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Unwanted automatic deleting files and software blocked??!!

Hi.
I just bought a Hermes (HTC TyTN), but something is wrong. I have made some registry hacks according to what I could find here, but ie. the "ClearType on rotation" keeps disappering if I soft reset. Also some CAB files seems to install, but I can't find the applications in the device. Not in any menu, not even by using File Explorer!
The device is supposed to be SIM locked (which it's not!), but could it be software locked?? I would not think, that a SIM lock would mean I wouldn't be able to install various things, but I may be wrong.
I really hope someone has some valuable information for me, because it's really annoying!
If anyone could give me some other advises for tuning the little bugg*r I would be very happy!
I had a "softwareunlock.cab" file for my Wizard, but I can't find a simular for the Hermes. Maybe that would do the trick?!
ROM version 1.18.253.2
Radioversion 1.05.02.10
ExtROM version 1.18.253.8011

TorbenKB said:
Hi.
I just bought a Hermes (HTC TyTN), but something is wrong. I have made some registry hacks according to what I could find here, but ie. the "ClearType on rotation" keeps disappering if I soft reset. Also some CAB files seems to install, but I can't find the applications in the device. Not in any menu, not even by using File Explorer!
The device is supposed to be SIM locked (which it's not!), but could it be software locked?? I would not think, that a SIM lock would mean I wouldn't be able to install various things, but I may be wrong.
I really hope someone has some valuable information for me, because it's really annoying!
If anyone could give me some other advises for tuning the little bugg*r I would be very happy!
I had a "softwareunlock.cab" file for my Wizard, but I can't find a simular for the Hermes. Maybe that would do the trick?!
ROM version 1.18.253.2
Radioversion 1.05.02.10
ExtROM version 1.18.253.8011
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Hi TorbenKB
Are you using a file based registry?
Mike

Hi Mike.
I've been trying to edit the "ClearType" registry manually with PHMRegEdit. It didn't work. Then I found a "cleartypeon.CAB" file (probably for Universal, I can't remember). It seemed to work, but I just did a soft reset before I started this thread and it went back to "no" ClearType when in Landscape....

TorbenKB said:
Hi Mike.
I've been trying to edit the "ClearType" registry manually with PHMRegEdit. It didn't work. Then I found a "cleartypeon.CAB" file (probably for Universal, I can't remember). It seemed to work, but I just did a soft reset before I started this thread and it went back to "no" ClearType when in Landscape....
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If you do a soft reset too early, ALL registry changes will disappear, as has also been pointed out in my registry & WM5-related articles (see for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ).
The solution (to be on the safe side): completely power down your phone (by long-pressing the Power button) before soft reset. It'll make the changes will be flushed back to flash ROM.

Menneisyys said:
If you do a soft reset too early, ALL registry changes will disappear, as has also been pointed out in my registry & WM5-related articles (see for example http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ).
The solution (to be on the safe side): completely power down your phone (by long-pressing the Power button) before soft reset. It'll make the changes will be flushed back to flash ROM.
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Hi Menneisyys.
Thank you. I wasn't aware of that, since I haven't had the same problems with my Wizard. I always power off (as in press the powerbutton for a sec or 2) and wait for about 30 seconds before I soft reset.
Do you have any idea why some files suddenly disappears? I would assume that when it's "installed"/saved to the internal storage, it would/should stay there. I mean...a "regular user" wouldn't care about turning everything completely off before soft resetting and should not experience loss of data??!!
Does anyone know if Hermes are or could be software locked? Like I said in the first post, I tried to install some programs, and they are not present at all, though they appear in "Add/remove programs".
I'm running a Danish version of WM5 btw.

TorbenKB said:
Do you have any idea why some files suddenly disappears? I would assume that when it's "installed"/saved to the internal storage, it would/should stay there. I
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I would also assume that. Can you tell us:
1. Does this apply to all your installations and if not give us an example or two of disappearing ones?
2. What location are you installing to?
Mike

mikechannon said:
I would also assume that. Can you tell us:
1. Does this apply to all your installations and if not give us an example or two of disappearing ones?
2. What location are you installing to?
Mike
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Thanks Mike.
Well,... not all. I've installed TomTom6 in Main Memory. But tomtom.exe file and other files from the TomTom directory gets deleted on soft reset, but not everytime. I have phoneAlarm and Spb Diary2 installed in Main memory too. They are fine even after several soft resets.
And... I just did yet another soft reset following the "instructions" from Menneisyys, but ClearType in landscape reg-hack is gone!!!
I usually don't do a lot of soft resets, but it seems my Hermes has a problem with charging in my car, whenever I have been using Active Sync at home. Only solution to that=soft reset...
Man, I'm loosing my patience with this device!!

