Hi there
I already asked at the trinity forum regarding the behavior of [URL="http://www.fring.com/"]Fring in standby mode[/URL]. As I understand Fring is able to receive incoming messages and calls even when a device in the standby mode, it does work in Symbian at least.
I am not sure it should work in WM platform, but my colleagues are able to use Fring successfuly with WM even in standby mode.
So could someone kindly confirm that GPRS connection is able to be kept alive for hours even when a device in standby mode?
Thanks in advance,
Alexey
Not specifically Fring, but I have used software on my Trinity at one point to collect emails and it worked over GPRS even when the phone was in standby.
In your case most likely the software was launched by schedule (like reminders by clock.exe) with establishing a new GPRS connection every time.
I am not sure that GPRS connection was really being kept active all time.
But anyway thank you, deedee, for your feedback.
Actually I have found the answer: Keep Wifi (BT, GPRS and ActiveSync) connected in standby
there are some special magical registry tweaks.
Now Fring works almost fine and I receive chats/calls even being in standby mode for hours, but I really wonder if it is the only way to make Fring worked fine in standby mode!
This problem is also discussed there
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I've doubled checked with different SIMs/providers,
and both 1.03 and 1.60 versions....
Going into explorer, activating GPRS, downloading a large page,
and calling my phone from another cellular, I get "no answer"
and the XDAii never rings!
Has anyone experienced this?
Any solution?
Clearly, Voice should override Data according to GPRS standard,
and it did work for me on Treo 270 and Treo 600. But not here?!
tmobile does this to me with an XDAI
tmobile does this to me with an XDAI running 2003 from yorch, the basic rom, not the tmobile version.
A little useless to have gprs on all the time if you can't get calls, no?
gprs on vs gprs active
well in my case:
GPRS is on, but no data in the last few seconds: calls get in
GPRS is on and data "active": no calls get in
So, it is a problem of being "active" and not just "on" for me.
Like I've said, two different providers (900 & 1800) and both SIMs
worked correctly in a TREO 270/600.
GPRS & Calls
In my case, running an Orange M1000 with a version 1.52 ROM, the call gets through even if I have an active mail sync running using a VPN client and GPRS.
The VPN connection however is killed, but GPRS is re-enabled once the call terminates. The VPN client apparently does not re-connect automatically as it should, but this is not an M1000/XDA II problem.
This is how it is supposed to work, I believe.
Regards
Michael
GPRS & Calls
In my case, running an Orange M1000 with a version 1.52 ROM, the call gets through even if I have an active mail sync running using a VPN client and GPRS.
The VPN connection however is killed, but GPRS is re-enabled once the call terminates. The VPN client apparently does not re-connect automatically as it should, but this is not an M1000/XDA II problem.
This is how it is supposed to work, I believe.
Regards
Michael
Yes, same problem here. If IE is loading a page, the calls go to voice mail. The phone does not even ring.
How can we get around this?
So it is confirmed! help!
Come on people, now I'm pretty sure this is not related to
my locale (hebrew support) and is a global problem with the XDA II.
I can't believe someone else haven't checked it yet?
It is annoying to look something up on the net only to miss a call...
Some other people, please confirm this?
load a big www page in PIE and dial your own number.
Re: So it is confirmed! help!
Ummm....
Try doing this with a P900, Nokia 6600 etc...
I think you'll find this is a 'feature' of GPRS - when GPRS is actively transferring data, the phone bit doesn't work and calls go straight to vmail.
The dual bit - voice calls + downloads - is called 3G
Strange,
when i sync my email with active sync over GPRS the incoming call goes thrue but if i download a page with IE the call gets directly to the voice mail
any ideas??
regards,
Yann
My understanding is that there is nothing you can do. If GPRS is dl'ing, most calls will go to vm.
Should not matter which phone you have.
i'm pretty sure i have seen this confirmed in the documentation for my XDAII that whilst actively browsing using GPRS you cannot receive an incoming call as its downloading data, whether it just be page data or a file download. To recieve an incoming call GPRS can be connected but not active.
chix said:
Yes, same problem here. If IE is loading a page, the calls go to voice mail. The phone does not even ring.
How can we get around this?
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it happened to me when i click on save password everything i enable gprs.
to deal with it u need to either uncheck the save password or delete your previous setting and add a new one. now this time DO NOT check on save password when connecting to gprs.
hope it helps.
Prob a silly question, but once the phone goes into standby (screen turns off), I take it the Wi-Fi connection is broken ?
Asking in case of push mails, because I do not get anything when in standby I take it that because Wi-Fi is also down.
Note - Just trying not to use GPRS, 3G when at home.
Another question does anyone know what the Wi-Fi power does, best battery or best performance other then what it says how is it doing that ?
Yep, Wifi is broken when your phone is in standby.
And Pushmail only works with GPRS and not with Wifi as far as I know.
Cheers,
Drifter
thanks.
Jeegnesh,
To my amazement active sync works when your device is in standby and WLAN is enabled.
I use it now on the office and at home to receive my e-mail.
But to get it working properly you will have to disable "when new items arrive".
My device sync's every 5 minutes and notifies me when there is a new message.
Cheers,
Drifter
Here's a question I've had since WM2003.
How and where is determined, which programs (tasks, threads) CONTINUE to be executed (and at what speed?) when the PDA is put into standby mode?
