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Hi!
I really need help right now. This is second time my TyTN goes wild this way.
I can start machine allright and I can put PIN-code in but little bit after TyTN hangs totally. It does not respond to anything.
Even hard reset is difficult to do because you have to be so quick to push buttons before systems freezes.
There is no extreme programs or any changes made after last hard reset.
1. Can I do something now on the road?
2. What have I done wrong that it goes wild like this?
Please help ASAP if there is something to do now without HR.
I dont think the freeze can stop the hard reset ... You should be able to HR even when your TyTN is frozen till the ice ages ...
This is not the....
This is not the main issue. I can Hard Reset... but what went wron in the first place? And twice in one week.
Few decent program installations and using ActiveSync in two machines... I think that is the reason somehow... But how to prevent this happening constantly.
Most likely, one of your programs is screwing it up .. You need to figure out which one it is ... Setup one by one manually and see what happens ..
Also, try installing SPB Pocket Plus .. that has a manual safe startup mode .. see if you are able to start up your TyTN in the safe mode .. instead of doing a hard reset everytime ..
_mike_ said:
Hi!
I really need help right now. This is second time my TyTN goes wild this way.
I can start machine allright and I can put PIN-code in but little bit after TyTN hangs totally. It does not respond to anything.
Even hard reset is difficult to do because you have to be so quick to push buttons before systems freezes.
There is no extreme programs or any changes made after last hard reset.
1. Can I do something now on the road?
2. What have I done wrong that it goes wild like this?
Please help ASAP if there is something to do now without HR.
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Just another thing to check along with suggestions above. Do you use a storage card. If so does it still hang with the card out. And secondly is there a decent amount of on board memory free.?
Mike
gravejoker said:
Most likely, one of your programs is screwing it up .. You need to figure out which one it is ... Setup one by one manually and see what happens ..
Also, try installing SPB Pocket Plus .. that has a manual safe startup mode .. see if you are able to start up your TyTN in the safe mode .. instead of doing a hard reset everytime ..
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Had this happen on a Prophet it turns out it was one of the 3rd party software apps installed, the author updated it and no more issues.
I would bet the same thing is happening to you on the TyTn
yer i agree with mark i had same prob with my htc tytn turn out to be a 3rd party bluesnafing tool
What program that...
...might be?
Nothing starts on startup. I mean nothing special that my friend does not have. And he has no problems at all.
My guess still is that problem is ActiveSync. Because in freeze I can see part of ActiveSync window. And ActiveSync starts automatic...
Is there way to prevent ActuveSync on startup?
Thank you for your replys.
_mike_ said:
...might be?
Nothing starts on startup. I mean nothing special that my friend does not have. And he has no problems at all.
My guess still is that problem is ActiveSync. Because in freeze I can see part of ActiveSync window. And ActiveSync starts automatic...
Is there way to prevent ActuveSync on startup?
Thank you for your replys.
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_mike_ I wouldn't be that dismissive of that advice. Usually, just where you think your sure you have everything covered in a particular area so theres no need to check, thats usually where your problem is.
The fact is that you and your friend have two different phones. Are the model numbers, lot numbers identical? Did you both in stall the exact same software with the exact same version numbers?
I'm guessing that you missed something there.
You need to be patient and thorough when figuring our these issues.
The best advice to find the answer to your problem has already been given.
Start with a base WM5 build and your ext ROM software. Remove your memory card.
Spend at least a day or two in base config. This will certainly tell you if its the phone or the software.
If your phone stays good, add one of your programs to the phone and wait another day.
repeat this until you find out what's causing the issue.
It's not quick or fast, but it's effective.
Good Luck!
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_mike_ I wouldn't be that dismissive of that advice. Usually, just where you think your sure you have everything covered in a particular area so theres no need to check, thats usually where your problem is.
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It's not quick or fast, but it's effective.
Good Luck!
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I think you are right. I'll do that. Thank you.
_mike_ said:
I think you are right. I'll do that. Thank you.
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Let us know how you make out.
So what happened with this issue?
Mine has started doing this right after I installed pRSSreader and subscribed to BBc news feed
I took out storage card, soft reset and was quick enough to disable the today screen plugin for the offending app and then uninstall now everything's okay.
