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Radio Update broke my MDA

Hello everyone.
Im having serious trouble with my MDA i updated just yesterday. Somehow it hung up at 60%. Waited for about 15 Minutes but nothing happened. So restart, but MDA was dead.
I managed it ti load the CE and ROM with an SD from another MDA into the broken one. Went well, the device boots, after 15 minutes, but everything goes very slow.
So managed it to upload the cab file of the RSU on another SD, inserted it, executed, but at 1% it just fails to flash and want to restart the MDA.
I also tested the method someone mentioned with the autorun.exe, didnt help.
In the wallaby bootloader i saw that there is an option to Backup the GSM ROM to SD, but then it wants some kind of "PC Monitor". Thought it might be some kind of hyperterminal connection, but turned out not to be.
So, does anybody here have a clue what to do???

GSM ERROR
Hello there
I've suffered the same problem as many others did.
I suggest one final solution before giving up and believing it's a dead motherboard.
the solution I believe is:
1- Using a working XDA and through the bootloader click on contacts button to get to the flash menu then click on the option for copying rom and GSM to SD.
2- after complete copy use the same SD card in your device (at bootloader)
3- tell me what you get..

Re: GSM ERROR
smiley said:
1- Using a working XDA and through the bootloader click on contacts button to get to the flash menu then click on the option for copying rom and GSM to SD
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Gives me the already mentioned "Please connect RS232 and run PC Monitor" Screen...

If you are sure you have followed all procedure re: 1% screen of death mentioned in various threads in this forum, then you're best bet is to return the unit the your distributor/ service centre for repair.
I had this problem and posted my experiences on several threads. I spent the first 2-3 weeks trying different things without any luck. THen one day, I just return the unit the distributor and they repaired in two days. I was told they had to replace the GSM main board.
My problem was caused by T Mobile radio stack upgrade ( I did not use SD method, so the installation installed Tmobile radio stack on my 900/1800 xda. It worked fine until I accidentally 'checked' the 1900 option...
Just my two cents

Atom Pure GSM Signal Problem ! Help !

I recently have been given a 2nd hand Atom Pure, but when i insert any valid simcard, the atom won't get a signal.
I don't know if locked or unlocked, but I didn't get any warning like " Invalid Simcard " or something else, the atom just can't get any signal ( tried 3 different simcard from 3 different operator )
Anyone have any idea to repair it ? maybe reflash the Radio part ?
I have simmiliar problem with old Qtek smartphone which can't get off the "Flight Mode", tried reflash it didnot work, sent it to warranty and come back healthy ( the seal did not even teared, so maybe it can be done via software ?? )
I can't send it to warranty, cause my friend give it to me from out of country, and I even didn't know that my atom still in warranty period or not.
Please help, It would be a waste if I can't get the GSM part work again
BTW, the ROM 20060426B1WWE.
Thank you

did you tried to reflash ROM?

No, not yet.
I'll try it, as soon as I finish downloading, I'll post the result
Thank you

I download :Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426-MOT0822_1.exe
Flashed the ROM, another problem appear !!
Upgrading Image Rom .......... Succeed
Upgrading BootLoader........... Succeed
Upgrading Ext Rom............... Succeed
Upgrading Radio Stack........... Succeed
Burn Radio Stack.................. Connection Error
Now I stuck at Utility Update screen ???!!
Tried to flash it second time, still got the error
Any idea to fix this ????
Please Help. Thank you

try to flash the older rom

tried to reflash it again, with another PC new active sync 4.2, still the same problem.
Tried to download official rom update fromm seeo2.com, it says there's no update rom for my atom (based on IMEI number, already preloded with the latest ROM), so I can't find the link to download.
@kropotov
Thank you so much for helping me in short notice, If you don't mind would you please give me the link to the older ROM ?? Can't find it here in forum.
Thank you

Try this:
Xda-Atom-ENG-20060105.exe
http://www.rapidshare.ru/91168

@kropotov
Thank you !!, I'll post the result !!!

