Upgraded ROM - 'People' still there??! - HD2 General

Hi,
Very confused about what happened during a ROM upgrade..
I went from 1.43 to 1.48, immediately following which I did a hard reset (perhaps not strictly necessary however commonly believed to be best practise when flashing ROMs).
HD2 started up, did it's initialization customisations, asked for my provider etc. I then went through and configured my connection with my Exchange Server and all my data sync'd up - all normal so far.
So now I had a fresh install, just with my Exchange data on (contacts / calendar / email etc). Definitely a clean install (just to emphasis the point!) as obviously my app shortcuts weren't there from the home screen, my weather cities of choice weren't there but instead the default, etc etc etc. All as expected.
BUT..
I flicked to the People (contacts) section of Sense (the second tab by default) and to my surprise there were the six faces of the people I had configured previously!! They were in the wrong order (no logic to the new order) but yup they were there!! VERY STRANGE!!
The only thing I can think of is either a) such configuration is stored on the storage card (which obviously isn't wiped during ROM upgrade) or b) it is somehow stored and sync'd back in the individual Outlook contact records themselves (unlikely I'm thinking..).
Any comments??! Even if just to confirm? Or am I going completely mad!!

Same here - very random - my photos and music have been juggled around too...

SimonW500 said:
Hi,
it is somehow stored and sync'd back in the individual Outlook contact records themselves (unlikely I'm thinking..).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is this^
When you add in a contact to favourites in sense and sync back to exchange, you will notice that your contact has been added to a category called "HTC Favourite".
Check Outlook on a PC to see the categories your contacts are assigned to.

Thanks for the quick reply and confirmation - good to know I'm not going mad!
So can someone explain how this is done? ie. kept on storage card / sync'd back to Exchange / AN Other?
I'm particularly concerned if it is sync'd back to Exchange, as until now I often try quite a few Windows Mobile devices and enter in my Exchange details etc on the assumption that nothing that particular device does is actually kept once I wipe the phone.

Audio Oblivion said:
It is this^
When you add in a contact to favourites in sense and sync back to exchange, you will notice that your contact has been added to a category called "HTC Favourite".
Check Outlook on a PC to see the categories your contacts are assigned to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow - another amazing quick response!!
Excellent - thanks for the info - well spotted! Now despite my above comment I can live with this more than happily, actually see it as a useful feature!
Thanks again.

Moving People around?
Following on from the above (loosely!)..
Is there an easy way to move the ordering of these shortcuts around?
Being the picky individual that I am (!) I have them in a certain order, which effectively means that even though the right people are 'remembered' I still have to delete and create them all again to put them in the right order.
Thanks again..

Your photo and Music are located on your SD card. SD card is not impacted by either HARD RESET or Memory Flashing.
You favorties contacts are part of a group... And this informations is stored in the contact information on your Exchange server (like if you've put them in a group named "Restaurants" "Best Friends", etc. But it's not storing their positions; If you flash hard reset multiple times, it will always put them in the same position. (Sync order? Older first? By phone number? no idea right now)
For the other informations (shortcuts) it's not saved either on your SD card, MyPhone account nor Exchange server... no way to get them back automatically..

Kridek said:
Your photo and Music are located on your SD card. SD card is not impacted by either HARD RESET or Memory Flashing.
You favorties contacts are part of a group... And this informations is stored in the contact information on your Exchange server (like if you've put them in a group named "Restaurants" "Best Friends", etc. But it's not storing their positions; If you flash hard reset multiple times, it will always put them in the same position. (Sync order? Older first? By phone number? no idea right now)
For the other informations (shortcuts) it's not saved either on your SD card, MyPhone account nor Exchange server... no way to get them back automatically..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good summary - spot on!
It seems with this little integration of Outlook groups, and the use of MyPhone, re-flashing roms or hard resets are getting slightly more "user friendly". I realise there a 3rd party apps to do this (and more) however to me half the beauty of doing such a flash/reset is to NOT carry things over other than pure data (ie. not config)..

