iPhone or customizable tabs on the HD2, stick with your iPhone.
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so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.
borgqueenx said:
so you dont want this to happen? Thats what this thread is about after all.
And there are alot other things im considering.
i was just saying my choice would be easy if this was already possible.
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Personally, I don't have any interest in this happening. Since I can have lots of apps running at the same time and flick between them with a couple of clicks, it's actually easier to do that than it would be to put everything on the Sense UI.
Also, the Start menu is always 1 simple button click away, and that has everything on the phone listed.
I just don't think that this is a big deal.
It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
And by the way, if you need a reason to switch to the HD2, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsQHRtUtW0c&feature=player_embedded
That alone is enough of a reason to switch.
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It is possible, there's just no SDK, so it is complicated.If you want an SDK, please turn to HTC.
Personally, I don't use Sense at all, so I would not want that people develop pages for Sense instead of real WM applications.
I use the WM Default interface and TaskFacade to switch between open programs, which is much more convenient than scrolling through HTC Sense tabs, at least for me.
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well as i said i like the sense feel, theme and Gui the most of all things i have tried on all phones.
And im not talking about task switching here but improving htc sense by adding custom tabs.
i like the windows mobile default interface for task switching, but i will use HTC sense for launching a app, and watching the weather, twitter, newspapers, TV, and many stuff like that, if it was possible.
I found Max Manilla makes customizing the HTC sense possible a bit, but not completly. Il try contacting him but i think its gonna be hard to implent.
As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.
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As I said, you can add your own tabs, there's just no SDK to make it easy.
Look at stuff like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508102
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563150
And I really don't see any advantage in scrolling through Manila tabs instead of going to the start menu (e.g. to open the news application).
I think showaco is someone who knows how to make Manila pages.
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thanks you have any more?
I'l try to contact showac to learn how
Thanks again.
The TV tab is one I can think of, and it's under active development afaik: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534185
It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
It would be so great to have one page where all your programs were. Where you could organize them in folders and launch widgets from. We totally need to make this happen.
Oh wait, anyone ever hear of THE START MENU? It's faster than sliding to a Manila tab and has more functionality in one location.
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And it doesnt fit with the design. Yes, i care about beauty and design.
Starting a program is definately not the same, as if the information you r lookin for was directly shown in a sense tab. Its not just the look but also the feeling, that it is somehow integrated in your home screen and you dont have to start a program for that (always hated the app-binded UI on iphone). But the major factor is, that sense-functionalities might be connected with each other (p.ex. calendar and home-tab, footprints and album), which has not been done too well yet .
In my opinion it would for example just be nice to have a newspaper-tab where you can slide through different newspapers (like the accounts in email-tab) with a little overview of whats inside today, tap to chose one and scroll through the articles, be notified if theres somethin you are interested in and so on...
But i also have to state, that i am already quite happy with sense as it is and that wishes like these might be too far away...
I hope many new tabs will be created in the future.
I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.
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I just need one more tab that list current running programs. So i don't have to press any buttons.
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meh thats where i want to use the normal windows tak switcher for.
I´d like a tab with applications, that includes another bar with more tabs for categories.
Here's your solution... sort of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616415
That creates a Manila tab where you can add any standard Windows Mobile today screen plugins (like RSS readers etc.).
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I was setting here thinking , and came up with an idea. I'm not genius dev so I dont have a chance at it. But in my mind it sounds possible. But PLEAZ check this out , and let me know what you think about this idea.
Okay.One part of my idea is fairly simple, the next would be a challenge but , im sure one of the genius dev's here could do it. Here goes.
The simple part:
Pretty much strip iFonz down, no icons on it anywhere. Create a skin for it, with the diamond background, which can already be done. Then create a skin for the "DOCK" , that makes the bottom icons, look like the Home tabs on the diamond. This wouldn't be hard for a lot of you.
Next turn of the "slide" feature in the iFonz settings. Link the bottom icons to a different page each. That way when you hit one, it quickly pops up another page, pretty much like the htc home plug does. This right here takes care of one of the plugs used withthe diamond also. The program launcher tab. All you would have to do is setup your icons, and that part is done.This seems like it would be pretty simple. But now to the hard part.
