I've doubled checked with different SIMs/providers,
and both 1.03 and 1.60 versions....
Going into explorer, activating GPRS, downloading a large page,
and calling my phone from another cellular, I get "no answer"
and the XDAii never rings!
Has anyone experienced this?
Any solution?
Clearly, Voice should override Data according to GPRS standard,
and it did work for me on Treo 270 and Treo 600. But not here?!
tmobile does this to me with an XDAI
tmobile does this to me with an XDAI running 2003 from yorch, the basic rom, not the tmobile version.
A little useless to have gprs on all the time if you can't get calls, no?
gprs on vs gprs active
well in my case:
GPRS is on, but no data in the last few seconds: calls get in
GPRS is on and data "active": no calls get in
So, it is a problem of being "active" and not just "on" for me.
Like I've said, two different providers (900 & 1800) and both SIMs
worked correctly in a TREO 270/600.
GPRS & Calls
In my case, running an Orange M1000 with a version 1.52 ROM, the call gets through even if I have an active mail sync running using a VPN client and GPRS.
The VPN connection however is killed, but GPRS is re-enabled once the call terminates. The VPN client apparently does not re-connect automatically as it should, but this is not an M1000/XDA II problem.
This is how it is supposed to work, I believe.
Regards
Michael
GPRS & Calls
In my case, running an Orange M1000 with a version 1.52 ROM, the call gets through even if I have an active mail sync running using a VPN client and GPRS.
The VPN connection however is killed, but GPRS is re-enabled once the call terminates. The VPN client apparently does not re-connect automatically as it should, but this is not an M1000/XDA II problem.
This is how it is supposed to work, I believe.
Regards
Michael
Yes, same problem here. If IE is loading a page, the calls go to voice mail. The phone does not even ring.
How can we get around this?
So it is confirmed! help!
Come on people, now I'm pretty sure this is not related to
my locale (hebrew support) and is a global problem with the XDA II.
I can't believe someone else haven't checked it yet?
It is annoying to look something up on the net only to miss a call...
Some other people, please confirm this?
load a big www page in PIE and dial your own number.
Re: So it is confirmed! help!
Ummm....
Try doing this with a P900, Nokia 6600 etc...
I think you'll find this is a 'feature' of GPRS - when GPRS is actively transferring data, the phone bit doesn't work and calls go straight to vmail.
The dual bit - voice calls + downloads - is called 3G
Strange,
when i sync my email with active sync over GPRS the incoming call goes thrue but if i download a page with IE the call gets directly to the voice mail
any ideas??
regards,
Yann
My understanding is that there is nothing you can do. If GPRS is dl'ing, most calls will go to vm.
Should not matter which phone you have.
i'm pretty sure i have seen this confirmed in the documentation for my XDAII that whilst actively browsing using GPRS you cannot receive an incoming call as its downloading data, whether it just be page data or a file download. To recieve an incoming call GPRS can be connected but not active.
chix said:
Yes, same problem here. If IE is loading a page, the calls go to voice mail. The phone does not even ring.
How can we get around this?
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it happened to me when i click on save password everything i enable gprs.
to deal with it u need to either uncheck the save password or delete your previous setting and add a new one. now this time DO NOT check on save password when connecting to gprs.
hope it helps.
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Hi,
Very confused about this. When I go into connections it lists work connections and when I click on manage work connections there is one I added: VirginNet which uses CSD. No other exists.
Whenever I access a web page it keeps trying to connect to O2 Internet using GPRS.
Any ideas how I get it to stop? Do I have to hit the registry?
Cheers
R u sure there's only 'my work network' & no entry like 'my isp'.
if not create one for the csd type you want & check the advanced tab as well. 'my isp' is for internet. 'my work' for lan.
regards, M
Here goes..
If you open connections, go to the second tab, and click the "select networks" button. This is where you tell the operating system what network connection to ue for which application. You'll be specifically interested in the internet portion, which is the first section.
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
borgs said:
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
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Well, you are going to pay for the phone minutes if you use dial up, or you pay for GPRS useage. Actually, I didn't even realize the Magician had a dial up modem...
In any case, you can establish a connection by going to Connections and adding a connection. Select "Cellular Line" (which is the default, and go from there). I haven't done it with the Magician, but I have used dial up with WM2003.
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Man,as far as I learnt from my master courses, the GSM is a method for calling.For data transferring,it's GPRS........So if you wanna IE transfer data for ya,GPRS is needed.
That's not entirely true, you can configure a csd connection like with a regular modem.Which dials a number & have the data over the phone call.
Works OK PIE won't see the diff.