TorbenKB said:
Thanks Mike.
Well,... not all. I've installed TomTom6 in Main Memory. But tomtom.exe file and other files from the TomTom directory gets deleted on soft reset, but not everytime. I have phoneAlarm and Spb Diary2 installed in Main memory too. They are fine even after several soft resets.
And... I just did yet another soft reset following the "instructions" from Menneisyys, but ClearType in landscape reg-hack is gone!!!
I usually don't do a lot of soft resets, but it seems my Hermes has a problem with charging in my car, whenever I have been using Active Sync at home. Only solution to that=soft reset...
Man, I'm loosing my patience with this device!!
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TorbenKB
Now here's the thing! None of this may be any use to you but may spark some ideas and you may well know or have tried them already:
Regards car charging prob:
Active Sync must be fully closed before charging. i.e using a task manager, say Magic Button or HTC X Button etc and not just using the regular X at top right.
And if you get the Problem: Hermes will only charge when switched off Car Charging problem
Pulling out charger lead (or interrupting power supply) while charging in car (with device on or off ) may result in Hermes only charging while turned off
Possible Solution:
a.) Connect charger with power on
b.) Switch on Hermes
c.) Soft reset whilst connected
Hermes should now charge whilst on or off.
This is more to avoid the situation arising than to give a possible way of dealing with it when it has.
Regards the reverting registry:
Hive Registry (current position)
HKLM\System\ObjectStore] RegistryType=1
Possible change to File based registry
HKLM\System\ObjectStore] RegistryType=0
Soft Reset with application such as Tweaks2k2.
Using the device soft-reset button will remove the change again if you use it for the first reset and it will all have been for nothing!
In this setup reg changes should stick after doing resets.
Another thought is that you may have some corruption caused by the changes that are being made and the "last known good" scenario is being used on boot - see here http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...cgconpersistingdatawithhive-basedregistry.asp
Mike

Hi Mike.
Again, thank you for your information.
I have Active Sync running all the time, since I use Push-mail. However, I will try to close it when I get back in my car later today and see if it charges again.
Btw. I'm already running File based registry. Wasn't sure when you asked earlier.
Tweaks2k2 doesn't work with my OS language. Do you know, if something like Spb PocketPlus ability to soft reset would do the job?
I miss some of the nice apps from the Wizard.. like the RegistryWizard by Nico Dekker.
My problems with the TyTN seems endless.. I just found out that if I turn on WiFi and tries to use PIE, the device will connect via UMTS or GSM, not WiFi!!
Seriously considering returning the TyTN and go back to my Wizard...

TorbenKB said:
Hi Mike.
Again, thank you for your information.
I have Active Sync running all the time, since I use Push-mail. However, I will try to close it when I get back in my car later today and see if it charges again.
Btw. I'm already running File based registry. Wasn't sure when you asked earlier.
Tweaks2k2 doesn't work with my OS language. Do you know, if something like Spb PocketPlus ability to soft reset would do the job?
I miss some of the nice apps from the Wizard.. like the RegistryWizard by Nico Dekker.
My problems with the TyTN seems endless.. I just found out that if I turn on WiFi and tries to use PIE, the device will connect via UMTS or GSM, not WiFi!!
Seriously considering returning the TyTN and go back to my Wizard...
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Mmmm.. sounds like it's getting you down
Afraid I don't know answer re SPb. The PIE thing about not using Wifi has come up and there are solutions but sadly I can't recall what. Will find on this board somewhere.
Depending on how vital some of these issues are, makes a difference as to whether you enjoy the tracking down of solutions. And maybe your right, possibly you have too many issues to enjoy the process. In the end though and despite a hard reset with NO backup the other day I still enjoy this device - but then I never had a Wizard!
Mike

