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Want to redo phone, how do I backup and which of the ...

My phone suddenly feels sluggish as if some program is hogging all the memory and I've made a bit of a mess anyway :?. I also just recently got a 1GB mini SD and want to install apps to it.
I need to backup: my contact list, call history, text messages, notes, tasks and also calendar.
How do I go about doing this?
Also which of the following should go on PPC and which are fine to run off the SD?
-TCMP (which cab am I supposed to use again?)
-Skype (going to try new one)
-Total Commander
-Real player (don't think TCMP can play such files)
-The tweak app posted here
-Adobe acrobat reader PPC (I know there's something else but I don't remember its name)
-minimo (seems pretty interesting haven't had the chance to try it out yet)

AsGF2MX said:
I need to backup: my contact list, call history, text messages, notes, tasks and also calendar.
How do I go about doing this?
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Contact list, notes, tasks, calender is backuped with ActiveSync. You don't have to worry if ActiveSync works fine with Outlook.
About the call history and text messages I don't know. I myself haven't find them that important.
I use Sunnysoft Backup Manager for backups:
http://www.sunnysoft.com/en_clanek.php?clanekid=51
Check it out ... it's good if to restore to a snapshot before you screw up your device.
And remember to "redo your phone" with the newest available ROM.

To be honest, I have been running without Activesync. Don't think I have outlook installed...hmm. Is there any way to do it so that it can be loaded directly onto the phone? Otherwise I guess I will have to install it as it comes with office if I remember correctly.
If I can't backup text messages...hmm...there must be away. I would like to keep the call history but it looks like it can't be helped...I'll have to run through and collect some of those numbers :x
Do I really need the newest ROM for my mini S? :? The one on it right now works great. Heck even skype worked acceptably till now...

AsGF2MX said:
If I can't backup text messages...hmm...there must be away. I would like to keep the call history but it looks like it can't be helped...I'll have to run through and collect some of those numbers :x
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I suppose it's possible if you know where the data is saved. But I think there won't be a simple way of doing it. I would myself be intresting where the data can be found.
AsGF2MX said:
Do I really need the newest ROM for my mini S? :? The one on it right now works great. Heck even skype worked acceptably till now...
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Once you "redo your phone" ... it's your best opertunity to upgrade the ROM. And I prefer you do so to avoid problems in the feature. Your device will be faster and be more stable (ROM 2.17).

2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?

AsGF2MX said:
2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?
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2.17 is the ROM HTC has distributed to all brands/countries ... depeding on each contact it depends when the ROM is available officially.
I think it's no worth mailing MS. Hope someone here know where the SMS are saved.

AsGF2MX said:
2.17...Is that an O2 ROM? I will first need to figure out how to save those text messages. Hmm.... Worth emailing MS?
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You realy do need outlook.
JeyoMobileExtender wil backup your SMS in Outlook.
You can also use SPB-Backup, works fine but is hat not to many option for custom backup and restore. The backups are selfextracting

Are those two freeware?

AsGF2MX said:
Are those two freeware?
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No freeware

AsGF2MX said:
Are those two freeware?
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Shareware ... you may be able to test them during the time you "redo your phone".

Jayo Mobile Companion is what you want!
http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp

questions about the very first set up

hey out there.
following your postings about rom devs and flashing for further improvements some weeks i have a small but important question
since i got my blackstone 2 minutes ago and i want to go through SPL, roms and more very soon i dont know, if:
i should start using the phone, like it is (no branding).
put my 200 contacts from my old symbian phone into it by my self (is there any automatic "sync symbian contacts to WM6 contacs" tool?)
install active sync and create some backup/sync source now?
or is this useless, because i cant sync back to it, after i flashed rom/spl etc?
greetings

