Hi,
Very confused about this. When I go into connections it lists work connections and when I click on manage work connections there is one I added: VirginNet which uses CSD. No other exists.
Whenever I access a web page it keeps trying to connect to O2 Internet using GPRS.
Any ideas how I get it to stop? Do I have to hit the registry?
Cheers
R u sure there's only 'my work network' & no entry like 'my isp'.
if not create one for the csd type you want & check the advanced tab as well. 'my isp' is for internet. 'my work' for lan.
regards, M
Here goes..
If you open connections, go to the second tab, and click the "select networks" button. This is where you tell the operating system what network connection to ue for which application. You'll be specifically interested in the internet portion, which is the first section.
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
borgs said:
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
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Well, you are going to pay for the phone minutes if you use dial up, or you pay for GPRS useage. Actually, I didn't even realize the Magician had a dial up modem...
In any case, you can establish a connection by going to Connections and adding a connection. Select "Cellular Line" (which is the default, and go from there). I haven't done it with the Magician, but I have used dial up with WM2003.
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Man,as far as I learnt from my master courses, the GSM is a method for calling.For data transferring,it's GPRS........So if you wanna IE transfer data for ya,GPRS is needed.
That's not entirely true, you can configure a csd connection like with a regular modem.Which dials a number & have the data over the phone call.
Works OK PIE won't see the diff.
Cheers, M
I'm using CSD rather than GPRS because I can use my voice allowance of 200 minutes per month for data access. I've just checked my bill and, going via VirginNet dialup, it is using my allowance rather than being charged. It's slow but I can access the internet on the small number of occasions that I need to.
The question is; if something requires internet access on my pocket PC will it just go ahead and dial up now? Those 200 minutes won't last long if it fails to disconnect.
I would prefer it if the device would actually ask before it went ahead to get internet access.
Yes it will dial up & show shortly a message with the cancel/hide buttons. I'm on flatfee gprs from TMO & don't bother, so I can use journal bar, timesync, true imap mail (vgs mail), have automatic virus scan updates etc. etc. I guess your 200min. will be gone soon. In the Netherlands the internet dial-up numbers are seperate and expensive, so keep an eye on it.
Cheers, M
It all depends on the application you use.
IE won't connect on its own without you telling it to go to a web page. Messaging won't connect without you telling it to connect occasionally either.
Well-developed programs like Worldmate and PocketWeather won't either. You have to specifically allow them to connect, but it's program-dependent. If you install some rogue program that doesn't ask you, then yes, you will have problems.
Just remember that if you dial up using CSD, you will be connecting at around cellular speed 14.4Kbps (unless you connect to a HS connection, which I'm not sure the JARJAR even supports).
Hi,
Thanks for all the info.
In the end I've created 2 CSD profiles, one with user id info etc. and one without. When I don't intend to use the internet I set it to the one without. If anything attempts to get internet access it gets stuck at the network log on dialog and doesn't actually dial out - unless I accidentally hit the ok button on the handset. Best I can do I think.
When I want internet access I switch to the proper profile and it dials out normally.
Don't see why Microsoft couldn't provide a "Don't dial out" profile but there you go.
Cheers
I had a question pertaining to GSM/GPRS. Will the Magician/Jam, etc be able to upgrade to EDGE service once it is available in the U.S. at a decent rate? Will companies force us to upgrade our devices? How long will GPRS be available to consumers?
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My vario randomly connects to GPRS without asking me, i suspect this will be costing me on my bill, so I'd like to turn it off. How do i do that?
my XDA mini s does the same. But it is a WM problem. Let me describe my common situation.
Connected to Wifi, running MSN Messenger. Left device for a while and it went sleeping. It also turns off Wifi! But then when MSN needs to connect in the background, it goes to GPRS!! When I wake up my device, it has already used GPRS for MSN and when it wakes, it tries to connect back to my Wifi!!!!
I'm on roaming so the GPRS is dear-er.