The HARD part:
This is the parts that would be a challenge. I know some of you could do it, but its just getting someone interested. But anyway. Somehow create a plugin, or something, that will put apps like the clock, and messaging, and music, etc on the iFonz screen. I was thinking that for messaging and email, that you could somehow just make turn on like one icon on on iFonz, and link it to the proper size graphic. Then it would read whatever program it was linked too. I don't exactly know how to explain what I'm thinking here, but hopefully , you understand.
The way iFonz is set up, being able to choose links, and things. It seems like this would be very possible. Some things, like the clock, and messages, and maybe contacts, may be fairly simple to one of you devs. I myself would be happy , and I'm sure alot of you as well, with this , even if it was missing a couple of tabs, like the music, or something.
But anyway. Ponder on it, and let me know what you think. In my mind it seems extremely possible. And if someone was to do it, you'd have the smoothest working Diamond them around. The way iFonz would pop up a different page and things. But I hope you all give your ideas here. Maybe with some help this will become a reality
sounds like an idea
I'll be willing to pay for that even
Just try the latest beta of ThrottleLauncher
I think WAD2 is the best option....
The new beta version of Wisbar Advance Desktop 2 is amazing and I have had good results making a Diamond theme with it. Attached are some screen shots of what I have done so far. Goto www.lakeridgesoftware.com if you want more information or to download the latest (V8 as of 6/10/08) beta version of WAD2.
2manyphones, I certainly hope you'll be sharing that WisBar skin with us. Your skin alone is enough to make me wanna buy WAD!
I agree. Throttelauncher or SPB Shell w/the Diamond theme. Nice WAD setup though. I played around with it before. Great app but SPB Shell is easy to setup.
What about speed.
The throtllelauch and mobile shell slow down your device and are hungry for memory.
UL has nice possibilities if you want to keep speed and is highly customizable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2287294&postcount=238
But most people forget to look at Manila Theme for XIAMultiTheme
which is still in beta state tough, but works quite good.
A fine example of playing with WAD.
Landscape or Portrait mode.
at last, it is not iphone ****...
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this is what i can do with wad..
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http://i15.tinypic.com/2cmrn2e.gif
Great.......
Hi
Just wanted to put something else on the thread, bcuz we can do so much with the program but only a select few have the right answers.
I think you shoulden`t be messin with another phone`s UI, just use your own to make that result.
I dont like PPC`s that use too much sliding UI.
like it says Pocket PC, so lets just make it work precisely like a pc that`s more fun.
Ironic considering your sample is a Mac OS wannabe LOL.
To each his/her own. I personally don't think it's a good idea to dictate what people should or shouldnt do with their phones, time, or themes.
jomo25 said:
To each his/her own. I personally don't think it's a good idea to dictate what people should or shouldnt do with their phones, time, or themes.
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Exactly...
...so where are the tutorials/threads on WAD? I have searched before and there aren't many. I'm curious and want to try it out.
There's a whole forum at the WAD website http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum. Probably your best bet for ideas, samples, and support.
WAD2 is going to be even better!
The new version of WAD is almost complete and for people who want to customize their own devices - not just install a cab and have it be done (like SPB Mobile Shell) - WAD2 is by far the best option. It has about anything you can think of (at least I can): Multiple pages, with multiple plug-ins, show or hide task bar or bottom bar, notifications, registry displays, WMP display, weather support, animation, gestures..... try it! It is still a little buggy and I highly recommend you find the graphics or plug ins you like and create your own skin. That is the one drawback to WAD / 2 is it is very device specific, so loading someone else's skin usually does not work (different apps in diff locations, etc).
Here is my screen today. I tend to change it almost every day!
jomo25 said:
There's a whole forum at the WAD website http://lakeridgesoftware.com/forum. Probably your best bet for ideas, samples, and support.
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Thank you!...
I've used a trial WAD. Missed gestures, transitions, several bugs (Mio A701) and sometimes bad reloads (specially after empty battery softreset). The more you add the more it slows everything. Some object like meters (signal, battery, sms counter) even with a low refresh time still take a lot of memory.