People
The faces images info is stored in the pim.vol but whatever you used to reinstall contacts(Exchange?) has sorted them in the wrong order.
I use a method which comes from doing countless rom upgrades.
I used sashimi but realised all it was doing was copying and restoring the pim.vol
Don't use PIM backup as going back & forth from backup and restore seems to lead to corrupted pim.vol files. I know you haven't done that but just a warning.
The way to get a mirror restore, is to copy the pim.vol file in the root folder(device\) before reinstalling to your sd card or pc, then copy back over the empty pim.vol after reinstalling. You can't do it in the device explorer or in activesync but with resco explorer or fexploreext you can. I avoid activesync so I don't get either duplicates or wiped out contact/calendar info. This may seem laborious but after hundreds of rom flashes it has value in being quick and safe. I have 450+ contacts I have accumulated in 7 years of owning PPC/WM's and always have a plethora of calendar items which I can not afford to lose or have corrupted.
If you want to backup sms's you can use PIM Backup.
Maybe you would find it easier to use MS Myphone. I have avoided it so can't give a review.

Pure data
Pure data is great, but once there are uc(user customisation) compliant Leo roms, there will be available, a beautiful way of reconstructing about 80% of all settings, applications and shortcuts. It restores all one's customisation in pristine order, with only the new rom's updated functions.
SimonW500 said:
Good summary - spot on!
It seems with this little integration of Outlook groups, and the use of MyPhone, re-flashing roms or hard resets are getting slightly more "user friendly". I realise there a 3rd party apps to do this (and more) however to me half the beauty of doing such a flash/reset is to NOT carry things over other than pure data (ie. not config)..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Xaddict said:
The faces images info is stored in the pim.vol but whatever you used to reinstall contacts(Exchange?) has sorted them in the wrong order.
I use a method which comes from doing countless rom upgrades.
I used sashimi but realised all it was doing was copying and restoring the pim.vol
Don't use PIM backup as going back & forth from backup and restore seems to lead to corrupted pim.vol files. I know you haven't done that but just a warning.
The way to get a mirror restore, is to copy the pim.vol file in the root folder(device\) before reinstalling to your sd card or pc, then copy back over the empty pim.vol after reinstalling. You can't do it in the device explorer or in activesync but with resco explorer or fexploreext you can. I avoid activesync so I don't get either duplicates or wiped out contact/calendar info. This may seem laborious but after hundreds of rom flashes it has value in being quick and safe. I have 450+ contacts I have accumulated in 7 years of owning PPC/WM's and always have a plethora of calendar items which I can not afford to lose or have corrupted.
If you want to backup sms's you can use PIM Backup.
Maybe you would find it easier to use MS Myphone. I have avoided it so can't give a review.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good tip with with pim.vol file..
For what it's worth, I too have a similar amount of valuable contact and calendar data, however to date I'm pleased to report no amount of heavy ActiveSync (direct Exchange Server connection) abuse has caused any serious issues.

Activesync issues
There's always a first time, and 2nd and so on...
p.s. I'm not sure I want to flash roms the way I did on my HD,
but when I was doing it, activesync gave me a lot of problems.
SimonW500 said:
Good tip with with pim.vol file..
For what it's worth, I too have a similar amount of valuable contact and calendar data, however to date I'm pleased to report no amount of heavy ActiveSync (direct Exchange Server connection) abuse has caused any serious issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Xaddict said:
There's always a first time, and 2nd and so on...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL - very true! For this reason I try to take a copy of all my contacts within Outlook at least once a month; both protects me from any wayward devices as well as any modifications I may make and then regret (change of numbers, deletions etc!).

I love this feature
usually , one had to reconfigure all the favorite contacts after a hard reset.
Now, when syncing with Exchange, like said above, your favorites will be restored with pictures and all. Great
Never had them pop back in in the wrong order though.

lucid said:
usually , one had to reconfigure all the favorite contacts after a hard reset.
Now, when syncing with Exchange, like said above, your favorites will be restored with pictures and all. Great
Never had them pop back in in the wrong order though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here, I upgraded from HD to HD2, as soon as i sync with exchange i got my favs back in the correct order with all my emails , text messages etc etc.