Best way, is to create a null modem, or invalid connection. Set your device to connect to that null connection automatically when requesting for internet access. Not the best, but at least it won't cost you or me.
The thing is it does it when I'm not even doing anything, it just pops that gprs icon up and does its own thing.
OK I didnt quite follow what you said there, so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....
Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)
so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....[/quote]
lol like your response,
I do agree with Humps, dont know of a way to turn of the gprs but his way does ensure it wont connect on its own.
when you goto settings/connections/connections (this is wm2003 that i refer to) you will see your t-mobile settings.
and the options to manage existing connections. go into here and create a new connection give it anyname you want (you want it not to work) give it any settings it will accept that are wrong,
then from the connections page at the bottom you have tasks and advanced.
when you want GPRS active goto advanced and select t-mobile
when you dont want it to be able to connect go back to the advanced screen and select the dodgy one you just created.
then if it tries to connect the settings will all be wrong and it will fail.
good plan.
I really wish it would ask permission to go online with gprs...personally I changed the name of the access point in my o2 settings, so it can't connect until I change it back to the proper name.
John
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Even after a 30 second press, it still stays connected with the 'G' icon in the top of the screen.
I've tried setting up a new GPRS called dummy, so I'll se how it goes.
Is it the big [G] icon, or the small G with arrows around it?
Because the former just means that GPRS is available - only the latter means that you're connected to it.
you want to give SPB GPRS Monitor a try, even if only for the trial it will let you know if its using any while its idle,
good app would be well worth keeping in it.
OK people, I know this site is supposed to be really great, but I have some simple problems, and I can't find the answers by browsing and searching this site. Hell, I can't even identify which phone I'm using....
I bought an XDA Mini S, so what's that called? A kangaroo or something I guess. anyway - I'm about to see if it'll survive being launched high into the air, that's for sure.
I have a home network, a windows small business server running exchange 2003, an ADSL router/firewall and some PC's.
ALL (!?) I want this damn thing to do is surf the network, and the internet whilst at home using a wireless connection. Then whilst it's out and about - to VPN back to home so I can do the same.
However, the set up of this thing is a right nightmare to understand, "My ISP", "My network", "Work", I can't seem to make logical sense of how this thing operates in a networking environment, and I do understand networks pretty well, so this is VERY vexing, hence why this is flying out the window soon.
Anybody feel they can spare some explanations as to how this thing is structured? If I click on anymore settings I might just go mad gibber dribble.
Paulsco - welcome to the board!
Not to sound like a father, but seriously, go and have a game of Call of Duty or something. That's what I do when I'm stressed. It's not worth throwing the thing out of the window. And if you are in a mood to get rid of it, throw it in my direction. I need a Mini S for development!
Ok, what have you done so far?
Have you got it browsing the net through ActiveSync yet?
Ensure that you can sync, then go to ActiveSync, File Menu, Options, and choose "This computer is connected to " The internet.
Then, ensure that your PDA is set to reflect this as well, the internet.
Then hopefully the two should permit you to browse the net through your ActiveSync connection. Try Internet Explorer on the PDA.
If and when you're doing that, then you can progress to wifi and VPN etc.
For wifi, I've always found this useful:
http://wifi.aximsite.com/wifi_net.html
V
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I bought an XDA Mini S, so what's that called?
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That's easy - it's the HTC Wizard.
HTC is the comapny that actually makes it and Wizard is HTC's name for it.
Thanks for the response!
That's for the advice - I think I have worn out all the games...
OK - so here is the sit. Make some tea and take a deep breath!
I've got my "wizard" to to most things, it'll sync with Exchange over wifi OR it will sync with a PC via bluetooth, but it won't do both. that's not a real issue though.
Also I can surf the internet via wifi, and I can do this via GPRS, but here is what I need to sort out:
I have two connections listed under settings>connections>connections
The first is the O2 GRPS My ISP connection, and the second is the "My work network" connection. I have defined a VPN to connect back to my firewall in this last connection, but I had to delete the O2 Active default connection in this connection because it kept dialing grps instead of using wifi.