Maybe problem was caused by installing pRSSreader to the storage card confused:
Quad said:
So what happened with this issue?
Mine has started doing this right after I installed pRSSreader and subscribed to BBc news feed
I took out storage card, soft reset and was quick enough to disable the today screen plugin for the offending app and then uninstall now everything's okay.
Maybe problem was caused by installing pRSSreader to the storage card confused:
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There was an issue with pRSSreader 1.3.2 I believe. It happened to me. I was able to disable the today plugin and recover, but it took a few tries. It's supposed to be fixed in the latest version.
Freeze TYTN
I had the same problem after installing Nots Push mail 3 party software.
Each SR make my TYTN freeze.
I have used Memmaid in order to remove it from the startup program
It has solved the problem
Mine hung after installing and uninstalling psShutXp. After uninstalling, I kept getting a notification error message whenever I turned it on concerning psShutXp. Then, it just locked up for good. No amount of soft resets, powering off/on helped. After a hard reset and reinstall of my favorite apps, back to working fine.
I do occassionally lock my phone by accident and I get a little freaked out the next time I use it because nothing works. Then, I realize what I did and that I'm a moron and everything's good again.
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There was an issue with pRSSreader 1.3.2 I believe. It happened to me. I was able to disable the today plugin and recover, but it took a few tries. It's supposed to be fixed in the latest version.
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Just checked and that was the version I installed.
edit - according to their website 1.3.2 is the lates version
Hi,
I now have the same problem. I have only a view programs installed. Each softreset hangs at the windows mobile screen.
As I don't like a hard reset everytime, my workaround is to enter the bootloader and do a softreset from there...
Is it cleared in between, what is causing the hangs?
good night
dsp
Im getting a similiar problem with mine after not having added ANY new software recently. Mine hangs at the HTC screen, and no matter whether there is:
A) sim card and microSD card
B) microSD card only
C) sim card only
D) neither
in the machine, it still just hangs at the HTC screen on startup (regardless of whether its a soft or hard reset), and doesnt even make the startup tone, or play the animation, all it shows are a few digits and such in red at the beginning. PLEASE HELP!
Mine has it too
I know its a year later, but has anyone found an answer for the Freezing / not booting / not starting of the phone?
One reason is if you have a BS rom installed. You need to install a stock NBS rom (make sure radio is stripped out or you will have to reflash yours) the reflash your BS rom. Make sure you back-up your contacts and messages first.
Cheers...
I've got a bit of an odd issue with an XDA Trion/Hermes -
Basically no matter what ROM I use (WM5/WM6/Cooked) after installing a few apps (doesn't matter which ones - I've tried all kinds of combinations) when I do a soft reset the device will boot back up and hang at the Windows Mobile splash screen. If I hard reset the device functions fine again until I load some stuff on it. I've also seen it do this without anything installed - but it is a lot less frequent.
All in all I can't go more than a few days without having to hard reset and reload my stuff. Sometimes its one day, sometimes its multiple days. Restoring from a backup also causes this to happen - so hard resetting and then restoring is not an option. Also, I've left the device at the splash screen from a full battery to dead just to make sure I wasn't being impatient.
Anyone seen this before? Any ideas before I call HTC and ask them to look at it?
Suggest you do some searches on "bad memory block"
Mike
Will do - thanks for the suggestion!
mikechannon said:
Suggest you do some searches on "bad memory block"
Mike
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Well did I did a bunch of searching as you suggested - spent almost 4 hours yesterday just on the forum looking for answers on this. Using "mtty" and checking in the bootloader I've determined there to be no bad blocks.
I've tried all sorts of different WM6 Roms, Hard SPL, you name it. All of them end up with the same problem.
The only time I don't have a problem is when I use an OEM WM5 ROM. Using an OEM WM6 Rom - I have the problem come back.
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.15.502.3_6275_1.40.30.00_108_Ship == NO Lockup on Splash Screen
RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship == Lockup on splash screen after a few MB of apps/data added to the device
Any other ideas?
