I just got an HTC wizard and have one question - is there a way to tell if data you are downloading is via wifi or from the service provider? I only ask because I want to use wifi, but fear something not working as expected and later realizing all the data went down as data usage on my bill, which would be a problem at this point since I don't want to pay for a data plan.
Furthermore, with AT&T the data usage doesn't get posted to the website for a few days, and by then it's too late to realize something was going wrong and I will owe them a nice amount of money. Not a good thing.
Preferably I'd like to say 'use wifi or nothing', meaning if there is no wifi connectivity, don't download anything. I'm not sure if this is an option or not though as I haven't seen it.
Anyways, any advice on this would be great. Thanks in advance.
Just remove your GPRS account from your network settings. (called cingular.wap) Also remove any dial-up versions of it.
Then the only way the phone will know how to access intertubes is via WiFi, and Bob's your uncle.
I'm not quite sure where this is at. I have a lot of network connection options. I go to start - settings - connections tab. Here I have network wizard, connections, wifi, wireless lan, gprs setting, and a couple unrelated ones.
Under connections, there is an advanced tab. I clicked 'select networks' and then created a new one, called 'home'. I then set that for both drop boxes. I didn't enter in any dial information for it. This got internet explorer working (it used to not find the page), but mentions mediaNet and stuff. I'm not sure if that just happens by default or if that means I'm connected through AT&T.
I tried to find a way to delete GPRS from it, but I couldn't. Under select networks, I can edit 'my ISP' which has name 'My ISP GPRS'. I can click edit, but do not quite see what you have. access point name is set to isp.cingular which I can change to some other value. I can modify username and such, but that is it.
I don't know. Just trying to watch that data usage when there is wireless LAN all around me everywhere I go.
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Hi,
Very confused about this. When I go into connections it lists work connections and when I click on manage work connections there is one I added: VirginNet which uses CSD. No other exists.
Whenever I access a web page it keeps trying to connect to O2 Internet using GPRS.
Any ideas how I get it to stop? Do I have to hit the registry?
Cheers
R u sure there's only 'my work network' & no entry like 'my isp'.
if not create one for the csd type you want & check the advanced tab as well. 'my isp' is for internet. 'my work' for lan.
regards, M
Here goes..
If you open connections, go to the second tab, and click the "select networks" button. This is where you tell the operating system what network connection to ue for which application. You'll be specifically interested in the internet portion, which is the first section.
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
borgs said:
I had no My ISP section but it obviously still had the details somewhere. I've had to hard reset and start again.
Thanks for the replies though.
I guess, even with a CSD rather than GPRS, if something on my pocketPC tries to connect it will still cost me.
I seem to remember in Pocket PC 2000 that it couldn't do this on its own, it always needed permission.
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Well, you are going to pay for the phone minutes if you use dial up, or you pay for GPRS useage. Actually, I didn't even realize the Magician had a dial up modem...
In any case, you can establish a connection by going to Connections and adding a connection. Select "Cellular Line" (which is the default, and go from there). I haven't done it with the Magician, but I have used dial up with WM2003.
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Man,as far as I learnt from my master courses, the GSM is a method for calling.For data transferring,it's GPRS........So if you wanna IE transfer data for ya,GPRS is needed.
That's not entirely true, you can configure a csd connection like with a regular modem.Which dials a number & have the data over the phone call.
Works OK PIE won't see the diff.
Cheers, M
I'm using CSD rather than GPRS because I can use my voice allowance of 200 minutes per month for data access. I've just checked my bill and, going via VirginNet dialup, it is using my allowance rather than being charged. It's slow but I can access the internet on the small number of occasions that I need to.
The question is; if something requires internet access on my pocket PC will it just go ahead and dial up now? Those 200 minutes won't last long if it fails to disconnect.
I would prefer it if the device would actually ask before it went ahead to get internet access.
Yes it will dial up & show shortly a message with the cancel/hide buttons. I'm on flatfee gprs from TMO & don't bother, so I can use journal bar, timesync, true imap mail (vgs mail), have automatic virus scan updates etc. etc. I guess your 200min. will be gone soon. In the Netherlands the internet dial-up numbers are seperate and expensive, so keep an eye on it.
Cheers, M
It all depends on the application you use.
IE won't connect on its own without you telling it to go to a web page. Messaging won't connect without you telling it to connect occasionally either.
Well-developed programs like Worldmate and PocketWeather won't either. You have to specifically allow them to connect, but it's program-dependent. If you install some rogue program that doesn't ask you, then yes, you will have problems.
Just remember that if you dial up using CSD, you will be connecting at around cellular speed 14.4Kbps (unless you connect to a HS connection, which I'm not sure the JARJAR even supports).