Just reflashed again with official rom (Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426.exe), "Connection Error" Again ! (tried on three different PC)
Is there another way beside reflashing the ROM ?
Thank you

Xda-Atom-ENG-20060105.exe the result is the same ! tried on 3 different pc.
Is there any way that I can update it via Mini SD card ?
Any other way ?? please help

I thing the problem - the radio stack is locked by operator.... Try to serch for "unlock radio stack"

see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=266758&highlight=unlock+radio

I've read above link you gave me, but it seem all the tools must be used in healthy state or at least can enter in to bootloader mode. while mine can't do anything, stuck in update utility screen (tried all button combination known to man)
I found a way to enter in bootloader mode, but when enter bootloader with mini sd inserted (dummy) it says "Start downloading". what I'm asking which way downloading proccess ?? atom to SD or SD to Atom ?
I found WM5 tool for dumping rom, it not specified for certain device. If I enable to dump healthy image rom to SD (from another and the same version rom of Atom), Is there any way that I can flash it to broken atom without in boot loader mode ??
I will keep reading above link you give me, I will be waiting your next suggestion and help.
Thank you so much.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276664

the problem is I can't get into bootloder mode, always stuck in Upgrade Utility????. tried all button combination though
thank's

Found a way, use rec + camera + reset button.
In DM mode choose Exit DM, and my Ayom live again !!!!!!
BUT, Can't find any GSM in Wireless Setting, WTF !!!!!!
Tried to reflash it again
Thanks

reflash it in normal mode, result GSM gone. reflash it second time in bootloader mode, result good, GSM setting come back, but still can't find any signal ?!
Do I get GSM hardware error ?? or something ??
Thank you

there's a Selftest app. in the programs group, should use it to see what result will return after a GSM module test.

Already did, Self test in program menu and in Diagnostic menu. All result OK.
Just can get signal, I can't make Emergency call either.
Opened the Atom, Antena ok, all seems normal.

Imei & other stuff missing :| What can I do??

Nice thing happened to my hermes200: before christmas I upgraded it to the shap's rom, following the instructions... Everything was great until 2 weeks ago: without doing anything special the phone was not working anymore and the rest of the device was working very slowly. I tried several times a hard-reset but nothing changed. After this I tried to flash the rom with the original htc wm6 but it's impossible: at 12% everything freezes and the wizard says that there's a connection error ..From that moment I tried other several rom from different sites, some are faster and some slower, but every single one has the same problem: the phone doesen't work (It also shows "no GSM" every boot). Other interesting thing is that if it goes in standby, it's impossible to turn it on again and I have to soft-reset it.
But the best and amazing thing I found yesterday is this: if I go on the "device Information" of my device, with ANY rom there's NO RADIO VERSION, NO PROTOCOL VERSION and NO IMEI!!...
I tried to look on the net if someone had the same problem but, up to now, i didn't find any.
Thanks for everything, mediomat.

I too have the same problem with the device information settings. The version tab is displays no version, the Call Duration tab displays incoming and outgoing as unknown, the Identity tab only displays the proper Platform while Model No and IMEI are blank, and Hardware tab displays garbled text. Though, on the Hardware tab, it shows the RAM and Flash size as xxxxxxx MB.
I haven't had any luck either finding a solution to this.

Solution:
1. Check your SPL and flash HardSPL if you don't have it
2. Flash your shipped ROM
3. Repeat step #1
4. Flash back some Hermes cooked ROM
5. Done. Check Device info, if you don't believe me
Best regards,
aDEO

If the radio rom has been corrupted this STILL may not work... Its a brick... Sorry...
Still, no harm in trying....

"Pre-series" S200 flashing issues

Hello,
I work for a mobile phone distributor. As such, we often get from manufacturers "pre-series" handsets that we use to showcase to our customers.
Usually, these handsets are mostly if not fully identical to what will be on the market but the S200 I got hold off yesterday shows a weird OS version : S200_0.019a.00_EN
And it seems the flashing functionnalities have not been implemented on it or even restricted : when trying to flash an official Acer ROM, when pressing "Yes" the following message is displayed on the screen : "KernelIoControl fail ! Your device not support this function. Please check your OS version"
I also tried flashing custom ROMs but they all fail after reboot in FTM mode
I really think the bootloader is special on this unit but can't find any HardSpl or alternative bootloader that I could flash over =(
Thanks for your support