Related

Activesync wipes contacts after restoring system with Sprite

My XDAII recently decided to hard reset on its own and I hadnt backed up for about 10 days (I use the latest version of Sprite Backup). After restoring I connected via activesync and it read the contacts on the PDA and decided to wipe 10 days worth of new contacts and outlook database edits! Because they wernt on the XDAII it assumed I had deleted them! Is there a way of avoiding this in the future?
in the activsync options there is a option called
conflict resolution which deside how conflicting settings are handled
Its not about a conflict- there is only 1 version of the new contact on my PC which it choses to delete because it doesnt see one on the XDA. I set the conflict resolution setting to "always replace the item on my PPC"
well some times when i sync there comes a dialog asking me if
i want to replace items on my ppc or on my pc or combine them
i always pick combine and clear up manualy if i get double entries
but as a rule ms software that you get for free have some troublesome strangeness personalities
I got caught by this a few times. My solution was to delete all the items on the desktop ( without emptying the waste bin so you can get them back if you need to) and then synch. This avoided the all delete or all duplicate scenarios. I think Sprite must affect a synch flag when it restores. Anyway - this works for me as I don't add that many contacts on a daily basis
UK badboy said:
Its not about a conflict- there is only 1 version of the new contact on my PC which it choses to delete because it doesnt see one on the XDA. I set the conflict resolution setting to "always replace the item on my PPC"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't matter how many copies etc - it's a hidden TIMESTAMP that might cause this.
So despite them being in Outlook, and NOT on the phone, when you restore back to the phone, the timestamp is more recent than in Oultook.
Thus, when you sync, Outlook thinks ITS numbers are old, and no longer needed, and deletes them
I agree, it's the timestamp, how we work around it?
Shadamehr,
I completely agree with your diagnosis, and is very annoying to get the original date changed on my main PC since the date stamp is for me a criteria used to understand when a contact or an info comes from...
Is there a solution?
I use XBack-up, but I understand that also people who use Sprite have the same problem... is there a software without this problem?
By the way, taking about back-up, mine done on a kingston 128 menory takes around 6 hours... (restore is under one hour) is that normal? What is your experinece? Do u think it's a memory card a ROM or a device problem?
Thanks,
Chris

alternative way to backup contacts?