Good luck with the HD - I'm sure you will like it.
My suggestions:
1. Stick with the standard ROM for now and explore the features.
2. Sync your contacts to Outlook on the PC. I have often changed phone or ROM and always been able to sync the contacts, calendar, tasks, etc with no problem. I don't know about Symbian but you probably can export the contacts file from the old phone to a file that Outlook can read. Once you have the contacts in Outlook on a PC then you can sync when ever you need and after any future ROM change.
I'm still on the standard ROM but with lots of extra add-on apps and tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3117017#post3117017
Have fun !

thanks very much
yes its awesome
but after i hang up for the very first time, my phones touchscreen crashed, with the msg, that there is an error with "gsm.exe" or something like.
i couldnt cancle or submit this error, so i had to softreset ... :[

loadme said:
thanks very much
yes its awesome
but after i hang up for the very first time, my phones touchscreen crashed, with the msg, that there is an error with "gsm.exe" or something like.
i couldnt cancle or submit this error, so i had to softreset ... :[
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Sorry to hear that. I have never seen that on my phone.
Is your phone a sim-locked or fully sim-free phone or a new ROM ?
It sounds like to me that the phone does not have a full implementation for your country and maybe that it has a new ROM from someone other than HTC ?

loadme said:
thanks very much
yes its awesome
but after i hang up for the very first time, my phones touchscreen crashed, with the msg, that there is an error with "gsm.exe" or something like.
i couldnt cancle or submit this error, so i had to softreset ... :[
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Pay a visit to HTC website and download and install latest rom for your region if available.

Restore E-Mail Settings

I'm testing quite a few different ROM's, most things sync making it nice and easy, but I have to keep setting up my e-mail accounts. Is there a way to export them? Is there a particular file I can back up? Can some kind of script be made to put them all back in?
Thanks.

Autoinstall EMail-Settings
Hi,
what I do is ... SASHIMI => http://www.winmo-experts.com/index.php
There are also some Threads here at XDA.
I've created xml's for my GMail and O2-Mail (both with IMAP4) Accounts.
Works perfekt!
Hope this helps
regards
fwt

AndyCr15 said:
I'm testing quite a few different ROM's, most things sync making it nice and easy, but I have to keep setting up my e-mail accounts. Is there a way to export them? Is there a particular file I can back up? Can some kind of script be made to put them all back in?
Thanks.
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Would also like this!

Upgraded ROM - 'People' still there??!

Hi,
Very confused about what happened during a ROM upgrade..
I went from 1.43 to 1.48, immediately following which I did a hard reset (perhaps not strictly necessary however commonly believed to be best practise when flashing ROMs).
HD2 started up, did it's initialization customisations, asked for my provider etc. I then went through and configured my connection with my Exchange Server and all my data sync'd up - all normal so far.
So now I had a fresh install, just with my Exchange data on (contacts / calendar / email etc). Definitely a clean install (just to emphasis the point!) as obviously my app shortcuts weren't there from the home screen, my weather cities of choice weren't there but instead the default, etc etc etc. All as expected.
BUT..
I flicked to the People (contacts) section of Sense (the second tab by default) and to my surprise there were the six faces of the people I had configured previously!! They were in the wrong order (no logic to the new order) but yup they were there!! VERY STRANGE!!
The only thing I can think of is either a) such configuration is stored on the storage card (which obviously isn't wiped during ROM upgrade) or b) it is somehow stored and sync'd back in the individual Outlook contact records themselves (unlikely I'm thinking..).
Any comments??! Even if just to confirm? Or am I going completely mad!!

Same here - very random - my photos and music have been juggled around too...

SimonW500 said:
Hi,
it is somehow stored and sync'd back in the individual Outlook contact records themselves (unlikely I'm thinking..).
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It is this^
When you add in a contact to favourites in sense and sync back to exchange, you will notice that your contact has been added to a category called "HTC Favourite".
Check Outlook on a PC to see the categories your contacts are assigned to.

Thanks for the quick reply and confirmation - good to know I'm not going mad!
So can someone explain how this is done? ie. kept on storage card / sync'd back to Exchange / AN Other?
I'm particularly concerned if it is sync'd back to Exchange, as until now I often try quite a few Windows Mobile devices and enter in my Exchange details etc on the assumption that nothing that particular device does is actually kept once I wipe the phone.