mikechannon said:
Mmmm.. sounds like it's getting you down
Afraid I don't know answer re SPb. The PIE thing about not using Wifi has come up and there are solutions but sadly I can't recall what. Will find on this board somewhere.
Depending on how vital some of these issues are, makes a difference as to whether you enjoy the tracking down of solutions. And maybe your right, possibly you have too many issues to enjoy the process. In the end though and despite a hard reset with NO backup the other day I still enjoy this device - but then I never had a Wizard!
Mike
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Hi Mike.
I will go home and do a hard reset this afternoon. Maybe I'll just use a different ROM version and see if that makes a difference. I suspect that my mobileoperator have made some sort of application lock, which locks down every attempt to change the device..
But thank you very much for your help (and Menneisyys too). I'll search the forum yet another time to see if I can find solutions...
If none of this makes a difference, I'll return the Hermes and cry myself to sleep tonight. ...and in the morning be back with my s-l-o-w Wizard...

Brand new Trinity freezes on soft reset (Green Windows Mobile screen)?

I received my new P3600 last night and played around with it a little. I installed quite a few apps on to the storage card.
Now, what happens is that when I soft reset the device, it keeps on freezing at the green page saying (Windows Mobile - Direct Push Technology). last night I have seen the little spinning thing, now I dont even see this anymore.
Does anyone have the same problem? I am about to return to the device to the seller but want to make sure that really is a device problem rather then anything else.
Any experience with this?

take the manual or use the search for hard reset

tom0_1 said:
take the manual or use the search for hard reset
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well, I keep resetting and eventually the device does start up (out of 10 resets, it works 3 times).
I am wondering though if i should return this one asap. I have had a few devices over the years but never seen a problem like this.
Is resetting a known problem for P3600's?

The error was not the device but one of the applications, I installed.

Glad you're sorted!
Which app was it- as a warning for other users to avoid?

Craic Dub said:
The error was not the device but one of the applications, I installed.
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What was it?

Craic Dub said:
well, I keep resetting and eventually the device does start up (out of 10 resets, it works 3 times).
I am wondering though if i should return this one asap. I have had a few devices over the years but never seen a problem like this.
Is resetting a known problem for P3600's?
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Mine has just done it now. Apparently it is usually an application on the device that is causing problems. I would guess something along the lines of a today plug in or similar.

Trinity Rox
I've had my trinity now for about 2 months.
I just did a hard reset using the clear storage option on a WM6 rom I installed. I ran the "miniSD HC v3.1.zip" fix but my 512 card just vanished on boot up. Came back and saw the card, No problems. A word of warning before you start toying with your new Phone. put "PPCPimBackup" on your storage card and backup all your contacts etc. This app is a life saver.

Hello,
I have the same problem.
What to do?
just boght the p3600 and after using it 2 days i cant restart it.
its stuck whene the screen shows Windows mobile detect push technology.
what to do?
i have WM 5

Anybody heard of this issue?

So yeah, I had my memory card in and was defraging it with Pocket Mechanic. Before I did that, I had cleaned the registry with pocket mechanic as well. i stopped the defrag at like 88%, because I realized the battery was about to die. So, once I hit stop, it took about 5 more minutes to finalize what it had completed. So now, when I try to boot the phone with the memory card in, it gets stuck in a soft reset loop. I'm wondering if it's something as simple as a missing registry key. Anybody have any ideas?

Had a similar problem. Re-flash the rom and you should be good to go.

I was afraid it'd come down to that. lol

tsk tsk
Next time don't perform intensive tasks like backups and defrags while on battery power.
Doug M.
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lol That was a no brainer. Just wasn't thinkin' about it when I started it. I ended up doin' a hard boot though. Oh well. Everything's runnin' nice and clean again.

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neptune said:
well i thought my problem was fized but it has come back again. I am not sure what is causing it but my phone is stuck in a soft reset loop. I have tried a hard reset. I tried flashing to original HTC ROM, I then tried ASergs, and am now back to PDAVIET rom. I thought the problem stemmed from when I tried to install programs to extROM but re-flashing should've taken care of that...no? Any suggestions appreciated.
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SO after falshing the original RUU and not playing arround with the extended_rom didn´t do the trick for you? YOu again got the reboot problem?
Thant´s strange. What software do you have installed?

