My 3600 is struggling...Pls help - P3600 General

This is my 3rd time that I have met this situation again
My 3600 is not able to boot into the "today" screen while I turn on my 3600
It stops at the screen of " Windows mobile "
Apart from hard reset, any solutions?
thanks bro!!

matttse said:
This is my 3rd time that I have met this situation again
My 3600 is not able to boot into the "today" screen while I turn on my 3600
It stops at the screen of " Windows mobile "
Apart from hard reset, any solutions?
thanks bro!!
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Try reflashing the ROM or switching ROMs.
I suppose you have HardSPL installed, it shouldn't be any problem!
In case you have any questions, please consult the Trinity Guides and the Wiki. There is also a Wiki page referring to SD Card flashing (my personal favorite which I recommend).

tnyynt said:
Try reflashing the ROM or switching ROMs.
I suppose you have HardSPL installed, it shouldn't be any problem!
In case you have any questions, please consult the Trinity Guides and the Wiki. There is also a Wiki page referring to SD Card flashing (my personal favorite which I recommend).
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Thanks for your explanation. How can I get that file mentioned in "SD Card Flashing" Also, I haven't got Hard SPL

matttse said:
Thanks for your explanation. How can I get that file mentioned in "SD Card Flashing" Also, I haven't got Hard SPL
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You find everything at the guides and Wiki I mentioned above!

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HARD SPL INSTALL FROM SD-CARD...help needed

Hi there,
I need to install hard SPL from the tri-color siutation. Therefore the installation should be performed by the use of SD-card.
I can read good guides on how to install hard spl through active sync, but not by the use of the SD card. Anybody who can help me?
Thank you.
Michel
This was a easy one to find. Please try the Search functions within this site. here is what I think you are looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384084&highlight=flash+SD
I allready saw that one, but it didn't work. I searched quite a lot. Nothing helped.
In the end, I found the solution (for anybody who has the same problem):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403883&highlight=tri+color
Read it very well and do as it is said in the desciption (also read the 'sub-link'!!!).
Greetz,
Michel
bkeaver said:
This was a easy one to find. Please try the Search functions within this site. here is what I think you are looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384084&highlight=flash+SD
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mewsijben said:
In the end, I found the solution (for anybody who has the same problem):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403883&highlight=tri+color
Michel
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I don't understand this post.
The question was: "How to install HardSPL from the micro-SDHC card"
This still isn't answered, only how to flash a ROM *.nbh file from the card, which we already knew.
So, the initial question - HardSPL from the card - remains in limbo ?
Later edit: unless it means that renaming HardSPL nbh file to POLAIMG.nbh and flashing off the card in Bootloader mode worked for someone ?
You can't install HardSPL from SD-card...
You need your device synchronized...read more this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375338
your PDA *MUST* be in WM and happily synced with the PC BEFORE running each new step.
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cheers!
ouioui01 said:
You can't install HardSPL from SD-card...
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That's my experience as well. WinXP is needed on the PC