Audio Oblivion said:
It is this^
When you add in a contact to favourites in sense and sync back to exchange, you will notice that your contact has been added to a category called "HTC Favourite".
Check Outlook on a PC to see the categories your contacts are assigned to.
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Wow - another amazing quick response!!
Excellent - thanks for the info - well spotted! Now despite my above comment I can live with this more than happily, actually see it as a useful feature!
Thanks again.

Moving People around?
Following on from the above (loosely!)..
Is there an easy way to move the ordering of these shortcuts around?
Being the picky individual that I am (!) I have them in a certain order, which effectively means that even though the right people are 'remembered' I still have to delete and create them all again to put them in the right order.
Thanks again..

Your photo and Music are located on your SD card. SD card is not impacted by either HARD RESET or Memory Flashing.
You favorties contacts are part of a group... And this informations is stored in the contact information on your Exchange server (like if you've put them in a group named "Restaurants" "Best Friends", etc. But it's not storing their positions; If you flash hard reset multiple times, it will always put them in the same position. (Sync order? Older first? By phone number? no idea right now)
For the other informations (shortcuts) it's not saved either on your SD card, MyPhone account nor Exchange server... no way to get them back automatically..

Kridek said:
Your photo and Music are located on your SD card. SD card is not impacted by either HARD RESET or Memory Flashing.
You favorties contacts are part of a group... And this informations is stored in the contact information on your Exchange server (like if you've put them in a group named "Restaurants" "Best Friends", etc. But it's not storing their positions; If you flash hard reset multiple times, it will always put them in the same position. (Sync order? Older first? By phone number? no idea right now)
For the other informations (shortcuts) it's not saved either on your SD card, MyPhone account nor Exchange server... no way to get them back automatically..
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Good summary - spot on!
It seems with this little integration of Outlook groups, and the use of MyPhone, re-flashing roms or hard resets are getting slightly more "user friendly". I realise there a 3rd party apps to do this (and more) however to me half the beauty of doing such a flash/reset is to NOT carry things over other than pure data (ie. not config)..

People
The faces images info is stored in the pim.vol but whatever you used to reinstall contacts(Exchange?) has sorted them in the wrong order.
I use a method which comes from doing countless rom upgrades.
I used sashimi but realised all it was doing was copying and restoring the pim.vol
Don't use PIM backup as going back & forth from backup and restore seems to lead to corrupted pim.vol files. I know you haven't done that but just a warning.
The way to get a mirror restore, is to copy the pim.vol file in the root folder(device\) before reinstalling to your sd card or pc, then copy back over the empty pim.vol after reinstalling. You can't do it in the device explorer or in activesync but with resco explorer or fexploreext you can. I avoid activesync so I don't get either duplicates or wiped out contact/calendar info. This may seem laborious but after hundreds of rom flashes it has value in being quick and safe. I have 450+ contacts I have accumulated in 7 years of owning PPC/WM's and always have a plethora of calendar items which I can not afford to lose or have corrupted.
If you want to backup sms's you can use PIM Backup.
Maybe you would find it easier to use MS Myphone. I have avoided it so can't give a review.