There are a few programs out there who promise to keep the GPRS / 3G connection alive by sending out a PING every 5 min or so. How is that supposed to work if the program stops being executed?
I still have the bad unreliable GPRS connection issue and am trying to figure out a way to force the phone to keep the connection alive, just like a blackberry.
Any ideas?
Hi all,
I want to be able to sync my e-mails with an Exchange server and I want to do this through Wifi where possible to avoid using GPRS.
I had hoped to use push e-mail through Wifi but it seems that's not possible.
The next best thing therefore is to set up a schedule to get Activesync to do a sync every 15 mins.
I'm finding that even this isn't working as it should. I do get e-mails but it's definitely not syncing every 15 minutes and instead it only seems to sync when the phone is active for a decent length of time. I think the problem is that Wifi isn't active when the phone is in standby and hence activesync is only able to sync when I actually use the phone. Activesync does come up with error 85020006 which seems to be related to not finding a connection.
Is there a way to get Activesync to enable Wifi when it is due to do a sync? Or does anyone have any other ideas of how to get round this?
I did find a reg hack that is supposed to keep Wifi active in standby. The hack didn't seem to work and I don't think it's a good fix to this problem anyway since it will use up so much battery life. Really I just need Wifi to be active when Activesync needs it.
Thanks
Any ideas?
Surely I can't be the only one that wants to do scheduled e-mail syncs through wifi?
i have same problem. did you find a solution ?
Any luck here?
I somehow managed to get this working on my d2 original 6.1 rom.
cant replicate it on dutty hgr 6.5 or stock 6.5
it automatically enabled wifi when syncing with eas server and then turned it off again.
i tested several options to enable wifi in standby, one of then fixend this on demand only wifi when in standby. i have not been able to replicate it again, i would like to have it again though. i disabled gprs and had a constant ping on the phone so i know it woke ut just in time to sync.
please let me know if you find out.
I have a new AT&T Pure with an exchange email address set up to receive emails as they arrive. If the phone is not in standby mode the emails come in without a problem at the same time I receive them in Outlook. Once the phone is in standby mode (screen turns off) emails come in sporadically or not at all until I wake the phone up. If I just set it to dim and not turn screen off I am fine. Is anyone else having this issue?
I've found ActiveSync on my Touch Diamond2 very unreliable. It will work for a while but repllog.exe crashes at some point, usually overnight. Only fix is to restart the phone or manually kill the task - it's often doesn't respond to shutdown (indicating it's crashed) and has to be manually ended. Doing a sync immediately always works.
I'm hoping that they've fix this bug in WM 6.5...
Cheers, Rob.
This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.
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This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.
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You mean by standby, not cable/activesync attached?
I'm still wondering about gmail push, I set everything up as said, but when I'm cabled to my work computer, I don't get gmail.
I have to disconnect and then get gmail push. **sigh**
Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.
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Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.
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No, I unchecked that, same result, even after powering off/on. I think that option is misleading
some thoughts and my experience...
Do you expect emails to arrive over wifi, or gprs, The behavior is different by design.
As they arrive, in schedule settings for example only works as most people expected over gprs.( this is also called microsoft direct push) and can be toggled on/off in settings tab on most htc phones.
this also requires a constant open data connection over gprs. the phone will try to open it for you if you enable direct push option.
its also important that the carrier supports long http requests over grps for direct push to work correctly.(this is why gprs need to be open all the time)
if you deactivate the gprs-data connection, direct push will fail until it succeds a long http to the eas server again.(exchange active sync)
when i use direct push option over gprs, emails always arrive instantly (within a few sec.) to my phone regardless of standby or awake. 98% of the time anyway...
Now i have set mine to sync over wifi. however not pushed to my phone as it only works over gprs.i usually set schedule to 5 min.
if set direct push/as arrive over wifi the schedule seems to change depending on how often emails arrive. the polls seemes to be longer and longer apart if mailbox is idle. schedule a bit unclear...
i figured this out by setting a constant ping from pc to the phone and watched the response in standby mode.( wifi not set to always on even in standby) so i got response time out most of the time.
i noticed that after a certain time the phone began to respond to ping for a few seconds( active sync activated wifi in standby to check email according to my setting in schedule and then deactivated it).
if i had unread emails in my exchange mailbox they arrived in the phone as well.
i also read a paper where the direct push schedule where explained by microsoft. it is constructed that way to save as much bandwidh as possible,
i have based this on my observations only.
it would be nice if someone could find a technical paper explaining this further.
tests was done on htc p3600 and stock topaz. wm 6.1
i will do tests again on the 6.5 rom as they come online.
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Phone is not docked nor am I connected with wifi. Just a GPRS connection. What I mean by standby is that I have the setting enabled to turn off screen after 1 minute.
I have no problem with push email from my exchange server. Remember Push email only works with cell data connection as pointed out. And if you establish ActiveSync connection with a desktop PC, it will be auto-disable and changed to polling instead regardless if you keep the data connection open or not.
I have never connected this phone to a PC.
exchange active sync and wifi
i previously had a TYTNii (Kaiser) which would exchange sync through my home and office wifi (over GPRS) when wifi was available and connected.... However on my Topaz i am unable to exchange sync through wifi when connected for some reason. it will only work through phone connection with wifi off. It appears there are additional connection settings with this WM6.1 device... (priority settings for one connection type over another) but im not sure how to set this up... Help on getting exchange sync working via wifi would be appreciated thanks..