Hi
Just got this thing the other day (O2 XDA Mini S) and am pulling my hair out with ActiveSync. A google and a look round these forums convinces me I'm not alone.
I'm now at the point where notes will sync, but Contacts and Calendar will not. This appears to be most likely because I'm not using an Exchange Server.
I give in. Can anyone advise whether this some alternative to ActiveSync that I can use to back up my contacts list? I'd hate to have to do it all over again.
I have a memory card, so adding software from that is no problem if necessary.
Thanks
You can try the backup tool Sunnysoft
in advanced mode is an option Backup PIM databases
lansalot said:
I'm now at the point where notes will sync, but Contacts and Calendar will not. This appears to be most likely because I'm not using an Exchange Server.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you just trying to sync with your pc over the usb link? You don't need Exchange Server for that - it sync's with Outlook directly. Have you set up what information you want to sync in ActiveSync's Tools->options?
Another possibility for not syncing is any firewall you are running - although, if it was that, you wouldn't even get Notes to sync.
John
yup
Thanks for that John, yep I've done all I can see that I need to do. Missing Exchange was about the only thing left I could think of. I think I might uninstall Outlook and reinstall it to see if that helps. Though I *hate* having to install that POS just so I can backup some settings !
Perhaps there's somewhere within the phone that will export the various settings somewhere. Or perhaps I should dig out VS2005 and attempt to write one myself. Backing up to storage card would be the best option I think, and from a look around the .net mobile CF, it would appear to be pretty well supported.
And I had to disable Zonealarm despite having all the appropriate configurations set up to allow it. I even put 169.254.x.x in the trusted zone, to no avail.
ActiveSync is a shocking piece of software - and I know from owning other phones that there's things like MobiExplorer and MobiManager that tends to work much better than the usual manufacturer-supplied stuff.
Chak, thanks for the lead with SunnySoft.
Copy the pim.vol file from the root directory of the device. This contains all your pim info (contacts, call history, tasks, calendar). You can't really make anything out of it if you try to view it, but when you hard reset, you can just overwrite the new one and soft reset to restore everything. I copy mine to my storage card every time i add something new that has to do with pim stuff.
guttrhead said:
Copy the pim.vol file from the root directory of the device. This contains all your pim info (contacts, call history, tasks, calendar). You can't really make anything out of it if you try to view it, but when you hard reset, you can just overwrite the new one and soft reset to restore everything. I copy mine to my storage card every time i add something new that has to do with pim stuff.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
in my case, pim.vol file is protected, so copying & replacing it after hard reset does not work. i have other workaround for backuping contacts (as my activesync with outlook simply does not work) - each contact via irda to computer. it saves contact as .vcf file that you can send to wizard back again after hard reset.
Try using total commander to get to the file.
I yust transfered the file via email inside my home WLan to the PC.....
Hey, is this a common problem for HTC devices or Windows mobile in general?
I just started searching because my calendar won't sync. (3 palm devices and 3 pda's later, I have 1,400+ contacts.)
Are there any workarounds that anyone knows?
I tried setting up the sync settings whilst the device was disconnected, but the calendar entry just disappears when I re-connect.
-Worried of Sheffield.
thanks
Thanks eva_d, I had already hit on the idea of bluetoothing all my contacts over (thankfully, there's not that many) from my nokia 6600. Luckily, the XDA didn't require my SIM to be in it during the transfer. It even took over the mini pictures I had for some of the contacts, quite smart.
But it would be some chore with more than the couple dozen I had.
I'm reading up on the windowsmobile classes in dotnet, I reckon the answer would lie in there somewhere. Writing an app in VS to back things up to some funky open format would be the ideal, even if it does just drop a directory full of VCF files for example.
Once I'm sure VS2005 is installed and working correctly (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41155), I'll throw some serious effort at it.
Re: thanks
lansalot said:
Thanks eva_d, I had already hit on the idea of bluetoothing all my contacts over (thankfully, there's not that many) from my nokia 6600. Luckily, the XDA didn't require my SIM to be in it during the transfer. It even took over the mini pictures I had for some of the contacts, quite smart.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
copying contacts to other handset is bit risky, because various producers are using various interpretation of .vcf file format. for instance, when i copy contact from siemens s65 to wizard, email field is always ripped off the contact and polish national characters are also absent. copying contacts to computer via irda is quite safe, however personal ringtones assigned to contact and voice dials are sacrified. all other data within a contact are still present, including contact picture.
A bit more info on the missing calendar link:-
I have one laptop using activesync V.4.1 this was where i first discovered the problem.
Just tried laptop #2 running a/sync v.3.7.1 which has an older copy of my appointments in outlook. Calendar doesn't sync to this either, so it must be something inside the MDA.
Tried to search microsoft support to find a solution, but no entries found. This seems to indicate that it is a HTC issue. I had a MDA Pro briefly sync-ed up which worked Ok. The problems are with my MDA compact running WM2003.
pim.vol not only saves the contact but also the assigned ringtone and pic. only way to do it is copy to storage card.
then after hard reset it won't let you overwrite the new one but if you rename it to pim.vol.old it lets you do that. then you can overwrite it.
laich71 said:
pim.vol not only saves the contact but also the assigned ringtone and pic. only way to do it is copy to storage card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
contact pictures are NOT saved in pim.vol. when i restore contacts via irda from .vcf files on my laptop, pictures are already there.
I know this thread has moved on a bit, but I've just got my calendar to sync. again and I'm soooo relieved!
Take a look at this forum to find out how:-
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync
Look at 'Cannot get calendar to sycnhronise' and the second reply.
Backing up the Contacts with Mail2Web Live Mail Service
I basically use the mail2web live mail service, and use its exchange server as the server source in Activesync. I only choose synching Contacts with this server (but you can choose others).
This way, all my contacts are always up to date in mail2web servers, and even if I need to hard reset, I can reget all of my contacts back very quickly.
Highly recommended...
Fast
please use the search PLEASE! ....search for PPCBckpContacts.exe
damn it!

