Prob a silly question, but once the phone goes into standby (screen turns off), I take it the Wi-Fi connection is broken ?
Asking in case of push mails, because I do not get anything when in standby I take it that because Wi-Fi is also down.
Note - Just trying not to use GPRS, 3G when at home.
Another question does anyone know what the Wi-Fi power does, best battery or best performance other then what it says how is it doing that ?
Yep, Wifi is broken when your phone is in standby.
And Pushmail only works with GPRS and not with Wifi as far as I know.
Cheers,
Drifter
thanks.
Jeegnesh,
To my amazement active sync works when your device is in standby and WLAN is enabled.
I use it now on the office and at home to receive my e-mail.
But to get it working properly you will have to disable "when new items arrive".
My device sync's every 5 minutes and notifies me when there is a new message.
Cheers,
Drifter
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Did someone notice this when you Sync your device with an exchange server ?
If you leave the WLAN on and your device is in standby, your device will wake up to synchronise your device according the schedule of active sync via an AP.
When it does this your screen remains black and gives a notification when new mail arrives.
Battery consumption is low because WLAN will only be waken for the synchronisation and goes to sleep again after it.
I’ve tested this for the last week in the office were we have an AP an at home and it works perfectly.
The only disadvantage is when you’re out of the office it will give you a notification of every AP it picks up in your neighbourhood.
So you have to shut it down when you’re leaving home or the office.
This function was missing on my Wizard so I was still using my HP h6340 for this. But now I can leave this one at home.
Hopefully this function will stay after a few ROM upgrades.
Cheers,
Drifter
Hi, basically I would like to recieve email based on a time schedule (10-15 minutes)while Im on a wifi network. To achieve that, I used some wifi tweaks...
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
but they just set wifi not to turn off. So the battery drain is huge.
A perfect solution would be connecting to the wifi every 10 to 15 minutes for a few seconds, to check email, and then turn wifi off.
Any help is appreciated!
If you poll outlook mail try asynckiller.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2136914
tyguy said:
If you poll outlook mail try asynckiller.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2136914
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Im sorry, but I think you missed my point. Its a gmail account through IMAP.
Thanks anyway
laser21 said:
Hi, basically I would like to recieve email based on a time schedule (10-15 minutes)while Im on a wifi network. To achieve that, I used some wifi tweaks...
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000001
but they just set wifi not to turn off. So the battery drain is huge.
A perfect solution would be connecting to the wifi every 10 to 15 minutes for a few seconds, to check email, and then turn wifi off.
Any help is appreciated!
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I've created a Script (Mortscript) to power on WiFi with WiFi profiler [1] and check whether there is a WiFi accesspoint available, if not enable GRPS/UMTS/HSDPA to synchronize email.
After that the script closes the Connections and turns off WiFi and finally reschedules the next synchronisation time
The only problem is that Mortscripts do not run in unattended mode[2]. So I need to find a solution for this remaining issue.
Alternative: perhaps someone here is able to convert the Mortscript to a little program, and includes the calls to put the device in unattended mode and exit from unattended mode at the end [3]
[1] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355936
[2] http://www.sto-helit.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5270
[3] http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2004/11/29/271991.aspx
that would be awesome! Thanks
laser21 said:
that would be awesome! Thanks
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I agree, this is one of the features I do miss the most in WM (Smart Power management of the WiFi radio)
have you tried to reduce battery drain during suspend? During this state (suspend) nothing will happen on any connection, so WiFi can be powered off.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}]
@=dword:00000004
Let hope someone will help us to get the script running during Unattended mode....
i'm bumping this in the hopes that someone found out a solution to this problem. Data plans are very expensive where I live now and i would like the phone to check for a wifi connection every 10 to 15 minutes even on standby (suspend) mode to check emails and disconnect after that.
Would really appreciate it if someone has any idea.
Hi, well, there is a solution, ct scheduler lite http://www.connectivetools.com/download.php?name=ctslite_ppc . install the attached WLAN switch, add the shortcut into the scheduler then after 10minutes again....it does not recognise if its turning wlan on or off...
After you turn wlan on, the device wakes up, so if you have mortscript you can add the attached scripts also to the scheduler.
good luck!
Hello,
I dont know if this has been brought up. But I dont have a data plan but I would like to have push mail which I know is not possible with Wifi. As far as I know, push mail sends a message to the phone and tells it to connect to server to DL message.
Is there any way to intercept that message and have Wifi turn on to download the message?
Thanks
If you turn on the wifi before launching the email doesn't it use it instead? this does not solve the problem as you mentioned but at least you get the email via wifi...
pushmail and wifi is just a bad idea. pushmail only works properly with an "always on" connection. wifi sucks way too much power and i doubt and device can stay on for more than 6 hours. also wifi it turned off as soon as the device goes into sleep mode to save power
that said, i game across cooked roms in the past that had pushmail enabled on wifi
Hi all,
I want to be able to sync my e-mails with an Exchange server and I want to do this through Wifi where possible to avoid using GPRS.
I had hoped to use push e-mail through Wifi but it seems that's not possible.
The next best thing therefore is to set up a schedule to get Activesync to do a sync every 15 mins.