It's beautiful for icons. But IMHO i prefer a complete UI (like PointUI, which has a french-style, gestures, menus,...)
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The new version of WAD is almost complete and for people who want to customize their own devices - not just install a cab and have it be done (like SPB Mobile Shell) - WAD2 is by far the best option. It has about anything you can think of (at least I can): Multiple pages, with multiple plug-ins, show or hide task bar or bottom bar, notifications, registry displays, WMP display, weather support, animation, gestures..... try it! It is still a little buggy and I highly recommend you find the graphics or plug ins you like and create your own skin. That is the one drawback to WAD / 2 is it is very device specific, so loading someone else's skin usually does not work (different apps in diff locations, etc).
Here is my screen today. I tend to change it almost every day!
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if you could share your theme.... thanks!
WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
kramerica2 said:
WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
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WAD2 has improved a lot...
alfibus said:
I've used a trial WAD. Missed gestures, transitions,
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lol, talk about missing gestures and transitions. Just tried to gesture the Firefox on my Windows box to flip to second page of this thread...
Is that UL addiction yet?
Wad is not slow
To take a hit at WAD`s speed, is a loose shot.
The speed depends on a whole lot of factors. Depending on youre device and its specs.
For my Touch its quick and I never have to wait for something its fast and runs good. I can do everything with it.
SOmeone called me Ironic for putting a mac screen on my ppc.
I was not ironic because I made it look like the pc`s interface not like another phone`s interface. What I think is that, wad is doing is giving people the possibility to make their own phone.
All these commercials on tv with phone this phone that and most of them dont work are not that great.
What programs like WAD offer is, a phone (with a brand that you buy) and once youre home you can forget all about the brand and make your own device.
I LOVE THE PROGRAM RESPECT TO THE MAKERS TILL WM7 IM STICKING TO IT
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WAD is a very powerful program, BUT its slow and consumes quite a lot of cpu/mem resources...
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mhmm, sure.
WAD2 has improved a lot...
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they won't understand, they have iphone and diamond ****, it is waste of time saying such things...
nothin said:
diamond ****
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Those 2 words don't quite go together
Hi all,
After I seen the Omnia interface, I decided to try making one that is similar or maybe better functionality. Currently, itz just a basic concept which I hope to develop more.
*Note* This is not a release version and hence it is not fully functional yet. I am just seeking ideas and opinions at this present moment.
Thanks!
wow!! can't wait for this!
Is their a link to see what the Omnia Interface is like since I have never heard of it and have no idea what it is for.
its the Samsung interface..great thinking..if u need any help i have some knowledge in C#
Edit : see here : http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?p=74631
EDIT: wrong thread, sorry, but NICE Icons,
this looks very promising
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mmh, a lot of colors, not better than the things on ifonz, pointui, mobileshell, touchflo3d.......
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So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.
Leechoonhwee said:
So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.
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text, mail, missed calls, call history, calender, task, alarms, comm manager, phone profile (ring, vibrate) & link to program launcher
That is what i usually use
Looks like something you could make in WAD very easily.
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Looks like something you could make in WAD very easily.
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Yes but i was looking at developing it native so it keeps the memory small.
Nice concept
looks nice, definitely something I'll be keeping a watch on.
Looks cool! I can't wait for the final result!
can't wait for samsung omnia to come out its own interface!
rem to put in appt schedule in too...will follow this forum tightly...
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So what are the essentials besides the clock, battery status, operator? I intend to make all these into icons and can be hidden or shown and placed any where on the screen.
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Fantastic idea, I was planning to start a thread like this.
In addition to the other feedback, don't forget some of the other functions of the HTC home, such as - weather and media player status.
Is your plan to imitate the TouchWiz II interface with the drag and drop icons, this would be an incredible addition to the current HTC offerings. Also, any plans for VGA for Universal and Athena owners?
Best of luck
Sound like a great idea!, keep working....thanks
A settings button would be very very useful.. I find it hard myself to get to settings without a sylus in a short amount of time.