Mmm... well I think you need someone more expert than I. You might try a PM to the likes of MrVanx to see if anyone has reported this or some of the other developers for the Hermes Pof et al.
Mike
Thanks Mike I appreciate the attempt - I think I might just be happy with the fact that its working again. Its really just backup device to my iPhone but at least now I can rely on it again to hold onto my data for more than a couple days. I'll spend some more time reading all the posts. Now that I know what I have to do to get it working again after trying something experimental its not so bad.
Thanks again
I've been having the same problem with my 8525, it like sometimes more then not, it freezes at the green windows mobile. It is really frustrating, let me know if you have found a solution, but the problem with my 8525 is the lag, in it, I'm thinking of maybe switching to a blackberry 8320 if this problem doesn't get fixed.
netsyd said:
Thanks Mike I appreciate the attempt - I think I might just be happy with the fact that its working again. Its really just backup device to my iPhone but at least now I can rely on it again to hold onto my data for more than a couple days. I'll spend some more time reading all the posts. Now that I know what I have to do to get it working again after trying something experimental its not so bad.
Thanks again
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have you had any answers. I am getting sick of resetting this dam thing. If this keeps up im getting an IPHONE. Stuff Windows!!!!!!!
kripto64 said:
have you had any answers. I am getting sick of resetting this dam thing. If this keeps up im getting an IPHONE. Stuff Windows!!!!!!!
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Are you experiencing the same problem as the poster? I am not experiencing anything like it at all. I have a jasjam, and flashed with a shipped ROM first, and then with CRCinAU's version 11.2, what have you got installed on your phone? Just remember the specs of the hermes, compared to the likes of a raphael or even a polaris (touch cruise).
Don't go jumping the gun getting an iphone, read this bit for a bit of a review. I honestly not having the problems some of the guys are having here knowing my phone's limitations and what I can get out of my hermes.
zocster said:
Are you experiencing the same problem as the poster? I am not experiencing anything like it at all. I have a jasjam, and flashed with a shipped ROM first, and then with CRCinAU's version 11.2, what have you got installed on your phone? Just remember the specs of the hermes, compared to the likes of a raphael or even a polaris (touch cruise).
Don't go jumping the gun getting an iphone, read this bit for a bit of a review. I honestly not having the problems some of the guys are having here knowing my phone's limitations and what I can get out of my hermes.
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I am getting the same problem as the poster. I have a Palm Treo 750 running WM6 from Palm web site ATT version 2.25 download.
After I load a few of my apps on there the phone will all of a sudden start playing up with the buttons not responding. I do what you should be able to do and soft reset by it all stops at the windows logo then end of story. Only way out is hard reset and set everything up again.
kripto64 said:
I am getting the same problem as the poster. I have a Palm Treo 750 running WM6 from Palm web site ATT version 2.25 download.
After I load a few of my apps on there the phone will all of a sudden start playing up with the buttons not responding. I do what you should be able to do and soft reset by it all stops at the windows logo then end of story. Only way out is hard reset and set everything up again.
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Must be some app conflict, I have my wife's treo with me at the moment and it is as good as new, can't imagine what would be conflicting with the treo tho
I got my blackstone yesterday. Excitedly opened it up, fiddled with it a while, and flashed a new rom. It was a while before i realised that the phone woudlnt vibrate. Im pretty sure its a hardware fault, but just wanted to check here to make sure I havent missed something.
The phone wont vibrate, even when being called / txted with vibrate mode on. I also understand the hardware buttons are sposed to have some kind of haptic feedback or minivibrate, but this doesent work either.
I searched through all the settings, and couldnt find any magical turn on vibrate feature buttton. Vibrate notification is definately turned on, and so is the vibrate profile. I inittialy installed Panoshas Black Pearl rom. I tried a hard reset, and then also flashed the Dutty rom, and finally the original rom to see if it that worked.
Can anyone point out an obvious mistake ive made? Or am I gonna have to send my lovely blackstone back?
Thnx in advance.
Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!
Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?
sectorlord said:
Was it vibrating when you recieve it, on it's original ROM ?
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I only noticed that it wasnt after I flashed the rom, so altho im fairly certain i dont remember it ever vibrating, i cant be absolutely certain.