Well I did a search after my posting and found out that sometimes SkTools doesnt act friendly with PPC's, something to do with notifications or some other nonsense. Tried MemMaid to delete the duplicate notifications but problem still there. Stopped using that completely with the combo of taking out the microSD during boot up did the trick. Quite tedious I know, but I should be able to hold out with this for a little while longer until I can get my hands on a Kaiser. I'm just glad it starts now, been avg. 2 hard resets a day lately.

Hi!! two years after you mad this thread I'm having EXACTLY the same problem!! And it was after the pocket mechanic "cleanup" as well. So far the only workaround is to remove the memcard while booting and wait until wm desktop starts loading. Then I can re insert it without any problems. If anyone has an update on this (I mean without hard resetting) would be really welcome

Phone turns off sometimes when closing keyboard.

Like the title says. It doesn't happen all the time but happens alot. When I slide my keyboard in the phine turns off 60% of the time. Also I noticed when I bumped the phone on my knee at the bottom (Don't asked how I managed to do that ) it just turn off instantly.
Anybody else with this problem? If you don't have this problem let me know 2 please. Maybe its just my device! Thnx.

No my phone does this too; but not as much as yours. It also seemed to happen more when opening the keyboard. I noticed however if I don't open the keyboard quickly then it doesn't seem to do it as much. What I mean is if you push the keyboard open and it pops hard then the phone will shut down.
I think it has something to do with the battery. I have tried putting paper in the battery compartment in hopes that it will apply more pressure to the battery keeping it from sliding. This seemed to help a little but not very much. Best solution I found was to not open it so forcefully. I havn't had it turn off in a couple of months.

A friend of me has the same phone. I tried it with his phone and he doesn't have the problem. He never had it he said. So I called the HTC repair service to send it to them under garuanty and it sounded like they knew the problem. It shouldn't do that. and like you said, I tought it was the battery too but when i remove the battery case and try to move the battery the phone stays on, so I don't think thats the problem but something inside the phone. Maybe some bad contacts. Anyway, they come and pick it up thusday. Maybe I'll get a new one or they fix this one.

I have the same problem
Ocassionally I suppose as I haven't observed carefully, when I close the keyboard the phones powers off. Not sure what the problem is, haven't really read any thread on this kind of an issue. Does anybody have a solution without sending it back to the support center.

I have the same problem...it seems that there is somewhere a bad contact, I do not believe its a "loose" battery. Anyway, I will tell the repair shop as now also my touch screen does not respond anymore...
I had an Qtek 9000 for almost 2 years, never had any problems with it!
NOT very impressed with this thing...
Ciao

Eeehm, I called the repair center and they were about to come and pick it up. so i did a hard reset to delete all my stuff.... and now it doesnt power off anymore. Wich is really strange cause it looked like a hardware problem cause when i bumped the phone it also turned off.

Jewcookie - My phone also resets when I close it too forcefully or give it a good bump. After your hard reset did you re-install your prior software? If so, did the problem persist or did it disappear?

Choptank
I've been having a similar problem with my HTC branded Herald. (winmob 6)
The phone seems to behave normally until I open and close the keyboard.
A few minutes later, when I push the power button to exit sleep mode, nothing happens. I have to soft reset in order to get the phone operating again. During the time it is locked up, the phone doesn't ring and no calls show up as notifications. The fellow I spoke with today at HTC support said he hadn't heard of this happening before. He recommended a hard reset. Hoping to try a few other things first. Has anyone else with this problem had any luck resolving it?
Thanks C.T.

Still trapped in Sleep Mode!
Just a follow up to my previous post, it now seems that the phone locks in sleep mode after I have accessed files on the memory card. Two days ago I moved all Today plugin programs to device memory (except Pocket Weather, too large!) in order to see if that was the problem. Phone worked fine for two days, no lock-ups. Yesterday the only thing I did differently was access an Excel document from the micro SD card. I then put the pnone in sleep mode. About 10 minutes later when I needed to make a call, it wouldn't come out of sleep mode without a soft reset. Also I had scanned and re-formatted the memorycard, no apparent problems.
Anybody else dealing with a similar problem?