ActiveSynch to SD

My ActiveSynch (latest version 4.5) halted when stored memory (50MB) maxed out. On the handset's File Explorer, there is a 40MB file that, based on the date and extension (.PIM), is undoubtedly the Pocket Outlook data file. Of course, with the storage maxed out, the phone is all but useless for anything except repeated prompts to delete files.
The handset has a 2GB SD Micro card (which ActiveSynch recognizes) but I cannot find any option or any documentation for synching Outlook to the storage card. Even though I could copy the .PIM file from the handset's root directory to the storage card (using File Explorer), I cannot delete it from the root directory, either using the handset's File Explorer or from the linked computer using the ActiveSynch Explore Device (the "sharing violation warning appears whether the handset is connected to the computer or not.
I suppose a hard reset is in my future, but unless I can figure out how to synch Outlook (contacts and calendar only; I don't synch any documents or Windows media files) with the storage card, i'll be back at square one. Can you can point me in the right direction?
You can change the location where the phonestores the data to SD card see here under file locations:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
However, I stand to be corrected, but when you sync to PC I think it will continue to use the PIM file in main memory.
There is however an active sync add on called mobsync http://mobsync.en.softonic.com/pocket (freeware version) which can sync with files on the sd card - there might be some mileage in checking this out.
This would still leave you the problem of reducing the size of the PIM file in Main memory. This may be a case of entering via messaging etc and deleting entries. This has potential to go wrong so I would addvise (as is good practice anyway to do a full backup with something like spb backup first)
Mike
Thank you so much - this is the first response I have received other than mass delete Contacts on the PC to reduce the PIM.vol file size.
the suggested registry directory for changing file locations on the handheld:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\FileSyncPath
does not exist in my registry; however, it does have a directory:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services\Services\Synchronization\All\MS.WinCE.Outlook\Contact
the Data associated with the Store key is:
<*Invalid*>
if I change the Data to:
\Storage Card
or
\Storage Card\Contacts
does Windows Mobile know to look for the contacts there?
Unfortunately, I think I have given you a bad steer on this one. It seems that the tweak on the general WM5 wiki page is not available for the Hermes. I am looking at this further but it looks as if the contacts in the PIM file must be available to the Hermes phone function at all times as they are required for phone services. In non phone models this would not be the case and the tweak may be available.
Am looking at this further, but it looks as though you may be stuck with reducing the file size by deleting contents as others have suggested
EDIT - additional info:
Extract from Windows Mobile Team Blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx
Why don't we do more with SD cards?
A frequent question is why we don't support putting more things on storage cards. For instance, we don't allow you to store your contacts, calendar entries, or email on storage cards. (We do allow you to store attachments there, though.) The general problem is that storage cards can, by their nature, be removed from the device. Some types of data don't lend themselves to being there one second and gone the next. Sync would get very confused if it saw 300 contacts on one sync, and then only saw 10 on the next. It would certainly be possible to work out some sort of interface to allow this, but it would be pretty complicated, both to code and to use.
Things that already have the concept of sometimes being there and sometimes not, like email attachments and temporary internet files, are easier to handle on an SD card.
As with any potential feature, allowing someone to put their contacts on a storage card would require that we not do some other feature. On prioritizing SD changes, we take a lot of factors into consideration, one of which is where we see internal flash going. We've already seen phones with multiple gigabytes of internal storage. As things like that become more common, the value of doing new things on storage cards goes down. There's still value in working on SD, it's just that it's not as valuable as other things are.
See also:
http://pocketpcmauritius.blogspot.com/2007/01/final-word-about-moving-pimvol.html