[email protected] said:
Hmmm...you've already tried flashing a new rom and if you still have the same problem, send it in. It's still spanking new, shouldn't be a problem getting it rectified....or better yet ....replaced!
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thnx for your response, i think ill probably do that.
its pretty annoying to have to send it back already lol, but its worth it to have a working vibrate.
A Second Opinion
Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!
Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?
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Yep, I got my Blackstone a week ago today and it vibrated just fine out the box. I have not flashed any new ROMs, but I have installed plenty of programs including .net 3.5 and mobilmagic button stuff and hd tweak, installed and uninstalled advanced config and a few keyboards, the list goes on. Long story short, my vibrate doesn't work either! I think this is due to my tampering with it though, I really do. Also, I saw another post where someone had the same problem, he ended up getting his to work after playing with .net 3.5, hard resetting more than once and soft resetting too. So try that, let me know what you find out! I plan to hard reset and flash new ROMs soon, so I figured maybe these problems would go away then. Oh and, anybody else have a problem where their end key doesn't end the call, ? This is such a tinkerer's toy, lol!
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thanks for the tip. i fiddled with .net framework 3.5 and more hard resets, and altho i have installed hdtweak and advconfig a couple times, ive done multiple clean flashes without them and it still dont work. in fact - as i said above, im 90% sure it never did work, so im convinced its a hardware fault.
i hope yours wroks after a rom flash, but i think mine is gonna have to go back...
Nerdino said:
Probably a good warning about flashing ROMs! Did you backup your original ROM? I think you will need to restore your original ROM before you send it back for "repair". (Otherwise it is likely you will be charged for any work/replacement - justifiably!)
Before you despair, what ROM did you flash it with? Have you contacted the developer about it? It may be a setting in a tweak you don't know you've installed. Have you tried playing Tweeter (the vibration feedback when the ball collides with a wall will indicate a working/non-working vibrator).
Rather than just offer bad news to you and tell you it's your own fault, here is a helpful tut on How to backup ROM, albeit a little late maybe. It may not be all doom and gloom - some kind soul may be able to offer you their backup ROM (particular to your mobile provider) which you can use to restore it to factory default before testing for the vibrate and/or sending it back for a fix. Who is your provider and what original ROM do you need?
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yeah - i definately played tweeter even before flashing any roms, and there was no vibrate - so i guess that proves it really is the hardware.
i bought my phone from mobilephonesdirect, but have my rom backed up, so should be ok.
ta for the offer tho.
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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lol - i will trade?
You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,
shthpnz said:
You could try and use TouchResponse. That program gives a vibration response with every touch on the screen. If not, indeed send it in.
Regards,
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thnx for the response.
sadly ive tried that as well and no dice...
im pretty sure I have the same problem
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks
blacksage said:
hey, I have the same problem and hard resetting and all that didn't help. Where did you buy yours, think they came from the same place? Are you sending back to HTC, how quickly did they say they could fix it and send it back?
Thanks
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got mine from
mobilephonesdirect.co.uk
havent been able to get throught them on the phone yet.
ill keep you updated if you want.
I appreciate that
yes I would love for you to keep me updated, I purchased mine through ebay from addictedtophones.com, which is out of California. They seemed like nice people but they sure aren't wanting to help my broken vibrate after only 8 days! That is just sad my friend. I have also contacted UK and US support and HTC global repair service. They have indicated that they are looking in to it. Apparently the US section may not have the resources to work on the device. I requested that they replace the phone, if they couldn't work on it ASAP, the person seemed to agree and put the request forward. I hope that helps your situation. I spent too much for a broken stone!
Levi
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I received my new replacement Touch HD in the mail a little bit ago, it vibrates. It must have been a hardware issue best I can tell. I just about had to send it off to HTC, but I finally got the retailer to replace it. It actually took a lot of crap just to get HTC USA GLOBAL repair center to want to accept the idea but, I called UK HTC and they called HQ in Taiwan or somewhere and got something done. So if you need some help, Ive got a few contacts that can help, anyone can just let me know. I hope this doesn't become a widespread infection.
blacksage
I'd say it's probably a hardware issue. My first HD also didn't vibrate, and had to exchange for a new one. Probably some issues with one of the batches.
mikemod said:
Mine was the opposite, it wouldn't stop vibrating, even when switched off.