In connections>advanced>network management I have both boxes set to "My work network". this prevents any GPRS calls, until I change the setting. Great, I'd rather not have to have done this, but it does seem to work...
Only thing is, when I am out I tried to connect back to the exchange box and I got from activesync "Your exchange account does not allow syncing, blah blah" which it obviously does because it works from the local network. I have opened all the activesync ports on the firewall.
I hoped to be able to connect the VPN, but this seemed to be impossible with my current config.
I need to be able to configure this so that I can browse my wifi network both locally and remotely. I have managed to get the VPN to connect, but I have no idea why this works sometimes and not others - when you click on connect, you get a beep...and nothing else, no error messages or anything.
So I want to get exchange mail whilst wifi'd: OK that worked this AM because I told everything to use "My work network" that has no GPRS connection defined, but when I wnet out I hthen changed the setting so that it dialed the O2 GPRS connection for Internet, then I got internet, but no VPN connection. then when I returned to the office, I had to soft boot because no matter what I dod, activesync gave me "cannot connect with current settings" - A soft boot cured that, but it's not a real great solution every time you return to the office.
Any help you can give me would be gratefully received! I'll happily bung cash to people for a solution!!!
thanks and regards,
Paul
This doesnt seem normal to me as i dont remember this happening when i first got my 8125. When i go to internet explorer after i turn on wifi and connect to my home network it starts loading the page and then the connecting to gprs dialog box shows up. It still seems like it is using wifi but when i click on the wifi signal the gprs time meter is counting up. It seems to me like it shouldnt try to connect to gprs if the wifi signal is already picked up and connected. I thought i remembered reading about this somewhere but ive read so many topics in different places that i cant find it. Is this normal or should i do something to fix it? Thanks in advance.
Ty
anyone?
i just did this last night ..hopefully i rememebr the steps
but what you essentially have to do is remove the connection to the GPRS network and then itll stop connectinig to GPRS brb with an edit ill have to retrace my steps
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ok i think this is how i did it
tap start --settings -- connections tab -- then tap on connections and then make sure that there are no connections for GPRS i know its a little vague but i really forgot how i did it..
can't say that that helped me to much, sorry. I dont want to eliminate the gprs all together, i just dont want it to connect when im using wifi. Please help!
even with wifi on when it goes to sleep it will be the gprs that kicks in - pain in the butt :shock:
im just looking for a fix for this. Unfortunately my work doesnt have wifi so i cant test some things ive read here to see if it still does it. I have tried going into connections-network adapters- and selecting "the internet". Also, when i go to settings--connections--connections-advanced should i have media net, my isp, or my work selected? not sure if this has anything to do with my problem but i just want to make sure. Also, when i am connected to wifi and my gprs timer is also going, which is it using? I have an unlimited data plan so its not the biggest deal if its running but i just want to make sure im using wifi, not gprs.
RegistryWizard?
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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nope, I don't have that program...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=320173#320173
You will select either 'My work network' or 'My ISP' depending on which rom you're using. If MEdia Net is selected, it will use GPRS. To tell whether or not it will use GPRS on any of these settings, you hit the 'edit' button. Don't change anything, but check it out, and it will tell you whether it will connect to GPRS if anything is in there. For me, 'My ISP' has 'auto pick' which means if it finds wifi or wifi is enabled, it will use that first, if not then use GPRS. If you have a stock rom, 'My ISP' may not have anything in it, therefore it will use wifi, or nothing. Remember to associate any wireless router you have to either your 'work' or 'internet' profiles.
awsome, looks like that worked. One question though....am i affected in any way by not having it set to media net? Will my edge and everything still work the same if i leave it on my isp? Thanks for the help
Ty
EDIT: It works better than it did but every so often it trys to connect to edge but it usually doesnt unless im inactive for a bit online. Is this supposed to happen?