P800 rom flashing problem

I have an unbranded Chinese P800 from eBay and would like to upgrade it to WM 6.0. What I have onboard :
1. WM 5.0 OS 5.1.525 (Build 15364.3.4.4)
2. Processor ARM926T OMAP730
However, one perculiar thing is that I can't find any Device Info on IPL, SPL, Radio ROM etc. I've tried using WST 4.2.2 but to no avail. I'm using my Lenovo S10 Netbook running XP and ASync 4.5. What I've managed to do are :
1. Run USPL, it goes from 0.. to 60.. and hangs, I reset my P800, USPL resumes to 70..100 and the RUU program starts,
2. the screen on my P800 turns dark with the Linux Penguin and some message of mapping, preloader etc comes on temporarily before Windows comes on again,
3. RUU runs, upgrading to image 9.99 (original image is blank-no info), when UPDATE ROM IMAGE ON YOUR PDA PHONE comes on it never gets to more than 0% (no blue progress bar), my P800 screen goes dark, loses connection and I get ERROR(260).
I have done this several times and there is no way I can verify if the CID is unlocked as I can't get the SPL info anywhere. So I will appreciate any help I can get. Thanks in advance.
Hi Salimbs,
Have a look at these two posts:
* Regarding the CID unlock for Artemis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667
* Regarding the error 260
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293085&highlight=error+260
Hope this will solve your problem
mouse.co.nr said:
Hi Salimbs,
Have a look at these two posts:
* Regarding the CID unlock for Artemis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667
* Regarding the error 260
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293085&highlight=error+260
Hope this will solve your problem
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Hi mouse.co.nr,
Many thanks for your reply and pointing to the right direction. I'll get to it asap and post the outcome (success I hope!)
Hi Salimbs,
just another note,
in the past I found myself in big trouble (not with Himalaya as it was SD flashed) but with Charmer and Magician ROM updates, also with ROMs that I have already used in the past and classified as stable,
Roms used to get blocked during upgrade leaving me in Boot mode if I don't remember bad..
I have noticed that this error was common when Ms. Office applications like for sxample Word or Excel was turned on!
it makes like a kind of disturb to the rom!
once closed (all office and not necessary applications) roms updates smooth and bug free!
Don't remember if it was an Err 260 or not, I just remember that update blocked at a certain point...
try to do your upgrades with office turned off!
wish it will help to solve your problem
X-Mouse
mouse.co.nr said:
Hi Salimbs,
just another note,
in the past I found myself in big trouble (not with Himalaya as it was SD flashed) but with Charmer and Magician ROM updates, also with ROMs that I have already used in the past and classified as stable,
Roms used to get blocked during upgrade leaving me in Boot mode if I don't remember bad..
I have noticed that this error was common when Ms. Office applications like for sxample Word or Excel was turned on!
it makes like a kind of disturb to the rom!
once closed (all office and not necessary applications) roms updates smooth and bug free!
Don't remember if it was an Err 260 or not, I just remember that update blocked at a certain point...
try to do your upgrades with office turned off!
wish it will help to solve your problem
X-Mouse
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Hi mouse.co.nr,
Well noted and I'll keep this in mind. From your experience have you ever tried the SDHC.cab so that your phone can read the micro SDHC? I ran it in my phone and now my STORAGE CARD is gone! Anyway, thanks again. Cheers!
Not SDHC my friend but Artemis SDHC,
I don't know what is exactly the difference, maybe one is for big SD and the other is for MicroSD, anyway I've tried the one for artemis and now I'm working with a 8 GB micro sd, and it can go till 16 GB.
I've tried that with other artemis ROM versions and works very good...
For your problem have a look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345038;
and download the programs indicated below...
What I advice you to do is the following:
1) remove your SDHC card (it have a sort of bad luck with any upgrade that needs a reboot)
2) copy SDHC_Artemis_back2original.cab to your documents folder (PPC documents obviously) then run it, soft reset.
3) then copy the correct SD HC for artemis "SDHC-Artemis.cab ", in the same way of the above and run it.
this shuld work "I wish for you"
let me know..
how about the ROM update? did you succeed at the end?