rahan95 said:
Hello,
I work for a mobile phone distributor. As such, we often get from manufacturers "pre-series" handsets that we use to showcase to our customers.
Usually, these handsets are mostly if not fully identical to what will be on the market but the S200 I got hold off yesterday shows a weird OS version : S200_0.019a.00_EN
And it seems the flashing functionnalities have not been implemented on it or even restricted : when trying to flash an official Acer ROM, when pressing "Yes" the following message is displayed on the screen : "KernelIoControl fail ! Your device not support this function. Please check your OS version"
I also tried flashing custom ROMs but they all fail after reboot in FTM mode
I really think the bootloader is special on this unit but can't find any HardSpl or alternative bootloader that I could flash over =(
Thanks for your support
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Seems like you have a pre-production unit, acer does not apply any kind of flashing encription to there phones, so you dont need any hard-spl,soft-spl etc, you should be able to flash your device, since hdubli first rom cooker for the acer s200 also had a pre-production unit, send me screenshot of the back of your device without the battery, il see what i can desiver off of it.

Hello,
Thanks your interest in my issue !
Here are a few pictures of the back of my device + bootscreen :
[img=http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3921/20100214092350.th.jpg]
[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2736/20100214092252.th.jpg]
[img=http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9638/20100214092232.th.jpg]
[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8813/20100214092308.th.jpg]
Thank you

rahan95 said:
Hello,
Thanks your interest in my issue !
Here are a few pictures of the back of my device + bootscreen :
[img=http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3921/20100214092350.th.jpg]
[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2736/20100214092252.th.jpg]
[img=http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9638/20100214092232.th.jpg]
[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8813/20100214092308.th.jpg]
Thank you
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Hmmm this is intresting indeed....have you tryed flashing any of my roms?? what you have there is test bootloader, if do have a flashing security/or no flashing support is withing the bootloader, try flashing my rom as i have the oldest bootloader, let me know how it goes, im very interested in your device.
edit: turn off your device, and press and hold camera, and wile still pressing camera press the reset button, and tell me what it does

Hello,
Actually, I think my test bootloader had nothing to do with my issue but it was rather the flashing tools disliking my Windows 7 on bootcamp =(
Just borrowed a laptop with XP and could flash your latest ROM
Well, actually my phone won't reboot at all (all I get when pressing the power button is the blinking red light) but I guess I will find the solution in your main topic, won't I ?
Removed battery, put it back in, pressed camera and power button then pressed reset but nothing happens
EDIT : looks like I bricked it =( Can't reboot, no matter what I do all I get is that red blinking light
Reflashed, program says procedure is complete but still the same in the end

rahan95 said:
Hello,
Actually, I think my test bootloader had nothing to do with my issue but it was rather the flashing tools disliking my Windows 7 on bootcamp =(
Just borrowed a laptop with XP and could flash your latest ROM
Well, actually my phone won't reboot at all (all I get when pressing the power button is the blinking red light) but I guess I will find the solution in your main topic, won't I ?
Removed battery, put it back in, pressed camera and power button then pressed reset but nothing happens
EDIT : looks like I bricked it =( Can't reboot, no matter what I do all I get is that red blinking light
Reflashed, program says procedure is complete but still the same in the end
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Well its not bricked just yet =], if you press camera and reset and the red light start blinking thats good, it means your device is in download mode(bootloader) so you can save it, but my guess is that your device doesn't have the flashing partition in its nand flash, you would need to flash a proper production CSV this will partition your device nand to production standarts, hence giving you the flashing partition, as this said you would need qualcomm's qpst something qualcomm engineers only have, so for now your device can only boot into bootloader.

Doesn't sound too good =(
I guess I'll never be able to add the flashing partition myself, will I ?
Edit : finding the QPST seems easy on RS, how about the proper production CSV ?
Thanks a lot for your time

rahan95 said:
Doesn't sound too good =(
I guess I'll never be able to add the flashing partition myself, will I ?
Edit : finding the QPST seems easy on RS, how about the proper production CSV ?
Thanks a lot for your time
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This one should work, be aware the QPST is not flashing utility its an engineering tool, meaning you require certain knowledge to use it, if you fail to do so you will render your device completely and utterly useless, good luck.

Before trying QPST, just tried and flashed UFE Nuts rom : it works like a charm !!!

rahan95 said:
Before trying QPST, just tried and flashed UFE Nuts rom : it works like a charm !!!
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Strange hes using my rom as based so mine should have work as well.

Strange indeed ! And then i could flash your rom on.
Only thing is that it aparently lost the radio !