I'm finding that even this isn't working as it should. I do get e-mails but it's definitely not syncing every 15 minutes and instead it only seems to sync when the phone is active for a decent length of time. I think the problem is that Wifi isn't active when the phone is in standby and hence activesync is only able to sync when I actually use the phone. Activesync does come up with error 85020006 which seems to be related to not finding a connection.
Is there a way to get Activesync to enable Wifi when it is due to do a sync? Or does anyone have any other ideas of how to get round this?
I did find a reg hack that is supposed to keep Wifi active in standby. The hack didn't seem to work and I don't think it's a good fix to this problem anyway since it will use up so much battery life. Really I just need Wifi to be active when Activesync needs it.
Thanks
Any ideas?
Surely I can't be the only one that wants to do scheduled e-mail syncs through wifi?
i have same problem. did you find a solution ?
Any luck here?
I somehow managed to get this working on my d2 original 6.1 rom.
cant replicate it on dutty hgr 6.5 or stock 6.5
it automatically enabled wifi when syncing with eas server and then turned it off again.
i tested several options to enable wifi in standby, one of then fixend this on demand only wifi when in standby. i have not been able to replicate it again, i would like to have it again though. i disabled gprs and had a constant ping on the phone so i know it woke ut just in time to sync.
please let me know if you find out.
I have a new AT&T Pure with an exchange email address set up to receive emails as they arrive. If the phone is not in standby mode the emails come in without a problem at the same time I receive them in Outlook. Once the phone is in standby mode (screen turns off) emails come in sporadically or not at all until I wake the phone up. If I just set it to dim and not turn screen off I am fine. Is anyone else having this issue?
I've found ActiveSync on my Touch Diamond2 very unreliable. It will work for a while but repllog.exe crashes at some point, usually overnight. Only fix is to restart the phone or manually kill the task - it's often doesn't respond to shutdown (indicating it's crashed) and has to be manually ended. Doing a sync immediately always works.
I'm hoping that they've fix this bug in WM 6.5...
Cheers, Rob.
This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.
dwg44 said:
This is a brand new phone with WM 6.5. Everything works finew when phone is not in standby. Once in standby emails don't come in when they should.
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You mean by standby, not cable/activesync attached?
I'm still wondering about gmail push, I set everything up as said, but when I'm cabled to my work computer, I don't get gmail.
I have to disconnect and then get gmail push. **sigh**
Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.
munrobasher said:
Ahh, isn't that a setting on ActiveSync? Something about allowing internet connection when docked. I think when a WM is connected via ActiveSync, the internet connection goes through your PC which sometimes is blocked.
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No, I unchecked that, same result, even after powering off/on. I think that option is misleading
some thoughts and my experience...
Do you expect emails to arrive over wifi, or gprs, The behavior is different by design.
As they arrive, in schedule settings for example only works as most people expected over gprs.( this is also called microsoft direct push) and can be toggled on/off in settings tab on most htc phones.
this also requires a constant open data connection over gprs. the phone will try to open it for you if you enable direct push option.
its also important that the carrier supports long http requests over grps for direct push to work correctly.(this is why gprs need to be open all the time)
if you deactivate the gprs-data connection, direct push will fail until it succeds a long http to the eas server again.(exchange active sync)
when i use direct push option over gprs, emails always arrive instantly (within a few sec.) to my phone regardless of standby or awake. 98% of the time anyway...
Now i have set mine to sync over wifi. however not pushed to my phone as it only works over gprs.i usually set schedule to 5 min.
if set direct push/as arrive over wifi the schedule seems to change depending on how often emails arrive. the polls seemes to be longer and longer apart if mailbox is idle. schedule a bit unclear...
i figured this out by setting a constant ping from pc to the phone and watched the response in standby mode.( wifi not set to always on even in standby) so i got response time out most of the time.
i noticed that after a certain time the phone began to respond to ping for a few seconds( active sync activated wifi in standby to check email according to my setting in schedule and then deactivated it).
if i had unread emails in my exchange mailbox they arrived in the phone as well.
i also read a paper where the direct push schedule where explained by microsoft. it is constructed that way to save as much bandwidh as possible,
i have based this on my observations only.
it would be nice if someone could find a technical paper explaining this further.
tests was done on htc p3600 and stock topaz. wm 6.1
i will do tests again on the 6.5 rom as they come online.
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Phone is not docked nor am I connected with wifi. Just a GPRS connection. What I mean by standby is that I have the setting enabled to turn off screen after 1 minute.
I have no problem with push email from my exchange server. Remember Push email only works with cell data connection as pointed out. And if you establish ActiveSync connection with a desktop PC, it will be auto-disable and changed to polling instead regardless if you keep the data connection open or not.
I have never connected this phone to a PC.
exchange active sync and wifi
i previously had a TYTNii (Kaiser) which would exchange sync through my home and office wifi (over GPRS) when wifi was available and connected.... However on my Topaz i am unable to exchange sync through wifi when connected for some reason. it will only work through phone connection with wifi off. It appears there are additional connection settings with this WM6.1 device... (priority settings for one connection type over another) but im not sure how to set this up... Help on getting exchange sync working via wifi would be appreciated thanks..