Split Power and keep microphone/headset on jack/usb - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Accessories

I've got several splitters but the one thing I can't seem to find is this: split the Kaiser output between USB for power and to a female jack or usb that allows a microphone headset to be put inline. This is not the same as using a splitter that gives a 3.5mm jack with a built in microphone.
The reason is I need to power my Kaiser on the motorbike, while supplying a duplex for my helmet headset that has a microphone/earpiece built in supplied by a male jack. (I.e the male jack carries voice and sound).
thanks.

http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=148544
but you may need a extUSB -> 3.5mm jack or whatever type of headset you use
expansys have those 2

Ahh, that's great. You're right I will need a usb to female jack that keeps the mic/ear available.

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mini USB adapter to minijack

I drive a prius with an AUX adapter (accepts a minjack) does anyone know of a cable that is a mini USB to mini jack?
Thanks!
you need a male USB to female 3.5mm adapter. Often, they come as male USB to both female 3.5mm and female USB. Many, many sites have them. Search for "USB audio splitter" or somthing like that.
Once you have one of those, you need a standard male 3.5mm to male 3.5mm headphone cable.
I have never seen a male USB to male 3.5mm cable.
Also, indicating which country you are in when asking where to buy something often helps, this is an international forum
Be aware that not all mini USB accessories work with the Kaiser. Some have the connector pins on the top, some on the bottom. You think that would be universal (thats what the "U" in USB stand for, you know!), but its not. And if you buy an accesory w. the wrong pin layout, it won't work.
I have read this is the case with some headsets, so the adapters may be the same case. Try to buy one that specifically says that it works with the Kaiser (or at least other HTC phones).
evilc said:
you need a male USB to female 3.5mm adapter. Often, they come as male USB to both female 3.5mm and female USB. Many, many sites have them. Search for "USB audio splitter" or somthing like that.
Once you have one of those, you need a standard male 3.5mm to male 3.5mm headphone cable.
I have never seen a male USB to male 3.5mm cable.
Also, indicating which country you are in when asking where to buy something often helps, this is an international forum
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Sorry...I'm in the US.
Hey Griffin911, from one Prius driver to another.
Try http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=776
Then you will just need a male to male 3.5 mm adapter which you should be able to find at any Radio Shack. I am using this Seidio adapter with a set of Shure earbuds with my Kaiser and it works fine.
I haven't tried it on the Pruis's aux port yet, I travel through the week and haven't had as much time to play with it as I'd like. I'll do it when I get home Friday and post to this thread to let you know how it works.
I have paired the phone with the car via Bluetooth and transferred contacts fine (although transferring contacts is one at a time) and calls work fine as well.
I tried the Seidio adapter with the M to M 3.5 mm to the Aux jack on the Prius and it worked fine. I also ran the Odyssey nav software while playing MP3's through TCPMP and that worked fine. Only problem was the volume on the nav software was too loud when TCPMP was at the right volume, the volume controls don't work independently.
Didn't especially care for the Odyssey software (running the 14 day trial right now) the one route I mapped gave me a really weird route. I'll try the rest of the weekend and see how it works, but it's also not extremely intuituve from what I've seen so far.
redpoint73 said:
Be aware that not all mini USB accessories work with the Kaiser. Some have the connector pins on the top, some on the bottom. You think that would be universal (thats what the "U" in USB stand for, you know!), but its not. And if you buy an accesory w. the wrong pin layout, it won't work.
I have read this is the case with some headsets, so the adapters may be the same case. Try to buy one that specifically says that it works with the Kaiser (or at least other HTC phones).
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It's not universal because ExtUSB is a proprietary extension to the USB standard.
Anything involving analog audio is NOT covered by the USB standard.

USB Mini to (the other) USB Mini (?)