Hi,
Thanks for all the info.
In the end I've created 2 CSD profiles, one with user id info etc. and one without. When I don't intend to use the internet I set it to the one without. If anything attempts to get internet access it gets stuck at the network log on dialog and doesn't actually dial out - unless I accidentally hit the ok button on the handset. Best I can do I think.
When I want internet access I switch to the proper profile and it dials out normally.
Don't see why Microsoft couldn't provide a "Don't dial out" profile but there you go.
Cheers
I had a question pertaining to GSM/GPRS. Will the Magician/Jam, etc be able to upgrade to EDGE service once it is available in the U.S. at a decent rate? Will companies force us to upgrade our devices? How long will GPRS be available to consumers?
This doesnt seem normal to me as i dont remember this happening when i first got my 8125. When i go to internet explorer after i turn on wifi and connect to my home network it starts loading the page and then the connecting to gprs dialog box shows up. It still seems like it is using wifi but when i click on the wifi signal the gprs time meter is counting up. It seems to me like it shouldnt try to connect to gprs if the wifi signal is already picked up and connected. I thought i remembered reading about this somewhere but ive read so many topics in different places that i cant find it. Is this normal or should i do something to fix it? Thanks in advance.
Ty
anyone?
i just did this last night ..hopefully i rememebr the steps
but what you essentially have to do is remove the connection to the GPRS network and then itll stop connectinig to GPRS brb with an edit ill have to retrace my steps
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ok i think this is how i did it
tap start --settings -- connections tab -- then tap on connections and then make sure that there are no connections for GPRS i know its a little vague but i really forgot how i did it..
can't say that that helped me to much, sorry. I dont want to eliminate the gprs all together, i just dont want it to connect when im using wifi. Please help!
even with wifi on when it goes to sleep it will be the gprs that kicks in - pain in the butt :shock:
im just looking for a fix for this. Unfortunately my work doesnt have wifi so i cant test some things ive read here to see if it still does it. I have tried going into connections-network adapters- and selecting "the internet". Also, when i go to settings--connections--connections-advanced should i have media net, my isp, or my work selected? not sure if this has anything to do with my problem but i just want to make sure. Also, when i am connected to wifi and my gprs timer is also going, which is it using? I have an unlimited data plan so its not the biggest deal if its running but i just want to make sure im using wifi, not gprs.
RegistryWizard?
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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nope, I don't have that program...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=320173#320173
You will select either 'My work network' or 'My ISP' depending on which rom you're using. If MEdia Net is selected, it will use GPRS. To tell whether or not it will use GPRS on any of these settings, you hit the 'edit' button. Don't change anything, but check it out, and it will tell you whether it will connect to GPRS if anything is in there. For me, 'My ISP' has 'auto pick' which means if it finds wifi or wifi is enabled, it will use that first, if not then use GPRS. If you have a stock rom, 'My ISP' may not have anything in it, therefore it will use wifi, or nothing. Remember to associate any wireless router you have to either your 'work' or 'internet' profiles.
awsome, looks like that worked. One question though....am i affected in any way by not having it set to media net? Will my edge and everything still work the same if i leave it on my isp? Thanks for the help
Ty
EDIT: It works better than it did but every so often it trys to connect to edge but it usually doesnt unless im inactive for a bit online. Is this supposed to happen?
I now leave my setting set to ISP instead of MediaNet and at first it is just connected to wifi but then as soon as it is done loading a page gprs tries to connect again so i have to hit cancel like 6 or 7 times to stop gprs from connecting. After that it doesnt try to connect but i wish i could avoid this because its a pain when im just trying to find something real fast. I just downloaded opera today and only tried a few pages on my wifi network and from the couple minutes i used it i dont think it ever tried to connect to the gprs while i was using wifi. i will have to test this a little bit more to confirm but is there any way its IE that could be causing the gprs to try and connect even though it has a full wifi signal?
OK, this 8125 is pissing me off. I want to use Wifi *exclusively* for web access. I don't want this thing to *ever* connect via GPRS, but I have no idea how to set it that way. I've searched but don't find anything along these lines, is there an easy way to do this?
Thanks!
Jason
well i have mine set that way "i think"
also i believe, someone else can chime in, as long as WIFI is turned on via the comm manager, its gonna overrule any other connection type like gprs or edge.
then what i did was go to to settings>connections>connections and make sure the first one selected is My ISP. then under your Wireless Lan connections settings, under the Power Mode tab, set that to best performance.
after that all I ever see up top is the WiFi icon. and if im not in a hotspot, E is there, but if i press explorer it just takes me to the media net page to login, so no data gets used anyway.