A Quick SMS button would be a wonderful feature also.
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Hi there, would be great to see stuff like this. I aprreciate to test this one
In my opinion the icons of the samsung themes are too coloured. I would prefer to habve more "simpler" icons. - as these attached.
in case you want to get somethig like this let me know in case you want somebody to do some icons for u
ather90 said:
its the Samsung interface..great thinking..if u need any help i have some knowledge in C#
Edit : see here : http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?p=74631
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OMG the background music is nice!!!
anyone know what music is that
I *love* it.. don't get me wrong.. but these are my gripes after one day, and I can't find any clear answers searching the forums.
the flipping clock.. literally.. it is annoying. how do you disable the clock animation? (I found a thread for this with a .cab file, but it wasn't proven to work on the Tmo USA version)
Opera will not let me click on links. this sucks all the way around- I can't go anywhere online on this huge beautiful screen. I refuse to use IE cuz.. well, it sucks on any platform.
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
my earthlink and gmail emails were up and running in no time. but I had one hell of a time setting up my work email. we have our own domain- I had to set up the email through my t-mobile.com and then set it up on the device. as far as I know, it's all working fine now.
I have a mac. I used syncmate- I don't use activesync, but can't figure out a way to disable it- always running in the background. I do run XP through Parallels- but I don't use Outlook, so activesync is of no use to me.
why can't All Messages be the default screen for sms/mms tab? same for email- inbox list please?
typing- I don't like xt9 cuz I don't want word suggestions, but I do want spell check. I enabled the spell check with abc, but it doesn't do it.
I un-checked the box for "notify of open wifi networks" but it still tells me all about them.
whenever I restart, I have a voicemail and txt notification- but no voicemail, and some random txt message, and it takes the led notification a few minutes to clear out.
after coming out of a locked screen, apps are open and active that were not when I locked it.
anyone know of updates or easy fixes? I don't have the opportunity to start messing around with different ROMs for a few weeks...
I find the phone to be a buggy mess, wait for an update from HTC/Tmo hopefully or flash it.
fociz said:
I find the phone to be a buggy mess, wait for an update from HTC/Tmo hopefully or flash it.
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You'll be waiting a loooong time. The best option (for the adventurous) is to simply flash one of the TMOUS compatible ROMs found here.
the clock flip cab will work.the only thing that will work on all other hd2s but not on yours is the ..51.. radios. in all other respects the phones are identical.
I know what you mean man. Previously to this phone, I had a iPhone 3GS 32gb which I traded for this phone. I had a lot of the same gripes as you have now. 95% of them probably can be fixed by HSPL'ing your phone and then flashing a different ROM on it. I am on the ATT network and so a lot of the apps that were on the phone I didn't need or use as they were meant for TMO users. So I flashed my HD2 with Kumar's lite rom. Not only did it stop a lot of the bugginess (stalling, freezing, random closing of apps, etc) but it made it a lot quicker. Might want to try that and see if it helps. The clock flipping was annoying as all hell so I just installed the cab to disable it.
I tell my friends who know me pretty well as being an iPhone addict that if the iPhone and HD2 were weapons, the iPhone would be a surgical knife. From the sleek look of the case to the smooth transitioning of the OS makes using it so easy. It doesn't have a lot of speed but with the thousands of apps and fluid movement within the phone, it feels great.
Now the HD2 on the other hand is like a broadsword. You have to put a lot of effort into getting it to do what you want it to do. With the 1ghz processor and 576mb of ram, it can do maul down anything you need it to. The HD2 you can't just pick it up and expect to use it to its fullest potential. It takes a lot of patience to learn your way around the phone. With the iPhone, you jailbreak it and modify it to be more aesthetically pleasing to your eyes and to your fingers. If you have ever just cruised cydia, you will notice not much is there in the way of performance modifications. Mainly just apps and packages that let you change how the phone moves and works for you. The roms, cabs, and registry tweaks you perform on the HD2 are more performance based I have noticed. Yes there are some cabs to help you disable or enable things but right off the bat it seems like you have to modify it. I attribute this to Microsoft's laziness in creating an OS that can perform as well as not crash at the same time.