I have a a USB mini extension lead, so I'm trying to plug in a 3-to-1 adapter to it. So male USB mini, the a-symetrical type (flat one side) to a female USB mini, the symetrical type (wings on both sides). Obviously this doesn't fit!
So is there a USB Mini (female a-symetrical) to USB mini (male symetrical) adapter?
Or could someone at least tell me their proper names so I can google it?
What are you trying to achieve? If it is to increase the cable length between the 3in1 and the Kaiser, I think you would need an ExtUSB patch lead with all 11 pins wired to retain the functionality of the 3in1. I don't know if these leads even exist.
The Asymetrical female socket, like the one on the base of the Kaiser, is double sided on the internal plastic "island" and has 5 contacts on one side and 6 contacts on the other.
The power and data are on the top 5 connectors.
The audio in/out & talk/end are on the bottom 6 connectors.
This is known as ExtUSB and is peculiar to HTC devices.
The Symetrical plug/socket is standard mini USB and will only ever have power and data connections. The mini USB plug only connects to the top 5 connectors in an ExtUSB socket.
Ouch, my dreams of the perfect in-car system dashed! Thanks wizzard that's really explained it very well.
The objective is to have a nice looking car install with only one wire leading to the Kaiser, and the 3-in-one hidden. So ideally:
Power \/
Audio > 3-in-one >> USB extension >> Kaiser
Hands free /\
It was hard enough finding the mini USB extension, so as you say an ExtUSB extension lead may not even exist
I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.
Thanks Wizzard. Not a bad solution, and the best so far without the existence of an ExtUSB extension lead.
My only problem with it is that (I assume) it forces the kaiser into handfree mode even when all I was to do is charge and listen to music from the 3.5mm connection.
Again, I am assuming here, but I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port. I could be wrong on that one though.
Perhaps my issue is a small price to pay for 8gbs of music in the car
foaf said:
I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port.
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I dont have the bulky 3in1 to test, sorry. For me when listening to music and TomTom the audio mutes when I take a call and then resumes seamlessly on hang up without needing to physically touch the Kaiser. I only need to touch the Kaiser to press the Voice Command key once to launch programs and initiate calls.
wizzzard said:
I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.
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Hi!
Unfortunately the link to the item you have is broken...
I'm trying exactly what you wanna do, I bought this extension.
Is this the same of you?
It works, but I have annoying noise on audio when it's connected to the USB power jacket.
How to fix this?
Thanks a lot.

Usb to mini jack

Hi,
I just got an usb to mini jack cable but when i play audio it plays via the speaker and not the headphones.
is the cable not supported or do i need to change a setting somewhere
If i use the headphones that were with the phone they work.
But not my new usb to mini jack with my own headphones.
I also have a bleutooth unit but this uses mini-mini jack, and i twas supplied with a headphone inc Mic, the normal adapters for mini-mini jack to mini jack will enable the Mic all the time and can't play stereo, is there a solution for this?
I was already thinking about using tape or something
(the plug for headphones + mic is divided in 3 parts and a normal plug is divided in 2 parts)
thanks for any advise