Cheers, M
I'm using CSD rather than GPRS because I can use my voice allowance of 200 minutes per month for data access. I've just checked my bill and, going via VirginNet dialup, it is using my allowance rather than being charged. It's slow but I can access the internet on the small number of occasions that I need to.
The question is; if something requires internet access on my pocket PC will it just go ahead and dial up now? Those 200 minutes won't last long if it fails to disconnect.
I would prefer it if the device would actually ask before it went ahead to get internet access.
Yes it will dial up & show shortly a message with the cancel/hide buttons. I'm on flatfee gprs from TMO & don't bother, so I can use journal bar, timesync, true imap mail (vgs mail), have automatic virus scan updates etc. etc. I guess your 200min. will be gone soon. In the Netherlands the internet dial-up numbers are seperate and expensive, so keep an eye on it.
Cheers, M
It all depends on the application you use.
IE won't connect on its own without you telling it to go to a web page. Messaging won't connect without you telling it to connect occasionally either.
Well-developed programs like Worldmate and PocketWeather won't either. You have to specifically allow them to connect, but it's program-dependent. If you install some rogue program that doesn't ask you, then yes, you will have problems.
Just remember that if you dial up using CSD, you will be connecting at around cellular speed 14.4Kbps (unless you connect to a HS connection, which I'm not sure the JARJAR even supports).
Hi,
Thanks for all the info.
In the end I've created 2 CSD profiles, one with user id info etc. and one without. When I don't intend to use the internet I set it to the one without. If anything attempts to get internet access it gets stuck at the network log on dialog and doesn't actually dial out - unless I accidentally hit the ok button on the handset. Best I can do I think.
When I want internet access I switch to the proper profile and it dials out normally.
Don't see why Microsoft couldn't provide a "Don't dial out" profile but there you go.
Cheers
I had a question pertaining to GSM/GPRS. Will the Magician/Jam, etc be able to upgrade to EDGE service once it is available in the U.S. at a decent rate? Will companies force us to upgrade our devices? How long will GPRS be available to consumers?
Hey all. Downloaded and installed the new Agile messenger beta last night. Let me just say it is phenominal and no issues of button jacking. I assigned the voice command button as my PTT and chatted up my buddy at work who was offline at the time. When I got to work he told me he had received the voice msg loud and clear. I suggest you all grab it while it's still free and hold onto it for later reflashing. After I closed the app my VC button functioned as normal. Hats off for an outstanding product. I wonder what else the released version will have ?
http://agilemobile.com/downloads.html
Thanks!
My pleasure guttrhead. 4 different instant messengers all working at the same time. I can easily text one friend and send voice messages to others. I've only used over wifi so I cannot speak to cellular lines.
Thanks Farooq. (The original diseminator of information) I just beat him to the post. lololol
I installed it and everything went smoothly, but I cannot seem to connect to any of my messengers.can use the Instant Messaging Program that shipped iwth my MDA and that works fine. Any ideas?
Maybe your network selections ? I have mine set to only connect through a wifi connection.
Which button do you use as the push to talk?
I tried various buttons but it doesn't recognize it.
I have the Qtek 9000 Universal btw.
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Maybe your network selections ? I have mine set to only connect through a wifi connection.
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well i use my GPRS setting to connect my other instant messengers. Can this only be used if WiFI is present?
Should work either way, wifi or GPRS/EDGE. I only use the wifi as I'm near several AP's at work and two at home.
deleted dbl post, sorry.
I am using GPRS to connect.
I find the connection cut off or I should say the application stopped after a while of idle.
Can you guys suggest any method to keep the connection on for a long period of time.
thanks
There is a registry key that you have to change for that.
I find that I can get on agile when I have my cingular proxy enabled on my EDGE connection. When I use EDGE without the proxy it works great.
For those of you who are having trouble with GPRS, please try Vijay555's software.
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJVolubilis
It allows you to create icons on the desktop so that you can toggle the GPRS on and off again. Also does Bluetooth, Wifi and others (I only use the 3 above). The instructions that you need to pay attention to is at the bottom of the page where instructions are available for you to put in a simple command to turn on/off the feature you want.
There's also another software out there that is a lot simpler which just turns on the GPRS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49839&highlight=gprs
Try that and see if Agile stays on by toggling the GPRS that way.
FYI, I'm using the vijay555 software. I like it. Always wanted to have icons on the desktop to turn features on and off.
Vijay555 - You're the greatest!
Hope that helps.
is this the version of agile messenger that disconnects the phone from the service operator (when you have to retype your pin and so on)?
the problem we had with the alpha-version...
I'm connected using WiFi but don't seem to be able to send any pictures (from my camera - MDA Pro).
daviden said:
is this the version of agile messenger that disconnects the phone from the service operator (when you have to retype your pin and so on)?
the problem we had with the alpha-version...