I now leave my setting set to ISP instead of MediaNet and at first it is just connected to wifi but then as soon as it is done loading a page gprs tries to connect again so i have to hit cancel like 6 or 7 times to stop gprs from connecting. After that it doesnt try to connect but i wish i could avoid this because its a pain when im just trying to find something real fast. I just downloaded opera today and only tried a few pages on my wifi network and from the couple minutes i used it i dont think it ever tried to connect to the gprs while i was using wifi. i will have to test this a little bit more to confirm but is there any way its IE that could be causing the gprs to try and connect even though it has a full wifi signal?
I just got an HTC wizard and have one question - is there a way to tell if data you are downloading is via wifi or from the service provider? I only ask because I want to use wifi, but fear something not working as expected and later realizing all the data went down as data usage on my bill, which would be a problem at this point since I don't want to pay for a data plan.
Furthermore, with AT&T the data usage doesn't get posted to the website for a few days, and by then it's too late to realize something was going wrong and I will owe them a nice amount of money. Not a good thing.
Preferably I'd like to say 'use wifi or nothing', meaning if there is no wifi connectivity, don't download anything. I'm not sure if this is an option or not though as I haven't seen it.
Anyways, any advice on this would be great. Thanks in advance.
Just remove your GPRS account from your network settings. (called cingular.wap) Also remove any dial-up versions of it.
Then the only way the phone will know how to access intertubes is via WiFi, and Bob's your uncle.
I'm not quite sure where this is at. I have a lot of network connection options. I go to start - settings - connections tab. Here I have network wizard, connections, wifi, wireless lan, gprs setting, and a couple unrelated ones.
Under connections, there is an advanced tab. I clicked 'select networks' and then created a new one, called 'home'. I then set that for both drop boxes. I didn't enter in any dial information for it. This got internet explorer working (it used to not find the page), but mentions mediaNet and stuff. I'm not sure if that just happens by default or if that means I'm connected through AT&T.
I tried to find a way to delete GPRS from it, but I couldn't. Under select networks, I can edit 'my ISP' which has name 'My ISP GPRS'. I can click edit, but do not quite see what you have. access point name is set to isp.cingular which I can change to some other value. I can modify username and such, but that is it.
I don't know. Just trying to watch that data usage when there is wireless LAN all around me everywhere I go.
i just got my phone not a week ago(the Sprint HTC Touch) and just realized that my company does not allow phones with internet access, i was wondering if there was a way i could disable the internet on the phone, so that i dont accidentally fat finger it and open something up... thanks in advance
How about turning off "Data Connection" from the Comm Manager?
i havent tried it, but have you tried deleting the modem settings?
you know, the ones that dial out #777. or maybe you can just get it to dial elsewhere
as far as i know there is no way to do that without deleting the #777 connection in setting/connections/manage current connection.
But then you will not be able to send picture and video message. As that is the same connection it uses.
Also as soon as you soft reset the device. the connection is back again.
Really I don't understand how your company is able to put a cap on this, as most every cell phone now and day can access the internet. Even if it's not activated on the phone, you can still access for a use per minute charge.
And I'm not just talking about pda/phones.
Unless I'm wrong. But i have yet to find one that doesn't.
Call Sprint and have them "Disable NAI Functionality" on your phone. It's a service feature that restricts your device from accessing any kind of data.
settings->connections->connections->advanced->select networks
there are some texts showing "programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using"
and a dropdownbox
select the dropdownbox item which is not called something like "my isp"
but pick the one thats called something like "my network"
then all programs trying to access the internet will be forced to use activesync as internet connection and if activesync is not connected they will fail!
thanks.
I have been trying to figure this out for ages. Thanks for your help.
thanks for all of your help, i dont agree with my company, but i really like this phone, i just need to show them that it does not work for a few months then after they stop checking i can re-enable it.