have you also updated also GSM radio ROM? generally original roms come with a 2.11.... version, old and not always good in reception!
I advice to change it in 03.18.90 shall work well also with your provider, for GSM signal WIFI, GPRS and GPS..
have a look at this post for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397939
X-Mouse
mouse.co.nr said:
Not SDHC my friend but Artemis SDHC,
I don't know what is exactly the difference, maybe one is for big SD and the other is for MicroSD, anyway I've tried the one for artemis and now I'm working with a 8 GB micro sd, and it can go till 16 GB.
I've tried that with other artemis ROM versions and works very good...
For your problem have a look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345038;
and download the programs indicated below...
What I advice you to do is the following:
1) remove your SDHC card (it have a sort of bad luck with any upgrade that needs a reboot)
2) copy SDHC_Artemis_back2original.cab to your documents folder (PPC documents obviously) then run it, soft reset.
3) then copy the correct SD HC for artemis "SDHC-Artemis.cab ", in the same way of the above and run it.
this shuld work "I wish for you"
let me know..
how about the ROM update? did you succeed at the end?
have you also updated also GSM radio ROM? generally original roms come with a 2.11.... version, old and not always good in reception!
I advice to change it in 03.18.90 shall work well also with your provider, for GSM signal WIFI, GPRS and GPS..
have a look at this post for more details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397939
X-Mouse
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Hi Mouse,
Thanks to you my STORAGE CARD problem is solved! However with regards to my ROM update I'm still a little confused.I've managed to patch the artemis_jumpSPL_pof_v1.nb using Kermit the Frog(jumpSPL.exe). After that I run the RUU again but I still get the same result-0%Can you tell me how or show me the relevant threads?
Hello Salimbs,
Kermit sounds funny but it's the first time I don't know how does it work!!
try the ufficial SPL unlocker for artemis, nothing more,
download from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403
* Connect your PPC through Active Sync (connection shall be established),
* Run start_uspl.exe from the Artemis_USPL package in the link above,
* Run till it reachs 100% and Dos Window turns off alone, and launches RUU upgrade interface..yes, yes, continue, continue.... 100%
* After device shall have SPL 1.11 and so you can load new ROMs
let me know if it will solve the problem..
X-Mouse
mouse.co.nr said:
Hello Salimbs,
Kermit sounds funny but it's the first time I don't know how does it work!!
try the ufficial SPL unlocker for artemis, nothing more,
download from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311403
* Connect your PPC through Active Sync (connection shall be established),
* Run start_uspl.exe from the Artemis_USPL package in the link above,
* Run till it reachs 100% and Dos Window turns off alone, and launches RUU upgrade interface..yes, yes, continue, continue.... 100%
* After device shall have SPL 1.11 and so you can load new ROMs
let me know if it will solve the problem..
X-Mouse
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Hi mouse,
Actually "Kermit the Frog" is the icon for JumpSPL.exe. Anyway, like I've mentioned in my first post everything seems OK except that I can't check for the SPL and when the RUU runs it never gets to more than 0% and then I lose connection and get ERROR 260. I'll be trying again and let you know of the outcome. Once again, thank you, I really appreciate your help!
salimbs.
Hi Salimbs,
sorry for hearing that...
try to enable RAPI before USPL!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320155
Remove SDHC card (and uninstall SDHC software from ppc)
Then USPL
Then Rom Update Utility
mouse.co.nr said:
Hi Salimbs,
sorry for hearing that...
try to enable RAPI before USPL!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320155
Remove SDHC card (and uninstall SDHC software from ppc)
Then USPL
Then Rom Update Utility
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Hi Mouse,
I'm open to all suggestion. I'll try it again and we'll see. Thanks.
I'm afraid that I've not met with any success after trying all the combination and tricks mentioned in this thread. Every time at the part of the RUU flashing it never goes beyond 0% then I lose connection and get ERROR 260. I would appreciate any help I can get, and thank you in advance.
Hallo,
i have got a p800 from china and have the same problems. I tried all things but the update doesnt work. The connection always interupts with err260.
regards