Mike
ActiveSynch - Outlook file too large
Thanks - this keeps me from spinning wheels on the storage card solution (or non-solution)
do you know of any 3d party synch applications allowing you to control or filter which Outlook contacts are synched? I have 11K+ contacts and can't do a mass delete just to get a file small enough to synch with the phone's tiny on-board memory
I understand your pain my friend. However, I cannot conceive of anyones Contacts and Calendar being 40 MB as they're basically text. I suspect that your Inbox is what's clogging the works. Curious how far back your email goes to on your device ... I carry 1 month on my PDA with my attachments on my SC myself.
nope, no email - just the contacts and calendar entries. I did stumble on a partial solution, however. The original data is stored in TimeMatters, which I had to synch with Outlook before re-synching with Pocket Outlook. TimeMatters has a synch utility with works directly with Pocket Outlook, which allows me to limit the scope of the calendar items. The resulting PIM file on the handheld is "only" 30MB, permitting enough breathing room to escape the "delete file" warnings
For all practical purposes, the "delete file" warnings are useless. The file search utility (for files over 64k in size) runs for a few minutes and comes up empty. Attempts to manually move larger files in (either with File Explorer on the handheld or on the PC) to the storage card are useless.
Using most of the phone's on board memory apparently slows it to a crawl. The delay between pressing a button or typing a letter is like a Windows PC running on virtual memory; the rotating colored pie is becoming as ubiquitous as the PC hourglass
I have tried resetting, upgrading to the latest (4/2007) ROM, quitting active programs, and.. lots of rotating colored pie. Maybe the phone just needs to get used to all my contacts
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
mikechannon said:
How many contacts have you got - just so others can say whether your file size is normal or strangely large for some reason?
Mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
11K. not all are needed on the phone but there is no way to filter
Dr Puttingham said:
Yes, good ol' Lexus Nexus... I'm familar with configuring the scope on TM7. I've always had to sync my PDA's from TM to Outlook, then Outlook to Pocket Outlook, not familar with their direct sync program. Am also not sure exactly how much info TM ties into the Contacts when it comes out of TM but I suspect it could be large considering the Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc that it associates with... btw, what version of TM are you using?
With the Crackberries I install the individual TM apps to the device so it never goes into their Outlook but instead is OTA with the Enterprise Server (BES)
You might need to call Lexus Nexus (oh what fun to wait for a call back if one doesn't have a support contract with them ) and ask for their advise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
good news:
TM8E contains an applet to synch directly with Pocket Outlook, which generates a much smaller PIM file on the handheld.
bad news:
the direct synch is very (very, *very*) fussy and time consuming. TM will appear to crash and Task Manager will show that TM is "not responding"
good news:
After about 20 minutes, TM kicks back in and shows thousands of contacts
synchronizing to the handheld (there is a preview dialogue box; when you approve, a status bar slowly grinds to the right as each contact scrolls up and is listed as synchronizing)
bad news:
only a few of the contacts are actually on the phone.
good news:
this really reduces the size of the PIM file and resolves the performance issues listed in my earlier post
bad news:
as much fun as it is waiting for the Lexus Nexus callback (if you get impatient, get on a conference call or go to the bathroom), they are less than helpful on synching issues. In all fairness there are so many 3d party variables
---
The synch does not bring a Contact's related Events, ToDo's, Matters, etc although of course you can also synch Events & ToDo's (not Matters like you can the on Blackberry and Palm OS). I strictly limit the scope of the Events & ToDo's so that only 100 or so (the next 3 month's worth) synch. Unfortunately, there is no way to filter limit the scope of the Contacts.
I could limit the fields to phone numbers and emails, but the Treos handled all of my Contacts with address and memo fields included. Searching on the Treo was almost instantaneous - no rotating colored pie as the OS churns through the search. The Treo (650) just wasn't a very good phone. Nothing's perfect, I suppose