2 Jewcookie - met welk reperatiecentrum heb jij contact opgenomen dat ze hem komen ophalen? want mij zeiden ze dat ik hem moest opsturen, maar dat kost me teveel tijd.
grzz Clint

i had the same problem one time with it turning off when i closed the keyboard. it happened when i was playing with the battery. I just took the battery out and re-seated it securely and it fixed it.
Do you have a factory battery or an aftermarket one? if it is an aftermarket one then it might not fit as perfect as the regular one. I got spare thats a little bigger than stock. Might help in your case.

I have a stock battery. Not looking forward to doing it, though it looks like I will do a hard reset and then use my Herald completely stock for a few days and see if the "stuck in sleep mode" problem goes away. Then I'll load my third party software one by one and see if I can isolate the app. that is causing the problem. I'll post the result. May take a few days.

Keyboard issues
choptank said:
I have a stock battery. Not looking forward to doing it, though it looks like I will do a hard reset and then use my Herald completely stock for a few days and see if the "stuck in sleep mode" problem goes away. Then I'll load my third party software one by one and see if I can isolate the app. that is causing the problem. I'll post the result. May take a few days.
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Choptank- did you find out if it was software or hardware issue?? Mine just started happening and mine is stock!!!

As it turns out, the cause of my lock up problem turned out to be unrelated to opening and closing the keyboard. The actual problem was a Today screen plugin. When I disabled the plugin, the problem went away. It took me quite a while to discover this as the program (Pocket Weather) is one of my favorites and I really didn't want to disable the plugin. I'm hoping that maybe a future version of the program will work better on my device.
CT

Guys, I too was having this problem. But, in my case it came out to be a software problem. To summarize, these were the apps that can probably do that..
1) sbsh pocketbreeze
2) sbsh ilauncher
3) spb diary
4) spb p+(frequency was too low though)
It seems as if these apps demand more juice sometimes which causes device to reboot. I have been a huge supporter of the sbsh products but I'm not using them anymore. Currently I dont use any of the aforementioned apps and have not encountered a single unwanted reboot so far.

Troubles....
kdskamal said:
Guys, I too was having this problem. But, in my case it came out to be a software problem. To summarize, these were the apps that can probably do that..
1) sbsh pocketbreeze
2) sbsh ilauncher
3) spb diary
4) spb p+(frequency was too low though)
It seems as if these apps demand more juice sometimes which causes device to reboot. I have been a huge supporter of the sbsh products but I'm not using them anymore. Currently I dont use any of the aforementioned apps and have not encountered a single unwanted reboot so far.
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Here's what I have Kdskamal:
WM5 (Hera 100, unlocked from factory w/t mobile)
OMAP console/ckr
Opera Mini (deleted recently) and now pages lock up
vTap Videos
Ygo! Mobile
One Note Mobile
As stated above, I deleted opera mini: since the deletion, I've had these problems and I have soft reseted twice. Should I hard reset

taz357 said:
Here's what I have Kdskamal:
WM5 (Hera 100, unlocked from factory w/t mobile)
OMAP console/ckr
Opera Mini (deleted recently) and now pages lock up
vTap Videos
Ygo! Mobile
One Note Mobile
As stated above, I deleted opera mini: since the deletion, I've had these problems and I have soft reseted twice. Should I hard reset
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Well, you should definately consider doing a hard reset and install some nice clean WM6.1 rom. try the ones from aserg(the lite ones).

WM6.1
kdskamal said:
Well, you should definately consider doing a hard reset and install some nice clean WM6.1 rom. try the ones from aserg(the lite ones).
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kdskamal,
WM6.1 now is this a personal (cooked) upgrade?? im leery of WM6 because of its numerous problems when it first came out.

Seems to be the Battery
I have seven batteries for my alltel ppc6800 (titan, mogul, etc.). My phone completely loses powers when I use the orig. battery that came with the device and one other battery I bought on ebay sometimes when I slide out or slide in the keyboard letting the spring loaded feature do its job. It seems not to happen when I guide it open and close with my hand. One trick that did seem to work was taking an eraser and cleaning the leads on the battery and the phone, however it may work well for another couple of weeks but has the same problem sooner or later. Still, I never charge my phone and I am an insomniac and am always up using my phone so I need the batteries.

Stuck at Windows Mobile loading Screen (Backup power ??)