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I do not believe this error is present in the beta.
rats. doesn't work for me. just sits there at the google connect ans waits..... and waits..... and, you get the picture.
and hints on getting this working via gtalk?
i'm using a tmobile mda.
thanks.
PS.. how about an option to edit a created account? just being able to add/delete my not allow us to fine tune a defined connection.
mr skot,
as far as I know, t-mobile and google don't play well together.
I've and along with a bunch of others are having problems connecting to google via the T-mobile USA GPRS connection.
That might be the problem you're facing.
Supposedly T-mobile is looking into it.
But a forum member also mentioned that they've been looking into it for a long long time.
Clueless
Ok, so I am still trying to learn how to use the full potential of my MDA. I was told by TMobile that in order to use these applications that utilize the GPRS Network that I had to purchase full internet access that gave me access to GPRS. Is this true? I was under the assumption that GPRS access is included in baasic phone service...
Hi All,
Hopefully someone may help with my query.
I have the HTC Wizard running on O2 UK latest ROM, the cell is unlocked and running another providers card.
The email is configured to check for new POP3 messages every 60mins when I am away from the PC.
The problem is that when it connects the GPRS and checks for messages the GPRS stays connected.
Other cell phones I have used will connect and autodisconnect after checking.
Maybe the GPRS is connected but not sending/receiving data during the idle period?
Can anybody shed some light on this?
Cheers all.
True- This also happens after you send/receive an MMS!
Any way to auto disconnect would be good.
GPRS
After more research I find it doesn't matter if the GPRS is active, as long as it is not sending or receiving data no charges will apply.
Still worrying though and will need to check bill!
thats is a big problem, the baterry life go away....
there no 3ยบ program to do this? no one knows?
disconnect script
Maybe something like this ,modify the script to check and disconnect the GPRS say 5mins after checking your email.
chalky.
Solution
after the send/receive of mail or mms, if you hold the end call button the GPRS will disconnect.
Hey,
I have my tytn set to check emails every 5 minutes using my homes wifi connection. My problem is every once in a while i'll look to find GPRS has connected... this is really annoying me, as i don't know then if email is being checked using wifi or GPRS which costs. MAINLY though bcause I don't know WHY it is doing it.
In connections, my top selection is CONTRACT INTERNET which holds my gprs connection settngs and the bottom one is my work network. the slightest change in either of these STOPS INBOX from checking over wifi giving me an ';error synchronsing message;'
Can anyone tell me WHY my tytn persists with this?
thank you
hey, well incase anyone is reading and looking for a short term fix, UNTICKING the remember password box in gprs settings means if it attempts to dial, it CAN'T connect without the password being ntered. not ideal, but it at least stops any nasty surprises when you don't expect them
I had the same issue with WM 5. After upgrading the device to WM 6 this problem was solved for me.
Here is what I'm Trying to do:
~Find a Wm6 or Wm6.1 that would allow me to setup and use the phone with out a data connection from A&TT, but would like to only use WIFI to access the Web, email & facebook...etc...etc
~What threads, rom, tricks, cabs or tweaks where used to achieve this... while still being able to use email & the web via WIFI only?
~I've tried several Roms all installed no problem except setting up email accounts and intermittent web access issues when the phone goes into standby.
~I've set up a Window live email account but have very inconsistent connections issues. (Mostly not working)
~Frequent connection errors...
Any suggestion, pointers would be great!
As far as i know the first port of call for wm phones is to try and connect via a data plan, it will only try via wifi if you have it switched on and connected, i havent found a way of getting it to automatically try to connect to wifi. So good luck in finding it , as i have been on here for years and still dont know how to do it.
I know its not exactly useful, but just letting you know, dont think its going to be easy
You can use NoData to prevent it from trying to use a data plan (2G, 3G, etc).
I don't have a data plan at all; this is what I do to force it to use only activesync passthrough or wifi:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
The No-data cab did not help.... Did nor notice any changes... Outlook continues to pop open every few minutes. Not sure what the cause is however the phone works fine when I connect it with WIFI. is there some reg-edit to stop the outlook pop up? Let me give some more info that may help...
Using:
~Window Live Hotmail client with in Pocket Outlook
~Do not have a data plan for the phone (AT&T 8525 Hermes)
~The Only way the phone connects to the web or email is via WIFI
All suggestions welcome....
jac said:
The No-data cab did not help.... Did nor notice any changes... Outlook continues to pop open every few minutes. Not sure what the cause is however the phone works fine when I connect it with WIFI. is there some reg-edit to stop the outlook pop up? Let me give some more info that may help...
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The nodata cab installs the nodata program - check your programs menu. Run the nodata program and you can toggle off your connections.