help with the ram - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

is any program or hack to use the card memory for device ram?
thanks

eberto said:
is any program or hack to use the card memory for device ram?
thanks
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Access to card memory is too slow.....
Next time try to search....

eberto said:
is any program or hack to use the card memory for device ram?
thanks
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i am assuming you mean device "rom" ... not ram ... and no it can't be done. You can flash a rom to your device using a storage card but you can't install the rom onto storage card for use on phone.

i think he means ram, and no it cant be done, get a new device with more ram is the answer, best bet is probably the elfin, will cost sub £100

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Saving Space

Hi could you all list files which can be deleted from the device storage in order to save space?
For example, i was looking through the windows directory and i found an Opera cab which is 3.5mb. Could this be deleted?
Feel free to list any other files which can be delted.
1. Opera cab
2.?
3?
please fill in next to the numbers.
Thanks
buy a memory card
jaszek said:
buy a memory card
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And where would he put that in a Diamond?
jaszek said:
buy a memory card
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ok then............
Deleting these files won't bring your more space, as the space is already allocated. You can only remove them if/when you cook a new ROM.

memory card ?

sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !
you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.
your movie should appear in the Gallery
twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...

Available onboard memory for applications?

This phone has 8GB of memory (or 16GB for the other model). Can anyone tell me if all of this space is available for application installation? (excluding the space required for the system files etc)?
I thought I read somewhere that only 1GB was available for application installation while the rest could be used to store normal files like on the SD Card. If it is entirely available for application installation then I'm probably ok not upgrading the memory card as 8GB is plenty big enough for what I need. Even if it is limited to 1GB for application storage, this is plenty big enough for what I need.
TIA
1.8GB free for applications installation in the Galaxy S.
I assume the rest is used for storage space of user files like an extension to the SD card?
Correct.... It's an ideal dumping ground for Photos, Music or whatever takes your fancy.
I'm confused, after the 1.8gb where is the other 6.2gb?
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
SiL3nTKiLL said:
yeah i never really put much on to the onboard memory...i install my apps onto the storage card
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Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
Beards said:
Pray tell how you are managing to install to SD Card as to install to other than internal memory you need Froyo on your system.
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more than likely the phone has been rooted
igniztion said:
The ~6 gb are called Internal SD card or something similar, and is available as storage for music, pictures or whatever you want basically.
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ah makes sense now, thanks
vibez said:
more than likely the phone has been rooted
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Yes... I was thinking that myself but I'd just like to clear this one up.
fletcharama said:
Are you aware that with Android 2.2 (froyo) applications will be installable onto the memory cards.
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Strictly speaking, developers need to update their application before it can be installed onto the SD Card. I'm guessing a lot of the less maintained applications won't be updated and thus won't be able to be installed on the SD Card.
Not many applications fall in this area but I'm sure people have a few apps that work as is and haven't been updated for ages.

[Q] swap memory for x8 - is it possible

I am tired of using link2sd, and low memory of x8.
Is it possible to make effective swap file for x8?
That will give ability to install everything in ram, and then it will be moved to swap, so no linksd is needed.
Also all software which need more than 90 mb of free memory can get that memory becouse system lib will be moved to swap file.
As i know guys from Cyagen made even support for it, but it should be activated.
Is any rom builder can add swap support to their roms?
1. Supposed be in general section
2. We have native app2sd or you can go to cyanogenmod settings then go to applications then select install to external memory.
Hope i help
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gluhov said:
I am tired of using link2sd, and low memory of x8.
Is it possible to make effective swap file for x8?
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Not unless the bootloader is cracked.
gluhov said:
That will give ability to install everything in ram, and then it will be moved to swap, so no linksd is needed.
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The swap file does not work that way. Swap is used to augment the RAM. The X8 has:
1. RAM space - memory to run programs in. ~176MB
2. ROM space - Internal Storage - ~212 MB
3. External Storage - Your SD Card.
gluhov said:
Also all software which need more than 90 mb of free memory can get that memory becouse system lib will be moved to swap file.
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You can, theoretically, use up your entire RAM to run an app. The Android System, has a "smart (???, others might disagree )" way fo handling tasks in which it "caches" background apps until they are called again. Although this is also periodically cleared. But some apps are required to stay in RAM, these are responisible for keeping your phone working.
Google "Android VM manager " and the "Android Memory Manager" if you want to learn more.
In short, having a larger RAM or using a swap file will just "imrpove" multitasking performance. notice that i put the word "improve" in qoutes.
Honestly, I've tried on Froyobread v015, and it lagged the whole rom down like sh!t >.<. After removing it was I able to have a decent fps. You can try it for yourself by using swapper on the android market or CWM recovery .
spyder12345 said:
Honestly, I've tried on Froyobread v015, and it lagged the whole rom down like sh!t >.<. After removing it was I able to have a decent fps. You can try it for yourself by using swapper on the android market or CWM recovery .
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Did you verify it was working. Open up the terminal app and type in "free" without th quotes. It would show you the disposition of your RAM. if swap is zero then its not working.
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gluhov said:
that will give ability to install everything in ram
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wtf am i reading?
wujekandrzej said:
wtf am i reading?
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Space on S4 I9500

Hi, why i have on my I9500, not more than 3 -4 gb on the intern sdcard free? i dont now who the space is gone?
e30power said:
Hi, why i have on my I9500, not more than 3 -4 gb on the intern sdcard free? i dont now who the space is gone?
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did you install any apps to SD ? of had photos and music ?
use a cleaning application and see how much space it finds....
REVERSiN said:
did you install any apps to SD ? of had photos and music ?
use a cleaning application and see how much space it finds....
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No I had nothing install that need so much memory, when i copy all of my harddisk and lock how much memory it takes, it shows 1,4 gb, also it must have 6 gb free on phone, but there is not enough space,
I had formated wiht the phone it the same problem, i had formated at recovery it the same problem, why is it
thx
e30power said:
No I had nothing install that need so much memory, when i copy all of my harddisk and lock how much memory it takes, it shows 1,4 gb, also it must have 6 gb free on phone, but there is not enough space,
I had formated wiht the phone it the same problem, i had formated at recovery it the same problem, why is it
thx
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goto Settings - Storage (take a snapshot)
something isn't right, and another thing is your phone branded ?
like your carrier installed too many thing on the phone too apart from samsung software ?

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