But while you are waiting for that "oh so needed" port of Android, try kumar's rom. It might just be what you need.
I knew what I was getting into as far as WinMo is concerned... I've been reading the forums on many different sites getting ready for this.
the one thing I am not finding: absolute n00b, specific, clear, step by step instructions on how to do the hspl. I've jailbroken and rooted before- I was as nervous then and just don't wanna mess up. (I have to run anything like that with XP through Parallels on my mac, and I don't do it enough to know wtf I'm doing)
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I knew what I was getting into as far as WinMo is concerned... I've been reading the forums on many different sites getting ready for this.
the one thing I am not finding: absolute n00b, specific, clear, step by step instructions on how to do the hspl. I've jailbroken and rooted before- I was as nervous then and just don't wanna mess up. (I have to run anything like that with XP through Parallels on my mac, and I don't do it enough to know wtf I'm doing)
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As I recall, you cannot flash via Parallels. You can with Bootcamp. I do it all the time on my MacBook Pro via XP sp3.
As a Mac user, I find that Missing Sync is great, but the iTunes integration is not the best. To transfer music, I use doubleTwist. I disabled the music sync plugins in Missing Sync, as I found that they did not do as good a job as doubleTwist. The two together has been fantastic.
I had the same opera problem here is how I fixed it
Download this on your windows computer
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/
Do this
HKLM/controlpanel/pen and change the value of 'Hide' from 1 to 0.
Soft reset, then go settings tab - menu - all settings - system and you should see screen settings icon.
Then go to screen settings and enable "clear type"
that makes the fonts look better
now do this
Enable Clickable Links in Zoomed Out Opera
This reg edit allows you to tap on a link without the need for zooming in first.
HKLM/Software/Opera/Info/az_overview_threshold
Change value from 64 to 32
thats why you can't click the links, it wants you to be zoomed all the way in, the above fix, fixes that problem easily
Also search for the cab, duttys task manager, its excellent
Where is the clear type setting, is that in Opera... just for 9.7? I'm running 10 anything comparable there?
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I *love* it.. don't get me wrong.. but these are my gripes after one day, and I can't find any clear answers searching the forums.
the flipping clock.. literally.. it is annoying. how do you disable the clock animation? (I found a thread for this with a .cab file, but it wasn't proven to work on the Tmo USA version)
solace.discord said:
Opera will not let me click on links. this sucks all the way around- I can't go anywhere online on this huge beautiful screen. I refuse to use IE cuz.. well, it sucks on any platform.
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Use Opera 10. Its a lot faster and easier to use overall (click links included). If you can live without pinch to zoom, it blows the iPhone browser out of the water.
solace.discord said:
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
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Use the facebook full site. Its very much useable on the HD2 thanks to its screen size and processor speed. Plus if you use Skyfire with it, you have full flash support and will be able to use all of the facebook fullsites functions! (can't do that on the iPhone)
solace.discord said:
why can't All Messages be the default screen for sms/mms tab? same for email- inbox list please?
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The energy ROM I'm using has the option of defaulting to the classics SMS view. There are cabs out there that allow you to do the same.
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typing- I don't like xt9 cuz I don't want word suggestions, but I do want spell check. I enabled the spell check with abc, but it doesn't do it.
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The XT9 keyboard sucks hard. It doesn't auto correct nearly as well as the iPhone. I turn it off. Fortunately for me, 3 years on an iPhone has made me proficient enough at typing on a touchscreen, and I hardly make mistakes on it anymore. There are alternative keyboards out there that people are using, but I haven't tried them yet. Swype apparently works really well, but again, I'm accustomed to typing on a touchscreen.
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I un-checked the box for "notify of open wifi networks" but it still tells me all about them.
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I don't have that problem, although I keep my wifi off. T-mobiles 3G network is really fast and stable in Houston. If you can keep it off, that might be your best bet.
solace.discord said:
whenever I restart, I have a voicemail and txt notification- but no voicemail, and some random txt message, and it takes the led notification a few minutes to clear out.