Backup Software Problem

Hi,
I've used SPB backup for years on my PDA's so when I backed up my HD2, everything looked like it backed up ok. Had to hard reset the HD2 but didn't think much about it because I had a backup exe. Ran the exe twice and nothing changed. Im pretty sure I have the latest version that is compatible with WM 6.5.
Do you have to turn off HT sense in order for the back up to work properly?
I've read in the forum that others have had good luck with Sprite, anyone use either of these programs successfully?
Thanks for any insight you can provide
Mike
mhmobile said:
Hi,
I've used SPB backup for years on my PDA's so when I backed up my HD2, everything looked like it backed up ok. Had to hard reset the HD2 but didn't think much about it because I had a backup exe. Ran the exe twice and nothing changed. Im pretty sure I have the latest version that is compatible with WM 6.5.
Do you have to turn off HT sense in order for the back up to work properly?
I've read in the forum that others have had good luck with Sprite, anyone use either of these programs successfully?
Thanks for any insight you can provide
Mike
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used SPB successfully, except for the fact that when sync'ing after restore, the PC does not recognize the device as a device that was already connected, and sets up a new Mobile-pc connection (which makes a second connection on the mobile, and can cause problem sync'ing mail).
I have read that others had problems with restored SMSs when using SPB, I did not check that.
I had a VERY BAD experience with the Sprite backup.
I just would NOT restore the contacts and calendar data,
and messed up the multi-language support after ROM upgrade,
no matter what restore method I selected.
So -
in my experience concludes that - NO backup program is reliable.
Depending on what you want from your backup solution, Microsoft MyPhone is particularly good!
It syncs data to & from an online store where you can view it via a web interface. You can sync your data with MyPhone, hard reset the device, sync your data again and it's just back.
What's more, you can set it to automatically sync data on a periodic basis. I have it run a sync at 4am every day, and it's only ever failed a couple of times, and I've been using it for over 6 months now!
Have a look at it - it should be on your phone, but it's in the marketplace if it's not there. Alternatively, just google MyPhone.
Hope this helps
johncmolyneux said:
Depending on what you want from your backup solution, Microsoft MyPhone is particularly good!
It syncs data to & from an online store where you can view it via a web interface. You can sync your data with MyPhone, hard reset the device, sync your data again and it's just back.
What's more, you can set it to automatically sync data on a periodic basis. I have it run a sync at 4am every day, and it's only ever failed a couple of times, and I've been using it for over 6 months now!
Have a look at it - it should be on your phone, but it's in the marketplace if it's not there. Alternatively, just google MyPhone.
Hope this helps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, right,
just the small fact they dont back up the data on their servers make it just as unreliable.
(The server crashed no too long ago, and they had no backup, and many users lost their data)
http://www.securecomputing.net.au/N...rver-failure-causes-smartphone-data-loss.aspx
http://www.scmagazineus.com/microsoft-server-failure-causes-sidekick-data-loss/article/152114/
Som30ne said:
Yeah, right,
just the small fact they dont back up the data on their servers make it just as unreliable.
(The server crashed no too long ago, and they had no backup, and many users lost their data)
http://www.securecomputing.net.au/N...rver-failure-causes-smartphone-data-loss.aspx
http://www.scmagazineus.com/microsoft-server-failure-causes-sidekick-data-loss/article/152114/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you rely 100% on a backup then you are gonna get screwed sometimes. Like I said, mine syncs daily, so even if it didn't work for a couple of days I wouldn't actually lose any data unless my phone went down.
So basically, if everything fails then yes, you'll lose your data.
Anyway, neither of the articles you linked even mentions the MyPhone service.
Thanks for the info though
Just as a matter of interest, cloud services like MyPhone seem to be on the increase. However who is asking the questions of these service providers as to how safe and secure our data really is?
So if I upload a thousand contacts onto MyPhone how do I know that someone isn't going to get their hands on that data or, worse still, use it for either commercial advantage or nefarious purposes?
I am not against cloud services per se; however these services, including MyLocation, seem to be getting accepted without any of us either fully understanding how secure all this data is, who actually holds it, what the impacts are on our right to privacy, etc, etc.
Just asking the question chaps. Interested in your sensible views.
WB
I'm with you, WB, I suspect we (the global "we") are losing our grip on our data and privacy without even realising it.
personally I just sync with outlook for contacts and mails and I backup outlook every week or so. I doubt ill use cloud services for some time to come.
hey dude, i am using spb backup i hard reset lots of times because i trial lots of softwares, till this date never had any problems! SPB been really reliable
I've been using SK Tools to backup my HD2 since I got it. It works fine with the HD2 except for one small but weird issue.
The first time I restored a backup from SK Tools, it restored everything just fine, except, when in ActiveSync, I could not copy or write to the phone, nor could I install new software on the phone. It seems like the permissions on the phone had been changed to "Read Only" for all files and folder. However, if I then connected the HD2 to my PC, but select it to connect as an external drive, I could then perform read/write data from/to the SD card. However, if I started to install a new .cab file from the SD card it would still fail during installation.
The way to overcome this issue, was for me to perform a hard reset, connect the phone to my PC with ActiveSync, perform a read/write to/from the phone, then after that, do the restore with SK Tools. If a file had been read and written to the phone/SD card with Activesync prior to the restore, it would then restore perfectly, and everything will be back to normal.
Other than this one weird issue, I haven't had any problems with using SK Tools for backup.
Had always good experience with Sprite Backup, used it on "O2 Orbit II", HTC Touch HD, and now using Sprite Backup on HD2.
On HD2 i didn't need a Image restore yet, but I do not expect to get a problem in this case.
File restore worked well!
Using the default Sprite Backup configuration contacts, calendar and tasks will not be backed up, because in the case of a Image restore Sprite-Software says you can get double entries afterwards when sync with Outlook.
manilla
Thanks all for your input, maybe this was just a glitch. I'll stick with SPB unless it happens again...
I've tried Sprite Backup and SPB Backup to get my call history and SMS's on to my HD2 (from a TyTN2) but have a problem with the results form both. Messages display in the Sense tab, and in the "all messages" list if the traditional non-conversational view mode is used they all display correctly and can be opened and viewed. If I leave the phone in conversation view however, I can't view any of the conversations. The conversations appear in the list, but if I tap any of them it goes straight bcak to the Sense tab showing the newest message. Photos for contacts are also not displayed against the conversations. If I send a text to someone it starts a new conversation and displays the photo. These new conversations open properly when you go back to them.
I can't work out what is causing this, anyone else had this problem?