Anyone in this community able to answer this question? - EDIT! - problem solved!

After emailing back and forth with the HTC support team about the Leo's "too loud ear piece" and after asking me a million questions they finally sent me the Debug tool 3.4 to run it in my Leo and send them the logfile.
Well the stupid application it's been running for days and never seems to stop. It did create some 20 DM files on my SD card which can't be seen in explorer anymore. I put it into a card reader to see what's happening.
I hard reseted my Leo to stop the debugging tool but no use, I reflashed, taken out the sd card, but nu use the darn thing still runs and kills my battery! WIFI doesn't work either!!!
What should I do?
Please help!!!
G
hard reset
The only solution that always works
funny but not helpful!
thimiost said:
The only solution that always works
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If you have the answer just give it to me! Trust me I've searched every possible forum!
Regards,
G
wmfreak said:
If you have the answer just give it to me! Trust me I've searched every possible forum!
Regards,
G
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you must read carefully it is hard reset
he just told you m8 perform a hard reset on the device
I guess nobody read my post!
evo6 said:
he just told you m8 perform a hard reset on the device
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If look carefully it does say that I've hard reseted, reflashed with different rom including cooked rom but same problem!!!
any help?
regards,
G
Format Your sdcard. the file must be on there if youve reflashed
Done that too!
fards said:
Format Your sdcard. the file must be on there if youve reflashed
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I even swapped SD cards, formatted them you name it I've done it!
Please share your wisdom if you have an answer!!!
PS debug tool 3.4 is what's causing the problem!
Are you doing a hard reset without your sd card inserted?..
If the answer is yes, then try..
format your sd card, then flash a new rom using goldcard method.... it is virtually impossible for the file to stay storaged in the sd (after format) or the device (beacuse u did format it when doing the flashing process).
In makes sense but!
doctorcete said:
Are you doing a hard reset without your sd card inserted?..
If the answer is yes, then try..
format your sd card, then flash a new rom using goldcard method.... it is virtually impossible for the file to stay storaged in the sd (after format) or the device (beacuse u did format it when doing the flashing process).
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I've reflashed even without SD (upgrade ROM 1.48 from 1.43) and the stupid and the Htclog folder is still iin File explorer under MyDevice working hard at creatinf log files!!!
I've tried to rerun the stupid Debug tool 3.4 but it says "Fail to read MFG area (6)" all the time!
I'm desperate! Pls Help!!!
G
wmfreak said:
I've reflashed even without SD (upgrade ROM 1.48 from 1.43) and the stupid and the Htclog folder is still iin File explorer under MyDevice working hard at creatinf log files!!!
I've tried to rerun the stupid Debug tool 3.4 but it says "Fail to read MFG area (6)" all the time!
I'm desperate! Pls Help!!!
G
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I know hard reset should have helped, but try letting the phone empty and then remove the battery for a couple of hours-day, then try it agian.
Mabey I don't get the question but.. how come it's still working with the debugging tool while the phone is flashed? The debugging tool is prob. placed on a special sector of the main memory normaly not accessed by a rom, the program it self doesn't run from normal memory sectors, so you might have a try with a SPL update/overwright. If all fails send it back, why would htc give you this program? they allways say send it back and you'll get a new one?...
please post the tool, might give some insight after disasm. MFG area is interesting.
It's been written to special memory place.
Again, please post the tool you were given
how are you doing a hard reset?, are you using the clean memory tool software on your device, or are u pressing vol up and down simultaneously while powering on the device...... I just dont get how the program stays in memory after hard reset, even after flashing.
lucid said:
please post the tool, might give some insight after disasm. MFG area is interesting.
It's been written to special memory place.
Again, please post the tool you were given
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yes, please post it.
if i "pdocread.exe -l" i find a 20MB-partition seperately.
could you post this part too?
okokur
Here is the tool! (BTW i fixed the problem)
okokur said:
yes, please post it.
if i "pdocread.exe -l" i find a 20MB-partition seperately.
could you post this part too?
okokur
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I've attached the toll. I finally got rid of it by being able to rerun the program (which i prior tried a million times) and rewrite the parametres to "0" instead of 435 and 401. Give it a go if you know what you're doing and you can read log files.
regards,
G
You got rid of it. I edit out the post
Solution:
First backup your SD, after format with FAT32 .... reinstall your ROM and after insert your SD.
got dmmnit, glad u got rid of it, maybe we can learn how it.doez stick to the rom like that n use it in other apps like smartprotect. congrats!:
hi, do u mind sharing how u got rid of it?
I run this tool too, but after have no way to stop first try to read forum. Solution to stop program already is given from wmfreak. It is not need to make hard reset or to reformat SD card. Only things to do is to run program one more time and:
wmfreak said:
I finally got rid of it by being able to rerun the program (which i prior tried a million times) and rewrite the parametres to "0" instead of 435 and 401.
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Thank you wmfreak

My HD2 is very unstable with different ROMS. Help please

Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.
tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me
willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before
Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...
mtty may help u out
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!
Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS
gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.
use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.