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after coming out of a locked screen, apps are open and active that were not when I locked it.
anyone know of updates or easy fixes? I don't have the opportunity to start messing around with different ROMs for a few weeks...
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I haven't had any of these problems. Most of the problems you're having are attributable to the stock ROM. Once I flashed the rom, things started running perfectly. Its a pretty easy process...just as easy as updating the firmware on the iPhone, and it only takes about 10 minutes. Its A LOT easier than jailbreaking an iPhone.
Other than that, most of the problems I've encountered were fixed with cabs (even prior to flashing the ROM). Hopefully people will chime in on other fixes, but if not, search is your friend.
SEscobedo said:
I know what you mean man. Previously to this phone, I had a iPhone 3GS 32gb which I traded for this phone. I had a lot of the same gripes as you have now. 95% of them probably can be fixed by HSPL'ing your phone and then flashing a different ROM on it. I am on the ATT network and so a lot of the apps that were on the phone I didn't need or use as they were meant for TMO users. So I flashed my HD2 with Kumar's lite rom. Not only did it stop a lot of the bugginess (stalling, freezing, random closing of apps, etc) but it made it a lot quicker. Might want to try that and see if it helps. The clock flipping was annoying as all hell so I just installed the cab to disable it.
I tell my friends who know me pretty well as being an iPhone addict that if the iPhone and HD2 were weapons, the iPhone would be a surgical knife. From the sleek look of the case to the smooth transitioning of the OS makes using it so easy. It doesn't have a lot of speed but with the thousands of apps and fluid movement within the phone, it feels great.
Now the HD2 on the other hand is like a broadsword. You have to put a lot of effort into getting it to do what you want it to do. With the 1ghz processor and 576mb of ram, it can do maul down anything you need it to. The HD2 you can't just pick it up and expect to use it to its fullest potential. It takes a lot of patience to learn your way around the phone. With the iPhone, you jailbreak it and modify it to be more aesthetically pleasing to your eyes and to your fingers. If you have ever just cruised cydia, you will notice not much is there in the way of performance modifications. Mainly just apps and packages that let you change how the phone moves and works for you. The roms, cabs, and registry tweaks you perform on the HD2 are more performance based I have noticed. Yes there are some cabs to help you disable or enable things but right off the bat it seems like you have to modify it. I attribute this to Microsoft's laziness in creating an OS that can perform as well as not crash at the same time.
But while you are waiting for that "oh so needed" port of Android, try kumar's rom. It might just be what you need.
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An analogy that I used in another topic is that if the iPhone and HD2 were cars, the iPhone would be the automatic, the HD2 would be a stick-shift.
The 'automatic-iPhone' appeals to a wide variety of people because its a simple, intuitive device. Most people can pick it up, and figure it out right away. If people find something is lacking on the iPhone, they can easily access the App store and hopefully find what they need. Having gone from a windows mobile phone to the iphone and back to a windows mobile phone, I realized eventually that a lot of the Apps on the iPhone are adding functions that are innate in windows mobile...and while the iPhone Apps are prettier, they usually don't have as much function/utility as they would on WM.
The 'manual-transmission HD2' appeals to power-users who want to get a lot of use from there phone, are somewhat technical, and those who realize that by tinkering a little bit, they can customize the experience completely to suit their needs. Windows Mobile is more cumbersome to use initially, and isn't as intuitive, but once you get the hang of it and learn how to manage your resources, you can capitalize on how much more quickly you can jump between tasks, and flat out how much you can do on this device. Sense does a great job of streamlining your core functions (phone, text, email, twitter etc) and I really like how you can check these things very quickly. Its also nice to know that if I ever need to 'pop the hood' and tweak some things underneath it, I can.