Dont know about 8125, but on my T-mobile MDA, I went to
settings->connections->connections.
There I deleted the configuration which had GPRS. Now my device tries to find wifi network or gives up.
Deleting the GPRS settings seems a bit drastic. Is there no way to say have separate "profiles". That way you could have a wifi only mode, and then when absolutlely necessary you could still use GPRS. I would be very interested in a solution like that, bit more flexible I think.
yes, wifi does take the default connection.. it will only try to use edge if there is no wifi connection present.
Or you can use the Registry Wizard and on page 4 select GPRS off...
My brother gave me his 8525 after his girlfriend bought him a new phone. I then unlocked it using the unlocker that i found here so that I could use it on tmobile. I am on a prepaid plan and there is no way to get internet through tmobile with prepaid, but the WIFI should still work, but it doesnt. I can get it to connect to a network but when i open IE it wont go to any web adress i type in. Any ideas????
try changing your wifi power mode to best performance
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Tried that, and it didnt make any difference.
When I try to go to a site it says " Cannot Connect: Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap settings"
I have tried messing around with the settings, but i still cant get it to work right.
I think IE is still trying to connect to the internet via AT&T's network service instead of going through wifi.
Under start>settings>system do you have a proxy folder? maybe it's under programs as well. Look for it. If you do, run disable proxy.
Also go to start>settings>connections>network cards>network adapters
make sure this is reads under "my network card connects to: the internet"
select your 802.11b/g and make it "use server assigned ip address"
Hopefully that helps
hey man thanks for the tips, but it still is not working.
I found my proxy folder and ran disable proxy, my card is set to connect to the internet and it uses the server assigned IP adress.
But now when i try to use the internet it does not give me the "can not connect due to your settings" message, it just keeps trying to load the page but nothing happens.
go to start>settings>connections
click on connections
go to the advanced tab and click on select networks
on the first dropdown make it "my isp"
with the second select "my work network"
That should do it
i think that worked. Im not near a strong wifi signal right now but i think its doing the right thing. Ill know for sure tomorrow.
Thanks Pedro 2K
I was having the same issue on my 8525 after going to 6. Seems fine now. I'll try from work on Monday.
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well as it turns out that did not work. I still think it has somtething to do with it trying to connect to AT&t's network.
any other ideas?
i posted in another thread about a similar issue that i have and it is still not solved
some programs that use data on my device will not connect using 3g (pocket outlook using gmail), but they will connect when the wifi is on
it's kind of the opposite of what's going on with yours, but i believe the root of the problem is the same, because we are getting the exact same error message
i believe the problem stems from how/why windows mobile 6 organizes connections; which makes no sense to me whatsoever
under connections i have:
"My ISP"
"MEdia Net"
"Work"
Of course there is nothing even under my isp, or work, yet it wont let me delete them
i tried deleting them manually from the registry and that messed a whole lot of things up, so plz do not make that mistake
my media net settings ARE correct, but why are there so many different connections here, that arent even being used, yet i cant remove them?
what the hell is "MY Isp" ? I thought Media net was my isp...lol
this is confusing and frustrating
any more ideas????
Try disabling and data connections using this:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
This should make sure it is trying to go through wireless. Just a quick question, you are not connected to activsync while trying wifi are you?
ok, since you're using t-mobile, and only just want to use wifi, do this
go to start>settings>connections->connections->advanced
switch both to "my isp", click on edit (either one is fine), delete the modem number in there.
The last thing you need to do is disable the hidden proxy proxy. I dont know exactly how, cause i dont use the AT&T rom anymore, but its somewhere in the start menu, just poke around, there should be a "disable proxy' somewhere
@ surgex0
if you think that's confusing......on the tilt, they've added a 4th one.......AT&T ISP. But basically, whatever settings that was in My ISP, is now in AT&T ISP.
Hey all. I've searched posts and can't find anything but what other people used for a quick backyard fix to get them past. Here's the deal. My phone connects to the Verizon Data Network all the time, even when I'm connected to WiFi. On my Apache, I could go into Settings, Connections, Connections and set the advanced settings so programs needing to connect automatically would use My Work Network instead of Verizon Wireless. However, on my 6800, I change the same setting for the same effect and as soon as I hit ok, it reverts back so it tries connecting to the net via cellular again instead of via WiFi. This isn't the only setting I've found that won't stick, but I can't remember what those ones are. Has anyone found the cause to this and the solution? Possibly a file that's write-protected and shouldn't be or something. I don't have a data plan and can't afford one so I really need this to change and still be able to get MMS when I need to (don't want to disable data completely on Verizon's end). Help!
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