As weird as it may sound, my prophet is not loading up successfully since this morning. It was working well until last night and for no reason seems to have lost it's way.
I see the Splash screen with the IPL / SPL etc. information and then it proceeds into the blue Windows Mobile Screen (Windows loading screen) and doesn't get any further.
Has anyone faced a similar problem earlier and have a resolution to it. I do not want to Hard Reset my device at the moment.
I had this problem last time but it worked after n soft resets. I'm sure today I have far exceeded that number n in doing a soft reset on my device. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Umesh.
O2 Neo (WM5)

Feasibility of a probable solution
Read this solution on another forum and thought of bringing it up for discussion here.
It said that these PDA phones have backup power source probably as a battery / capacitor to store ROM data in absence of the main battery. In case of situations like mine where the boot sequence is probably hitting a deadlock or some other problem , it might work to drain the back up battery / capacitor completely.
This might force the PDA to look for a fresh boot sequence or default.
Is this a possibility ? Do the senior members / experts here believe or know anything about this. I feel it's worth a discussion, if so.
Thanks,
Umesh.

The probable solution!!!
Hi
I had almost the same problem and I guess you maight have done the same mistake.Have you newly installed any weather forcasting programs which install some plugins into your TODAY SCREEN?If yes,it is the one which is responsible for your failure.(Many of plugin installers in today screen may cause the sme problem)
Hope you can succeed with resolving it.

puzzled
Have you tried start up minus the SD card...?

amiromario said:
Hi
I had almost the same problem and I guess you maight have done the same mistake.Have you newly installed any weather forcasting programs which install some plugins into your TODAY SCREEN?If yes,it is the one which is responsible for your failure.(Many of plugin installers in today screen may cause the sme problem)
Hope you can succeed with resolving it.
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I did install the HTC Home Plugin but I'm also sure that did not cause the problem cause I had it running great for about 3 weeks now. The last software I tried installing on my device was Merriam-Websters pocket pc dictionary. It had some flash card feature which ran at start up and to my surprise the morning (without restart) before my cell went into the struggling mode. But unless it reloads itself, I cannot do anything about any of the softwares.
How did you resolve the same problem with your device. Did you also have to do hard reset ?

Rivendell63 said:
Have you tried start up minus the SD card...?
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I have tried with and without the SD Card - that had got my prophet working last time I had this problem but unfortunately, this time not. I even tried pulling it off at different intervals while the cell is stuck in the load mode, but to no luck.

You'd better to...
umesh said:
I did install the HTC Home Plugin but I'm also sure that did not cause the problem cause I had it running great for about 3 weeks now. The last software I tried installing on my device was Merriam-Websters pocket pc dictionary. It had some flash card feature which ran at start up and to my surprise the morning (without restart) before my cell went into the struggling mode. But unless it reloads itself, I cannot do anything about any of the softwares.
How did you resolve the same problem with your device. Did you also have to do hard reset ?
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Hi
Actually,I installed a POCKET WEATHER, a weather forecasting program which installs some plugins on today sceern.Then my problems with the device(same as your)started to appear.I waited for 2 or three days,but finally I found the solution in removing it from my device.Once I deleted it,my device returned back to its great condition that it had before.I guess, you should ignore and put away those programs which leave a trace in today screen.Don't ask me why(Cause I don't know that much!!! )but I heard about some subsequent problems with your rom's cash, or something.You'd better removing them and I hope they will help you to solve the problem.

I did not have any luck and had to hard reset my device. I had not done it even once since I brought this handset about a year ago and am only glad to have done this now. Just realised how slow my device was working with all the software installs and uninstalls I had experimented with it over the year.
I did loose some data - but in the end a fair trade off.

hard reset keys dont work
Hi! i got the same problem, i installed an updated TouchFlo in my phone, but it hangs at start up, so i tryed to hard reset the phone, BUT my phone is a chinese clone of pharos 3470 / dopod P660 and the hard reset keys dont work (camera + power + reset) i have been trying diferent combinations of keys but i cant find any solution.
does anyone know a possible way to hard reset a phone?
i did it before, but from inside the windows settings and it worked well, but i cant do it with the keys, and i cant get in windows settings when it is stucked at startup
please help!