The point is, it may not work perfectly for you initially, but you can tweak it to work perfectly. With the iPhone, a lot of functions are kinda half-assed, and I missed the 'mobile PC' functionality of the HD2....my main gripe with the old Wm phones is that the hardware couldn't keep up with the software...not an issue with the HD2.
if this were a BlackBerry, I wouldn't have started this thread... but it's a WM device, I've only had a Treo before, and didn't really get into changing anything about it, and then gave it up for BlackBerry, which I did tweak, and the MT3G, which I did root and tweak and ROMs and everything.. I never did anything but jailbreak and unlock the iphone so I could use it on TMobile
I don't know how to do the hspl or change registries... install a .cab? no problem.. but I can't find clear instructions on how to do the hspl and the install a new ROM.
and- I'm on a mac... running XP through Parallels for all purposes.
if someone can point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
solace.discord said:
if this were a BlackBerry, I wouldn't have started this thread... but it's a WM device, I've only had a Treo before, and didn't really get into changing anything about it, and then gave it up for BlackBerry, which I did tweak, and the MT3G, which I did root and tweak and ROMs and everything.. I never did anything but jailbreak and unlock the iphone so I could use it on TMobile
I don't know how to do the hspl or change registries... install a .cab? no problem.. but I can't find clear instructions on how to do the hspl and the install a new ROM.
and- I'm on a mac... running XP through Parallels for all purposes.
if someone can point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
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You won't be able to safely/effectively flash ROMs via Parallels. I would not do it, because there are reports of bricked HD2s via VM flashes. It's safer to use Bootcamp. That's what I do. I have an XPsp3 partition with all my phone stuff there (Radios, ROMs, MTTY, HSPL, etc.) and it works like a charm.
so I found a thread with noob instructions.. looks like I'm gonna have to fire up the old HP in the corner.
solace.discord said:
the facebook app blows. (the only thing I miss about my iphone- so far) and I don't care for the touch.facebook.com or m.facebook.com cuz I can't click on links in Opera.
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Go to marketplace and download the new version - it's really good.
solace.discord said:
so I found a thread with noob instructions.. looks like I'm gonna have to fire up the old HP in the corner.
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Would you mind posting a link to the instructions you mention, so people who find this thread in the future can get to it easily? Thanks
Hello all, first post here *as a WM* user...
I got my HD2 last week, and I have installed some tweeks already, including running Android from the SD, but one thing is really bothering me; the Calendar on the home screen.
I'd really like to kill it, but from what I have found (yes, I searched lol), it looks like I will have to theme to do so. Honestly, I really like the Sense 2.5 look as it is stock, so I am not looking to completely redo it. I just want to remove the Calendar from the home screen, and if I could completely remove the top 3 quick links, that would be a bonus.
I did find this thread, which looks promising, but the files are not avail for DL anymore, and I am slightly confused about how to implement it anyway lol...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552153
Anyone know of a way to remove this? Maybe a simple .cab to run that will do it?
Any help is appreciated...
VisualOddity said:
Hello all, first post here *as a WM* user...
I got my HD2 last week, and I have installed some tweeks already, including running Android from the SD, but one thing is really bothering me; the Calendar on the home screen.
I'd really like to kill it, but from what I have found (yes, I searched lol), it looks like I will have to theme to do so. Honestly, I really like the Sense 2.5 look as it is stock, so I am not looking to completely redo it. I just want to remove the Calendar from the home screen, and if I could completely remove the top 3 quick links, that would be a bonus.
I did find this thread, which looks promising, but the files are not avail for DL anymore, and I am slightly confused about how to implement it anyway lol...
Anyone know of a way to remove this? Maybe a simple .cab to run that will do it?
Any help is appreciated...
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In terms of the quicklinks, try Cookies home tab, I think you can remove them (you can change the number of them, so guessing you might be able to)
Defitinely definitely install Cookie, it adds next to no baggage to your phone but offers so much flexibility and customisation it's unreal....
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In terms of the quicklinks, try Cookies home tab, I think you can remove them (you can change the number of them, so guessing you might be able to)
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smeddy said:
Defitinely definitely install Cookie, it adds next to no baggage to your phone but offers so much flexibility and customisation it's unreal....
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I'll add it then. Will it adjust the stock theme? I do NOT want to get rid of the stock home clock/weather. I love it's animation lol...
No it shouldn't (altho it offers more choice for clocks) and it's easily uninstallable with no damage caused if you dislike it
Wow, CHT is awesome!
Thanks Guys!
Enjoy it! Fantastic mod for Sense!