You had to take the battery out to get it to stop.
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Had the same problem...now we're at least two with this prob. Still waiting for the replacement...
My Vogue is only about 3 months old, but is already showing signs of age. Recently, when ever I try to access Messaging, it locks up, as in nothing works. I'm currently waiting for the battery to die down and see if that helps. Also, I have yet to have been able to get to Haret to boot into Android, so has anyone else had a similar issue? If I can avoid it, I would not like to flash the ROM on the phone. I'm using the Official Alltel 6.1 ROM.
Try SK Tools
http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
Or Memmaid
http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/
If all else fails then try a hard reset.
Landon4576 said:
My Vogue is only about 3 months old, but is already showing signs of age. Recently, when ever I try to access Messaging, it locks up, as in nothing works. I'm currently waiting for the battery to die down and see if that helps. Also, I have yet to have been able to get to Haret to boot into Android, so has anyone else had a similar issue? If I can avoid it, I would not like to flash the ROM on the phone. I'm using the Official Alltel 6.1 ROM.
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Man, I know you prolly got a lot of stuff saved on there but you would be so much happier with a custom ROM! and if you dont like the Manilla then check out Conflippers last HTC home ROM. its still much faster than the stock Alltel ROM. Especially if you change the PagePool to 24 before you flash. His HTC Home Rom is in the 2nd post on this thread.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33359
And heres a really good way to back up your info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705&highlight=PIM+Backup
Working on it
Trying to use Memmaid, as soon as my machine recognizes that the phone is connected.
Nope, ActiveSync cannot even reach the device, so there's no way to Flash it or install Memmaid. So, Im out of options, except for the whole "brick" option.
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Nope, ActiveSync cannot even reach the device, so there's no way to Flash it or install Memmaid. So, Im out of options, except for the whole "brick" option.
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Will it not go into bootloader? you can flash from that screen. In fact its reccomended.
Also you can hard restart you phone by holding the "send" and "end" keys then poking your stylus reset button.
Well this is just great
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Will it not go into bootloader? you can flash from that screen. In fact its reccomended.
Also you can hard restart you phone by holding the "send" and "end" keys then poking your stylus reset button.
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Funny Story about that. Those ignorant twats at Alltel told me this was a soft reset, not wanting to appear arrogant and rude, I did it, this was over the phone, and she then wanted me to add extras to my plan. Also is there any way I can get old programs to show up from my SD card?
emergency...
after installing the american android latest build, my touch screen has become unresponsive. i can boot up fine and see the lock screes but my inputs are not being read. i dual boot wp7 and my worst nightmare came true because it al the same on wp7, which makes me thing it has to be a coincidental hardware issue.
could this be a software issue, even though it is happening on two different OS?
Is anyone familiar with this and what would be my best next step?
Is there anyway to get my text messages that would be coming in today while my phone is off? i dont even want to boot up since then i will receive these messages and not be able to read them, thus losing them.
help and thanks ,
jason
jason370 said:
emergency...
after installing the american android latest build, my touch screen has become unresponsive. i can boot up fine and see the lock screes but my inputs are not being read. i dual boot wp7 and my worst nightmare came true because it al the same on wp7, which makes me thing it has to be a coincidental hardware issue.
could this be a software issue, even though it is happening on two different OS?
Is anyone familiar with this and what would be my best next step?
Is there anyway to get my text messages that would be coming in today while my phone is off? i dont even want to boot up since then i will receive these messages and not be able to read them, thus losing them.
help and thanks ,
jason
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Hi Jason,
I have the same issue with my HD2! I did all the tip I can find online but no luck .
I did try to change my Android ROM many of time. Installed W7 and still no good. Install HD2 Stock ROM still behave the same.
Still looking for a solution!!
I think it's tied to the end call button I lose touch every time I hit it in both android and winmo locking and unlocking repeatedly will temp fix as long as I don't use the end button a fix would be great