Oh... It's a pity you flashed it so quick We could have used the pre-production rom for various experiments (as I remember, none of the reviewers complained about 2d landscape issues or low headset volume ).

Sorry, no one told me it could be of any interest to you guys =(
By the way, would you know what I should do to flash Radio the radio only ?

If you use the old flasher (i.e. there're plenty of files in rom package - flash.bin/extrom.bin/amss/...), you can try to delete flash,extrom,dsp1 and to leave only amss file.

Will try that when I'm back home, thanks a lot !

I think I've flashed all the ROMs I could find on the forum but without much success : everything works perfectly except the phone =(
All I get is "Phone off" on the desktop and all that is related to phone doesn't work (placing calls, SIM toolkit, connections setting, etc...) just as if there were no SIM card in the handset. I get the "Phone is off, would you like to turn it on ?" message but it never gets to the PIN input screen.
I tried with several SIM cards that work perfectly well in my other phones with the same result
Any idea would be greatly appreciated =)
Thanks

rahan95 said:
I think I've flashed all the ROMs I could find on the forum but without much success : everything works perfectly except the phone =(
All I get is "Phone off" on the desktop and all that is related to phone doesn't work (placing calls, SIM toolkit, connections setting, etc...) just as if there were no SIM card in the handset. I get the "Phone is off, would you like to turn it on ?" message but it never gets to the PIN input screen.
I tried with several SIM cards that work perfectly well in my other phones with the same result
Any idea would be greatly appreciated =)
Thanks
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You need to try different AMSS.MBN these are the Radio part for the acer s200, try flashing the one found in my flashing tools, if dosnt work download difrent Acer OEM roms, and try all the amss.mbn, one of these should work lol, good luck.
rafyvitto

Tried to flash all the AMSS.MBN I found, including the one in your flashing tools but I'm still stuck =(
I'm about to throw the phone through the window =)

rahan95 said:
Tried to flash all the AMSS.MBN I found, including the one in your flashing tools but I'm still stuck =(
I'm about to throw the phone through the window =)
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Hmm it seems that your pre-production device flashing partition is not as big as the normal acer s200 devices, my only guess is that your flashing partition is full thus not been able to flash the amss.mbn, my question is in the flashing process do you see amss.mbn been flashed?? or is it skipped?

Hello
No, the whole procedure goes fine, no error message of any kind and apparently nothing is skipped

Phone always off: Wireless radio off

I did downgrade my radio from 3.42.50 to version 1.x using SPL 0.41
like someone's thread on xda to get standalone GPS.
Now I have an issue, seems like as u said, some portions of radio aren't overwritten.here some symptoms I got :
1. when booting, WM6 said "Phone Off". in comm manager its status is Flight mode. when I turned on the phone, a pop up shown "Phone is off, do you want to turn it on?" I press yes, but the radio shown no signal. when I tried to make call, phone was turned off again. Can't make any calls at all.
I try with some of official and customize rom.Result is the same.
2. when I enter EPST ##778 and make some changes and then press OK, it said "Turn on LPM failed. Press OK to reset device".
Software and Firmware version can't change
It still 3.09.666.1 and radio rom is 3.42.50.
CDMA setting/EPSt show the item "EVRC enabled" is out of range.
EVRC Enabled: Disabled
Home page: Wild
Home Orig: EVRC
Roam Orig: .......
Can't change anything...It will stop with Written Item "..." error
3. when I use QPST to make PRL changes then press Write to phone, the gauge bar showed 100% but then the device automatically reset (soft). The QPST then showed message something like "Writing process not finished".Same problem shown when I tried to back to 3.42.50 with SPL 2.31.
So, any ideas to help this noob?
Thanks a lot
I am quote this word form
edimonoarfa
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=26082
Dangers of downgrading after installing GPS radio (and a little on signing)
Please help me...
I try to solve this problem for a week.
I read in this forums and xda.., I couldn't find the solution.
What should I do?
Anyone can help,
plz contact by E-mail

plz help , or give me an advise

You shouldn't have downgraded the radio. If you got your hands on ImCoKeMaN's guide, you probably should have read it fully before doing anything. In any case, try flashing the Bell rom, which has 3.42.50 on it (it is a stock rom, so you might be in luck). That might help...

Hey did you fix your problem??

im having the exact same problem. any help anybody?

chrisonline909 said:
im having the exact same problem. any help anybody?
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Did you read my post?