[DIY] Sound from PC to android and PC headset to android

DIY adapter to use your PC headset in your android :cyclops:
You will need
- 2 female TRS
- 1 male TRRS
- Wires! I strongly recommend USB wires
Ok just weld everything... yes is simple. But how :silly:? Take a look in the pics.
"The original TRRS configuration was created by Nokia and has a pinout", from TIP to SLEEVE, "of Left Audio, Right Audio, Mic, Ground".
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DIY adapter to pass audio from PC or other hardware to your android with male-to-male audio cable
You will need
- 2 female TRS
- 1 male TRRS
- Wires! I strongly recommend USB wires
- Male-to-male audio cable
- Soundabout
Ok just weld everything, everything except the MM and Soundabout ... yes is simple. But how :silly:? Just like the above but also look here first:
"Apple came along and in typical elitist fashion changed their pinout to", from TIP to SLEEVE, "Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground, Mic".
Then this adapter is exactly like the first above, but you will need change the Mic Right to Ground.
To force android to receive the input audio when you plug the male-to-male cable, you may use Soundabout.
Through this configuration you can send audio from any TRS output to your android, then the audio will be captured like a microphone.
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The difference between both is only the MIC and GRND position in the TRRS male. They are switched. By mistake I switched and now I have 2 useful adapters.
BASED ON:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...ultion-why-most-headsets-wont-work-print.html
http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-12/16-using_your_mobile_headset_on_a_pc
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FIRST OLD POST :
Hello knights.
My country are in such a chaos because of the manifest and I'm here mess around with technology... but I'm doing my part too xP.
Anyway, in the last days I was searching and testing a way to send the sound played in my computer, or other device, to my little android (codename Smultron).
With a 3.5mm cable (TRS or the one with 3 contacts) male to male, I plugged into the audio output of my Dell then plugged to my Mini, I started the app to record and... nothing.
Few days later, I used the app Soundabout and... nothing.
More few days later, I did the same thing BUT I don't put the cable until the end, I pulled out a bit, so the 3 contact of the cable stay full visible and... works! I was able do record the audio input of my laptop.
Also, with Soundabout, I was able to stream the audio from my computer to android calls!! For example, if you call me and I answer, if with the cable plugged I play some music on my PC the caller will clear hear what is playing in my computer.
In one more test, I used the MM cable and a splitter. With the Splitter and the cable I was able to stream audio from PC to android mic AND hear the android with a regular earphone, this test was made with a call in course, of course.
But this is only possible because in some way the PC are sending the signal with some extra power. If you try the test with a regular pc headset, without the computer this won't work.
"So why are you here if you did this you noob?" - Well I not figured out why or how the conectors are working when the stream are succesfully done. So I'm here to extend a bit this little research and ask for some help with who master this things. Also I wanna share with you all.
The keys of this are the jack conectors circuit and contacts combinations, and android audio routing using a app like Soundabout.
The main point, in other words, is how to made a DIY cable to stream audio from pc to android mic and with a splitter enable the audio output.
The reason that I'm searching for this is because initially I was looking for a way to did a DIY adapter for PC headphones with two jacks to android input, for single jack.
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One more little thing, for the people that want to record a call without android modifications, you can plug the same male to male cable to PC MIC and start the sound record app of the Windows, for example.
widek said:
:laugh::laugh:very interested thanks so much
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:cyclops: let's rock dude!
I need to discover what points must be in contact with the jack input....
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Look for 4-pin jack plug in google.
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ozix948d said:
Look for 4-pin jack plug in google.
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I was wondering if one of the rings touch the microphone pin inside the jack input and the tip won't touch anything. If the contact of an output was plugged to contact the mic input we got audio from external source to phone...
This is the average TRRS circuit in our mobiles? TRRS circuit
It sounds like you made contact with the input pin, so you might also be contacting an output pin. I'd get a headset adapter cable, so you have an input and output 3.5mm jack.
electromage said:
It sounds like you made contact with the input pin, so you might also be contacting an output pin. I'd get a headset adapter cable, so you have an input and output 3.5mm jack.
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Hummm.
I found some stuff
see the second jack
I finally found something like this
and this
Electro I agree, but I don't found the adapter easily here, so this is one of the reasons of why I want do a DIY.
But you said, I will ask: someone can do the test to send audio from pc to phone through the adapter and with a M to M jack cable?
I will try to found a nice way to do it as an DIY.
I wanna know how this exactly works, If I was searching for ready solution I would be an Apple's zombie xP.
I think I found what I need, let me do something here.... thank you guys. If anyone have more to say please feel welcome.
Yeah I nailed it!
I made a DIY adapter for PC headphones to android (at least the Xperia Mini) and a DIY adapter to send audio to android trough a male-to-male cable. Soon I will post pictures.

Micro USB to 3.5mm Audio?

Hi all,
I'm looking for a way to use my earphones with 3.5mm audio jack via the micro USB port. Ideally, without carrying around a bulky separate amp. I bought a small micro USB to 3.5mm jack cable but it doesn't do anything straight out the box.
I don't know if i just need some sort of software to get the cable I've already bought working, or if I need some other sort of hardware.
Reason for all of this - I managed to break my 3.5mm audio output (plugged it in to a cheap ebay car audio unit and have blown something). I have wireless earphones....but just don't like them as much as my original wired ones!!!!
Hopefully someone can help me out!!
Cheers
You will NEED external DAC and AMP.
Micro usb can only output digital signal.
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You need a USB DAC. There a quite a few like FiiO Q1, AudioQuest Drangonfly, Oppo HA2-SE, Chord Mojo etc. Money is the limit
By itself micro USB does not transmit sound, it transmits a digital signal, you will need an additional USB DAC
Get a quality Bluetooth receiver. Here's a great one with apt-x low latency which is crucial for video.
TaoTronics Bluetooth 4.1 Transmitter / Receiver, 2-in-1 Wireless 3.5mm Adapter (aptX Low Latency, 2 Devices Simultaneously, For TV / Home Sound System) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01EHSX28M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_urHgzb0W0T91H

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