How to back up your HD2

right first things first ive done a few searches and coldnt find anything
I would like to know what you guys use to back up your phone. Im mainly after backing up my sms inbox, contacts and installed apps and settings. Ive had to factory reset my phone twice in the passed week lol lost everything and now have it tweeked to my liking now. so I best back up everything asap incase
thanks for any replies
Hi..
there is an app called microsoft my phone , on the start windows tab,,
regards
op
and i dont fancy paying £18.19 for SPRITE BACKUP
the_operator said:
Hi..
there is an app called microsoft my phone , on the start windows tab,,
regards
op
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm with this guy....I use Microsoft "My Phone" too....I like to mess with my phone and this program syncs everything that I need and stores it online. I can even access and make changes from my PC if I feel the need. Everytime I change my ROM I just sync it up and all my contacts, calendar etc are back on the phone!
Seem those guys never upgrade their phone, uh!
Every time you have to re-enter all config stufs (e.g. e-mails accounts & passwords, connections settings, and so on); everything can be saved by ActiveSync or My Phone EXCEPT those specific configs!!!
I just found CeRegistryEditor (link to ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/?lang=en): it allows to backup & compare registry entries with file(s) by using ActiveSync connection.
Everytime you add/change some specific settings just compare entries with previously saved one and save it with mnemonic name; once you re-initialize your phone just load all saved keys, of course without forgetting to re-install all related programs, if needed!
Your phone will be just as you want in a couple of minutes. That's it!
rg,
Stefano
Definitely SPB Backup.
Give that a shot... it's a costly bit of software... but completely worthy.
Sprite Backup is a must for anyone, especially for those who wants to do some tweaking.
sprite back up
Exactly 12 hours ago my Leo 's sence stopped launching and I was in a horrible time.I had collected 79 nice opera bookmarks and doing a hard reset should clean all of them !
spb back up was not the solution ,cause it can't back up favourites.and Microsoft my phone couldn't sync cause the wi-fi was dead ! so I beamed up Sprite back up tool from my old Hd .
and it selected percisely what I wanted...I think spb phone plus or suit has the same function for backing up favourites but SPRITE is perfect.
I want to back up my hd2 too, can anyone tell me how to use Activesync for backing up plz
Hi,
i think you can't use AS for backup. You could copy all the user-data and programm folders but not the registry entries. You need special backup software for this purpose. I know Spb Backup and Sprite. Although i ve registered bith i mainlay use Spb because it works better for me. I think it is worth his money.
Bernhard
Re: HD2 backup
Personally I store everything on the storage card - and use Jeyo Mobile Companion to backup and restore contacts, sms, call history etc prior to flashing... works like a charm...
And in conjunction with Microsoft My Phone - never lost anything so far... even able to recover my business mobile while roaming...
trying to put my nubers on the adroid version how can i do it
haircuts91 said:
trying to put my nubers on the adroid version how can i do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As with Android you need to set up a GMail account, so you can access the app market.
Set up a new exchange e-mail account on your WinMo phone - Use the details you used in the GMail account. Once it is set up, the GMail account will pick up your contacts when you sync the phone (via the phone's Activesync).
When you go into Android sync your Gmail account.
PIM Backup.
haircuts91 said:
trying to put my nubers on the adroid version how can i do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you use hotmail, just use activesync/exchange connection on your android
I got a question, when you install the wp7 on the HD2, do you also lose files from the internal memory? like the camera software or the album software or everything from internal memory?
so which backup file can i use to save all those folders and files?
I tried SPB.
Downloaded it ok.
Ran it ok.
Then at the end of the process it crashed the phone.
Booted but sense wouldn't load at all. Start worked but irratic and laggy, settings didn't open.
Tried numerous soft resets but nothing worked.
Did a hard reset and used Microsoft MyPhone to restore contacts, tasks, SMS and calendar all perfect apart from havingbto resync contacts with facebook.
I did have to download all my apps and mods again and confit email etc. A real pain but didn't loose anything valuable,
MyPhone very useful and free.
BEERSHARK said:
I tried SPB.
Downloaded it ok.
Ran it ok.
Then at the end of the process it crashed the phone.
Booted but sense wouldn't load at all. Start worked but irratic and laggy, settings didn't open.
Tried numerous soft resets but nothing worked.
Did a hard reset and used Microsoft MyPhone to restore contacts, tasks, SMS and calendar all perfect apart from havingbto resync contacts with facebook.
I did have to download all my apps and mods again and confit email etc. A real pain but didn't loose anything valuable,
MyPhone very useful and free.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello,
I use spb backup for over a year and it works more that perfect.
Maybe you are doing something wrong (although I can not imagine what can go wrong in such an easy installation). I have used it for numerous backups and restores.No problem at all. Spb Backup is Highly Recommended.
Regards,
John

Categories

Resources