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Hi,
Most to all android ROMs I try all boot into splash screen and then it goes black and the phone boots into wm.
I'm using haret.exe on sd card,
Stock wm
Stock hspl
Stock radio 2.14
What is the problem?
Thanks,
Alex
alex.odell.2011 said:
Hi,
Most to all android ROMs I try all boot into splash screen and then it goes black and the phone boots into wm.
I'm using haret.exe on sd card,
Stock wm
Stock hspl
Stock radio 2.14
What is the problem?
Thanks,
Alex
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Are you using clrcad.exe first?
Have you tried factory reset, in WinMo?
FORUM RULES
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3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
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Next time, please title your thread descriptively. "[Q]" is not very descriptive .
Even if you didn't read the rules, IT IS COMMON SENSE TO MAKE A TITLE FOR YOUR THREAD. Thank you.
Back on topic,
I see you have mentioned "Stock HSPL" and "Stock Radio" . Haven't you tried changing these?
First, I'd recommend installing HSPL 2.08.HSPL .
And make sure that what you have is really radio 2.14, and not for example 2.06.14_55 or something like that, I'd also recommend using either 2.15 or 2.12.
[P.S. : The Black Screen was a common issue of sd android builds that was usually related to the radio, assuming your information are correct, you shouldn't be having a problem]
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sean is here. said:
Are you using clrcad.exe first?
Have you tried factory reset, in WinMo?
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clrcad.exe is only to enable sound, if the ROM is not booting without it, it is not going to boot with it.
Marvlesz said:
Next time, please title your thread descriptively. "[Q]" is not very descriptive .
Even if you didn't read the rules, IT IS COMMON SENSE TO MAKE A TITLE FOR YOUR THREAD. Thank you.
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Couldn't agree more, c'mon people, in the words of Jeremy Clarkson, how hard can it be? Also, try flashing HSPL2.08 then a custom ROM with Radio 2.15. For me flashing a custom ROM solved many of the issues I had originally with some of the Gingerbread Sense SD ROMs (I used to get FCs all the time [literally a constant stream of them] but these stopped after this.
Alternatively, you could just flash NAND Android.
Same prob here
alex.odell.2011 said:
Hi,
Most to all android ROMs I try all boot into splash screen and then it goes black and the phone boots into wm.
I'm using haret.exe on sd card,
Stock wm
Stock hspl
Stock radio 2.14
What is the problem?
Thanks,
Alex
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Same problem here.
I will try to describe mine, and probably my friend's case too
I have flashed the 2.08 HSPL and have radio 2.15.XX.XX (But it is the 576 MB radio and it is the newest.)
The problem is that i click clrcad and Haret and then somesmall text appears and then i have a black HTC screen and then my Phone reboots
So what can i do ?
I have "SPL 3.00..... and not HSPL... could this cause a problem, I am using SD as I dont wish to brick phone,
Thanks for you help, added radio 2.15.50.14
WM OS: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila: 2.5.20181527.0
ROM: 3.14.405.2 (04666) WWE
Some ROMs now boot others still the same problem...
alex.odell.2011 said:
I have "SPL 3.00..... and not HSPL... could this cause a problem, I am using SD as I dont wish to brick phone,
Thanks for you help, added radio 2.15.50.14
WM OS: 5.2.21913 (21913.5.0.94)
Manila: 2.5.20181527.0
ROM: 3.14.405.2 (04666) WWE
Some ROMs now boot others still the same problem...
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No, HSPL doesn't affect SD Android so you're fine there.
So it must be the radio or WM then,
Would using a boot loader application help the problem?
Thanks,
Alex
Done It At Last!
I have found the solution!!!
I was downloading the ROM and extracting to my desktop, then opening the android folder and copying the contents to the SD card root.
You need to keep the ROM in the Android folder that it comes with and put that in the root of the SD card!
Hope this helps my friend with the same problem...
Thanks guys for your help,
Alex
alex.odell.2011 said:
I have found the solution!!!
I was downloading the ROM and extracting to my desktop, then opening the android folder and copying the contents to the SD card root.
You need to keep the ROM in the Android folder that it comes with and put that in the root of the SD card!
Hope this helps my friend with the same problem...
Thanks guys for your help,
Alex
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Sooo, it works when you follow the instructions?
Rocket science.
alex.odell.2011 said:
I have found the solution!!!
I was downloading the ROM and extracting to my desktop, then opening the android folder and copying the contents to the SD card root.
You need to keep the ROM in the Android folder that it comes with and put that in the root of the SD card!
Hope this helps my friend with the same problem...
Thanks guys for your help,
Alex
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Whoa, reading the instructions helped you? Insane!!! Others should try that too
sean is here. said:
Sooo, it works when you follow the instructions?
Rocket science.
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Most ROMs say extract contents into SD Card Root; not just copy the whole folder; its unclear; no need to get sarcastic!
Nigeldg said:
Whoa, reading the instructions helped you? Insane!!! Others should try that too
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And you two, less of the sarcasm!
alex.odell.2011 said:
Most ROMs say extract contents into SD Card Root; not just copy the whole folder; its unclear; no need to get sarcastic!
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In all fairness, I only flashed about 5-10 SD ROMs on my old HD2. I wound up sticking with Americandroid.
1. americanandroid.7z -> unzip!
2. copy folder unzipped\AmeriCanAndroid\Android -> to -> \sdcard\Android
(COPY THE WHOLE FOLDER.. NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL FILES!!!!!!)
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Still though, I always followed instructions and never really had problems
Sorry to be a smartass, I just enjoy being witty.
alex.odell.2011 said:
And you two, less of the sarcasm!
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Banter, the justification of all unnecessary rudeness Sorry

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