Pure data
Pure data is great, but once there are uc(user customisation) compliant Leo roms, there will be available, a beautiful way of reconstructing about 80% of all settings, applications and shortcuts. It restores all one's customisation in pristine order, with only the new rom's updated functions.
SimonW500 said:
Good summary - spot on!
It seems with this little integration of Outlook groups, and the use of MyPhone, re-flashing roms or hard resets are getting slightly more "user friendly". I realise there a 3rd party apps to do this (and more) however to me half the beauty of doing such a flash/reset is to NOT carry things over other than pure data (ie. not config)..
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Xaddict said:
The faces images info is stored in the pim.vol but whatever you used to reinstall contacts(Exchange?) has sorted them in the wrong order.
I use a method which comes from doing countless rom upgrades.
I used sashimi but realised all it was doing was copying and restoring the pim.vol
Don't use PIM backup as going back & forth from backup and restore seems to lead to corrupted pim.vol files. I know you haven't done that but just a warning.
The way to get a mirror restore, is to copy the pim.vol file in the root folder(device\) before reinstalling to your sd card or pc, then copy back over the empty pim.vol after reinstalling. You can't do it in the device explorer or in activesync but with resco explorer or fexploreext you can. I avoid activesync so I don't get either duplicates or wiped out contact/calendar info. This may seem laborious but after hundreds of rom flashes it has value in being quick and safe. I have 450+ contacts I have accumulated in 7 years of owning PPC/WM's and always have a plethora of calendar items which I can not afford to lose or have corrupted.
If you want to backup sms's you can use PIM Backup.
Maybe you would find it easier to use MS Myphone. I have avoided it so can't give a review.
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Good tip with with pim.vol file..
For what it's worth, I too have a similar amount of valuable contact and calendar data, however to date I'm pleased to report no amount of heavy ActiveSync (direct Exchange Server connection) abuse has caused any serious issues.

Activesync issues
There's always a first time, and 2nd and so on...
p.s. I'm not sure I want to flash roms the way I did on my HD,
but when I was doing it, activesync gave me a lot of problems.
SimonW500 said:
Good tip with with pim.vol file..
For what it's worth, I too have a similar amount of valuable contact and calendar data, however to date I'm pleased to report no amount of heavy ActiveSync (direct Exchange Server connection) abuse has caused any serious issues.
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Xaddict said:
There's always a first time, and 2nd and so on...
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LOL - very true! For this reason I try to take a copy of all my contacts within Outlook at least once a month; both protects me from any wayward devices as well as any modifications I may make and then regret (change of numbers, deletions etc!).

I love this feature
usually , one had to reconfigure all the favorite contacts after a hard reset.
Now, when syncing with Exchange, like said above, your favorites will be restored with pictures and all. Great
Never had them pop back in in the wrong order though.

lucid said:
usually , one had to reconfigure all the favorite contacts after a hard reset.
Now, when syncing with Exchange, like said above, your favorites will be restored with pictures and all. Great
Never had them pop back in in the wrong order though.
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Same here, I upgraded from HD to HD2, as soon as i sync with exchange i got my favs back in the correct order with all my emails , text messages etc etc.

APP where it saves your email setups for every flash?

I constantly flash my phone monthly and its a pain in the [email protected]# to setup all 4 of my email accounts. Is there an APP that saves the info and can easily restore every time we flash?

ZzFDKzZ said:
I constantly flash my phone monthly and its a pain in the [email protected]# to setup all 4 of my email accounts. Is there an APP that saves the info and can easily restore every time we flash?
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What you want to look for is something called RapiConfig
It will get provisioning info, email accounts wifi info from your device and make it into cab files for you.
Got to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
Then search that thread for RapiConfig. There is a lot of info there but it should get you going.

rgb-rgb said:
What you want to look for is something called RapiConfig
It will get provisioning info, email accounts wifi info from your device and make it into cab files for you.
Got to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
Then search that thread for RapiConfig. There is a lot of info there but it should get you going.
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Another option for building the files yourself is here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=113189
I did not know about RapiConfig...I'll check it out as well.

One more option is Makisu, which is a MortScript app for generating XML files with your credentials. I've used it for my email accounts and for storing my wireless network keys. It comes bundled with Sashimi over at winmo-experts.. if youre constantly flashing your phone, its well worth spending a couple hours learning and setting it up

Damn they are all so complicated. Anything simple like PIM Backup?

ZzFDKzZ said:
Damn they are all so complicated. Anything simple like PIM Backup?
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SPB Backup will backup and restore the PIM data. I've never actually tried to see if it restores the email settings, but I believe that would work. I've used it to restore all the appointments and contacts, but the email accounts were always already on the phone.
It is not free, however.

You can try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630094